Could Cleveland Trade with Indianapolis for the First Overall Pick in the 2012 Draft?

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even stepped on the field in the NFL. I don’t see anything special about him not one thing he played against cup cake schools that would make any QB look good there were a few exception’s and they lost during those games and he didn’t do anything special to stand out. I see hype and that’s it he is an unproven QB who has yet to play one game in the NFL could he succeed sure but could he flop absolutely and frankly I think RG 3 is better then him, as for indy it could be possible but it’s still way to early to press the panic button.

Did an interestingpost on a possible trade with Dallas. I think you are right not to assume that Indy will just take Luck without considering other possibilities. Maybe Luck would not want to go to Indy if he perceives the organization to be too chaotic or indecisive; indecisive being the better choice of words. Great post! Rec*

Luck has great media hype but what else???????

Browns arent trading. They wanted extra picks y would they give up a fortune to move up for a guy who might fall to them two spots later? Miami wnt, I dnt think a new coach wants to start of his time there by makin a risky move(besides, matt flynn). Shanny and the skins might, but shanny wants to win now and that pressure might make him reluctant to trade for a rookie. We could very well get stuck at two

but i do believe the Rams best trading option will be Washington because they really need a QB, the Browns can just stay @ 4 and get a playmaker and give McCoy another year, Miami most likely will go with Matt Flynn cause he know the system with Philbin, but I dont see the Redskins going another year with Grossman so they will be the best trade partner IMO

RGIII’s pro day and draft workouts. Hopefully, he’ll impress even more with his interviews and workouts to make teams salivate over getting him.

If I were in the Indy FO; I would give considerable thought to trading the number 1 overall pick. The compensation: A combination of draft picks and young talent, would be more beneficial IMO. Miami would be an interesting partner b/c of their young talent: Dallas could be a surprise trading partner as well. What about San Francisco: Kyle Williams, Donte Whitner, and Ahmad Brooks to name a few. A couple of players and draft picks for 2012 and 2013 could get The Niners in the Luck bidding process.

What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Can’t football fans be bothered to watch even one episode of Sportscenter now and again? Luck is a transcendent talent at the most important position in the game, and taking him is something that should be self-evident to anyone who can identify a football in only three guesses. The Colts play football for a living, so they know this, and have already confirmed, when they didn’t at all need to bother, that they will most definitely be taking Luck.

But if you were to consider this argument as sane, you’re first forgetting that there are 30 other teams in the NFL besides the Colts and Browns. NFL people say the bidding for the Luck pick would begin at three to four first round picks, not end at the Browns offering three and no one bothering to try and outbid them, and then also several other 2nd and 3rd round picks and possibly players. I’ve actually seen this kind of speculation from lots of other fans online, who all think their team is the only one who could use a QB and a trade to get Luck is solely theirs for the taking.

Second, this is not baseball, Manning’s contract is not a burden to Indianapolis because it exists, but because it counts against their salary cap. The Browns paying it does not fix this. Additionally, if you’re worried about Manning and Luck being too much money, than how in the world do you justify Manning and Matt “about to get his payday” Flynn? Rookie scale for a future first ballot Hall of Famer, is a much better value, than open market bidding for a backup QB who basically had a good game. Indeed, it is the NFL’s biggest suckers who will be bidding on Matt Flynn, for Irsay to give up Luck for Flynn would not just be idiotic on his part, but legally, grounds for him to be committed to a psychiatric center for his own safety and the safety of others.

And finally, this argument that the Colts have other “needs” was thoroughly debunked during the regular season and laughed out of most everyone who said it. This Colts team with an elite quarterback, Peyton Manning, and all these holes, is a Super Bowl contender. This Colts team without Manning and all these holes finished dead last. Seems pretty obvious there’s one position that matters more than every other position and that’s the quarterback. So would you rather try to fill all those holes with a handful of rookies at other positions, half of whom will not work out, and if you do a good job end up looking like the Seattle Seahawks of the AFC? Or would you rather take Luck and be a Super Bowl contender until 2025?

Everyone should be aware by now the Colts have made it clear they are not interested in trading their first pick, and should also be aware there’s nothing in the combine that will cause them to devalue Luck or over-value Griffin. Griffin’s value will continue to sink the further away we get from the college season because he’s less conflatable with Luck. That’s the end of the story.