2012 NFL Mock Draft: Wide Receiver Or Bust!
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 9, 2012 10:33 AM CST
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PrintThe latest and greatest 2012 NFL Mock Draft is out over at the SB Nation flagship. This one reflects the further refined draft order which got a little more sorting after this weekend's Wild Card round of the NFL playoffs. Of course, the St. Louis Rams have been settled into the second spot since the closing minutes of the season. What will they do with that second overall pick?
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In this mock draft they grab Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon. There's already a debate about who is the top receiver in the draft, with Michael Floyd and Alshon Jeffery also getting some buzz. The Rams have lots of needs, and Matt Kalil might be a better pick here in terms of the draft spot and his talent level. I stand by my belief that the Rams need help at wide receiver.
Ideally, they'll be trading down. Looking at Cleveland's picks in the first round makes them a very attractive trade partner. The Rams could nab Blackmon, or another receiver of their choosing, with the fourth pick, and then fill another need with the 22nd pick, which Cleveland got from Atlanta in the Julio Jones deal.
There is the distinct possibility that Cleveland doesn't trade up in the draft. They don't exactly have a roster loaded with talent, and those picks could do wonders to move that franchise forward, finally. In that case, the other suitors would still give the Rams a similar haul, but probably not the two first rounders this year that the Browns have.
Washington's sixth pick or Miami's ninth pick would be fine spots to draft a wide receiver, and they might even be able to snatch Blackmon or whoever is considered the top guy.
It's going to be an interesting year for the Rams in the draft.
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I was the guy in the NFL commercial
After the season is over I’m just sleeping until the draft starts, wake up with a big beard and start watching tv.
Can’t wait for the draft.
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Question
If Cleveland is interested in RG3, why would they trade up to get him. Doesn’t sound like Minnesota is interested
That's the best part about the draft
Speculations and overbidding for players. Ricky Williams anyone?
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Jan 9, 2012 10:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Only because
they would be worried of some other team trading up to the 2 or 3 spot and nab him before he falls to them.
Because they need our pick to get him
RG3 will be picked second, it’s a question of who will trade for him
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Jan 9, 2012 10:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Most likely, but...
Some teams could only be worried about getting in front of the browns. That’d mean MIN. The Rams just need to do a good job of bolstering rumors that they have offers, so teams have to come to them.
by hex706f726368 on Jan 9, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Cleveland is interested if it’s not going to cost them anything extra. Mike Holmgren will not trade two #1 picks to move up two spots. Sorry to burst your bubble guys/gals, if you traded with Cleveland, Washington or anyone else in the top 10, you will at best get a 32 this year, and a solid #2 next year, if not a 2 & 4 next year. Your not gonna get the big haul Cleveland got last year, due to the fact Atlanta had to move up really far to get to Jones.
"Excuse me while I ride my unicorn over to the gentleman’s club my wife doesn’t mind me visiting and doing coke off a hooker’s ass." - Henry Dawg , DBN - Dec 2011
How bout Blackmon and Alshon?
At 4 and 22? That would cement our WR core for 10 yrs +
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Jan 9, 2012 10:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Or we trade the next 10 full drafts
For the entire first round this year. 32 top players
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Jan 9, 2012 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Haha that's being overly ambitious
I’d be happy with one of them.
Rams - the dummy team the other teams use to boost their confidence/rebound.
no thanks
too many needs to attack one position.. ballsy move tho. so i would take reiff or martin and then floyd or jeffery
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I am with you
Could you imagine, going from the worst WR core to a pretty darn good one. Blackmon, Jeffery, Amendola, Salas and Pettis. I would love to see that! I still think our offensive line will be ok. With a new O line coach and Fisher riding them hard, they can get their acts together.
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems like the Browns will trade up with us and give us their #22 pick
out of desperation just so they can draft RG3 before the Redskins get a chance to.
Rams - the dummy team the other teams use to boost their confidence/rebound.
devon still
but i want martin and floyd or jeffery at 22
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
unlikely
u would have to take them high
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
eh who knows maybe we can get lucky and one of them falls....
or can trade some of our new picks to trade up and get one
im gonna be preaching this til april
martin and floyd is way better than blackmon and whoever we take there lol . blackmon had better numbers but floyd is the better receiver IMHO
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
and floyd still balls out with tht bum tommy reese
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
so ur sayin ud rather have floyd and martin than blackmon and martin?
for the same price of course (bein hypothetical)
if i can have martin either way
then i will take blackmon, but i think they will have similar careers so i would rather spend a later pick for the same production.
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
lol yea expecially
sense alot of ppl dnt have martin or reiff falling past the top 10. so we can get a great LT and a good wide receiver.. or get a good wide receiver and no LT .. im taking the tackle and the reciever
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
yea and reiff MIGHT
be better than both
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
I think if we're healthy next year
we’re not embarassing ourselves in our division. I was of the mindset we’d win 9 last year…….no way that could happen with all of our injuries
only issue is
all 3 and blackmon will be gone by our second pick. so if we take blackmon, we lose out on the other three
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
yea all signs point to us trading down with cleveland
which of course means that nobody will trade with us including them and we get stuck with kalil in one hand and our dicks in the other lol
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone thinking that Cleveland gives up not only one #1 pick but two of them to move up 2 spots is smoking the best kind of crack, and should share. You people dream big, I’ve gotta give you that! No, you can try to arrange a deal with Wahsington, but you’ll find that they aren’t gonna give up the farm to move up 4 spots, so go ahead and dream large..
