St. Louis Rams FA Options: John Abraham

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 7:59 PM CST

Free Agency begins March 13th, and in my opinion, it can’t get here fast enough. Major upgrades at Rams Park so far this year include General Manager Les Snead and head coach Jeff Fisher. I believe they have what it takes to bring a winning tradition to the St. Louis Rams franchise. I have no doubt that Fisher and Co. are patiently waiting for March 13th too. Thee Rams free agent additions will shape their draft plans in April.

It's really a shame that John Abraham isn’t ten years younger. With the transition of offenses to more high flying attacks, Abraham would be putting up pass rusher stats like no one else in the NFL. He would almost be guaranteed a HOF shrine. When he retires, I think he will still get some votes.

While DE isn't one of the most important positions the Rams need to address, you can't overlook what Abrahams knowledge would bring. He would be able to add to the already impressive talents of Chris Long, and could turn Robert Quinn into something phenomenal. Quinn has natural born pass rusher skills, so if he could learn from John Abraham's expertise in the craft… Well, to me, that's a match made in heaven.

Quite a few Rams fans will say he's too old. I completely understand, with the bad taste of Robbins, Bannan, and Muir still in our mouths. But Abraham has missed only two games in 5 years. That’s right, only missed two games while playing one of the toughest positions in the NFL! Having a rolling pass rusher that could be swapped in and out with Quinn and Long would keep them all healthier, and could really make a difference in close 4th quarter games. Also, let's not forget that Abraham was a Pro Bowler in 2010.

It seems Atlanta isn't willing to resign him at his current rate - $8 million per year. But with some "friends" like Les Snead, Paul Bordreau, and Harvey Dahl, who knows what could happen?

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Would the addition of John Abrahams help Robert Quinn become a better DE?

Yes, and he'd be a great rotational third DE too

274 votes

No, he just too old to help the Rams defense in any way.

187 votes

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Haha

Had to do it Doug lol

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 3:45 PM CST reply actions

lol The post looks great! Had to throw in the #3 poll question

When I went to find a pic of Abrahams, the Cricket player popped up, so… :-)

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions

If he doesn't cost too much

then I’d absolutely bring him aboard.

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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 14, 2012 4:21 PM CST reply actions

As much as I like Hall as a player for his great work ethic, Abrahams would definiely be an upgrade.

I wonder what kind of $$$ it would take to sign him? I know we have other needs to address, but if we could swing it?

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions

Hall is better

he can play multiple positions and be a threat anywhere

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by Brick Top on Feb 14, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions

Hall is not better....

Hall is decent but isn’t on Abrahams level as a pass rusher…not even close

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Double digits sacks two years ago

6 last year. And can play DT on rush downs. He’s a better backup, not better player. Better backup

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by Brick Top on Feb 14, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions

Ahhh...gotcha

I love Hall but if you could get Abraham for decent money (which you probably can’t) then I would rather have him over Hall.

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Abrahams is almost two years younger than Hall

Career stats for Hall: 63 Sacks, 16 Fumbles

Career Stats for Abrahams: 112 sacks, 36 fumbles – 3X All -Pro

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions

I wouldn't be opposed to signing both

and drafting a late-round project to learn from them

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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 14, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions

Does our $10 mil in CAP room include the $3 mil teams can borrow from a future CAP year?

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions

That's a good question.

I have no idea. My hope is that after cuts and factoring that three million in (if applicable), we’ll have around 20-23 mil. That might be stretching it, but that’s my hope lol.

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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 14, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions

You know what?

We need a community cap guru to educate themselves and us on these cap questions. I know Mike Deitrich knows some of this stuff but I don’t know if he has the time or energy to ascend to the lofty Guru level of capology. As we go year after year of performance shittitude and the resulting draft windfalls, we have accumulated quite a draft crowd in here. I’d do it but I don’t have the attention span to,…uh…..well….whatever it was we were talking about.

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by dbcouver on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 AM CST up reply actions

If I knew of a website that let me know all of that,

I would gladly find some time to read up on it and try to understand it.

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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 15, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions

+1

by jmo53 on Feb 15, 2012 11:23 AM CST via Android app up reply actions

Stats don't lie....

Abraham is definitely better

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 10:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

And while not the most pressing need...

I believe Fisher and Co. will be looking for upgrades not matter what position

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 10:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Unless he's running down the sidelines

jumping over defenders, and scoring double digit TD’s next season I don’t think any FA signee should be making $8mil per season

by DCRamFan on Feb 14, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions

I don't think he'll cost that much. He's in the last years of his career, so he can't command huge money, can he?

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions

I wish I could tell ya

but I don’t think we find ourselves in a position to be looking for backup DE’s when we don’t have starting quality players in other positions. Just my opinion

by DCRamFan on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions

Certainly not before we get a couple other guys

But what the hell? Hall is a free agent. Would Abraham be much expensiver.

