2012 NFL Draft: Trade Rumors Say Washington Wants Rams' Second Pick
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 24, 2012 6:26 PM CST
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PrintIt's that time of year where NFL trade rumors start heating up as teams get ready for the draft and free agency. The St. Louis Rams hold a key piece of real estate in the 2012 NFL Draft with the second pick, and talk about the potential to trade that pick is already gaining steam. Today, Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network reports that the Washington Redskins are expected to be suitors for the Rams' second pick.
LaCanfora spilled the news in a Tuesday report focused on the future of Peyton Manning. He said that Manning is unlikely to end up in Washington after the Colts give him the expected boot. Washington lacks the skill players and offensive line to help him win a championship in his waning years.
NFL executives, says LaCanfora, expect Washington to trade up to the Rams' spot in the draft.
Such a trade would likely fetch the Rams another first-round pick in return and more picks in later rounds. In the meantime, we can assume that trading down with Washington would give St. Louis the Redskins' sixth pick in the first round.
Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon would surely be the first target in that spot, but there's no guarantee that he would fall that far. Other names that might appeal to the Rams there if Blackmon is not available include: LSU CB Morris Claiborne, Iowa OT Riley Reiff and Alabama RB Trent Richardson.
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We want your 1st, 2nd, 4th and Roy Helu
Take it or leave it.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
I was gonna mention Helu
they have more RB’s than they know what to do with, but out of Royster and Helu, I’d take Helu. I’d still prefer for the Browns to make a smart decision for once, and give us their 4 and 22
I'll take that.
Heck it took Shanahan 13 weeks to figure out they had a gold mine with Helu. Maybe he’s stupid enough to part ways with him in a deal like this.
gotta remember
they signed Hightower to be their guy. The RB situation was just as F’d as the QB situation. They don’t know who their guy is at either position…between Hightower, Torrain, Helu, and Royster somethings gotta give
Shanahan
He even brought in Tashard Choice for a couple of weeks.
These are all good points
A Redskin RB isn’t bad, but stay away from their WR.
by fearsomefoursum on Jan 24, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
You Say That....
like the Rams’ receiving corps is better…Haha
by redskinsfan909 on Jan 25, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Helu
Had to work on his pass protection and receiving out of the backfield. It had nothing to do with Mike Shanahan being “too dumb” to “figure out he had a gold mine with Helu,” after all he was smart enough to draft him genius. Haha all of this Redskins bashing you Rams fans are doing here is quite funny.
by redskinsfan909 on Jan 25, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
We'd Probably Leave It
And laugh as the Rams win 2 games again next year. Haha
by redskinsfan909 on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Wnt believe the talk til draft day
Washington seems to have too many holes to fill for this
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 24, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
QB is their #1 priority, without question
one of their FO goons said the other day that they’ve found their QB for next season ‘and the fans will be elated.’ They won’t be going with Rex or Beck, and I don’t see anyone outside of RG3 that they’d even show interest in at the 6 spot. It’s RG3 or Manning, IMO
It was not one of their "FO Goons"
It was a local business man with connections to the front office. The Skins front office would never come out and say something like that, both Allen and Shanahan are known for being extremely tight lipped about the draft and plans.
So Dennis Greene, President of Operations isn't front office
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/22403.html
You can just read the first sentence, playa
Thats a bold statement to make isn't it?
What if cleveland or miami tass up..what if we dnt want to trade down.i question if rg3 is who he means
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 24, 2012 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dennis Green still thinks
Culpepper is the best QB in the 1999 draft. He thought He was what they knew he was.
by fearsomefoursum on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
gotta be Manning or RG3
I don’t see them talking any other QB (in this draft) at #6. Flynn is a Dolphin, and after that, I’m not sure how much elation you can get from the FA’s available.
@ douglas.. Shanny wants to win now.. Who better than peyton barring health
@dc.. Idk it just didn’t seen smart unless they know its a done deal. Dnt count out them trading down for tannehill.. He’s gaining hype and the skins could use the other picks to build around him quick v
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 24, 2012 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
seems like a typical Skins move
but they NEED to get someone young and someone who’s going to be there for the long haul. Manning, barring injury, easily makes them an NFC East contender. Maybe Peyton wants to see Eli twice a year….who knows?
I’d be more inclined to think they’d go young, but every season they do something insane, so I guess we’ll wait and see. Common sense goes out the window in the offseason for that organization.
To your point (to Doug), the Shan Clan NEEDS to win more than anything. 11 wins in 2 seasons, and regressing in the ‘W’ column from 2010 to 2011. This man didnt get hired for mediocrity. His seat is warming, and a QB is absolutely the solution to cooling it off
Yea I agree shanny's seat is boiling
Thats why I can’t see him wanting to risk his future on a rookie. And they do run there office like monkeys (lol) but a statement like that would suggest something other thanthe draftto me especially since we know (assume) that griffin will have many suitors. Maybe they’ve been talking to a free agent qb.Maybe flynn?
