Can the Rams' draft be successful without a trade?

With all the trade rumors flying around like passes over Justin King's head, i thought i would offer a mock draft that hopefully a majority can walk away from without wanting Spagnuolo back. The only thing this draft is based off is that Lloyd re-signs, so before you read too far into this post just know that there will be no crazy trades, there won't be any 1st rounders falling to the 3rd... yes, even as much as us Rams fans wish we could pick Kalil and Blackmon that will not happen either. After the jump i will throw down some logic.
Round 1, Pick 2. Matt Kalil, OT, USC 6'7" 295lbs:
Every person that doesn't live under a rock knows that while Andrew Luck may be the most sure prospect at Quarterback since Peyton Manning; Matt Kalil might just be the safest pick in the entire draft. He has been compared to the likes of Jake Long. Which isn't a real stretch, he is extremely athletic, his footwork is advanced and he has long arms. His run blocking isn't top tier like his pass protection is, but that's something he will get better at in the NFL. Another note is that Sam Bradford is our franchise Quarterback, and unless we want to see him in a wheelchair along with our season by week 5, then we better draft someone to protect him.
Round 2, Pick 33. Alshon Jeffery, WR, USC 6"4' 229lbs:
While it can be argued that Jeffery does not fall this far, or that he has too many questions. What about his work ethic, what about him getting fat, he gets jammed at the line, the questions go on... but i wont even entertain the questions. Did he have a less than spectacular season? Yes, but he is unquestionably a big play kind of guy. He can go over the middle, he can make the jump ball, he shows that he has the hands. The only question i ask about drafting him at number 33 is, why did numbers 4-32 not grab him? his WORST production numbers were the 4 weeks after Marcus Lattimore went down with an injury, with no running back worth a worry, teams game planned for Alshon. After a 4 reception for 148 yards bowl game against Nebraska i have no questions on his work ethic, trying to make "safe picks" is the reason why we have failed in past drafts.
Round 3, Pick 66. Travis Lewis, OLB, OU 6'2" 227lbs:
Now i'm not going to lie... i thought about going DT here, but i chose against it because we have had a need at OLB for so long that i'm tired of passing it up year after year. Lewis was a lock for a first round pick last year, but his decision to stay in school hurt his stock due to injury and a slight decline in performance. This obviously means he would be a steal here, the only thing that would help us out is the fact that he is coming off of a foot injury, and foot injuries have a nasty problem with showing back up. He is a big guy that can make tackles and also plays good in coverage. He is surprisingly fast for running a 4.6-4.7 40' Next to JL55 he could be a lock for a starter from day 1. The one question that Lewis has never found after his name is one on work ethic, he has been a hard worker from the moment he stepped onto the field as a freshman.
Round 4, 96. Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington 6'3" 337lbs:
Here is a big Defensive Tackle that can help anchor our line, while i'm not sure he's going to be the answer at DT for the next 10 years, i feel as if he will be able to plug up holes and help against the run. Also he is pretty good at finding ways to put pressure on the QB. His stats don't show a lot of sacks but they don't account for the attention he requires from opponents O-lines. If he can get the other O-line to give him a second look he will open up lanes for Chris Long and Robert Quinn, which i could see having monster seasons with a DT like this stuffing the middle of the field.
Round 6, 162. Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly 5'11" 190lbs:
This one is a late gem i think. He runs a 4.40 40' but he plays in the FCS so he will be over looked while he has showns some flashes of talent. If he falls this far there is no reason not to draft him. i see him as a starter by mid season. If he doesnt become a starter he can return kicks and he will add depth at CB, as i dont see king or harris playing in rams uniforms next year.
Round 7, Adonis Thomas, RB, Toledo 5'10, 185lbs:
I think of Adonis as Lamichael James 2.0, the only difference is he played for Toledo and not a fast paced high octane offense like the Ducks. The benefit is he falls to the 7th or even undrafted. He would be a great change of pace back with incredible breakaway speed (4.45 40'). He already has experience with catching the ball, having 31 receptions for 327 yards in 2010. Also he has experience on special teams, and not only as a return man.
