2012 NFL Draft: TST Community Round 1, Pick 5
by Eric Nagel on Feb 15, 2012 7:00 PM CST
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PrintYesterday the Browns made a move to add Matt Kalil. Today, we are faced with yet ANOTHER trade, this time the Steelers (led by Rcoon1307) are moving up. They had to fork over their 1st, 2nd and 5th round picks this year along with a 1st and 3rd next year to make the deal. Hardly chump change. Who is worth that much to them? Let's see:
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Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
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Pick Grade:
A-
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The Steelers have lost starting running back Rashard Mendenhall to a torn ACL and he will miss the entire 2012 NFL season (and might never be the same). He was having a terrible year anyway- his yards per carry were way down and there is no capable RB on the Steelers roster to carry the rock for 4 quarters. The Steelers have promised to go back to the "old steeler way" which means running the ball and playing D. Cutting Mendenhall will clear some cap space and Richardson will be a tremendous upgrade for a similar price. Richardson has all the talent and intangibles to be as good as Adrian Peterson and doesn't have any where near the injury concern. Having a running game with Richardson will make Big Ben, Antonio Brown, And Mike Wallace that much better. The Steelers gave up a lot but have drafted well recently and aren't far away from getting back to the Super Bowl.  |
Analysis after the jump.
While I completely disagree with Rcoon1307 on whether or not Rashard Mendenhall isn't doing very well (over 1000 yards receiving and rushing on less then 250 touches with 9 touchdowns? How is that bad!), adding Trent Richardson will create a monster tandem (when Mendenhall returns later in the year) that is surely "old Steeler Football".
Couple that with the fact that the Steelers already have a potent passing attack? The Steelers will have one very good offense. Very good. Is it worth it to give up all those picks? I'd think not, but of course, I'm not the one in charge of the Steelers. They now have top talent all over the offense.
The fifth pick has come and gone. If you missed any of the previous picks, or want to see what trades have been made so far, check out the full schedule.
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F -, although I see the reasoning and the Steelers might do this
This is a move that potentially sinks your franchise. You gave away TONS of picks for a RB in a passing league when Big Ben is getting knocked to pieces because his line is awful and he might end up outta the league by next year with the injuries he’s getting. Just not a good situation to make this move
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This trade only would have been good if it was for Kalil or give up less an get Reifff
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Disagree completely...
OL help can be picked up in free agency. Without help in the running game defenses can sit back in coverage. You need to have a good running game. And the Steelers coaching staff have said they are going back to the running game. Realistically they will pick a DT in the draft ala Dontari Poe to replace Corey Hampton who is likely to be a cap casualty.
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 7:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Outside Pouncey, the whole o-line is terrible
A decent rb can be added easy, and the other RB’s they have besides Mendenhall are ok already. 3 or 4 quality linemen are harder to get. And it’s just too many picks for a RB
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I hear ya on the lineman troubles but injuries hurt them as well...
Having a duel threat RB who can help in the passing game will help a ton with the OL too. Richardson is a stud and I have no doubt he will be in the top 5 RB no matter where he goes. Look at your highflying attacks this year. Green Bay, New Orleans, Pitt, New England even….You have to run the ball in January to be successful.
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The giants couldn't run the ball most the season
And Bradshaw isn’t that great of a RB, most Giants fans will tell you he’s more of a recieveing RB than a runner. You need a solid running game. Fixing the line fixes the running game. SJax being a Ram hasn’t done a damn for the qb health here, so Richardson won’t save Big Ben
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I believe a couple years ago before Mc D-bag...
SJ 39 bailed out both Bulger and Bradford quite a bit. Also Bradshaw led the league in rushing last year and was hurt alot this year. Inhad him in fantasy football. When he plays he puts up good numbers
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
led the league in rushing?
i dont think bradshaw has ever led the league in rushing. def not last year in the regular season or post season. i went back to 2006 (dont know what year he came into the league) and he hasnt even been a top 5 guy.
My fault he didn't lead the league...
But rushed for 1235 yards and had over 200 yards receiving
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 8:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
hate to disagree with you but...
you dont “need” a good running game. both of the superbowl teams this yr had very sub-par running games. it helps, but its not a must anymore.
Who doesn't enjoy watching a niner get owned by a good stiff arm?
by unleash-the-beast#39 on Feb 16, 2012 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wow...
You would take Hightower that high?
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 7:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
wouldn't have gone that high if I were the Steelers
but I’d be addressing the RB position in FA, as well.
Yeah, I wouldn't have moved up to here if I'm them
But Hightower, Reiff, Upshaw.. All names if prefer if I’m here. In the end, i would never make this move. But I credit you for making a pick with a REALLY good rationalization that I could see happening
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hightower is a possible second rounder lol.
They could probably get him at their current spot. I gave this an A. Richardson is not Ingram, I highly doubt he falls into the 20s.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I don't agree with moving up to this spot, at this cost anyways
but if I was the Steelers, I’d rather take a LB who could possibly be solid for the next decade, over a RB who may or may not produce numbers you’d expect at #5. Am I wrong in thinking that?
I actually hate the steelers but that is the team that was available...
