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2012 Allstate Sugar Bowl

Allstate Sugar Bowl, (Michigan v. Virginia Tech), 8:30pm - ESPN

New Orleans is a wonderful city. It's great for, let's say, culture. It's great for culinary exploration. It's also great for football. There's a reason the Superdome hosts every big football game it can every so often - the stadium and the city craft the perfect environment for a fantical love of everything football. It's the kind of environment where a person can walk around wearing argyle-patterned pants with a drink in one hand, the other stuffed in a pocket with a dead wolverine on one's head while the sun is still up, and not a single person will notice.

On the field, there's good talent to scout. Michigan's best prospects are along the lines both defensive and offensive. While C David Molk is, IMO, the best the Wolverines have to offer, DT Mike Martin, DL Ryan Van Bergen, DE Craig Roh and OT Taylor Lewan will all factor in on day 3. It's pretty obvious to see why Michigan boasts one of the best running games and defenses in the country.

The Hokies match the Wolverines in production, but where Michigan plays a power game with an athletic QB, Virginia Tech sacrifices power for athleticism across the depth chart. Their star RB, David Wilson, could well be a late 1st round pick if his offseason goes well. Jayron Hosley is one of the best corners in the nation from a conference that is quickly becoming a pipeline for teams looking to improve their secondary. Jarrett Boykin is versatile enough that he could find himself a starter at WR in the NFL when the 2012 season rolls around.

I'll have the open thread up later.

Rams player of interest: RB David Wilson, Va. Tech (Jr.)

Final score: Michigan 17, Virginia Tech 16

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This will be almost as painful as watching the rams...

Next season that is… We play the nfc north and afc east. If we dont get someone to help put up points (blackmon) we are in trouble.

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

that's why i put

Wilson as the player to watch over Molk

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Jan 3, 2012 4:45 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

What round you got Hosley? Two?

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Jan 3, 2012 4:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I havent watched hosley

but I would like a cb, olb, or dt in the second (unless a Starting caliber OT falls to us) im hoping we trade back and get blackmon and an OT in the first

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 6:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Kffin picked

Florida, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, Oregon, and South Carolina all to win yesterday. He picked V-Tech today, so I’m gonna have to go with that heh. On a serious note, that’s fuckin’ impressive to go 100% yesterday.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 5:23 PM CST reply actions  

Jason La Canfora:

figures Fisher to be hired in St Louis by Sun/Mon. thats purely his guess, but i assume its based on sources

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Jan 3, 2012 5:31 PM CST reply actions  

David Molk

Is the best Center in the country

WE SUCK. THAT IS ALL.

by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Jan 3, 2012 6:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

3k

After watching blackmon last night, are there still lingering questions that you have about him?

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Jan 3, 2012 6:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

it's not that there are questions

but he has limitations. It’s not an insult. If I say Brandon Lloyd has limitations, it doesn’t mean that he can’t be successful. I just see more limitations in his game compared to other WRs who come out that get hype put on them.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Jan 3, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

so...

are you a fan of drafting kalil? i feel like either choice is one that could be argued as “best” for the team. if kalil turns out to be franchise OT, then you cant complain, and if blackmon ends up being a larry fitz, andre johnson, roddy white, type of wr, then you really cant complain. but if we want kalil we CAN’T trade down… that being said, i’m not sold on the browns wanting to trade up for RG3, if they do i would say go for it and pick whoever Minnesota doesn’t grab, because honestly they may look at blackmon as a young go to guy for ponder to develop with IF they plan on keeping him or bringing in a young QB. what’s your thoughts?

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I personally think that kalil has the higher ceiling at his position

If blackmon becomes a roddy white for us then cool… But unless he puts up 1400 yards and 10 td’s, he is a waste. Because other wide recievers that went top five, were considered busts if they dnt live up to the calvin andre or larry standards. U can get a 1000 yard 8 td reciever anywhere (which is what I see blackmon), so why skip on elite talent for just good? Most mock drafts have kalil and jonathan martin above him. I want one of them even if we trade back

by Ram_Redemption on Jan 3, 2012 9:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That's what I've been saying.

Never thought he’d be bad, but with the #2 pick, I won’t Megatron good or nothing.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

*want

GRAMMAR NAZI!

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Oops.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know.

I’m just being a grammar nazi.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Ppl keep saying that to me

And I laugh it off awkwardly cause I dunno what it means

by Ram_Redemption on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Grammar Nazi's are people who constantly point out errors in people's grammar

despite it being pointless. They most do it because they are dicks.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I do it TO people who are dicks lol.

