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St. Louis Rams: The Players to Keep - Steven Jackson

I'm not quite sure about the word "heroic" when it comes to sports. The term seems more readily reserved for soldiers serving their country, or firemen and police officers who save lives every day.

There are inspiring moments in sports, some even inspire Hollywood movies commemorating efforts in their "expansive" way. If "heroic" is applied to a player of sport - to me anyway - the definition can't be relegated to a few singular efforts or acts. It's about a body of work serving as proof that the player rose above an implicit challenge. He or she didn't just seize a day, they seized a career; a body of work...

The St. Louis Rams have been blessed with a player that defines "heroic" as it can be applied to sports. In the 2004 NFL Draft, the Rams selected a running back named Steven Rashad Jackson. He was given the jersey number "39", and told to step into the shadow, the legacy, of one of the most powerful offenses in NFL history as it slid into decline. The years that followed Jackson's draft with the 24th pick in the 2004 NFL draft have been marked with teammates moving on, coaches shown the door, and the game of football morphing into a "pass first" world. Throughout Steven Jackson's career, he has excelled in spite of the team around him...

Star-divide

Statistics and charts courtesy of one of my faaaaavorite NFL info sites - RotoWorld

Current Season Stats
Year Rushing Receiving Fumb. KO Ret Punt Ret
Year Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD
2011 STL 15 260 1145 76.3 4.4 4 5 42 333 22.2 7.9 0 1 1 0 0 0 0
Career Stats
Year Rushing Receiving Fumb. KO Ret Punt Ret
Year Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD
2004 STL 14 134 673 48.1 5.0 2 4 19 189 13.5 9.9 0 0 1 79 0 0 0
2005 STL 15 254 1046 69.7 4.1 2 8 43 320 21.3 7.4 0 2 3 0 0 0 0
2006 STL 16 346 1528 95.5 4.4 6 13 90 806 50.4 9.0 2 3 2 0 0 0 0
2007 STL 12 237 1002 83.5 4.2 2 5 38 271 22.6 7.1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0
2008 STL 12 254 1043 86.9 4.1 4 7 40 379 31.6 9.5 0 1 3 0 0 0 0
2009 STL 15 324 1416 94.4 4.4 7 4 51 322 21.5 6.3 0 0 2 0 0 0 0
2010 STL 16 330 1241 77.6 3.8 4 6 46 383 23.9 8.3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
2011 STL 15 260 1145 76.3 4.4 4 5 42 333 22.2 7.9 0 1 1 0 0 0 0

In 2008, Jackson held out for a new contract, as his bargain basement 5 year - $7 million rookie contract wound down. He became the highest paid running back in the NFL at that time, signing a new six year contract in 2008 that at it's maximum could earn him $49.3 million over the life of the contract. The contract included $21 million in guarantees, some of which was covered in a $11.4 million signing bonus.

Steven Jackson has deserved every penny he been paid. The 2011 season for Jackson was marred by a freak injury in the Rams first game of the year. It turned out to be an omen of things to come for the Rams, as player after player fell to injuries that were at time bizarre, if not absurd. (See Cadillac Williams and Bradley Fletcher)

The 2012 season brings with it yet another change in coaching and front office regimes for Jackson and his Rams teammates. It also brings some new fiscal realities too. The Collective Bargaining Agreement signed after the 2011 NFL lockout has redefined player value, and not just for newly drafted players covered by the rookie salary cap. How it will all shake out will be interesting to see, with many seeing the new CBA as a boon for veteran players in free agency. Others are postulating that player value, at or near their career apogee, will be more closely watched than ever before as Salary Cap pressure builds, and ways to aleviate it are sought.

While everyone ruminates over this player or that, the cold hard facts are that in the St. Louis Rams current Salary Cap state, ($10 miliion +- under the CAP) the front office, ownership, and coaches will be examining virtually ever player on the team. They will look at obvious player with behemoth contracts that haven't performed. (see: Jason Smith) They will also be looking at Steven Jackson, and will try to establish some kind of cost to benefit ratio to establish his future or immediate worth.

