Last week’s episode of Slack Chat can be found here.
Oh yes, the TST-trio of myself, 3k (Joe McAtee), and BMule are back to bring you another episode of Slack Chat.
On this edition we talk all things 2018 NFL Draft. Obviously plenty of the talk will stem around the Rams’ class, who we like, who we don’t, but we also discuss the remainder of the NFC West as well as some of our favorite picks league-wide.
Let’s jump right into it:
Aquip Talip (TST user Sosa Kremenjas): Welcome back to another episode of Slack Chat! This is going to be all draft all day, let’s go!
Question One: Which team in the NFC West had the most impressive draft?
Joe McAtee (TST user 3K): Not the Seahawks
Aquip Talip: Their draft was....weird
Joe McAtee: But they got Shaq Griffin and Michael Dickson!
BMule (TST user BMule): I like AZ’s top two picks a lot
But Rosen ain’t doing anything this year
Aquip Talip: I felt like Seattle had some really good picks, and some really weird ones
Joe McAtee: Yeah, they were in a hole, but I liked their class
Rosen-Kirk-Cole is a nice trio to work around
BMule: Obviously everyone #GotBetter
Aquip Talip: I think I might have to roll with AZ too, but obviously the QB knocks them up a notch or so
Joe McAtee: The Niners’ class is very boom or bust
Aquip Talip: Get your QB (for relatively cheap), a weapon, and some OL help
BMule: Rams had a very safe draft. Which is just fine
Joe McAtee: Very
Which was also smart
BMule: Very smart
Aquip Talip: There’s like 3-4 picks from SF that I really liked, but all seemed to go earlier than I would have taken them
And agreed on the Rams draft
Joe McAtee: Yeah, but the problem with that is if you wait on the guys you like, they might not be around
Aquip Talip: They did the same thing last year when the McVay era started
Joe McAtee: So I get why the Niners pulled up one some of those guys
But I could see them getting very little out of this draft in 2-3 years
Aquip Talip: Safe characters with lots of college production (typically seniors) who attended the Senior Bowl
Simple, but it worked!
BMule: I do have to ruffle some feathers though
Joe McAtee: Ruffle away
Aquip Talip: Please do
BMule: I’m not really buying Noteboom as the LT of the future
Aquip Talip: What is he to you? RT? Swing?
BMule: Is an insurance swing tackle a thing?
Joe McAtee: If it is, I’m ok with it
Aquip Talip: I think he lands at LT, but I definitely could be wrong. He’s very passive and a finesse type player. His pass pro will keep him there in my opinion
BMule: Because if the rams are in position to draft a top tackle next year? They pass for Noteboom? Let’s just say I’m not sold yet. But still a smart pick
Aquip Talip: But it also could turn out that he never develops and is nothing more than a swing tackle for his career
Joe McAtee: What’s wild is how volatile it’s been at LT for us
Orlando Pace, Alex Barron, Jason Smith, Jake Long, Greg Robinson, Alex Whitworth
Aquip Talip: Lol
That’s a lot of variance
Joe McAtee: That’s a nauseating roller coaster
BMule: Rodger Saffold!
Joe McAtee: True, Saff did get, what one season in? Or two?
Aquip Talip: If Jake Long was given some better health that’s 3 HOF’ers and 3 of the biggest busts in Rams history
Aquip Talip: You know what that means for Noteboom right?
Nothing. So let’s see next year!
Anyways, this is a nice segment into Q #2:
Share some opinions on the Rams’ draft. Which pick(s) did you like? Which weren’t your favorite?
BMule: I’m pretty indifferent on the whole class. Not high, not low. Just very solid all around
Joe McAtee: I guess the Franklin-Myers one if only because I hate small school picks because I dunno shit about em
Aquip Talip: For me, easily my favorite players were John Kelly and Travin Howard
BMule: Kelly is probably my favorite pick as well
Aquip Talip: Yeah I can’t seem to find anything on Franklin-Myers, I wonder what kind of player he is. He must have flashed if he went in the fourth
BMule: Allen the least for me, because I did not anticipate him going that high
Joe McAtee: I dunno that I have a favorite. I like the class as a whole
I do like how much people like the Okoronkwo pick
Aquip Talip: The more I watch, the more I like actually
BMule: Is there a 5th round pick with more expectations?
