2012 NFL Free Agents: Titans And DT Jason Jones Talking Contract
by Ryan Van Bibber on Feb 10, 2012 1:43 PM CST
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PrintThe Tennessee Titans and Jason Jones have entered the preliminary phase of contract discussions. According to Titans Insider, the team is making an effort to prevent their defensive lineman from slipping away in free agency. Re-signing Jones carries potential implications for the St. Louis Rams.
Jones is one of more than a dozen free agents from the Titans 2011 roster. He is also one of their top priorities to keep among that list of players. Jones, a natural three technique tackle, was moved to defensive end last season. He struggled in that role. Jones has indicated in the past that where the Titans want him to play may determine his future with the team.
The Rams need help in the middle of their defensive line. Justin Bannan, who signed a three-year, $8 million contract last year, gave the Rams a stout presence against the run, but the decline of Fred Robbins left the front four without a legitimate pass rusher in the middle.
Jones had an overall grade of -9.3 from Pro Football Focus in 2011, including a -10.9 rating as a pass rusher. In 2010, working in the middle as a three technique, Jones had an overall rating of 21.6 and a pass rush rating of 17.3. I'll offer my usual caveat that PFF's ratings are somewhat subjective, but offer a handy guide for individual performances. It's hard to overstate the difference in production for Jones between the two seasons and two spots on the defensive line.
On a side note, you have to vote for our own Tevin Broner (TST front page author T.Ram) in this sports broadcaster challenge thing.
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“I’ll offer my usual caveat that PFF’s ratings are somewhat subjective, but offer a handy guide for individual performances”
All ratings are somewhat subjective since it’s impossible to be completely objective. PFF offers the best overall performance related view of a player, though. I would rather use PFF’s ratings as a measuring stick for players than many other stats or ratings out there.
Also,
when you include the ratings I think you need a few more to compare them to.
“Jones had an overall rating of 21.6 and a pass rush rating of 17.3. "
Those that are not familiar with how PFF grades players are not going to find as much meaning in the numbers as those that do. 21.6 and 17.3? Out of 100? 50? how do they compare to the best at his position? What’s the average for his position? How do those numbers stack up in relation to other players?
remember when i said Laurent Robinson is a g6
and everyone was calling me crazy… u guys know nothing. i find these people here funny.
You sure told us.
Any other amazing truths you want to lay on us? Like lottery numbers?
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By the way what are you bringing this up for?
Gloating about Laurnet Robinson being good with the cowboys has nothing to do with anything in this article or in the comments. Is it because you want people to know what you did so they respect you? I get your proud of your self but this just makes you look like a douche.
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it has everything to do with this article
All u people do is talk about stats. If anyone looks like a douche it is the one that lists stats in a article about sports.
“Jones had an overall grade of -9.3 from Pro Football Focus in 2011, including a -10.9 rating as a pass rusher. In 2010, working in the middle as a three technique, Jones had an overall rating of 21.6 and a pass rush rating of 17.3”
I dont need stats to tell you steven jackons is average at best. I dont need stats to tell you bradford can not throw under pressure. Just because someone has good stats does not make them a good player.
I'm sorry, but I can't wait for your response
You just called SJAX ‘average at best.’ He is, in fact, the all time leading rusher for an NFL team, and he’s still playing. That is, maybe just to me, pretty Gul Durn impressive
all time leading rusher big deal
hes no barry sanders or earl campbell. he is average.
Yeah
I think this is the same dude that told me he wished I would die in a fire after I disagreed with him about something last year. I think it’s for the best if we just let these go he’ll get banned eventually lol.
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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 10, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
SJax is a Beast!!!
How do you compare SJax to Barry sanders? They are like night and day…. Two totally different running backs… how do average people gain 7 seasons of 1000 yards behind no line? You must be crazy!
Are you fucking serious?
