2011-12 Bowls: Discover Orange Bowl open thread (West Virginia v. Clemson)
I promised the shortest intro ever. Open thread after the jump.

Discover Orange Bowl, (West Virginia v. Clemson), 8:30pm - ESPN
References:
- the EDSBS 35 for 35 show (with Luke Zimmerman)
- Bill C's stat-heavy preview and prediction
- The Smoking Musket, the SBN community for fans of West Virginia
- Shakin' the Southland, the SBN community for Clemson fans
There's going to be tons of points scored, so even if you know nothing about the prospects or teams you should be entertained. And yes, Dabo and Dana are two of the most entertaining coaches as well.
So if you're going to watch tonight, drop some notes here. Does West Virginia junior wideout Tavon Austin (#1) look athletic enough to be the kind of playmaker Rams fans are clamoring for? How about speedy Clemson junior RB Andre Ellington (#23)?
Holler.
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Iowa v. Oklahoma?
Did we relocate the Mountaineers to Des Moines?
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 4, 2012 7:27 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Stoops is trying something new.
Hopefully it helps Landry with his passing.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 4, 2012 7:38 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
heheh
I copied the title over from the Insight Bowl.
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yes!
The Insight Bowel!
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Insight Bowel, eh?
That sounds disgusting. Like a colonoscopy or something.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 4, 2012 7:51 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
They have the freshman of the year and the John Mackey Award
at receiver and tight end lol…
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
just calling em like I see em, buddy
3 dropped passes in the first two possessions. One by the aforementioned Mackey winner
that's some pretty extreme calling em like you see em
one drop=can’t catch?
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
none needed
but you were right, dropsies early. Looks like they got it ironed out
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Well that was easy
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Great athleticism from Austin
on that TD. And he had control into the pylon. Good stuff
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early day 3
to a team like the Rams who needs that kind of agility in their WR corps
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Bailey and Austin are awesome.
What do you think about Bailey? He’s got the size.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I guess
He’s not even 6’…but he can play. WVU’s system is so different than most NFL teams. Constant vertical aggression
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
CRAP I meant Ivan McCartney.
He’s the one with the 6-3 frame, and he’s supposed to have a lot of potential.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
he does, but I think he's being horrendously misused in their system
More of a possession type mid-ranger (think Dwight Jones) who’s being used as the underneath decoy for Austin/Bailey. But yeah, maybe next year they open him up more
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
nice hands on that
3rd down conversion
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yup yup
they’ve got some beast receivers there.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Come onnnnnnnn WVU!
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
What is this defensive thing Clemson is doing?
Seems very weird not to just let WVU score.
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Clemson's D-line prospects
is playing themselves deeper into day 2.
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Oh yeah I meant to ask.
You think we could get Sanu with the 34th or do you think he’s the second receiver gone?
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
big offseason guy
Needs to test & interview well. Show that he can work in a system more than just stand out on a crappy team. He’s got phenomenal body control and plus hands, but his footwork underneath is a little sloppy. If he can’t get better at the routes <10 yards, wouldn’t make sense to draft him until mid 3rd or later
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Oh really?
Well that’s good then haha. What’s your receiver board look like? I’d really rather try to trade down and take Martin (we’d probably be out of Blackmon around 7) and take a steal at receiver.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Nothing that unusual in top 8 or so
But overall boards are a bit deceiving. Some receivers are apples and oranges. How do you compare a Kendall Wright to Alshon? maybe a full 6" difference in combine measurement, and HUGE speed difference. Teams that have a certain role to fill will value one and not the other. The Rams, for example, have to be DYING for a speed guy. That gives Wright, Jarius Wright, Markus Wheaton all extra value that other teams may not assign them.
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Truth.
Could use a Torrey Smith kind of guy, but I’d like a Blackmon too. Just never with the #2 pick, we could get so much more by trading down and I think Kalil is just the best value there, so one or the other on that.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
agreed on all fronts
and I noted a couple times last year that Torrey Smith made total sense if we didn’t want to keep Donnie Avery…and somehow the Rams found a way to avoid drafting speed and to cut Avery. An amazing double doozy.
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
LOL.
I didn’t even realize he broke 800 yards until today. Impressive.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
did a much better job working inside the hash marks
than I thought he would. I really wanted Julio to top 1k though
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Oh damn, just missed it.
He had a nice second half surge.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
No fuckin' way.
Austin is a quick little dude hah. JUST inside both times! GTFO LOL.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
unbelievable
SOOOO lucky with those feet
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Whoa
the old frozen O-line trick!
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Good work by Hopkins to get that 1st down
jukes on jukes on jukes
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Tajh is starting to really look the part
of a legit prospect
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
LOL NO FUCKING WAY! HAHAHAHAH
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
WTF?!?!?!
That might have been the smoothest strip of all time…
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Only one Tiger even saw it and began running right away. Damn that was awesome.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
douchie
see what I mean about McCartney being worked underneath? It’s too obvious. Clemson knows he’s working 4-8 every time. Austin, Bailey all over.
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Ahh,
I’ll pay attention to that on their next possession. He’s more like a quick slant catch can’t of guy?
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
kind of guy*
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
well that's what they use him as
and I’d like to see him work deeper, but there’s no need for them to change anything when your offense is working this well. Just as a prospect, I’d like to see him asked to do more
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah true lol. 42 in one half,
don’t change anything.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
smartfootball said it well
Clemson has taken outside WRs Bailey and McCartney out of game by design, but slots (Austin, Millhouse, Brown) just killing them
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by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Damn, this is crazy.
WVU got manhandled all year but every Big East team in top 40 (3 in top 10) in TFL. DL way underrated in Big East this year
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Mountaineers absolutely dominating.
They look legit today. Think they’ll be really good next year if Austin returns.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
with Holgorsen there
he’ll make sure they score at least 30 points per game average for the year. They did put up 21 on LSU…
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
by 3k on Jan 4, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
And over 500 yards.
They really did look somewhat impressive against LSU. It was actually a game for awhile too.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
oooooooh shit
Look at the Saints trollin the Lions…

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
That is just awesome hahah.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
So I my prediction was
Clemson 51, WVU 47. Uhhhhhhh, no.
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
Hahah.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Jebus
35 points in one quarter……………unbelievable
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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
What a throw.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
So.
I’ve watched this gif about 18 times now… and I… can’t… stop… laughing.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 4, 2012 11:16 PM CST via Android app reply actions
That brought a smile to my face.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Fisher is in Denver right now with Kreonke
Some wacky man Softli follows is saying this news…..Da name…..Mike Silver….Idk
WE SUCK. THAT IS ALL.
by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Jan 4, 2012 11:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Take him to an Avalanche/Nuggets game, Kroenke!!!!!
Put him to the owner’s box and get him a hooker!
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Silver covers the NFL for Yahoo! Sports.
I don’t even know what to make of this shit anymore. The question remains: DID STAN GIVE JEFF A HELICOPTER RIDE THROUGH THE ROCKIES?? STAY TUNED!
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 4, 2012 11:59 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
screw that buy him a frigging helicopter!!
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
screw that buy him a frigging helicopter!!
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

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