So there you have it, a 7 round mock draft that had no trades, it included a few players sliding but no one really knows what will happen come draft time, and i'm all out of tea leaves. Feel free to add your input or any questions you may have.
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S-U-C-C-E-S-S!
That’s the way you spell “Success”
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
did i have a spelling error somewhere?
i wouldnt be surprised if a few were found.
If you're not on the Blackmon Bandwagon watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vf6e1Lz3Pw
No I'm just saying that it's a successful draft.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
oh, thanks.
first fanpost, so spelling was a worry.
If you're not on the Blackmon Bandwagon watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vf6e1Lz3Pw
You are so smart
S-M-R-T, I mean S-M-A-R-T!
Looks pretty good.
I would take the best FCS corner in Trumaine Johnson instead though! Other than that, looks pretty solid. Jeffrey I doubt will be there, but hey, if he is I think its worth the GAMBLE!
91 For life!
I go to school at U of Montana
Johnson is just an animal, the guy is a hard hitter and a great coverage corner, seen the guy run down much smaller and quicker wideouts too.
by The RAMinal on Jan 31, 2012 12:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I go to UofM as well...
Who u be?!
91 For life!
by Ramrocker on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sophmore broadcast journalism student
I live in the dorms because I just transfered from MSU haha
by The RAMinal on Jan 31, 2012 7:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nice work Mister
Hard to imagine us not trading, but it could easily happen. if it does, I’d prefer the draft to go something like this. I can honestly say, if it went this way, I would be satisfied. I’m not an easy sell.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Nice Post but
No No NOOOOOO! There is going to be trades going on like never has been seen before. Why you ask…..because the rookie salary caps make it possible.
LOT
IMO, I think Saffold is fine at LOT. I think offensive scheme played a bigger role in his poor play in 2011. McDaniels vertical downfield attack system simply did not fit the personnel of this offense. His system required the WR,s to get off the line quickly,separate, and get open. With the exception of Lloyd; this receiving group was not up to those tasks.
This put additional stress on the O-Line who had to( as a requirement of McDaniels offense) sustain blocks for longer periods of time. Which is not their strong suit. Bradford was sacked a number of times b/c the plays took too long to develop.
It looks as if the new regime is going to implement a more QB friendly offense with elements of a power running game.
The Rams in that case would look towards not only the draft but also FA to to build a foundation for this type of offens. FA’s that may be considered:
OLT Jared Gaither, Chargers. He was solid in pass protection for Phillip Rivers and is only 26.
C Samson Satele, Raiders. Solid interior lineman.
OG Carl Nicks, Saints. One of the better OG’s in The NFL.
RB Mike Tolbert, Chargers. Tough inside runner with soft hands as a receiver.
The FA’s can allow The Rams to use earlier draft selections for the skill positions. Using the 1st pick for Blackmon and the 2nd selection for RB Doug Martin who has displayed skill at blitz pickup.
Adding larger and more physical OG’s, will open running lanes and passing opprtunities downfield. With a serious running attack safeties and lb’s will be drawn in to defendi the run which leaves one on one matchups with Lloyd, Blackmon , or Amendola.
I strongly rec* this post. Different views are IMO, very productive. Nice Job!
I checked out the Vikings blog and guess what?
They want to trade up for RG3 also. This draft is going to be crazy!
Dam you OAK city
Almost crashed when I read this
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 9:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's going to be nuts!
6 of the top 10 picks need a QB, maybe we can draft a whole 53 man roster with all the traded picks?
has anyone heard anything about this?
“On Frank Cuosomano show, Fisher said that he will build up the team from the o and d lines.”