Steven Jackson's contract

"8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract. The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus. Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract. 2011: $7.2 million, 2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years), 2014: Free Agent" - Via RotoWorld and the St. Louis Post Dispatch

The St. Louis Rams new head coach, Jeff Fisher, has a history of being a "Run First" kind of coach. His new offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer, is said to be a "run oriented" guy too. If this were 2006, with Jackson coming off a great season, no one would even think about #39 as a possible fiscal casualty. Personally, I'd be appalled if Steven Jackson's career with the Rams ended based on a "penny here - penny there" mentality.

If you consider the highest paid running backs in the NFL today, Jackson's contract is so reasonable, that it borders on the ridiculous (See: Chris Johnson). Steven Jackson has value that transcends his statistics. His leadership on the team is second to none. If every Rams player had Jackson's work ethic, the St. Louis Rams headquarters would be littered with Lombardi Trophy-s. On a team with few shining lights, Steven Jackson has quietly been a beacon.

On game day at the Edward Jones Dome, as players are introduced, applause fills the air. When Steven Jackson appears through whatever simulated smoke or fireworks the Rams PR people dream up, you see someone that's different. Someone that inspires thoughts of the heroic...

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I really hope SJAX gets the chance to play on a great team.

Jackson has definitely earned all of the respect he is given.

by David5264 on Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

Totally agree. Hopefully the Rams turn things around in time to get him to the Super Bowl

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

:-) Relax! Jackson is not going anywhere

Fisher is a run heavy coach who likes big and strong running backs, Eddie George! 6’3" and 240… Physique fit anyone? Brian Shotty is a guy who loves power runners. Thomas Jones?? I dont think Jackson will get 350 carries this year, but I know he will get 240 carries and another 1000 yard season. 7 Million is nothing for how important Jackson will be to this team this year. Eddie George rarely averaged more than 3.8 yards, which is Jackson’s worst season. Thomas jones another par 4.0 yard career avg had his best years with shotty, and ran almost 1300 yards per season splitting carries. He was 29-31 when he was with the jets, same years as Jackson. I believe Jackson will be around for 3-4 more years. And he will put up some monster numbers.

by Nesil C on Feb 11, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Justin King...

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

oooooh

the guy who’s going to give up 1000 yards receiving for an NFL record 11 seasons

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly!

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I like to think of Jackson as more of a villain than a hero

In the sense that he dishes out fear, pain and anguish at will towards all those that oppose him. BEAST

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

HA!

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Thought I'd mix in some "keeper" posts with the FA posts

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Make sure to pace yourself. Don't run out of material too soon.

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Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The Keeper list will have to be spread out. Not that rich a source for subject matter. :-)

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

i love sjax...

this guy not only put up 7 straight 1000 yrd seasons, but all on a shitty team, and beyond all that? not once ever asked for a trade. a true proffesional in every sense of the word. if the rams ever decided to trade sjax, that would e straight up blasphemy! and a slap in the face to jackson. this guy needs to be kept. i will agree, (god forbid) he does ever get traded? its to a contender sjax deserves to play, not only in the playoffs, but in a super bowl as well.

by Mark Jaramillo on Feb 10, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone be willing to listen to trades for SJAX?

and what do you think we could get for him, in terms of a draft pick?

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Late 2nd rounder from a RB starved playoff team? Like the Pats or Packers?