I’ve read a ton of reports though that say they will take a DT like Poe in first round. But you cant go wrong with a RB who was better than a heisman trophy winning RB on the same team at the same time lol
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 7:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In my mind, Richardson shouldn't go top ten
He’s got top 3 talent, but at a position not worth a top ten pick anymore
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like Richardson
no question about it. I don’t want the Rams to draft him in the first, but it’d sure be nice to have him. I don’t think you did the Steelers wrong here……….just seems to be difficult to judge how well these college RB’s will do in the NFL these days, and you’re seeing guys in later rounds produce better numbers than those drafted early on
I wouldn't do it,
but I thought it was cool seeing as it’s the Steelers grabbing the best running back since Peterson. Match made in heaven! :D But if I personally moved up there, I’m taking Claiborne. Their cornerbacks get abused.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Anothee better choice than Richardson
But simply, gave up waaaaaaaaaaaay too much
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
the reason the steelers are always in the hunt
is because they do not give away draft picks like this guy standing in for them. they believe in their talent evaluators enough to pick high and still get quality. as do most of the perennial winners in the league.
This is true
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If this is a one round mock, you win Rcoon
because you just got them an awesome RB, and then bailed on their asses for the remainder of this year…….and next
by DCRamFan on Feb 15, 2012 7:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Richardson + Mendenhall +against
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
by Joe Mazzi on Feb 15, 2012 7:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Droid, you suck
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
by Joe Mazzi on Feb 15, 2012 7:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Richardson + Mendenhall + Redman
= OMFG
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
by Joe Mazzi on Feb 15, 2012 7:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Mendenhall tore his ACL I think in the playoffs?
Out for the upcoming year :(
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
- any other young talent=
Lead league in rushing, never make playoffs
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 15, 2012 7:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mendenhall has been declining ssince his rookie season...
And seeing as how I’m only the Steelers gm until the REAL draft I would have given it all up lol
with this pick
I’m almost guaranteed to get one of the players I want. Keep draft risky everyone, I need to turn the bills around.
by iplaythedrums on Feb 15, 2012 8:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Personally, I love this pick
They’ll have a great offense. Richardson is a monster.
But this will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER happen.
As much as I love him...
If I were the Rams I wouldnt take him over Kalil/Blackmon/Reiff/Martin/DeCastro
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 9:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I give this a C.
As good of a player Richardson is the Steelers have more pressing needs on the O-line not to mention they need some young blood in their aging defense.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
I'm with ya...
But again I think with Pouncey being healthy and them cutting some aging vets for cap room, they can add to both OL/DL in FA also
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 9:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Worst pick EVER
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Ouch yo.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
by Joe Mazzi on Feb 15, 2012 10:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The truth hurts
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Well luckily your opinion doesn't matter much in this my friend
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 10:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
With all your gm experience....
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 10:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You give up 5 high draft picks for a RB???
A RB???? Never should a RB be picked that high or even in the first round.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
This would destroy the Steelers
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Tell that to...
Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, Jammal Lewis, and LT. Pretty sure they were worth a top 5 pick!
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 10:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah and how many champs b/t all of em???
One, and that was due to playing on the team with one of the greatest defenses ever. RBs are never worth that high of a pick, especially in today’s NFL.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
I promise you take away anyone of those running backs....
No of those teams (even the Ravens) wouldn’t even make the playoffs
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 11:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But worst trade ever?
I think that goes to 1) chargers for trading up to get Leaf and 2) saints for giving away an entire draft damn near for Ricky Williams
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 11:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At least Ricky did something
Leaf did jack.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Yeah sure...
look at the teams with the best RBs who were picked in the first round. They all suck
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
My boy 3k
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/2/18/1962176/the-decline-of-the-rb-position-in-the-nfl
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/6/7/2209866/the-decline-of-the-rb-position-in-the-nfl-part-2
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
I was the Redskins
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
You just gave away 5 picks including 2 first rounders for a RB?
Why oh why didn’t someone tell me Ditka was here
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
And my head just exploded.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
I have a GIF for this but the violence of it may get me banned.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Rooney's old ass would finally kick the bucket if this happened.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
THAT IS INSANITY!
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
And finally!!!
The demise of the steelers!!!!
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 16, 2012 12:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Now I understand your motives
and I back you 100%
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Finally! I was hoping someone would pick up on this!
But I do love Trent Richardson…so I killed two birds with one stone
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 16, 2012 12:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Should have drafted a punter.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Nah...
I’m going to seriously overpay for Donnie Jones. Love his directional punting skills (directly to Patrick Peterson) hahaha
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 16, 2012 12:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's painful
but Peterson’s awful coverage skill takes the sting away.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Who needs to cover when you can just grab them and take a penalty?
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 16, 2012 12:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't wait for us to have a reciever that
Just makes the cardinals secondary look stupid next year. I hate them! Except for Fitzgerald. Can’t hate on him
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 16, 2012 1:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe I've been watching Ram's draft for too long lol
I must have learned a thing or two
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 16, 2012 12:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I Graded This Pick F
Too much was given up IMO. The Steelers could have been just as effective staying put. A lot of good RB’s in this draft. If they wanted to select RB; Doug Martin, Lamar Miller, or David Wilson would possibly still be the board. The Steelers have so many important needs to address: Secondary, OL, and LB; a trade like this may do more harm than good IMO.
i like how a few people said they understand this pick and was backin him on it
But none ever bothered to menchin what it was they understood to make it a good pick cause I see no way in hell this was a good trade are choice for PA.
*Drew Bress Will Never Forget The Day He Got Chris Longed!!!!
by Ramzman18 on Feb 16, 2012 9:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions
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