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 12:29 PM CST reply actions
nope
But I read Peyton can’t throw the ball with the same speed and accuracy because of his nerve damage.
me too
peyton should do himself a favor and retire a colt
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
trade down with cleceland
take reiff and jeffery if they dont sign flynn
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I like this scenario
But I highly doubt Jeffrey drops to the 2nd and if Lloyd leaves I say we got DJax/VJax/Garcon in FA and either get Blackmon at the two or trade down to 4 or six and get him.
This teams needs weapons for Sam to succeed and given years to produce this corps has not done so.
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 12:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
thats ur problem
u think its the saint louis SAMS
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
No I think that a Qb needs weapons,
Your problem is you can’t see both sides of it..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i see it just fine but this is a REBUILDING TEAM
and anyone who thinks we should spend all our FA money (which it will likely take), AND spend our high pick on a RECEIVER is simply a SAM fan. if we sign a big time free agent receiver than we need to draft OTHER HOLES. if we sp[end our money on other holes than we need to DRAFT a receiver. right now we need to receivers i agree.. but we also need two backers, 1 guard, 1 tackle, 2 dt’s, 1 corner, and 1 running back. its not ALL about WR’s
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Alright, Lloyd leaves
We get someone in FA, then he gets the same treatment as Lloyd! What can you not get about this season?! We have nobody else that can get separation consistently!
DX: wounded knee
Pettis: slot at best
Salas: coming off MAJOR injury
Clayton: will he even be back?!
Amendola: coming off MAJOR injury
Yea recipe for success right there man
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
WR is not the only freakin need on this team!!
stop telling me that if we draft two WR’s that our oline (which has 3 guys that may need to replaced), our dline (2), our linebackers (2) will all be better! u come on here everyday and talk about how sam needs weapons but ur OVERDOING IT. a run first offense is not going to spend all their free agent money and their top pick in the draft on a freakin WR!. o and kinda off topic, but vjax would be much better than lloyd by himself
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Never said it was
But when is the time that we finally give the wr corps the attention?! Next year if our line sucks still do we once again go oline or do we make them work for their money?! Yea seems like that’s worked in the past..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well it's hard to say they didn't get attention during last years draft isn't it?
Just like we gave the O-line attention during the 2009 draft. Previous failures are our problem, and it’s turning us into cannibals in here.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
We got 3rd and 4th round slot receivers
I don’t put that as giving them attention. I see that as trying to put a bandaide on a gusher..
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by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
my issue is ive been watching the rams fail form every position since 2004
and am sick of ppl saying “we need to get more recievers in draft and free agency”.. why? can they block too? can they tackle? can they cover?
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
when is Jl55 gonna get his help?
when are we gonna get some DT’s?
when are we gonna bring in some vets on defense that will actually have impact? o wait we cant because we would have spent our ten million on a wide reciever and our number 4 pick on a nother god damned receiver. no one is saying that we should JUST sign ONE WR, but if we are gonna sign one with all of our fuckin money, then we need to use the first overall pick ELSEWHERE and draft a reciever in the 2nd or 3rd
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
This shit needs to hury up and get here
I would love for us to get DJax/VJax and Alshon in this second round..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
agreed
vjax, kalil, alshon, and a run stuffing tackle doesnt sound bad to me. even thoi would rather sign cortland and jason jones after cutting smith
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I hope Jason Smith is gone
Or cut his contract down, he doesn’t deserve the money he’s getting.
Still want blackmon but hey.if we get better I don’t care..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if we cut smith and some other guys
we could end up with 20 mill in cap space. yea thats what im saying if we spend money in FA on other holes then fuck it draft blackmon
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Haha theres a plan!
Is there any good LOT in FA?
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
demitrius bell
only issue is that he is the ONLY ONE lol so he wont come cheap and his team may not even let him go
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Well seeing as they are rare to find,
Wouldnt he be worth it?
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
not if it costs us all our money
too many needs IMO
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
that's the anticipation level i feel
It seems like year after year. decade after decade with a few exceptions, it’s the same thing beginning with about halfway through the season, when we know we’re not going to the playoffs.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
thtas my thing with fisher
ppl will say he is average but my god i would kill to be atleast average year after year.