And I would be infuriated for months

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by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

not saying I condone it

absolutely love the guy…..just curious. I agree, there are teams that could definitely use his services. We need to give that guy a damn line, though…

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No way in hell

I don’t think that the franchise would want to trade away the ONE recognizable name/person that the Rams have had since the end of the GSOT. Neither would he want to leave now that they have finally started to get their shit together in terms of building a good program. I’m thinking it would be an immediate hang-up if any team called talking about a trade for 39.

by willEYEam on Feb 10, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, I hope you're right

man, I’m glad I asked that question……certainly getting some inspired responses

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

No DC

Even if your just talking. Run first coach and Jackson. Folks he’s not done, And if he ever stops that stutter step at the line and just goes balls to the walls at the hole his yardage will increase. No way fish gets rid him and for what, who’s the replacement?

by Mudsharktoo on Feb 10, 2012 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

Hate to get off the subject, but this one was short lived...

Jovan Olafioye has returned to the B.C. Lions after being released by the St. Louis Rams due to a medical concern according to Allan Maki of the Toronto Globe and Mail.

The import offensive lineman, who signed with the Rams a week ago, was released late Thursday. His agent, Dan Vertlieb, issued a statement: "The St. Louis Rams have notified Jovan Olafioye that they have released him from his contract due to their concerns about a medical issue. Given the closing window to explore opportunities in the NFL in Jovan’s current CFL contract, he will return to the B.C. Lions for another season after thoroughly addressing his status."

by Da Rams! on Feb 10, 2012 4:09 PM CST reply actions  

Damn! That was fast! Hope he didn't buy a house?

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

How can you in one week. Well I guess you can.

But I’m sure he didn’t. He wasn’t even garaunteed a roster spot.

by Da Rams! on Feb 10, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder what the Medical issue was?

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll never know due medical privacy laws

But I feel for the dude. He had one shot at the limelight and now its probably shut for good due to his health.

by Da Rams! on Feb 10, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

they're health coverage is fantastic up there!

they need to get his ass healthy, for CHEAP, and send him back. We got dibs!

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going to assume that 'medical concern'

meant 3C……….Common Canadian Cold. He’ll go back, have a Molson, and be fine in a few days

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

probably… I heard it has something to do with his kidneys, but he’ll still be playing for the CFL… hmmmm

by RamsIchor on Feb 10, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Molson Ice

Good beer up there in Canadia, eh?

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by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

for me

ice = hangover……..no matter what brand of beer comes before it. I do like Molson and Labatt, though

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Moby dick 4realz

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by Ramzman18 on Feb 10, 2012 4:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I couldn't agree with you more about SJ39 Douglas but I think there is one discrepancy in your very well done post...

Actually, it’s not really a discrepancy but an over-sight.

If I am not mistaken Steven, who believed in himself so much when he came to the Rams, was not just given the number 39 but he actually selected that Jersey number because he believed he would set records and make history as a running back (I believe he even had a goal of 2000 yards when he became the starting RB) that he wanted a number that no other star RB ever had. Am I right or have I been smoking that funny stuff again?

I truly hope Jackson makes it to setting the most consecutive 1000 yard seasons record but that is currently held by Emmit Smith with 11 but it’s going to be tough for him to get five more seasons.

Go Rams and Go SJax!

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by Nbr1RamFan on Feb 10, 2012 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

lol I have no idea if he asked for #39, but I thank you for raising the issue.

I’m lucky that the phrasing in the post works either way! :-) Now stop smoking the funny stuff… unless you have enough for everybody! lol

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to change the subject

but I just heard that Luck and RG3 are going to have the same pro day, March 23rd I believe…….‘why would anyone go to Luck’s pro day?’ was the first thing that came to mind….

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

"As Luck would have it," Luck's draft stock can't go any higher.

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by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is he even having a pro day

didn’t do enough to show what a screw up he is against USC and Oregon?

by LARams1968 on Feb 10, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just replying to DC's post

If he is, why would he? He can only hurt his stock as he’s at the top now.

by LARams1968 on Feb 10, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just wondering who's going to show up

last I heard, he was the Colts starting QB. There are at least half a dozen teams in the RG3 market

If the Colts guy(s) are at RG3’s pro day, I might have a few more questions

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

My favourite SJAX moment was this year’s win over the Saints. I feel like he single-handedly inspired the team for that win, when the coaching staff was unable to get the team going at all.

by Jim Everett on Feb 10, 2012 5:06 PM CST reply actions  

my sentiments exactly!!!