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If Flynn doesn't go to the Dolphins
then they’re the worst team in the NFL. If Philbin can’t make that happen, then the Phins might as well put a mortgage on the cellar of the AFC East, because clearly they own it
It's Funny To Me
How you Rams fans are on here talking bad about the Redskins as if your team is any better. Haha the Rams are garbage and we ALL know it. If our front office is “run by monkeys,” then I’d hate to know how the Rams’ front office is run. Shanahan is NOT on the hotseat, his seat is actually quite cool. The “announcement” that they found the starting QB and Redskins fans would be “elated” is merely a rumor. If RGIII doesn’t fall to #6 (which he most likely won’t), Shanahan will most likely trade down and look to improve the offensive line while picking up extra picks.
by redskinsfan909 on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Too bad Ditka is not coaching anymore...
after giving up an entire draft (8 picks) for Ricky Williams for only the 5th overall pick, imagine what we could get from a #2.
I'm not so sure
If we got even two teams, maybe three, that just love RG3….then, let the bidding wars commence!!! We could win out HUGE!!! And RG3 will not wear a dress.
by fearsomefoursum on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Realistic
1, 2, 5 this year and 2, 4 next….best we can get…unless Cleveland wants to dance with two #1s this year….which I see as difficult for them to give up.
by fearsomefoursum on Jan 24, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
We need their entire draft through the first 5 rounds or some picks next year
But these guys are thte ones I figured we’d be doing business with all along.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Wonder if that was brought the Fish here
Wonder if Stan knew about the offer and that was what sold Fish.
Rams get a load of picks, get to rebuild their line and weapons for Bradford. Fisher came to Rams park to meet with Bradford to make sure he was the real deal. Fisher like Sinatra, gets to build things “his way”
I think its very possible the Rams take RB Trent Richardson. with the first pick if we make a trade
Jackson is getting old and Jeff does like to run the ball lol
if anything he would be the best replacement
but I’m thinking Polk or LMJ, I prefer the former
Haikus are easy,
but sometimes they don't make sense.
Refrigerator.
man im gettin shitty tired of this cb talk.... bartell... fletcher.. murphy.... pfft... if and IF we need another one
FA you dumbass analysts and rams fans…. finnegan cool somebody else fa cool….. dont waste a pick on one in the draft… and washington…. no …. unless no cleveland is possible…. but still get 2 wr lloyd and floyd or blackmon and at least 1 o line in fa…. we trade with cleveland….. thats one o lineman and wr… and we could get one olineman and wr in fa… theres the offense motherfuckers….. fuck cb….. we got a decent d except olb and dt…. use round 2 and 3 for that and fa…. and rb later if u wanna piss me offf more… i hate these stupid talks… we all know wat we want…… so stop sayin…. oh if we want a DEPTH cb we can find a good one in the second or middle round lol no fuck that losers….. if we get one fa thats it………….IT
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty sure it's an excerpt from "Ulysses"
Man I tried to read that shit, and it just made no sense then either.
Though I have to applaud ramat for trying to give it a new reference in a football discussion column. But I still don’t get the stream-of-consciousness mechanics as displayed by the author.
I kinda lost you halfway through that rant.
But I agree that we don’t need a CB anywhere near as bad as we need a WR, OL and DT. Claiborne is a great player, but there’s others that we need a LOT more than him.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
Agree WR
The rant was a little, well needless to say hard to read. One thing I def agree with is we do need a WR plain and simple. I’m not one for WR and have been dodging it for years but good lord we need to pick a nice young talented WR in this draft. Hopefuly Lloyd stays and with Amendola coming back it would be nice to have a nice young stud at the #2 spot.
Now the oline yes we need help but for the most part I think the players are there lets just hope the coaching/trainers in place can help them. Then again if we trade down and get 2 picks in it’s REALLY hard to pass up on Kalil, but what I do know is that we CANNOT pass up on Blackmon.
Bottom line lets wait until the combine cause right now all we can do is speculate. I’m waiting to see who’s value goes up and who goes down after the combine.
Just a man who loves football
Multiple picks
If they trade with Washington….theres a possibility that Blackmon falls to 6….Unless Cleveland gets pissed and takes him…then we could pick up OT Martin, or G Decastro or Richardson……then maybe Kendall Wright and Lamichael James
by poonjabbers2010 on Jan 25, 2012 1:01 PM CST reply actions
Now that is one of the
absolute best trade proposals I have seen on this Board. Hats off to RAMphetamine. If we were able to take care of our secondary RB needs by snagging Helu and picking up the Skins 1rst, 2nd and 4th for our 1rst pick I would say we go for it. As others have mentioned, there is still a chance that Blackmon could fall to 6th. If not, IMO opinion we grab Reiff. I personally feel the Browns will be drafting Trent Rchardson and not Blackmon assuming they keep the 4th pick. That Hillis scene was awful for the Brown last year. They need to solidify their running game. That being said, there is no guarantee that the Bucs won’t take Blackmon at #5. I don’t buy any of the mocks having the Bucs taking Richardson. Why push Blount to the curb so quickly? Assuming the Rams do make a deal with Washington and nobody else moves in the top 5 I think your draft looks something like this:
1) Indy – Luck
2) Skins – RG3
3) Vikings – Kalil
4) Browns – Richardson
5) Bucs – (This one is tough to predict bu t I will go with either Blackmon or Claiborne)
6) Rams – I would opt for Blackmon if still on the Board or Reiff if he isn’t.