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
And for a team to succeed
But let’s just ignore the obvious..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hmmm, you might want to see q doctor about that..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hm, not getting what youre saying
But sensing it has something to do with me being a fan because if Sam but oh well..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 6:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your "Everything Oklahoma" bias is so blatant that it colors much of what you type.
… thereby doing yourself and your opinion a discredit.
I don’t expect it to change, and I usually just read it (or not) and move on, but sometimes it gets to me and I comment on it.
Feel free to continue, it is a free site. I’ll continue to (mostly) ignore you because your allegiance to the Rams is secondary (or even tertiary) to specific players and the fine state of Oklahoma.
Alex Song - Krunk as Fuck!
If the RAMS
Do Not trade either the
#2 the 33rd pick/ better be GOOD!
Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (2min. 48 sec)
Interesting scenario
I envision Fisher taking a RB by round 3 however, hopefully one who is much faster than Steven Jackson.
like the mock
another wr that intrigues me that could fall to #66 is dwight jones.
but im with Ram_Redemption in thinking that WR is not the biggest concern right now for this team. and here are a couple reasons why:
1. lance kendricks had a rough rookie season, we shouldnt count him out right now.
2. last year everyone wanted just one more wr to pair with amendola. see brandon lloyd.
3. The leading receivers on the two teams in the super bowl:
round 1 – nicks
round 2 – branch gronkowski
round 3 – manningham
round 4 – hernandez
undrafted – welker cruz
thats my point
its a big need no doubt. but it can be found faster than LT
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
And neither team (i dont think) has a first round lineman, your point?
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by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
but.
they do have really good lines, no?
the point is a good QB and a good line can make superstars out of the undrafted. football is a team game, everyone has to be playing well for the team to do well. out of the better teams a recurring theme is the amount of time the QB gets in the pocket. not how many highly drafted wr’s they have. calvin johnson was drafted in 2007 to a team with a lot of holes, took them 4 years to get it going. so i wouldnt put all that much faith in justin blackmon who is not calvin johnson.
as for the super bowl offensive lines…i think the giants entire line was drafted in the first 3 rounds, maybe 4, with 3 2nd round picks. and the pats have a 1st and a couple 2nd rounders. but im not arguing where a certain player/position should be drafted here. we can go all day long with 1st round busts and undrafted all pros at each position all day long here. my point was these teams are getting it done without the big sexy wr draft picks.
i think what Ram_Redemption and i are saying is, the rams have more than just receiver problems. and maybe they dont even have that, maybe simply fixing this line that has been defunct since 2002 will be all the offense needs. maybe getting a monster at DT and some solid OLB play is all the defense needs.
also, i made 3 points. the last just being an observation of the current top two teams in the league. not long ago i did do some research on offensive lines and who is considered top tier. a majority of the best teams invested a lot in their oline.
my view is, with the #2 pick, you take the best player and right now that seems to be kalil and not blackmon. to me blackmon is more of a want than a need.
How is Blackmon not a need
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by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well
if the rams sign lloyd and another fa wr, he is not a need. hes also not a need because there will be other wr available at 33. there isnt much of a fa market of LT and only a few players in the draft will be playing LT in the NFL.
now, if you are confident in saffold at LT, i could understand not wanting to take offensive line help right away and they could draft a RT at 33.
my need is not so much to give sam bradford toys, but to get him protection so he can play with his toys first.
If Lloyd leaves then Wr is by far a bigger need
We’ve gone years without picking a wr in the first thereby trying to stick a bandaide on it by picking up wrs in the FA, how has that worked for us? Furthermore we’ve kept pick Lineman and haven’t held them accountable for their performance and instead light a fire under their assess. With the right offense they’ve proven to perform well, our wr corps has not. Wr is our biggest need.