I loved it when he went off on Jason Smith (I believe it was that game)… The cameras captured it, and you could see the fury in his eyes… SJax wants to WIN… not lay down… He was more of a coach during a game than what Spags seemed to be!

by RamsIchor on Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Not necessarily a keep

If we hit a home run with a late round rb, or we are stupid and take Richardson, SJax will be traded

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by King Sam Rules! on Feb 10, 2012 5:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Gottalove and respect the effort that Steven Jackson puts into a game every time he takes the field...

Like many of you on here, I hope he retires with a successful Rams side, he deserves it. Hopefully, with Jeff Fisher’s gameplan for using the RB position as a catalyst for a winning team, Jackson will continue to provide the leadership and spark when called upon.
It’s such good fortune for the Rams to have had three of the greatest RBs in the last 25+ years (Dickerson, Faulk & Jackson).

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by JoolzMF on Feb 10, 2012 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

SJax is definitely a great one. Thanks for reading!

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah crap - I forgot about Trung Candidate!

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by JoolzMF on Feb 10, 2012 5:21 PM CST reply actions  

I was just hoping he'd have become a success, so that a guy called "Trung" got into the HOF...

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by JoolzMF on Feb 10, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW, did I read somewhere that London Fletcher is gonna continue to play, and is going into his 15th season in 2012?

Damn, that guy’s been going forever. He and Grant Wistrom were the two ex-Rams guys that I wished we hadn’t traded from the SB team…

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by JoolzMF on Feb 10, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

36 years old

leading tackler in the NFL. Impressive!

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Sjax is my favorite ram

I wish everyone played with his passion.

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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

S.J is the only Rams player that we all had good things to say about for the last 6 years or so

Really been the hart of this team i hope he could retire as a Ram but those days are long gone when players were treated that way

by Rammon105 on Feb 11, 2012 3:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I love STJ39

but life in the NFL for a RB is 5.5 years. It would be a good time to get value for him and free up a boat load of money. We must remember. A lot of the future decisions that will certainly be made by Fisher and the future GM are strictly business. Nothing personal. I love STJ39. Beast! Oregon St. Beaver Believer!

by fearsomefoursum on Feb 10, 2012 5:30 PM CST reply actions  

Nope.....too late

His value to us will never be appreciated any where else. I’ve said it before, I used to drive the ‘trade SJax bus’. But now he’s a lifer and we’re much better off for it. As far as I’m concerned he’s gone past the point of no return. Retire a Ram! JMO

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by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Running backs start declining at...

2000+ attempts. The greats hit 3000ish. Emmitt touched 4000 (ARI doesn’t count).

by Boofer on Feb 10, 2012 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

The main reason we will never trade SJax

Isn’t because he’s so beloved to the city, hell look at what’s happening to Manning in Indy. It’s because we will never get what we want for him because he’s on the downside of his career and he’s worth more to us then what he woukd be to another team. At most that wed get for him is a 3rd, and that being generous..

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 6:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Would anyone trade SJ39 for a top 10 pick this year?

Don’t get me wrong. Jax is a beast but a top 10…..

by jmo53 on Feb 10, 2012 7:13 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

I don't think anyone would.

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by Douglas M on Feb 10, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I know we wouldn't get a top 10 pick for him at this stage in his career

but SJ39 for 2-3 more years, or a Floyd, Jeffery, Reiff, Decastro, Richardson for the next 10-15 years…..

by jmo53 on Feb 10, 2012 7:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

We wouldn't get a 2nd rounder for him

Third rounder would be highly, highly, unlikely. I doubt anyone is gonna fork over a pick on the level that could be used on a decent rookie. Other teams don’t value him, like we do.

