2012 NFL Draft: TST Community Round 1, Pick 4
We witnessed a huge shocker yesterday when Broncos GM Douglas M leapfrogged half the league and picked Justin Blackmon with the third overall pick. With that said, ocruz1, GM of the Browns, has made his pick:
Analysis after the jump
This is a tough pick to make. I think Cleveland is going to try and make a play for Robert Griffin, hell or high water. With him gone, it complicates things quite a bit.
The problem I have with this pick is Joe Thomas. Where do you put him? Where do you put Kalil (who is seen as more of an LT)? Ocruz1 is right; Matt Kalil has arguably the most value here. But the Browns are in a unique position because they have another pick in the first round. They could use that pick to trade up, down, and it becomes a very good value when players start to fall at the end of the first round. Most importantly, the Cleveland Browns have the opportunity to reach a bit because they have another pick.
I will say that it is an interesting pick, and you can't fault ocruz1 for going for the BPA at this point. However, I think that need outweighs talent at this point, even more so given the Browns have another pick in the first. The Browns now have a very young, very talented group of OT's. Hopefully Colt McCoy is up to the task of leading the offense.
There you have it folks! The fourth pick is done! If you missed any of the previous picks, or want to see what trades have been made so far, check out the full schedule.
Also, two quick things. 1) If you are still trying to trade and can't get a hold of who you want to trade with, email me. I can help you get in touch with them. 2) Who is up for making (and editing) a BPA chart? It would be linked in every Community Mock post in the future.
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I have the steelers and I'm trying to trade up!
Who has Tampa? I have an offer
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 4:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I do!
I’ve been trying to trade up the last couple days
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 4:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't get anything.
I emailed you earlier
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 6:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
alright
If I don’t get a pick from him by tomorrow afternoon…im taking over for that pick and ill trade with you
by Eric Nagel on Feb 14, 2012 6:58 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Email me at ryan.coon1307@yahoo.com
I will give ya a great deal!
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 12:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I will give you my 2012 1st, 2nd, and 5th...
And my 2013 1st & 4th
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 12:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's a good pick and I love Kalil
but I think if this happened in real life, they take Claiborne or Richardson.
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
Claiborne is who I would of went with, but we all know that trade Doug did won't happen
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Would you take Claiborne if he makes it past the Bucs?
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
Hellz Yeah
He be the top player on my board right now
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Thank God lol
I like Reiff and all, but Claiborne is my ideal trade down target.
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
I agree
But what if — IF — the Rams land Finnegan before the draft? Do you still take Claiborne? Then cut Bartell and allow Claiborne to compete with Fletcher for the #2 spot to ease him in?
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
I think we need to try to get Bartell to restucture anyway.
If he refuses, we should probably cut him, even though that would kill me. I think even if we get Finnegan AND keep Bartell, Claiborne should still be the pick. He’s incredible in coverage.
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
If the Browns are smart here,
they trade Kalil to someone who could desperately use him, and try again with their first pick
That was my first thought
this pick is like us taking RGIII. There isn’t any room for 2 highly paid OTs under anyones cap, nor on their O-line. With Thomas on the left the best RT is still on the board, and frankly, who couldn’t use Claiborne. I know they got Haden, too but CBs are much more interchangeable than OTs.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
I was surprised to see that the Browns ranked 2nd in the NFL
in opposing passing yd’s per game. Clearly, they’ve got more dire needs than a CB. Not saying that Claiborne isn’t a damn stud, but the offense is atrocious. They have no RB, they have no WR’s and they have no QB. My first pick would be offense, but definitely not O-Line
Someone ‘blow him away with an offer’ so that he has a player he can use. For a guy touted as the best LT in years, putting him on a team where he’ll play RT just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, given the other glaring issues they have on offense
He never responded...
But he obviously saw it bc he mentioned it in the post. In real life he would have gotten fired for not accepting the trade
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 5:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This honestly could be awesome if they are sold on another qb like Foles for the second round
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Feb 14, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The AFC North could become terrifyingly better in the next few years.
Pitt and Baltimore just need to get some youth on defense or they’ll start slipping behind.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
The Browns are good at limiting the passing game of their opponents
but just as atrocious as we are at stopping the run. They’d be better served addressing that front 7
and unfortunately, like our team over the past few
the defense is far superior to the offense. They need RG3 and they’d better give us an s-load to get him, damnit!
irsay said peyton can stay
If the deal us restructured
by Ram_Redemption on Feb 14, 2012 5:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Your damn right the I (Steelers) made you a good trade offer....
Jesus I can’t believe you didn’t take that. And now your still listening to Kalil trade offers? Good lord lol
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I guess if you need a BPA chart I can do that let me know what you'd like to see and I'll have it for you.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Check your email
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
by Josh Wehrle on Feb 14, 2012 5:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
?
Is that idea stupid? I didn’t mean for it to be dumb…I just thought someone would like doing something like that so that everyone could see who might be picked….I’m not that good at those sorts of things anyway.
I apologize if it sounded like I was trying to hand off something or just be a lazy shit.
Oh shit Eric ...totally different subject
Naw it’s totally cool take a look at what I posted below it was no problem. Man, dude I’m sorry my post above is a response to a convo between me and Buckeye on another Live mock over at MTD.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
No it's a great idea
Me and db were talking about the MTD community mock.
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
by Josh Wehrle on Feb 14, 2012 6:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Here's a link to a raw names chart for 2012
Very nice
I love spread sheets! Thanks
by Charlie Pankey on Feb 15, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
As good of a pick as you can get, IMO
Him dropping to 4 is unheard of
Haikus are easy,
but sometimes they don't make sense.
Refrigerator.
Man, this takes too long.
Ozzie and I are getting antsy over here in Baltimore.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
by Joe Mazzi on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
tomorrow
do note you have emails. Someone has desperately been trying to trade with you
by Eric Nagel on Feb 14, 2012 11:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
desperate isnt the word lol
This mock is funny between the one guy cussin the other guy then the other guy thought his idea was shit but then turns out the first guy was talking on a whole diffrent subject to this other guy and then they both said srry and its was all good and now their friends agin and the other guys happier now and his feelins aren’t hurt cause he seemed pretty torn up dar for a min. Haaaaaaaa gota love TST and A1 mock by the way
*Drew Bress Will Never Forget The Day He Got Chris Longed!!!!
by Ramzman18 on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Freakin'A
I think iv found my calling
*Drew Bress Will Never Forget The Day He Got Chris Longed!!!!
by Ramzman18 on Feb 15, 2012 12:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Haha...am I the desperate one???
by Rcoon1307 on Feb 15, 2012 1:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Gave it a D,
both Thomas and Kalil are natural left tackles so I wouldn’t make this pick with a premier LT on hand.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Agree that Kalil is no fit for the
Browns. Given the first three selections I think they would go for Richardson. I can’t imagine that they are going to war with Hillis next year after the issues in 2011.
Alright Eric I gotta google doc 3 pages worth (first ones my 3 round mock draft I did a couple weeks ago
But the second page is your big board and the 3rd page is a running record of trades and picks. Just float your cursor over the little boxes with the little tabs in the top right corners for trade details. I gave you editing powers so you can easily keep up. I can keep it up if you want. Anyhoo the link in the above comment gets everyone over there to view.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

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