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
probably
if lloyd leaves then yes, there is a glaring need for wr help. and i agree, the rams have done a bad job at trying to patch up the wr corps and an even worse job at coaching up the oline.
who is your starting oline for next year then?
you can include FA and draft picks if youd like. im just curious on your thougths of the oline right now. i feel like i havent said the rams need to completely abandon trying to improve the wr corps, but you seem to have no worries about sam bradfords health.
Ive heard that shottys offense is similar to the WCO so
Saffolds at LT
Mike Adams RT
Brandon Washington G (via third round of draft)
Jason Smith (with a pay cut)
Harvey Dahl
I think being coached up this can succeed and has been proven to. Our wr corps has not, but if we got Kalil in the first in Alshon in the second somehow I wouldn’t be pissed at all but just like to think about the possibilities.
Lloyd
Alshon
Amendola
Pettis
Salas
DX (but only as backup)
Not bad I guess..
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by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 4:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Or LT for that matter..
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by RG31 on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If the Rams don't get Zach Brown in the 2nd
Travis Lewis would be a great consolation prize.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
I think I've decided Lewis is undersized over valued
If he were available in the 4th I’d take him, but his stock is taking a rather Roddrick Mucklerish tumble lately.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
A Heavy Alshon
may fall to the second round and I would be on board with that combination. I think I like other OLB prospects better than T. Lewis. If Alshon isn’t available there, I think I’d prefer Z. Brown OLB at that spot and pick up McNutt or the kid from GTech. or Cal. in round 3. Although, I may have seen enough of 3rd round receivers for awhile.
the rams in general
why dont we either trade up to make sure we get luck or take blake griffin the third from baylor at 2. realistically id love to see us trade with the browns who badly need a qb and even though sam bradford hasnt shown me he deserves all that money or that he can be a franchise qb i think we should say screw it and load up on picks say we trade our number 2 overall pick for the browns two numbers 1s and maybe we also demand a second or third rounder i have heard loads of this gets their two number ones and cribbs but the cold truth is all we could use cribbs for is punt kicks reutrn and hes too pricy for a mediocre role. we need picks now and to either go all in or continue rubuilding. steven jackson cant continue this pace forever and he deserves a championship we could trade him for a pick or two but that leaves bradford to alot more heat and more prone to injury as defenes no longer have to fear the running game from the rams. we have in my mind 4 gapping holes needing to be plugged. we need another DE to compliment chris long a shut down CB no bartell isnt good enough he actually hopefully retires he is too prone to injury we need a dominant WR and most importantly either we plug middle with a solid DT for future purposes or we switch and go to a 3-4 and draft another ILB we are too soft up the middle. we cut alot of the vets robbins etc we have a basic d corpse mikelll dahl butler laurenitis and sometime quinn but we are still too soft and our offensive line is like a wet soft piece of cardboard
rams in general
all in all my 1st choice is get luck and trade bradford or at least take blake griffin the third and trade bradford but there is something everyone foprgot about most importantly a sneaky pick is coming this year that is undervalued prince akumenyora the new york giants CB teammate from college the opposite CB on the opposite side of the field is supposed to come out this year i say we take him maybe its just me.
by Dominator9987 on Feb 13, 2012 2:37 AM CST up reply actions
Chris Rainey in the 7th.
I would substitute Rainey for Thomas. Rainey is kind of high profile, so he might be gone. 7th round is a flyer anyway, so I’m o.k. with your guy too. I’m pretty sure Jeffery will fall to the second as he seems to be getting bigger and slower. I’d be tempted to take Z Brown instead and concentrate on one of the 3rd round WR talents. Hate to give up on Jeffery, but I’m not seeing him having an NFL brain. Reminds me of Mike Williams from USC many moons ago. Just a slight stretch on some of the players, but I can see the draft falling exactly like you have posted. I would consider it very successful if Alshon is motivated and Lewis plays to his potential. Really great, thoughtful post.

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