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by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

I’d figure he’d get more than this. Just goes to show RB ain’t what it used to be. He is def worth more to us than “them”.

by jmo53 on Feb 10, 2012 9:17 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Have to agree that SJAX is worth more to the Rams then any other team.

Just one of those cases.

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by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I think given the choice the FO would have to considerate

But I don’t think they’d do it for the simple fact the draft is a crap shoot and SJax is proven production…

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

if someone offered a top 10 pick for him

he would not be wearing a Rams uniform next season….

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

That's an easu question to answer if you reverse the roles

Would you give up a draft pick higher than 3rd or 4th for a 29 year-old RB? Do you think that’s what he’s worth? I say no to both questions all day long. The time to trade Jackson was 2-3 years ago, when we knew we needed to replace Bulger. We should have known it when Spags first arrived but nooooooooooooooooooooooo. Anyways Jackson may have been a commodity then, he’s not now. Except to us.

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by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

No, and I wasn't implying we trade him

just didn’t realise how much more we value him than other teams. 3rd or 4th? Damn

by jmo53 on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I just figured for a first round pick

it would be hard not to trade him. We most likely won’t be winning a Super Bowl with SJ39 so I figured get the young talent while he’s still worth something. Guess a few years ago would have been the time.

by jmo53 on Feb 10, 2012 9:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

My sentiments for Jackson make me want him to have a superbowl appearance, too.

If he wanted out, I’d support a team decision to trade him for whatever they could get. Lucky for us, he has always indicated he wants to stay. Why? I don’t know, but it’s just another reason to like the guy.

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by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

hey man...

pittsburgh won a super bowl with a over 30 yr old jerome “the bus” bettis, why cant the rams do the same. lol

by Mark Jaramillo on Feb 10, 2012 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe they had a better team.

We have been a lousy offense to say the least since he’s been here. HOF in my book but he kills Emits record with a better line.

by jmo53 on Feb 11, 2012 1:43 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

You just don't do it.

Jackson has been a loyal and very successful RB his whole career. He could easily have gone on to greener pastures but has stuck with the Rams. Trading him would be utterly classless. The Rams should let him remain a Ram as long as he wants. Let him retire a Ram. If his skills degrade to the point where he will no longer be the starter then they should let him know so that he has the opportunity to retire with his dignity intact.

by LARams1968 on Feb 10, 2012 7:29 PM CST reply actions  

Trade SJ39 - Do him a favor

Our Rams are just awful. Limited talent, seemingly disinterested players, and a decade worth of failure confirm this. And I am a Rams fan. I think the organization made good moves in the coaching area, and hopefully the GM spot as well. But this team will be mediocre at best for the next couple of years at a minimum. Why waste a talent like Jackson in another rebuilding era?

The Rams should trade him for draft pick(s). I am not questioning his ability, desire, or leadership. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. But let’s face facts. He is approaching 30 (death age for a running back, especially one with his kind of miles), he is seemingly injured for a few games each year, and he deserves a chance to play for a decent team with a real chance of winning for the last few years of his career. This benefits the Rams too. A trade can bring in younger talent to grow with Bradford and the offense. I have to think teams like Green Bay or New Orleans would love to have a power running back to balance excellent passing attacks.

There is not a better time to do it than now. 1. There is a new coach who doesn’t NEED to hold on to the only offensive weapon to possibly save his job (Fisher will have 3 years minimum). 2. Getting a first or second rounder would provide at least 4 picks in the first 66 – even more if they trade out of the #2 spot – a great way to start over. 3. The new NFL rookie salary structure is far more accommodating to teams signing multiple high drafts picks, and 4. It would free up an additional $9m in cap space, to go along with the existing $30m.

I am Steven Jackson fan. I appreciate how much he has done for the team and feel bad about how the Rams have failed him throughout his career. If he had spent his career on a winning team then we may be discussing his chances in Canton. But I am a Rams fan first, and I think, considering his age and the state of the team, that he is worth more in a trade than on the field. So do everyone a favor and trade him.

by tbrown on Feb 10, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

I was gonna say

brave start.