Rams have two
Aquip Talip: A lot of “no names”, but a lot of guys who have a ton of CFB production and looked solid on tape
Joe McAtee: Roster hole + name recognition = Fans love it
Aquip Talip: And no, it’s ridiculous
BMule: Kiser and Okoronkwo are already being relied upon to take the defense to the next step and that’s such a wild stance
Aquip Talip: People are expecting Okoronkwo to start day one bare minimum
Joe McAtee: It’s silly
Aquip Talip: Never mind the actual statistical output they expect
BMule: 10 sacks
Joe McAtee: I wouldn’t be surprised if neither starts Week 1
BMule: And that’s the other thing about the draft class
The Roster is so deep half may land on PS or worse
Joe McAtee: Yup
Aquip Talip: Dude, Carl Lawson was absolutely amazing last year as a rookie EDGE (who many have compared to Ogbo) and he had 8.5 sacks....
That’s the same as Rob Quinn
The guy everyone was begging to be cut
Joe McAtee: It was just silly to see people demanding EDGE players as the draft got into the third round
BMule: No one is saying it’s impossible but the expectations are getting wild
Aquip Talip: I know it’s a lot more than sacks, but at the end of the day these fans aren’t going to be pleased by pressures
Joe McAtee: Fans were getting pulled to the roster hole HARD
Aquip Talip: Lol
It’s because that’s all they were fed by the pre-draft talk the past 5 months
”Rams need edge, Rams need edge”
Joe McAtee: That’s part of it, for sure
Aquip Talip: Same as how it was 2 months ago with CB
Obviously before Peters/Talib came to town
BMule: I like the NFL
Joe McAtee: I’m on the fence
Aquip Talip: I also really like Jamil Demby
BMule: Your twin
Aquip Talip: And it has nothing to do with him being on #teamhandsome
BMule: He had some late buzz heading into the draft. All 3 OL they drafted have a lot of future appeal
Aquip Talip: Breaking will’s on the field and breaking women’s hearts off the field. That’s the dude.
Joe McAtee: Maine football...whew
Aquip Talip: BLACK BEARS!
Put some respeck on their program
Joe McAtee: The state of Maine...whew
Aquip Talip: Alright savages, Q #3 incoming:
Is there any pick that shocked you in the draft? Any favorites?
Joe McAtee: For us or in general?
Aquip Talip: I’ve got one, but I think me and Mule may be on the same road here
How about Harold Landry free-falling?
BMule: Yeah that one made me sad
Joe McAtee: Rashaad Penny to the Seahawks at 27...
Aquip Talip: That had my heart drop
BMule: Buffalo hustling backwards with QBs?
Aquip Talip: I love Penny, I didn’t know what to expect when I watched him but he’s a stud, but man that was early
Joe McAtee: Has anyone been as maligned as Josh Allen in recent memory?
Aquip Talip: Derrius Guice waiting forever?
BMule: Until the day of the draft, i never thought Baker Mayfield would ever go #1
Aquip Talip: Crazy
BMule: That really did surprise me
Joe McAtee: For a pick I really like, DJ Chark to the Jags
I think that has a good chance of working out
Aquip Talip: ‘Twas a fun one
BMule: Darius Leonard at 36 made me laugh
Aquip Talip: The Titans may have had my favorite draft in the league and they didn’t even have any picks!
Rashaan Evans and Harold Landry.... Ugh
Joe McAtee: And I know, I know, pay your rent and whatnot
But the Chargers look good
BMule: Connor Williams to the Cowboys at 50 was a great one for me
Aquip Talip: I have literally 0 beef with the Chargers
Great one Mule. That Cowboys OL is frightening
Smith/Williams/Frederick/Martin/Collins.... that could be special
I know Joe was absolutely fond of Saquon going #2 overall
BMule: I do love how much Raiders fans hate the Kolton Miller pick
They really wanted Derwin
Aquip Talip: I would feel real good about Tom Cable needing to develop like three new OL
Joe McAtee: I could see Saquon having a very, very mediocre season
Aquip Talip: I mean, per touch he might kill it. But how many balls is he going to see in that offense?
