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Assessing the Needs of the St. Louis Rams for 2012

About a year ago, I asked our battalion (or have we entered brigade status?) of readers what they thought the biggest needs for the Rams were with the 2010 season behind us.

It's that time again.

After the jump, you'll find a form where you rank each position from 1-10 (10 meaning we desperately need help, 1 meaning no changes are needed whatsoever).

How do you grade the Rams offensive tackles? Rodger Saffold has the look of a capable young player, but should Jason Smith be in the team's long-term plans? Guard and center are also going to be interesting positions to analyze?

How about defensive tackles and outside linebackers? Are they both 10's? I'll definitely be watching how the safety votes come in...

What about the specialists? Do Donnie Jones and Josh Brown still deserve our confidence?

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im really confused on how to fill this out

are we ranking them each individually on whether that need is a level 1-10

and is 1 the least and 10 the most needed or is it like…oh thats our number 1 need, this is our 2nd need etc..

by Lexxi on Jan 26, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

10 meaning we desperately need help, 1 meaning no changes are needed whatsoever

So if you’re good with our DE rotation, that’s a 1. If you think we need 2-3 new outside linebackers, that’s a 8, 9 or 10

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by 3k on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey

3k, I graded mine with 10 being we need no help and 1 needing lots of help. Sorry!
I confused myself. That cool?

by KeSt on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

can you go ahead and re-do it?

Cause once we get a ton of responses, I come up with some data sets. If you want yours included, it’d be easiest to just re-do your answers.

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by 3k on Jan 26, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd mention hanging chads

but I’m not going commando today

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by 3k on Jan 26, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

A quick off top question?

I’ve read we will have $40 mil in CAP in 2013, and have $10 mil now?
Can we make deals with FAs that pay say the league minimum this year, and more next year so we can access some of the 2013 CAP room now?

by Douglas M on Jan 26, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you think about picking guys off the wire this time of year?

Remember him. I’d take him as the first in a series of open door experiments this off season. Played his ass off at Pitt, just hasn’t found his nitch yet.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Jan 26, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

a need is....

to get sam bradford on twitter! lets get it sorted people?!?

by samtheram8 on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

Haha

Has anyone heard how danny.A is doin

We might be down now but when we get back up u better move out are way are ul get RAMED!!!

by Ramzman18 on Jan 26, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

dannys is...

going to be in the uk for the superbowl to try generating some interest in the wembley game

by samtheram8 on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

I think a return guy is something that we've been missing and it's been overlooked IMO

That cheerleader didn’t do that hot, Danny wasn’t exactly lights out and that Hood guy had a TD but other than that hasn’t done anything.

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

looking at last yrs needs...

im a little sick that none of those needs were addressed. dahl was a great addition to the line, but i didnt expect the others to perform so poorly that it would require another addition.

Who doesn't enjoy watching a niner get owned by a good stiff arm?

by unleash-the-beast#39 on Jan 26, 2012 12:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

actually they "addressed" the needs

We needed an OLB, they signed Pop and forgot who else…but they didn’t do that well.
We needed a RB, they signed Caddy-fumble and Norwoody.
We needed a OL, they got Dahl, which was the only good sign.

So IMO it wasn’t that they didn’t address them, they just signed some shit FAs

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

guess i should have said that they didnt “successfully” address those needs, and hear we are a yr later still needing help at all those positions…sigh….

Who doesn't enjoy watching a niner get owned by a good stiff arm?

by unleash-the-beast#39 on Jan 26, 2012 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and that other sack of crap called an olb was ben leber

Who doesn't enjoy watching a niner get owned by a good stiff arm?

by unleash-the-beast#39 on Jan 26, 2012 1:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I guess I was too busy not remembering his name

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 1:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

i just saw the most depressing news in my life as a rams fan

rams had the worst value at offensive lineman in NFL HISTORY. not sure if it was just someone’s opinion or if it was calculated… but the guy i talked to made it sound like their were stats to show this… dam

by Ram_Redemption on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

Wouldn't doubt it at all.

We had one of the highest paid O lines, with one of the worst outcomes. I don’t even know how it’s possible to fail so hard.

Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.

by DuhhhRams! on Jan 26, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Jordan Poyer.

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I definitely think we could use a new punter and kicker

Donnie has definitely regressed and Brown can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Drop both of them and go cheap

Baseball-Cardinals
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by clwxz5 on Jan 26, 2012 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

I felt a lot better about this team until I filled that out.

Only four positions graded at a 4 or lower, and one of them was Kicker!

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 26, 2012 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly. I think I had more 9's and 10's than < 5's.

I REALLY want a new starter at DT or OLB taken in the 2nd round.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 26, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Would you consider him the FS or SS? I could never tell with they way Spags shuffled them around.

I just lumped them together and said 5 for both.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 26, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Dahl and Butler drag the whole scale down.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 26, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

+1111 Totally agree

Dahl is good in run situations, but in pass coverage he’s a slower safety version of Justin King.

by Douglas M on Jan 26, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

he is a FS

I gave a SS a high one too

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Where does Darian Stewart fit in?

I like that kid. I’d be happy with Stewart and Mikell as our safeties going into next year.

Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.

by DuhhhRams! on Jan 26, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Ditto.

Stewart will never be a top safety in the league, but I think he’s serviceable enough that we can focus on some other positions.