Then I would hope we could go with the following:
Blackmon, Brockers (#33), Boykin (#39) our own Killer Bee’s + Zeitler (#65) or
Reiff, Brockers, Sanu and Zeitler + maybe adding Brewster at center in the 4th round?
New offensive line is Reiff, Dahl, Brewster, Zeitler and Saffold. Re-sign Lloyd, add Helu and package them with your current core starters and that is an offense you can go to war with.
The defense will still have plenty of holes but adding Brockers as a three-Tech would be a huge addition. He had a big game against Bama in the championship. Richardson’s stats were inflated by bouncing that run around left end for his T.D. He didn’t do much when he ran at Brockers.
Get That Fantasy Out Of Your Head
Mike Shanahan is NOT going to be trading Roy Helu ANYTIME soon unless someone is offering something too good to pass up (eg. a 1st or 2nd rd pick). Period.
by redskinsfan909 on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Helu isn't going anywhere
Skins just drafted Helu, and Helu was a steal in the 3rd, and has showed incredible talent so far at the RB spot, especially behind a spotty OL. Helu is part of the skins young core of players that aren’t going to be going anywhere. Not even a 2nd would pry him away. in order for us to get rid of players like Helu,kerrigan,Orakpo,Jarvis Jenkins,etc is if we get offered something we can’t refuse. ( such as multiple high picks, or a high 1st ) You don’t trade away a young, proven commodity like Helu for an unknown such as a 2nd rounder or even low 1st. As those picks are never guaranteed. Hankerson and Helu are really going to make strides the next two seasons, and hopefully we will have a QB in place so we can start to build around our core. Can’t forget Free Agency, but instead of worrying about what players from other teams we can get, we need to try and keep our own players. When players hit F.A, there’s a reason the team that drafted them is letting them walk, so once you have a proven player that you drafted, you keep them and let them grow in your system, and build around them to help. A lot of people expect stuff to happen overnight, but after all the years of horrible decisions, it takes more than 2 seasons to rebuild. The last thing we need is to keep shuffling coaches in and out.
by William Mitchem on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
What You Guys Don't Understand Is...
Mike Shanahan is not going to overpay for your 2nd overall pick. If the lowly Rams’ don’t want to take what he offers, he’s just going to trade down, that’s his style. He would probably love to have RGIII, but isn’t gonna go start popping anti-depressants if he can’t get him. Shanahan will have NO problem trading down and getting an extra pick along with either David DeCastro, Luke Kuechly or Reilly Reiff. To expect Shanahan to get robbed of draft picks by the Rams for their 2nd overall pick is a bit unrealistic.
What YOU don't understand is:
The Rams now have a coach/Owner/front office that knows football. I don’t think any of those designations belong to the Redskins. I am fairly confident that finally the Rams will make a good draft and will take advantage of the players that they get, unlike some past years.
what is interesting to me is how highly you view the organization
every season it’s something other than football that is being said about the Skins. If it’s not Snyder’s stranglehold over the decision making that’s killing the Skins, it’s Albert Haynesworth, his $100mil contract, and his child-like battle with the head coach. If it’s not that, it’s how you mortgaged your draft picks on Donovan McNabb, who you benched for Rex Grossman, and then promptly traded away. If it’s not that, it’s how the nepotism on the coaching staff is leading to bad decisions overall, i.e. going into the season touting John Beck as the guy, and then giving him all of 3 games to prove he’s not, then go back to Rex Grossman. Don’t pretend like you don’t need a QB playa, because much like the Dolphins, you haven’t had a descent one in forever, and it’s truly killing any chance you have of going to the playoffs.
Nice draft last year, I’ll give you that. Kerrigan was a stud, and Helu looks like he’ll be serviceable. If you’re not willing to trade him, though (unless it’s for a 1st, which is an f’n joke) then what are you going to do with your other 3 RB’s? I’m assuming it’ll be mass confusion, just like the QB decision. But hey, having 4 RB’s provides you awesome depth that you don’t have at other positions
And I’ll comment on something you stated earlier about Shanny’s seat not being warm, ’it’s cool.’ The Skins regressed last year……..sure you made better picks, and have young talent to build around, but 5 wins (11 in 2 seasons) is not what either Shanahan was brought in for. YOU DO NEED RG3, because anything short of a Cam Newton-like rookie performance for the Skins means that you’ll be back in the gutter of the NFC East, and further questioning when Shanny is going to pull out some of his Denver, I have one of the greatest QB’s of all time, magic. Not likely, but go ahead and trade down!
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