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by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Great????

Yes , he’s played with some bad teams & changing regimes, but getting $60mil keeps you playing too!!!

by T.Hill on Feb 10, 2012 8:22 PM CST reply actions  

Tell that to Albert Haynesworth

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by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

if Ramphetamine were around

he wouldn’t take that as a viable excuse

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

You miss that guy, huh?

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

if I had the opportunity, I'd apologize for all the discourteous things I said

he, however, started our dysfunctional relationship, with his unnecessary inserts of concussed hockey players with ‘neighborhood watchdog’ mustaches

His writing was also way better than yours, but thats beside the point

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

HAHA

Trust me – it’s really quite easy to write “LETS GO PENS!!!”

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by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

You should give it a try :)

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

If I had a 3rd leg that I could punt myself in the baby-maker with

I’d rather that, than ever…….ever say those three filthy words in that order

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

A simple 'no' would have sufficed..

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

LETS GO PENIS!!!????!!!!

OK now what?

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Now.... I avoid ever being alone in a room with you

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Just kiddin' dude

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that your re-hab name?

No more phetamine…

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Those Rams are a dangerous drug

One moment you’re on the high of your life. The next you’re curled up in a ball under the overpass asking yourself where it all went wrong.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what the VOICES tell me too.

Remember when haslet trimming the hedges at Rams Park was news – that dude’s gonna take us places. Yeah! Right back under the overpass!

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

If he'll sign for backup caliber money, I see no problem with it.

The guy has to earn those paychecks from the ground up all over again.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree!

Can u keep him under control with the money that he has made?? I think Fish can??

by T.Hill on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

somehow that dude

is still making over 4mil per season……how in the world does that happen at this point. I need him to sign a Jerious Norwood-like contract

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

We got off of S.Jax.

I’m not saying anything bad about the guy,but If we was going to get anything at all, this would be the time.

by T.Hill on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

Aaaaaaaaalright, very funny guys

this is an early April Fools joke………..all these new guys hatin on SJAX can’t be legit. You’ve got to wake up pretty early to get ol DCRamFan! The jig is up, newbies…….or should I say swirbies

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

Been on awhile DC!

I just think he’s at the end of his road for value. It is the NFL?

by T.Hill on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just f'n around

there’s no way not to love that guy, and I’m sure you do too. I hope he’s a Ram for life, but I see how people could go the ‘trade him while the trading’s good’ route

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't want to get into a Jackson trade discussion.

I just don’t want to get into a war.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 PM CST reply actions  

He just needs some F-in HELP

He could last 3 more years easy if he didn’t always have to carry the load!

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

I'd be willing to bet that Fish finds a backup in the draft

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Richardson on 2012!

Just kidding, but no seriously, Richardson in 2012!

They will notice and they will giggle.

by papapegasus on Feb 10, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That is a good topic.

Fish is a 2-back guy . We need to address that!

by T.Hill on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

LMJ, Pead, Martin, Polk to name a few

could be had later on and have just as much of an impact. IMO take the other positions of need first and then go RB when one falls to us that we can’t pass on later in the draft. We will most likely trade down and have multiple picks in a round for this.

by jmo53 on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

If he's STILL able to surpass 1000 yards rushing

given last years circumstances, I have no doubt he can do it for 3 more years if we get him some blocking and receivers who can stretch the field

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

Norwood - NOT!

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Williams?

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If you mean the Caddy, that almost worked.

But he was in the shop too much.

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Busted up caddy didn't do much but watch other teams wreck him.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

tremendous preseason...

if we can just start him mid-season, he could help us win 4 games late in the year before he goes down again

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't it like every offseason this debate comes up?

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

and EVENTUALLY we'll get it right!

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol and what side might you be on?

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

What for?

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

To trade or not to trade SJax

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell no.

Except for 2 top 10 picks. Then I’d think about it.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Were you talking about my signature when you first replied?