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 26, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I also agree about Stewart

He’s the one bright spot from the Spags regime, besides the obvious names

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I know I will probably get ripped, but I'm not ready to give up on Josh Brown yet.

I mean he watched the QB get the crap knocked out of him play after play. I’d be nervous and screw up kicks too. He was good in the past. Lets see what the new staff can do with him.

by David5264 on Jan 26, 2012 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

I agree, but we have nothing to lose by keeping him another year.

Next year is where we will have a bunch of cap money clear and I would really rather build on that egg and get a few big name F.A’s next year to compliment this years draft.

by David5264 on Jan 26, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Biggest Need...

…is a Strength and Conditioning Coach! Our IR team could have beaten our starting team this year!!

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by GothamKnight on Jan 26, 2012 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

How many times do I getta vote?

signed your friend, Ramchop

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Jan 26, 2012 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

I want a RAMCHOP!!

I miss him… Don’t tease if you don’t please!

Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (3min. 8 sec)

by Da Rookie on Jan 26, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure jswirb took over chop's duties.

But at least ’chop wrote lengthy write-ups and replied to our comments.

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

yea, but did Chop

use spaces in between terrible points, or

CAPSLOCK, OR

strikethrough, or

mispelings?

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

he used CAPS i know that

he made similar points to nastradouche, no strikethroughs though and sometimes meespeling stuf, but who doesn’t

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Be nice !

Or I will “Unfollow” you. ROTFLMAO

Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (3min. 8 sec)

by Da Rookie on Jan 26, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh dang, that wouldn't be good!

It’d bring me down to like 35 followers :( you can see I’m very popular on the tweeter with my witty twits.

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but sometimes they don't make sense.
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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha did you seriously unfollow me then followed again?! LOL

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 11:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought it was funny?

LOL

Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (3min. 8 sec)

by Da Rookie on Jan 27, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

ilUv TO TAKE THE OPPOSCIT POINT OF VEW ….

Go RAMs !!!

by VETT on Jan 27, 2012 5:19 AM CST up reply actions  

JANE, YOU IGNORANT SLUT

I TOLD YOU THE RAMS WERE GUNNA BE SHIT LAST YEAR

noBODY BLeafed me!

I sed it FIRST, I tells ya.

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Lexxi

Do not try to understand it. Just accept it and reverse order everything. LOL

Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (3min. 8 sec)

by Da Rookie on Jan 26, 2012 5:17 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

We have a girl? Or just a nickname?

Haikus are easy,
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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Does anyone think Illinois Mike is ever going to be healthy?

Will he be a Ram in 2012? Do you want him to be a Ram in 2012?

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

When he retires. Not sure anymore, depending on FA and Draft. I want to want him, but not sure anymore – I’m sure he’ll tear it up on the next team he’s on.

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

unfortunately, I don't think we can anticipate him staying healthy

He’s serviceable for half a season at best. I’m not sure if Fisher/Schotty plan on using 2 TE sets or not, but if they do I’d like to see us get someone in FA. Drafting someone, in my opinion, isn’t a priority, but I think that a solid TE (assuming they want 2) in FA could make a big impact on our offense……… if in fact we have an offense in 2012

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude, we were supposed to use this "2 TE set" under McD

besides NE, no one uses it IMO, or at least can’t use it. Kendricks and some TE in the later rounds or FAs (that aren’t Finley or other spendy ones) are the ones we’ll keep. Shit, I thought Bajema could block, he couldn’t even do that well this year.

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, the dude's got "UhOh" written all over him..

Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.

by Joe Mazzi on Jan 26, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Never get into politics on FB, god damnit.

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by sergey606 on Jan 26, 2012 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

Yea never ends right lol

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 26, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I put 11 for Wins

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

thats wrong

we’ve only won 10 these past 3 seasons……..close though!

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

11 as in one more than 10

The item of greatest needs

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

my aplogies

these Fat Tire Amber Ales are delicious. Though I did not see a ‘wins next season’ category above, the aforementioned brew allowed my mind to wander freely. I’m gonna go drive now

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I put it in the comment box

Ahhhh, tire beer…

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

if I weren't driving right now

and if this beer weren’t in my hand, I’d rec this………….I mean wreck this……..car

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

4 god's sake - pull the car over

I could use a rec- but not in a car. Had one of those new year’s eve. Minor rear ender. Fortunately nobody got hurt.

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Was she cute?

You can pick your friends and
you can pick your butt.
But you can't pick your friends butt.
JohnnieWarthawgism

by johnniewarthawg on Jan 27, 2012 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Old enough to be my daughter so doesn't quite compute

And she hit me – so no fun.

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 27, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

?

?

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Jan 27, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Comment box at the bottom of the form

I put “11 for need wins”

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 27, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

aforementioned

I think you have room for a couple more til it’s spelled:

a4fgm’geftionrfed, fuk, afromented, daam – oh fukit!

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That's progress

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I always herd it was

nine hundred and eleven

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

that can't be right

plus I already started running. In only made it about 12 feet because I thought I saw a quarter on the ground…..still lookin

by DCRamFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, that's 5 aluminum cans where I come from

You can’t pass that shit up

Gabriel to Snow - TOUCHDOWN!

by ramdude on Jan 26, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

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