It’s even funnier when someone attempts to do it but they get something wrong as well.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I love that.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

You see this often.

“(Fixes spelling). Your an idiot).

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

With an end quotation.

And minus the closed parenthesis. Face palm.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

FUCK!

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL!

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Lolol

just someone who corrects other people.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

since i spent the first half of the season deployed

i’m not as up to date on all the college players like a normally am, but are there any sophomore receivers that we could possible get next year if we take kalil? i know that sammy watkins (clemson) looks like he could have the talent, but he’s only a freshman and at 6’1 180 he needs to put on some weight…

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Robert woods

Look em up . Straight monster .next years blackMon

by Ram_Redemption on Jan 3, 2012 9:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Woods plays for usc right?

my favorite wr are from non-hyped prospects because they go to schools that arent top 5 or sec, then they hit the nfl and blow up.

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 9:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea usc

He is just so swift and fluid

by Ram_Redemption on Jan 3, 2012 9:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And the surest hands in America :D

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Keenan Allen, Kenny Stills, and Robert Woods come to mind.

Woods is as small as Sammy though, with probably a smaller frame as well. He’d be what Steve Smith (Giants/Eagles) was pre-injury IMO.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Ppl just love thr position too much

some people want ys to take a good wr top ten like you can’t find a player like him later (unless he’s calvin)

by Ram_Redemption on Jan 3, 2012 9:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

HOKIES NUMBAH WANH!!!!

All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain

by kinzav29 on Jan 3, 2012 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

Holy shit,

Molk hurt in pregame warmups. That fuckin’ sucks lol, bad luck.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

Converted this into the open thread

Turf Show Radio went longer than anticipated (thanks for sticking it out, Van) and I’m beat. Gonna watch as much of this as I can in bed…probably about 10 minutes

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Jan 3, 2012 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

Jayron Hosley-CB(VA Tech)

Could be a guy to look at in the 2nd or 3rd round. I give him a mid-2nd round grade, but his stock could rise or fall, it’s a looooong way to go. Also, Mike Martin-DT(Michigan) could be a good mid-round prospect for us

by turpinforpresident on Jan 3, 2012 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

i'm the kind of person that LOVES

a high power offense, but i feel like we are good OLB and a good DT aware from having a defense that scares QBs, if you CB come back healthy i think they should be able to cover well enough to allow our men up front to put pressure on the QB. If the defense keeps improving like it has been, and allows bradford and jackson to have a more manageable game, i’ll be happy. i would love to get asente samuel… hell give them smith… although i’m probably the only rams fan that is hoping smith gets a new coach and flashes some brilliance next year lol… i just cant give up on him..

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

We do have some good corners

But sadly, we’ve seen how they get hurt. It’s kind of an anomaly, but it always seems to happen. I think we need to stock up on CBs so we don’t have a situation like this past year. I think middle rounds of the draft and free agency would be good places to look. Shaun prater, donnie fletcher, brandon boykin, coryell judie, jamell fleming, and dequan menzie would be some good names to remember. If we did happen to go corner in the second, my favorites would be stephon gilmore, jayron hosley, and chase minnifield

by turpinforpresident on Jan 3, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish we had depth like the nyg

And eagles. It is ridiculous. The have like 4 good cb a piece. Id be happy with one of their cbs.

by Rando on Jan 3, 2012 11:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Are you serious? I missed TST again.

Hope it was a good podcast

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 3, 2012 9:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I miss it all the time

trust me nothing happens.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

JayRam Hosley.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

Kiffin might finally get one wrong :(

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

No.

Stop asking.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

YOU THOUGHT WRONG!!!!!!

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

haha!

so what’d I miss today…….tried to keep up while at work, but it just seems like a whole bunch of hurry up and wait in regards to the coaching situation

by DCRamFan on Jan 3, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know what happened today.

The jist of it is shit happened, people got fired, and some other stuff happened.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Jan 3, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

How come...

it’s not illegal motion when the kicker moves forward before the snap on a FG attempt ?

by howie43 on Jan 3, 2012 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

Good question

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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 4, 2012 12:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

if only we had signed victor cruz...

we’ve gotta hit on one late round pick/UDFA other than Darian Stewart right?

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by loyal2therams on Jan 4, 2012 1:51 AM CST reply actions  

oh wait we cut all of them for useless veterans

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by loyal2therams on Jan 4, 2012 1:51 AM CST up reply actions  

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