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

haha I was not

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Alright because I was confused as hell..

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd trade to the Vikes for AD and a 4th..

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha that's his nickname, but I'm sure you're fuckin around..

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

mm hmmm

I had already lined up a ‘All Day? Not familiar…. Is he as good as Adrian Deterson’

….thanks for ruining that for me

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's one of the most important players to his team

Besides Manning to Indy, Rice to Baltimore and SJax to us..

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Justin King to the NFC West

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Justin King to the Pro Bowl.

You heard it here first.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

You Guru You

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Mel Kiper calls me and asks for my mock drafts.

That’s how much of a guru I am. Not one of those shitty love guru’s but one that is always right and some what entertaining.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Love how you talked about Adrian being so important to the Vikings

but totally ignored DC talking about how you ruined his joke.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, he'll get over it...

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know... He's one for being spiteful..

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

hey guys!

….still here. Ya know, seein all this…

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh shit!!

Everyone act calm, act normal!

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Now you guys are just mocking DC.

This is awful.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Shhhh man, he don't know, it's not like he can read this!!

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever losers!

I’m goin over to the Rams gooroo’s apartment anyways!

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That's nice.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't catch a case of the Eyetolledewesews

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I would be more concerned about getting the ever so deadly

Strike through disease.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I can see things so clearly now...

we will not get Vincent/Desean Jackson

we will not get Cortland Finnegan

we will draft a douche with the #2 pick

we will go 1-15 this season

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

1-15 is a bit generous don't ya think?

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Keep your disease away from me.

Eye dont want tu get it tu. Dam it.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

let teh hate flo through u.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

BAWHAHAHAHA!

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I say it's going to be -1 and 17

That takes bad to a WHOLE NUTHA LEVEL

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Bold predictshun gud sir.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

you guys are weird

and you can’t spell for shit!

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Whu has tyme 4 spelin

They’re is nolege konwledge to impart!!!!

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think they care very much about you.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that day

It was back in October 1963. I was only 3 years old. I could barely even say football. Sure my diaper could have been full but it was the 52-10 pasting that the Bears were laying on my beloved Rams that had me in tears. The whole season just sucked, really. Except for the 2 wins against the niners there wasn’t much to cheer about that year.

by LARams1968 on Feb 10, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool story bro.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah then shit happened.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

And depression set in.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm confused as shit

Are you talking about my sig?

"I'm on the pursuit of happiness and I know
Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi

by RG31 on Feb 10, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Eneyone wana play madden PS3

My gamer tag is super-man-holmes add me all Ps3 rams fans

*Drew Bress Will Never Forget The Day He Got Chris Longed!!!!

by Ramzman18 on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I saw, amongst other teams, that Tennesse has a date with Stanford Routt

think that spells the end of Finnegan as a Titan? More importantly, does he want to play for Fisher?

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 PM CST reply actions  

Tear the pillars down!

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

great, great album

or any Floyd album, for that matter

….sorry if I missed the point

by DCRamFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Tear down the wall?

In response to Jmazziphetamine saying tear down the pillows. My first try didn’t take.

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 11, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Titans, Chiefs, Bills, Vikings, and Cowboys are all interested in him.

I do think this could be a sign of the Titans dumping Finnegan.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Feb 10, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Howie43 can post some pics

L. McCutcheon, Dickerson, Bettis, the baddest M.F.er ever, M. Faulk, S. Jackson this franchise has had some of the greatest RBs ever. Keep STJ39. Maybe he can be the FO guy I wish M. Faulk would have been. Unfortunately, ESPN will eat him up. Too colorful. Too smart.

by fearsomefoursum on Feb 11, 2012 12:22 AM CST reply actions  

In action

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 11, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

WooooooooHooooooooo

He was the starter when I became a fan.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Feb 11, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Those glasses were DOPE!

Um, Um, Um.

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Feb 11, 2012 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

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