"Excuse me while I ride my unicorn over to the gentleman’s club my wife doesn’t mind me visiting and doing coke off a hooker’s ass." - Henry Dawg , DBN - Dec 2011
you know wat....
who said cleveland doesnt want mccoy to be there guy? we mite be jumping the gun a bit
holmgren said that he cant committ to mccoy being the man
yet
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
lol the problem was hes too good... nobody can even bare to watch...
thats why he sits… ppls eyes would melt
lemme make u feel a lil more better
clevelands coach is in love with RG3..
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Let me bring you back down out of the crack smoke cloud! Cleveland has two really smart people running the team now, and they don’t throw away draft picks in the same retarded fashion as the old browns front offices did. These guys will be trading out of the #4 spot, getting draft picks from Washingon for RGIII – You can count on it. And Cleveland will get Blackmon wih the #4 if he’s gone we go after Sanu or DE.
"Excuse me while I ride my unicorn over to the gentleman’s club my wife doesn’t mind me visiting and doing coke off a hooker’s ass." - Henry Dawg , DBN - Dec 2011
me likey haha.... well that would be (imo) the best possible scenario for us to trade with them
for a plethara of picks and still get our oline fixed and our playmaker
lol i honestly would keep him til we found better and shit i forgot about brown
switch smith with brown… but i wouldnt mind restructurin smith and make him a b/u
or u move smith to LG and he take a massive paycut
which is better. he is a great run blocker and we get SOMETHING out of him. and if we cut him it will cost us about 13 million dollars total
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
have we tried him at guard at all?
I’ve heard it talked about, but has he actually played that position any?
Only problem
With that article is that they dont mention players players like kenny brit and titus young who helped there teams…not to mention clavin and andre johnson and larry fitzgerald who were draft by not so good teams…plus those players do more than the numbers show
But the point is...
No matter how good those big name receivers are (Megatron in the game at the weekend, Fitz in the SB vs Pittsburgh) they still don’t make enough of a difference to change a loss into a win.
Why draft a WR with the #2 pick, when you can take Kalil or trade the pick, then draft another WR in the 2nd or 3rd round?
Don't jump the gun on the Browns being willing to trade. In the article where
they weren’t willing to anoint McCoy, this was said about the draft:
Use the picks: Heckert indicated he’d like to use all nine picks this season, including the first- and fourth-round selections acquired in the trade with Atlanta. The Browns have three picks in the top 37.
“That’s one of the reason we made the trade — to get more players,” said Heckert. “You never say never, but we like our picks right now. We have nine right now and hopefully we’ll get some compensatory picks. We’d like to add nine good football players.”
Not sure on this
Thomas had a great freakin game yesterday.
Personally I think the Browns
are the ideal trade partner at #4 as I see them going after RG3. In addition, although I have stated a preference of selecting Blackmon at #4 I don’t believe JF (if hired) will go in that direction. I think with his emphasis on power running and defense that he will go in a different direction.
How about pondering this scenario? Trading our pick to the Browns for their #4, #22 and 2nd rounder only to turn around and trade our #4 down again for a team mesmerized by Blackmon. In that scenario I could see JF going after Trent Richardson and an OT or even DeCastro at OG and addressing his defense and possibly WR in the 2nd and 3rd rounds with our bounty of picks.
Cleveland is unlikely
Dan Snyder has no cash, and is desperate. He will trade two years of 1st and 3rds to move up to grab Griffin.
I like Reiff or Martin. An OLB like Brown (if he’s there) and a DT (not Poe) would work this year.
Actually, Dan has simmered down
Shanahan, both young and old, are the desperate ones. If they make that move, it’s a last ditch effort, because his first 2 seasons have been a complete failure
I think the 'skins are the most likely to make an overpriced trade.
Their roster has enough “name” players on it to convince them that all that is missing is a franchise QB. They may even try to work a deal with New England to get an additional 1st round pick to offer.
You're right
every season the Skins make some form of terrible decision (Haynesworth, McNabb, Rex/Beck), and again, both Snyder and Shanahan are desperate. The ‘experimentation’ that they’re doing at QB has been a bust, and it’s crunch time. There is NO WAY that they go into next season with either of those guys as starters, though I do think Rex will be back. There desperation will be further fueled by the fact that they were only 3 games shy of winning that division (which doesnt say much, as they only won 5 games)
You are right that the Skins
are in a big need of a splash but I see no way that the Brown go into 2012 with McCoy at QB. The offense in Cleveland is BORING. In addition, the Browns have the assets (compliments of the Falcons) to make any trade they desire. However, if I were Cleveland I would hold onto their picks and take Blackmon. They would be set at WR for the next 10 years. I think this draft may hold some very interesting value picks at QB later in the draft.