How can you justify it if he’s not toting the rock like 350 times in the year (combined rushing+receiving)
BMule: They got future HoFer Kyle Lauretta
Aquip Talip: Lmao
Joe McAtee: But we’ll be right back here next year with some team grabbing Bryce Love
BMule: Jeff Fisher’s pants explode
Aquip Talip: Haha
Anyways boys, onto Q #4:
Who is the biggest threat to the Rams in the NFC?
Joe McAtee: Whew...
Aquip Talip: Personally I don’t think much has changed - Eagles
BMule: I love/hate this Q
Because its touuuughh
Joe McAtee: Vikings gonna be in the mix
Aquip Talip: All they did was somehow improve, again. That DL is getting so deep they got like 9-10 capable players
Aquip Talip: I’m not sure there’s any drop off to Saints, otherwise I’d agree
BMule: The Saints were a failed Hail Mary away from being in NFCC
Aquip Talip: Rams/Vikings/Eagles/Saints is going to be disturbingly close
Joe McAtee: Nobody riding for the Cowboys?
Aquip Talip: I can’t
I think they got some good pieces, but they got work to do
Namely a new HC?
Joe McAtee: I could see them getting right
Aquip Talip: I think they’ll win like 9 games, but no real threat
BMule: I could see the Panthers bouncing back but the Saints and Falcons...whew
Joe McAtee: I was about to mention Carolina
Aquip Talip: That HC/OC duo just isn’t creative enough to maximize that offense
No stud WR’s, no TE, QB coming off a bad year
And I LOVE Dak but damn, they gotta change that offense to fit him better
Joe McAtee: Either of y’all buying into the 49ers?
Aquip Talip: No doubt in my mind that if Sean McVay was the HC of the Cowboys they could make the playoffs, but I have no faith in that staff
BMule: Tavon Austin will save the Boys
Aquip Talip: Hmm. Yeah, I think they’ll be good. Not playoff good, but 7-10 (maybe) wins isn’t out of the question
BMule: I’m not buying the Niners but I definitely think they’re better than people want to admit (they’re still not great)
Aquip Talip: I’d expect like 8-8 or 9-7
Kyle Shanahan is incredible. He could get them turned quick
Joe McAtee: Those two games this year are gonna be a blast
BMule: Rams fans seem to hate the Niners loving Jimmy Faropolo more than Niners fans love loving him
And I see why
Aquip Talip: True
Joe McAtee: Me too
Aquip Talip: It’s weird
I couldn’t care less about Jimmy Garplopoolo
Joe McAtee: It’s an actual rivalry, and I love it
Aquip Talip: If we stay healthy I’ll go on record right now
We’re going to obliterate them
BMule: Put up a score
Joe McAtee: Everyone focuses on Week 17 last year, but the other game was waaaaaaay more interesting
Aquip Talip: Hmmm
38 - 17
BMule: I’ll buy
Aquip Talip: Also yeah, that week three game on TNF was absolutely incredible
One of the funnest/scariest games I’ve watched in years
BMule: Sammy Watkins cries
Joe McAtee: Who has gotten better more since that game?
Aquip Talip: Us. By a lot.
BMule: A lot a lot
Aquip Talip: We added 12 pro bowls and Brandin Cooks lol, nevermind the draft
Joe McAtee: Thats kind of what it comes down to for me
BMule: Unless you believe the Rams will start getting arrested and do drugs in the locker room
Joe McAtee: Or unless you reeeeeeeeally are buying on Jazzy Garminwaffle
BMule: Personalities lose football games it’s science
Aquip Talip: Unless things implode somehow this year, this team is insanely stacked. There are some weaker units (LB? OL?) but man... if they can perform how they did last year? Whew
BMule: Young Gerald hasn’t even been freed yet
Joe McAtee: I love him so
Aquip Talip: I’m so excited for him
I honestly have way too large expectations for him
Joe McAtee: Moi aussi
Aquip Talip: Is that Italian?
Joe McAtee: Man, don’t act like you ain’t down with some Quebecois
Aquip Talip: Moi sounds French, aussi sounds Italian. You confused me
Joe McAtee: Don’t you insult Maine!
Aquip Talip: Anyways, thanks for checking in on another episode of Slack Chat. Stay tuned for next week!
That’s all for this week. Is there any prospect in particular you guys liked? Share your thoughts below.