What did Campbell do from 84 to the rest of his career? Jack Shit. I love Earl Campbell but he isn’t light years ahead of Jackson. Why try and compare people to the best players of all time at that position. I can do that all day. Look at your boy Laurnet. He had a good season. Lets compare him to Jerry Rice. WOW LAURNET ROBINSON SUCKS SO BAD! See how that works?
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i never said jackson sucks
i said he is average and he is
I know you didn't but I made one of your bull shit comparisons.
Compare Robinson to Rice and he sucks so bad.
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Robinson is average q
but he is still better then any of are other guys
Better then our guys? Yeah sure.
Was he good with us? Not really.
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I lied......I'm back
was he always average to you, or just now? He’s rushed for 1000 yards in 7 consecutive seasons. That’s got to impress you, considering that we’ve won 10 games in the past 3 seasons……..no?
i dont look at stats
I watch the games. He comes out far to often and he doesn’t get first downs when he has to. He cant close a game out when hes going against a top defense. To top it all off hes made of styrofoam. Hes pretty much ladainian tomlinson 2.0 which LT is another average running back. And this is what i think of him now because now is all that matters. I didn’t even start watching rams games in till 2010.
Well the sooner you guys start watching the games
and stop looking at stats then you will know what player can play and which ones cant.
vikings mainly cause AD
and AD is what you would call a good back
When you were watching Peterson he was fumbling away the NFC Championship game.
So is that what you look for in a “great back”?
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well your right about that game
AD sucked dick all day. But that was just a bad day for him.
Oh wait I forgot something
I forgot he FUMBLED away a monday nighter against the bears in OT so he could FUMBLE away home field advantage for the Vikings in the playoffs so he could then FUMBLE away the NFC championship in the super dome. Sorry I forgot about that part. Great running back play.
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He's great!
His team is atrocious, but he’s extremely talented. My next question would have to be, if you’re saying that all you’ve seen of SJAX is the last two seasons and he’s been ‘average,’ when did you find time to watch Barry Sanders and Earl Campbell?
Who is your team? Are you basing your views of SJAX on what you’ve seen the past two years, because it wouldn’t be fair to assume he’s in his prime, with the style of runner he is?
I guess I’m just baffled that what you’re saying is that you don’t buy into stats, but this is his entire career that we’re talking about, and you……well…….kinda have to look at those kinda things…
Oh so are you talking about the last two years of each running backs careers huh?
Ok.
Earl Campbell combined stats of his last two seasons in the NFL.
1 touchdown and 833 yards. Obviously light years ahead of Steven’s latest 2 seasons am I right or am I right?
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Sorry forgot his 6 games with the oilers from the 84 season
add 4 TD’s and a 278 more yards.
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Sounds pretty great to me.
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Yeah LT is pretty average
he dominated teams on a weekly basis he was so average.
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See my above post lol
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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 10, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
How is saying that something you are proud of?
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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 10, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
There are some messed up people in this world.
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So you bring up that Laurent robinson
had a good season as the fourth option in Dallas in the comments of an article on Jason Jones and somehow Ryan is the douche? Huh?
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by Josh Wehrle on Feb 10, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
I don't need stats to tell you that the offensive talent of Dallas is greater than that of the Rams.
Laurnet isn’t a number 1 so with no other WR’s here no matter how good Laurnet could have been here there is no way he could be as good as he was in Dallas. He’s like Alvin Harper. Jackson average at best? What?
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thanks for the compliment
I am funny. ‘Best sense of humor’ in my high school class
…..now wtf are you talking about L. Robinson for?
I asked that question too.
seems irrelevant. Besides I don’t remember him kissing Robinson’s feet.
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well.....you're crazy......and funny
and you know nothing. He said it above. What don’t you get about that?
Me not sure. Me no know nothing. CAVEMAN GRUNT!
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Who's looking at stats now?
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Well thanks everybody for coming out tonight for this argument.
Special thanks to Joemammaz for the fuel that powered this machine of debate and also Special thanks to DCRamFan for joining along in this flame war. Buckeyefan55 lock your windows tonight GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY!
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Don't worry I'll post that shit for you.
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