I'm over at Dawgs by Nature right now
trying to get some insight from those guys on whether they think they’ll trade up for us or not. The only thing I can gather, at this point, is that they have ZERO desire to draft Trent Richardson, who I guess they’re mocked to take.
None of the responses that I’ve gotten have had anything to do with excitement surrounding RG3, though
Thats because we would only consider him if he’s at #4 and we feel that he’d be where we are going. Cleveland doenst need another QB in the first round, we have a starting QB in McCoy who had a bad year as did Bradford due to all of the players around him either hurt or not talented enough to compete. We will use ALL of our draft picks. So start looking somewhere else if you think we will trade for RGIII
"Excuse me while I ride my unicorn over to the gentleman’s club my wife doesn’t mind me visiting and doing coke off a hooker’s ass." - Henry Dawg , DBN - Dec 2011
if you meant 'now,' then I agree
especially if we do lose Lloyd. I think even if we were to draft Blackmon/Jeffery or the like, we’d be kidding ourselves to think that the receiver position is ‘solidified’
now sorry lol
how bout stevie johnson or pierre garcon
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, please!
I’d rather have one (or both, haha) of the Jacksons, but they won’t come cheap. Either of the aforementioned are a huge upgrade. Garcon has had a weird career, and I realize Manning being out hasn’t helped, but I feel as though he’s been expected to be elite. I havent seen that. What I have seen, though, is that guy catch the ball, and run like Usain Bolt
big fan of garcon too
in what ppl dont know is that garcon faces number one corners alot because wayne only plays the left side of the field. him or johnson would be cheap and becasue of age, better than lloyd IMO
We've gotta get a damn receiver, though
If the Pats and Pack have shown us anything, since we’re on that level, it’s that your defense can suck if your offense can score 42 points a game. Now, I’m not interviewing for the GM or HC job, but after that little nugget I just dropped, I probably should be
agreed
garcon is my favorite cost effect wise
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Bottom Line IMO
We need Blackmon unless some stud WR pops up out of the combine. Regardless we cannot get passed the point of not getting a WR this draft.
Just a man who loves football
agreed
with lloyd leaving and dx (the only other servicable 1/2 on our team) always being hurt, we cant give up on blackmon unless we can trade down for both of clevelands picks. im still taking blackmon over kalil at 2 tho
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
o dam!
how could i forget! problem solved
If we land Fisher then
S-Jax is going nowhere. Probably going nowhere whoever we land. S-Jax is JF’s kind of football player!
And I do agree that
we should find a way to trade down (to obtain extra picks) and still keep a high enough 1rst rounder to get Blackmon!
yea i was on the whole build an oline tip
but if samis gonna lose lloyd, we need a receiver
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 9, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
I’m TOTALLY for a good oline believe me but I truly think we have the foundation for a solid offensive line. The biggest issue at least IMO is the coaching/strength training/technique plus other things which I’m sure I am missing.
Just a man who loves football
Blackmon
Lloyd is leaving and dx is always hurt, that leaves us with:
Pettis: two at best
Clayton: injury prone
Salas: slot
Amendola: slot
I’m not an expert but were screwed if we don’t get a one. I don’t trust FA and Blackmon has a chance to be unique, our line is better off than our wr corps, get blackmon!
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 9, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
My thoughts exactly
And Gibson can fuckin leave as well.
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 9, 2012 1:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Then get Garcon or Steve Johnson
We need help with this corps and neglecting it isn’t happening..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 9, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wonder
if Matty Ice would agree with the idea a mortgaging a draft for a WR vs addressing a plethera of needs was worth it. I don’t mind the idea of Johnson / Garcon but you can’t go WR crazy. Assuming the WC is the direction we are heading then a guy like Johnson at 1 along with Pettis, Salas, and DA would be just fine. Let’s not forget we were 2-14 so the needs are a plenty. No matter who we draft it will help. There are really only 2 positions I will be pissed if we draft within the 1st 4-5 rounds and that is DE and MLB. I am on the fence as far as safety only because there is 0 depth.
are you referring to Matt Stafford as 'Matty Ice'?
and are you also suggesting that we keep Danario Alexander?
….both would be wrong
am i the only one thinking of a trade with miami?
they have publicly stated there disappointment with chad henne so i really believe they would give a real good offer for our pick. since they only have 1 first rounder and cleveland has 2 and a higher draft choice i think they could throw in a first rounder next year along with brandon marshall. its not as far fetched as you might think. atlantas trade last year shows teams what it takes now to trade up really high.
That would be good
But at 9 million a year for the next 3 years we would have to pay marshall i dont see the FO doing that with out him renegotiating his contract. If fisher comes in, more than likey a west coast style offence is back and amendola ( hopefully is is back) will be good enough to make a cheeper option look better at the #1 WR spot. Garcon would be a perfect fit.
if lloyd leaves it would free up enough cap room
my point is just that nobody is talking about miami as a trade option but to be honest i would rather trade 1 first rounder and brandon marshall then 2 first rounders even if marshalls contract would be a little steep itd be worth it hes a beast on a bad team. hed be a far safer bet then blackmon and im the biggest blackmon fan ull ever meet.
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