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by dbcouver on Feb 14, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions

I like the idea if it's cheap, but how can it be?

if I were him, seeing as how his contract has gone up every year since 2006 (from 2mil – 8mil, with 12.5 up front) my ass would be on a beach somewhere

by DCRamFan on Feb 14, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah it's all about how much these guys get

We’re still not much of a destination that drives players to take a cut just to get a ring. So it’s probably spendier than Hall. We gotta go thru a coouple of seasons of developing players, some of which we’ll keep for cheap, and some of which we can develop then trade for additional picks. It’s gonna take a while to wash the stench off ourselves.

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by dbcouver on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions

lol

expensiver and spendier. My dictionary is rolling over in its grave.

THIS year's the year. I hope....

by thisguy on Feb 14, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions

So true! The word he's looking for is - expenciestness... lol

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions

lol

Now that’s funny…I agree!

by SleeplessKingpin on Feb 14, 2012 9:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

lol

Now that’s funny…I agree!

by SleeplessKingpin on Feb 14, 2012 9:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I voted no

I’m more in favor of getting younger at that position, not older. We already got one end in Hall who is on the last lap or two, why pick up someone else who is in the same boat? I think we need a new body in at that position, but I’ll pass on him.

by willEYEam on Feb 14, 2012 8:55 PM CST reply actions

This would make no sense

We already have 2 good DE’s. We need someone in the middle. I would rather save that money for Finnegan or someone else.

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by Jombari on Feb 14, 2012 9:10 PM CST reply actions

I think we'll see quite a few players gone from the existing tea. Lots of positions to fill with starters, as well as depth players

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions

I agree...

But since we are talking about all FA I figured I would toss it out there

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Am I aging with fire...

To thank the Rams gods that Jswirb hasn’t commented on my post? Haha

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions

well...........you did it

you’ve awakened the jbeast

by DCRamFan on Feb 14, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions

I wonder...

If he has some alert on his computer/smart phone that tells his when his name is used

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

playing

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Abraham, while he won't be cheap...

Could take Long and Quinn to ridiculous playing levels.

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Don't get me wrong guys....I would only advocate this if..

It didn’t get in the way of signing CB/DT/WR. Those are obviously the most important pickups for the Rams.

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions

no worries

nice post, homie. Keep em comin

by DCRamFan on Feb 14, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions

Thank you sir....

Will do

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 9:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I like John Abraham

But that would be stupid, That would be like signing Brian Urlacker. A complete waste of salary cap.

by SleeplessKingpin on Feb 14, 2012 9:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Lance Briggs?

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions

No

we have a lot more pressing needs.

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but sometimes they don't make sense.
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by sergey606 on Feb 14, 2012 9:38 PM CST reply actions

Like a lease? lol

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions

Hahaha

Hey Doug, thanks for ruining the mood!!

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions

My work here is done... lol

If you could pick any player to add to the Rams roster (current player from any team or draftee), who would it be?

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by Douglas M on Feb 14, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions

That's tough...

A.J. Green is a special player. I love the way he plays. He will be putting up crazy numbers for a long time.

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 10:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Or Suh...

Even though people say he’s dirty. He isn’t. Trust me. St Louis football Cardinals fans know dirty. Conrad Dobler anyone? Lol

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 10:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

wish he wasnt still playin

We coulda hiered him as a coach

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by Ramzman18 on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions

old fart

don’t need him

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by fearsomefoursum on Feb 14, 2012 11:51 PM CST reply actions

He's 2 years younger than Hall...

And playing at an elite level still.

by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 11:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Kaker Mush

He hauls cory

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by Ramzman18 on Feb 15, 2012 12:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Hahaha! I have no idea what you were trying to say, but I agree! I Think? lol

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by Douglas M on Feb 15, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions

couldn't have said it better my self

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by dbcouver on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 AM CST up reply actions

dam gypsy took my money

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by Ramzman18 on Feb 15, 2012 1:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

i have no idea what any of that ment

But it felt right at the time lol

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by Ramzman18 on Feb 15, 2012 1:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions

We have NO DT's.

And with TWO 1st round picks already in place at DE, people want to bring in yet another? Granted James Hall may age out this year and we have no depth, but 1st things first. We’ve got to have at least ONE really good DT. Bannan is barely adequate, if that good. We can’t rely on bad players like Scott, Ah You, Sims, etc. to backup the defensive line either.

by JHaier on Feb 15, 2012 11:06 AM CST reply actions

I don't think anyones happy with our DTs

We don’t have to fill out the roster in any order, as long as certain holes are filled prior to TC. By bringing in another DE, (Hall is a FA) we’re not deciding that our DTs are all good.

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by dbcouver on Feb 15, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions