Patriots And Chiefs Have Asked For Permission To Interview Josh McDaniels

by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM CST in St. Louis Rams Hire Jeff Fisher

In news that won't shock you, the New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs have asked the St. Louis Rams for permission to speak with Josh McDaniels. Whether or not the Rams have granted those two teams permission to talk to McDaniels is unknown.

McDaniels has been linked to the Chiefs since they fired head coach Todd Haley late in the season. McDaniels is part of the New England diaspora that includes Chiefs GM Scott Pioli. He would most likely be a candidate for the offensive coordinator position with the Chiefs. A recent report said that Pioli considered him for the head coaching gig, but it was impossible to sell to fans and ownership.

New England has an opening at offensive coordinator now that Bill O'Brien has been hired as the next head coach at Penn State. McDaniels held the position before being hired by the Broncos as head coach in 2009.

As for his situation with the Rams, it's been described by team COO Kevin Demoff as "fluid." McDaniels is the only coach under contract beyond February. There were rumors that the Rams would like to hang on to McDaniels. Quarterback Sam Bradford said on Monday, the day Spagnuolo was fired, that he would like for McDaniels to stick around this season.

But Bradford doesn't get to make that decision. The new head coach does, and Jim Thomas said that if Jeff Fisher is hired, then he would most likely not keep McDaniels, based on their differing offensive philosophies.

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get a 4th rounder for him from the patriots. You know they'd do it.

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by dbcouver on Jan 6, 2012 10:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions

I say we give them a 7th rounder to take him

by ChrisL951 on Jan 6, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions

Welcome back to New England

Josh McDaniels

by DCRamFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 AM CST reply actions

Please...

Grant permission…

by howie43 on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM CST reply actions

Great

McDaniels is going to go back to NE and tear shit up, while were stuck in another offenive system for the 3rd system in 3 years, no progress being made at all, awesome!

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 6, 2012 10:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Ditto

by abiRam on Jan 6, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions

AGREE

I say keep McDaniels,why? Just look at Alex Smith with the 49ers, something like 6 OC, in his first 6 years. That turned out well, did’nt it? We don’t need three systems in three years for Bradford and the Rams.

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by Russel Ginart on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions

Difference

Bradford is a much better passer than Alex Smith period.

SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!

by MyACLisBrittle on Jan 6, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions

Peace

out homie. My bet is back to Papa in NE since the OC is going to Penn St.

by RWRAMS28 on Jan 6, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions

Who cares?! :)

Btw, good thing I didn’t do a write-up on mckenzie, looks like he got a job in Oakland. Way to sit and stare, Rams.

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

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by sergey606 on Jan 6, 2012 10:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions

McD should stay

Rams brothers… I don’t quite understand all the hate towards McD. He (just like Sam) was never given a chance to be successful. Short pre-season, multiple injuries, poor play by the OL, and lack of talent on the WR unit.

Sam and McD have one season together in their pockets. I trust Stan will take care of business and make some upgrades within possible with our limited cap space this year. A change in the coaching staff and the culture that came along with them will do wonders to this team.

McD has a proven system, he just needs the right tools and time to establish it in STL. I really don’t want to go back to the WCO. A couple of years ago, we all were so frustrated at the dink-dunk offense that Shurmur put in place.

We should give another year to McDaniels and provide him with the right set of tools to have a chance to succeed. Another downside is the fact that Lloyd may be gone if McDaniels leaves… great… the only real threat we have in the WR unit. We need to get a complement to Lloyd… we shouldn’t have to start looking now for 2 talented WRs.

Keep McDaniels and bring some stability to the offense. This team will learn the system with time. Go Rams!

by abiRam on Jan 6, 2012 10:48 AM CST reply actions

Agreed

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

I hear what you are saying

But with this offensive line not able to block. WR’s not getting separation or able to catch the freaking ball I do not see how this 5 & 7 step dropback passes can work in the near future. McDainiels lost my vote of confidence when I saw Norwood(RB) passing a lollipop to our QB. Pick 6. I got so mad and yelling at the TV my dog is still hiding under the bed.

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by Da Rookie on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions

True but...

… I would hope moves would be made to improve the WR unit and specially the OL.

I am still laughing about your comment regarding your dog! Hilarious! :)

by abiRam on Jan 6, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions

I agree in theory, but

We had a regime that just got rid of all the crap and cleared cap space, they got our franchise QB and set the team up with good character guys, improved from 1-15 to 7-9 despite the lack of cap space then lack of free agents due to the canceled CBA. They appeared on their way to rebuilding this thing when all the things you mention above happened.

Many of these things can be traced to the complexity of the offense, but they don’t get the benefit of the doubt and now we should keep McD?

He should have simplified things early while everyone was learning their assignments. Do you think the bookend tackles we thought we had all of a sudden forgot how to block and wait for the snap count for no reason? No, they were concentrating too much on what they needed to do in the new offense. I think it also contributed to the injuries on offense as well since nobody was playing instinctively.

By the way Shurmur’s offense would not have been dink and dunk this year. He simplified it to help the young guys along in learning the system while putting them in a position to gain confidence and win games. We were a handful of plays and bad calls from winning 10-11 games last year thanks to his boring dink and dunk. As he opened it up everyone would have gotten better. Don’t forget, it’s the same offense that Green Bay runs. McD should have done something similar helping to ease them into the complex offense, keep the defense off the field and keep games close.

Anyway, I actually agree we should give him another year, but I have a problem with people giving him the benefit of all the bad things that happened, but not Spags and Devaney, who until these things happened were considered by everyone to be on the rise.

by raminNY on Jan 6, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions

Excellent points

… and I agree with everything you said. McD should have probably adapted his system to what he had. Still, I don’t think we should get rid of him. As I said on a different thread, if you have a proven coach, would you get rid of him because the system didn’t work due to lack of talent or would you keep him and give him the right personnel to work with? Using a basketball example, would you fire Phil Jackson who has won 11 championships because he wasn’t able to win with a team featuring poor talent or would you keep him and provide him with talented players?

by abiRam on Jan 6, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions

All

that being said injuries, shortened preseason ect added up to 2 wins. No one used it as an excuse to aid in canning everyone else it should be no different for him. He was in the was room when we drafted the TE and WRs. Those were his type of guys so to speak. Not coaching the O up was on him. You can still gain stability by going back to the WC which this team is much better suited for. The WC is a much more stable offense all around than McD style anyways.

by RWRAMS28 on Jan 6, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions

GTFO

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 6, 2012 10:56 AM CST reply actions

Want permission

how about a fifth rounder to talk to him?

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by Da Rookie on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM CST reply actions

Go Pioli Go!

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by Eric Nagel on Jan 6, 2012 11:05 AM CST reply actions

It will probably be denied

I am not convinced that Mcdaniels will not be our next head coach.

SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!

by MyACLisBrittle on Jan 6, 2012 11:49 AM CST reply actions

Honestly Im thinking if we dont get Fisher

Then McDaniels will be our next HC, I just hope we get a qb coach

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 6, 2012 11:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Don't jinx us like that!

McD won’t be the HC, Stan want’s exp. that can win not fail.

by OakCityRam on Jan 6, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions

Martz

Call me crazy Rams brothers but if McD doesn’t stay, I would bring Mike Martz.

by abiRam on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions

youre crazy

by Hibachi40 on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions

I can't

say I wouldn’t like that idea but again I would rather bring in Sherman. Martz does have a way of developing QBs however they usually get killed along the way.

by RWRAMS28 on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions

True

… but it was incredible how he was able to bring out the best of his WRs outside of the stars, Shaun McDonald, Mike Furrey, Hakim, Ricky Proehl, Dane Looker, Kevin Curtis to name a few… a would take any of those guys now in a heartbeat…

by abiRam on Jan 6, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions

I think we need to go back to the WC

Our team seems better suited for that offense.

by ChrisL951 on Jan 6, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions

Update

McDaniels, one season into his run as the Rams offensive coordinator, asked St. Louis for his freedom in the wake of head coach Steve Spagnuolo’s firing, per NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi. The Rams have granted his request, opening the door to a return with the Patriots, where he served as an assistant from 2001 to 2008.

So there goes McD and Lloyd. Question if McD’s offense is so bad, why do the pats want him back:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825c1931/article/pats-asked-rams-permission-to-interview-mcdaniels-for-oc?module=HP11_headline_stack

by OakCityRam on Jan 6, 2012 12:04 PM CST reply actions

Because Pats have the core that will work with his offense

Our team didn’t and that’s my biggest problem with him is he say we weren’t able to pull off the plays he wanted but instead of adjusting he just kept calling the same plays over and over.

by ChrisL951 on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions

Looks like Sam get's another OC

Of course he would if he gets traded too.

by OakCityRam on Jan 6, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions

A reverse field RB pass to the QB

I have never saw that in the Patriot playbook. Want to know why? Bill Belichick would off killed that play as soon as it came out of the mouth of McDaniels.

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by Da Rookie on Jan 6, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions

by Da Rookie on Jan 6, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions

At least

he ‘catches’ it

by Jas the Mace on Jan 6, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions

yah, at this point we were glad he actually caught the ball

more than we could say for our free agent signing who was supposed to help out in the red zone. he could not even catch the ball in the middle of the field much less….

by hbwb on Jan 7, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions