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2012 NFL Mock Draft: In Which The Rams Pull Off The Trade

The latest and greatest 2012 NFL Mock Draft from SB Nation is out today. This edition is designed to reflect a few predictions I think will happen in Mobile, AL, at the Senior Bowl this week, and I fully expect the whole thing to look a lot different this time next week. As for the St. Louis Rams, I finally broke down and pulled the trigger on a trade. I'm not 100 percent convinced that's going to happen, but it just seemed off to have a player like Robert Griffin III being drafted any lower than second, especially with the new salary scale for rookies.

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Let's review the mock and the big trade after the jump.

Star-divide

I had the Browns and Rams swinging a deal for the second pick in the draft. Cleveland gave St. Louis their two first-round picks, which would be an absolute dream come true for St. Louis.

With the fourth pick, the Rams draft Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State.

There's a new regime in St. Louis, and they won't be willing to make the same mistakes of the last one, thinking that Sam Bradford can get by with a group of receivers led by Danny Amendola, the poor man's Wes Welker. Everyone keeps pointing out that Blackmon does not compare to last year's top receivers, but he has loads of talent.

This is about as no-brainer as it gets. With the second pick, the Rams have a tough choice to make between Matt Kalil and Blackmon. With the fourth pick and Kalil off the board, the Rams take the top receiver available in this year's draft.

They can try to pick up a tackle with the second pick, #22, acquired in the deal. And the pick is Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.

How badly could the Falcons use this pick? Julio Jones is a very good player, but this season was evidence that they just weren't ready to swap all those picks for him. Cleveland will take it ... and give it to the Rams for RG3. New head coach Jeff Fisher made it pretty clear that the Rams will protect quarterback Sam Bradford, and they'll need an upgrade over Jason Smith to do so.

Does Martin fall this far? Probably not, but once we get a better sense of the pass rushers available, I think the picks in between will look a lot different, causing players like Martin to fall a little.

Having the #22 pick would give the Rams plenty of options. I wouldn't rule out a cornerback here, maybe someone like South Carolina's Stephon Gilmore. With Chris Long and Robert Quinn, edge rushers wouldn't be a priority.

There's also the possibility of taking a running back. In fact, I wouldn't rule out the chances of taking Trent Richardson, though it's unlikely, with the fourth pick, and finding another receiver with a later pick in the first round. All of which assumes a trade down.

Plenty could happen between now and then. We'll have updates from the Senior Bowl all week. And for more on the draft's first big event, check out this primer from SB Nation.

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I wish we could get Blackmon and Martin...

But I don’t see that happening. Maybe Blackmon and OT Adams. I would be happy with a cb at 22 also. Boudreau has been known to get the best out of “okay” lineman. Should be interesting

by Rcoon1307 on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'd rather we get Claiborne then Jeffrey

Trent will most certainly get considered by this FO and by god there should be a riot if he’s taken in the top 10.

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by Infemous on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

He didn't say anything about drafting Jeffrey did he?

I would love to have Claiborne but he isn’t falling out of the top 8 and we aren’t taking a cb that high

by Rcoon1307 on Jan 23, 2012 11:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think the combine is going to hurt Blackmon.

I just don’t see him as being that far above other receivers in this draft. I’m an Okie and I hope I’m wrong and would love to see both state schools represented. The main issue I have is it seems like there are three tackles and then everyone else. The receiver class looks really deep.

by David5264 on Jan 23, 2012 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Not really. It's Blackmon and everyone else basically

Jefferey used to be in that discussion, we’ll see what he does in the combine. All the other WR seem to be either raw or just flawed

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by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think the only thing holding Floyd back from that discussion

is the 3 DUI’s.

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

I’d love to get him and Martin or Blackmon and Martin though

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not opposed to going WR

with our first two picks, as long as they’re BPA

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Keep in mind Jeffery played in the SEC with a crappy QB...

If you can't laugh at yourself... laugh at someone else

by x Nightwing x on Jan 23, 2012 2:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He did last year too (in a stronger SEC)

and put up unbelievable numbers. He just had a mediocre year, can’t really defend it.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

I would love to get Kalil and then try getting Sanu with our 2nd rd pick

by Rcoon1307 on Jan 23, 2012 11:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I would rather have one of the premier O-lineman

with that pick at 4 and hope for Floyd at 22. I just think that Jeffery, Floyd, and Sanu are more likely to fall than the top tier O-linemen.

by CaliRamMan on Jan 23, 2012 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

I think Floyd has the most potential out of everyone in this class to become a #1 WR, and Alshon Jeffery’s a hell of a player himself. The gap between Jeffery and Blackmon isn’t very far at all. I think it’s a no brainer you wait for the 2nd guy in the early 20s or so opposed to the 1st with a top 5 pick..

The team is so far away...yet so close...

by ramswo85 on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

For once I agree! But its all depending on what minnesota does, I mean they would have to be high on blackmon for us to land kalil! Id rather have the best tackle & floyd! Nt sanu but floyd or jeffrey! Bt my question is if infact we do give up our number 2 pick we’d only aquire there 22nd!? No 2nd or 3rd rounder?

by Boy Yottic on Jan 23, 2012 1:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That would be determined by the teams negotiating.

I’d need at least one more pick, maybe next years 1st or 2nd and this years 3rd/4th rndr to trade with CLE. They’re not moving that far up, so I’d expect a little less, but would’nt want to settle on a 2 pick compensation.

by RamsFan1979 on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not high on Floyd

From the limited tape of seen of him, I think he’d be another WR that won’t get separation for us to add to a collection of receivers that can’t get separation. I do like his size and red zone ability but I’d rather add size and catching ability at the TE position and get more athleticism out of the WR positions. I really hope we don’t use a 1st round or high 2nd round pick on him with so many other talented players that fit a need better than he does.

All things being equal I’d go after the plethora of talent coming out of the SEC if we decide Blackmon isn’t worthy of a top 5 pick.

I’d also be more apt to gamble that one of the O linemen will drop into the 2nd round and not use a high first round pick for that position. It just seems like there is enough talent at OL that the drop off between the 1st and 2nd selections isn’t all that dramatic.

by Sggladden on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

floyd has highlight tapes dating back to his freshmen season and have you saw his latest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2ZSkKwdE9I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

by kemo.rose on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Top OT's usually fly off the board quickly, and there are only 3-4 OT's that can play the left side, so that is a premium we must pay.

AZ, Miamii, Minn, and a few other teams would love to upgrade the blind side, We can find a real good WR in FA, yeah we’d have to pay but someone like Bowe, Garcon, Jackson, or DeSean would fill our need and pair up nice with Lloyd with a more immediate impact.

by RamsFan1979 on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

We might not wait for the 22nd pick either.

It’s possible we trade up with the 22nd pick. I cant think of any scenarios off the top of my head but the opportunity to draft two top talents in the first, plus receiving late round picks from the Browns makes some of our picks tradable. and also we can get some great picks trading off the 33rd pick as well to recover from moving up in the first

by Lexxi on Jan 23, 2012 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

Was just going to say

This would be a perfect first round. And remember the 1st pick in round two. You grab a DT (Jerel Worthy) or an OLB at 33, you’re on to something. You’ve solved 3 of your biggest needs with really good players in two rounds. I doubt Martin would be there, but I sure hope so.

by RamHock on Jan 23, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Blackmon and Adams would be more probable

And I would consider that a good first round.

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

i was all for blackmon

But know i am all for drafting Kahlil 2nd and getting one of the other top wrs in the 2nd round cause i can not imagine all of the good wrs going in the first round

by T.J.ramsfan17 on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

did you guys see

a certain shitty “analyst” being called a douchebag by T-Sizzle?

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM CST reply actions  

I can't even begin to thank you, Serg

For bringing that level of joy into my day

by DCRamFan on Jan 23, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You're welcome. I was so happy watching it.

Ball So Hard University will teach you to keep douchebags in line

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Take Blackmon

Llyod may get unreal money thrown at him. So we would be back to:

Gibson
Blackmon (rookie)
DX
Danny A
Salas
Petis
This spot won in training camp

by fearsomefoursum on Jan 23, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

This..

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yup

one plays for the preseason, the other for hospital bills.

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

+1000! Hahahahaha (pause) aahahhahahah ah man now that was hilarious broram!

by Boy Yottic on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Gibson wont make it through training camp.

Accept that. What is the love with Gibson and DX? Gibson can not catch and/or get seperation, DX is from Mizzou. Get over them! Jesh. I think half the problem is Ram fans do not know what a WR looks like. Everyone here thinks Lloyd is a #1 receiver. Lloyd is a #2 WR.

Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (3min. 8 sec)

by Da Rookie on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

If Lloyd puts up numbers like he did with the Broncos,

he could be my #1 all day.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Rams need a big WR

That can have a threat in the redzone. Free agents Vincent Jackkson(SD) or Colston(NO) would make a world of difference. + side: If you sign one of them before the draft everyone will want to move up to the Rams pick #2 overall because we could go any direction. Also do NOT forget the Rams have the first pick in day/ round 2. Excellent trading position for both.

Just when Bugs thinks he's done with him, the Tasmanian Devil asks: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxEtR0chhA (3min. 8 sec)

by Da Rookie on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd prefer Colston over all,

but he’s probably franchise tagged over Carl Nicks.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he's going to get a ton of money thrown at him either

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he will either,

but I’m not sure what he’s looking for in a #1 lol. If someone put up 1400+ yards and 10+ touchdowns and 70+ first down grabs all while drawing a double team, wouldn’t he easily be considered your #1?

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

yessir, yes he would

keeping Lloyd and drafting a good receiver in the second (Kendall Wright?) would be great.

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed,

Kendall Wright as a deep threat, you can even grab Sanu in the third since he has a pretty high ceiling as the big guy Rookie wants. But I’m okay with this scenario as well. Now if Minnesota took Blackmon over Kalil crosses fingers then that would be a dream come true. Get Kalil and a first rounder receiver like Floyd.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

what about Kalil at 4 DeCastro at 22 and Konz at 33?

best o-line ever lol it would never happen, but I can dream

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

THAT would be the dream come true...

Best rookie trio since sliced bread!

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't care who the receivers are if your o-line goes

Kalil-Decastro-Konz-Dahl-Saffold

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Gibson will make it through training camp

Not because he’s great but because we have no other options.

I think this is likely the year we move on from DX which is a shame because he is talented enough but we just can’t count on him to play week in and out.

I think it is beyond obvious the Rams need a legitimate featured WR. If Blackmon has the potential to be that it would be real hard to pass on him. I think we may well try and go the FA route since we are so desperate and we don’t want to kill our cash crop of trades for the RG3 sweepstakes.

by Sggladden on Jan 23, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Gibson, DX, and Pettis are gone. Clayton should be added.

by OakCityRam on Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

What's nice is.

jeff fisher is sending a message to the other players, no job on this team is safe except a hand full of players. with fishers name, we should get some gooood free agents that will help out right away. no more drafting soft players that can’t take it. fisher will draft tough guys or you won’t be around. listen up jason smith.

by crazy mike on Jan 23, 2012 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

how about that weather?

it’s actually above 0!

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW, I posted that commercial with Rams players in the FanShots

but the damn thing wouldn’t post right, then 2 of them posted, so someone remove the first one…please?
If you missed the commercial, it’s awesome

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

You should be able to do it if you go to Edit FanShots or something.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I found a delete button...I guess it exists

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Hehe

only for ones you’ve posted.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad :( I'd be deleting all of Doug's posts :)

just kidding of course.

or am I?

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

pshh, of course you’re not.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It sure is fun to have admin rights

"Doin' blow off a strippers nipple" -VanRam
Hit me up on Facebook and Twitter. You know you want to.

by Eric Nagel on Jan 23, 2012 2:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah it is. I'm have them on building the dam. One day I'll have them here *cough cough*

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 3:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The Rams Will Not........

be receiving the Browns two first rounders. All you will get is #4 because cleveland can sell you something other teams cant….. A Guarantee. Guarantee that you will either get Blackmon or Kalil (Whoever Minnesota doesnt take.) There may be some 3’s and 5’s involved, but get number 22 out of your mind

by chrismeglan on Jan 23, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

Have to disagree

Washington will be in the mix, that will drive them to put up or lose out.

by OakCityRam on Jan 23, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Dennis Greene

Came out and said they’ve got their QB selected and ‘fans will be elated.’ I don’t think they’re getting Flynn, so my guess is they’re poised to trade up, and hopefully make a typical Skins offseason move

by DCRamFan on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Flynn

Matt Flynn will most likely join Philbin in Miami. And still Cleveland can offer more than Washington and keep 22, even if it includes multiple later picks. Those are expendable

by chrismeglan on Jan 23, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

did you not see what ATL gave up? what about that Ricky Williams trade?

they’ll fork out a ton for our pick, trust me. It’ll be more like 2 first rounders, 2nd round and a 4th probably.

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would we just swap picks and go down 2 spots?

That literally makes zero sense. What are you trying to pull here?

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's saying

we would get additional picks, but not the other 1st rounder, more like a 1st and (his words) a 3 and a 5.

In which case, I would rather keep our pick.

by betterthanzero on Jan 23, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

We would absolutely get two first rounders.

If Atlanta can do it for the 9th pick for Julio Jones then there is no reason the Browns wouldn’t do it for the 2nd pick and a franchise QB lol.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Jan 23, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

if the browns

aren’t willing to give up their two first rounders, then they don’t want rgIII that bad, the skins on the other hand do, and will offer more then just a 3rd and 5th. please

by ECURam87 on Jan 23, 2012 2:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Disagree about the 3s and 5s

but Clevelands #4 and #36 is still better than anyone else’s 1st and 2nd round picks that want to trade.

by jmo53 on Jan 23, 2012 5:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

This draft has

the best tackle prospect since Jake Long, the best Center prospect since Nick Mangold, and the best guard prospect since Steve Hutchinson (there’s probably someone more recent than that but I can’t remember at the moment). I want at least one of them.

Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus

by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

As far as the offer for

our 2nd pick, I think Ram fans are kidding themselves if they use the Falcons trade of last year as a benchmark. First of all the Falcons were highly criticized right after the trade and that will only increase as April 26th approaches. The entire prospective bidding war for our #2 and RG3 hinges on what Cleveland wants to do. All you need to do is review where the Rams, Browns and Redskins are drafting to confirm that notion. As a reminder, here are the slots in the first three rounds:

Rams = #2, #33 and #66
Browns = #4, #22, #37 and #68
Redskins = #6,#39 and #70

By virtue of the Browns holding draft picks two selections ahead of the Redskins in addition to having the #22 pick, they hold all the cards as a potential trade partner if they are interested. Unfortunately, the Browns don’t even need to offer up the 22nd pick to outbid the Redskins from a slotting perspective. The only way the Redskins can outbid the Browns is if both teams are determined to get RG3 is to offer the Rams a Rickey Williams type of deal, include high 2013 draft picks or include a player(s). Otherwise, the Browns have them by the throat.

For those who are dissing Blackmon you are simply overlooking one crucial fact……“production.” You remind me of so many of these self-imposed super talent evaluators that get caught up in trying to outsmart everyone else with wise guy selections that you are missing the real picture. The “eye test.” Blackmon gets seperation plain and aggressively attacks the ball. He looks to me like a cross between T.O. and Andre Rison. The guy is a player plain and simple. I can just hear it now that once the combine hits there will be yells for Hilton and others who kill it while Blackmon is unjustly villified. Remember this, some players are total “eye candy,” others are tremendous “practice players,” while others like Blackmon are simply game players. It is a shame more talent evaluators still can’t figure out the distinctions between the three. That is why teams end up drafting plyers like Jamarcus Russell and Jason Smith.

Personally I like Kalil, DeCastro and Konz as much as the next guy like buckeyfan55 is leading us towards. However, not one of them is remotely viable for the Rams based on our overwhelming needs unless we pick up the Browns #22 pick and draft Konz in that spot. The Vikings IMO opinion are definately taking Kalil @3 and DeCastro will be long gone at #22. Where I will disagree with buckeyfan55 till the cows come home is not in his assessment of these O-Line players but rather in the absolute dire needs of the Rams needing quantity over O-Line quality in this draft. By virtue of the Vikings beating the Redskins and RG3’s late season heroics, a perfect storm has provided the Rams with the bargaining leverage to solve 3 or 4 needs in the draft rather than just one assuming they keep the #2 pick.

So, unless our next GM has the ability to make 2 or 3 trades in the 1rst round, we are drafting at #2 (I sure as hell hope not), #4 (I sure as hell hope so with at a minimum either #22 or #37 and other picks coming along with it) or #6(Plus #39 and other picks). So trade ideas should be for #4, #6 or compounding trades going down at each interval.

by RamTeaPartier on Jan 23, 2012 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

I personally think the Browns covet Blackmon, and will use their #4 pick to take him.

They’ll let a QB desperate team like Washington make a run at our pick, possibly helping run up the cost of the pick by saying they want it themselves.
I do think that we are counting out a few teams that could make a hard run at our pick. Don’t discount a move by the Cowboys, Ravens, and Jacksonville (if they have misgivings about Gabbert?)

by Douglas M on Jan 23, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Cowboys is a good one

Because I think after this season they realize that Romo can’t lead them to the promise land. Jerry Jones has also been known to make a deal in order to better his franchise and get playmakers on offense. They could make a run at RG3 and I could see us getting Floyd with their pick, if this happens..

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 23, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Decastro

I made a fanpost about this. What do you think we could get in compensation from the Cowboys?

by jmo53 on Jan 23, 2012 5:41 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Their first this and next year

Plus their seconds this and next year and maybe a player of another pick like their third this year.

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 23, 2012 6:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I find this statement very agreeable.

They have three offensive needs IMO, RB, LT & WR. They need more supporting cast for McCoy, very similiar to our need; more playmakers.

by RamsFan1979 on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

two things:

one: Blackmon put up those numbers because of the offense he played in, college production doesn’t hold a lot of weight in terms of the draft.
two: I don’t know how you got that I think quantity on the o-line is better than quality. Those players are the definition of quality. I don’t in any way think that having quantity over quality is better.

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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you're way too myopic with this

There are other trade partners we could go with besides the 2 you mentioned, but these have been pointed out and are very viable options given the QB [less] talent on these teams.

BTW, your argument, ‘production in college’ is very laughable. There is 0, none, nada connection between the two, period. Let me throw out some names for you who had great production in college and well, just flopped in the NFL: Ron Dayne, Ike Hilliard, Kevin Dyson, Peter Warrick, Charles Rogers, Curtis Enis… I could go on. These players had great college careers with outstanding college production, but failed miserably in the NFL. It can be used as an indicator, but as you pointed out, without good scouts who can recognize where they fit in, it’s a shame they were selected so high. I’m not saying Blackmon is going to be a flop, just don’t let his production fool you into thinking that.

by RamsFan1979 on Jan 24, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

My point was intended to imply

you prefer “quality” over “quantity.” My point is I would prefer to have Blackmon + 2 or 3 other starters assuming we don’t screwup the draft over Kalil and I like Kalil. In addition, I think the Rams have so many holes they need to go quantity over quality or the turnaround will take a lot longer. Jake Long is a stud but he isn’t turning aroudn that Dolphins team anytime soon.

by RamTeaPartier on Jan 23, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

oh okay I disagree with your approach,

but I misunderstood the whole quality over quantity thing.

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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

If Blackmon was a one year wonder

then I would give your view on college production more credence. But he simply did it over and over again for multiple years. On the contrary, I think you can argue that mitigating factors can hamper a good NFL prospects college production. Case in point is Alshon Jeffrey. I think he is a top 15-20 pick but I’m not sure he will go that high because his production got hurt by that whack job Garcia and his successor.

by RamTeaPartier on Jan 23, 2012 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

If the Browns don't trade up for RG3

don’t be surprised if they trade down. As bad as the Rams receivers were in 2011 the Jags have the worst set of receivers in the NFL. You may see the Browns drop to #7 and swap picks with the Jags so they can get their #1 receiver.

by RamTeaPartier on Jan 23, 2012 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

What if...

for some reason RG3 has some good workouts before the draft and the Colts take him first? If you are JF, would you still trade the pick or take Luck and keep him?

by RAMbunctious on Jan 23, 2012 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

yet again, people need to read

this story by Mike, this is seriously the reason why Sam will not be traded.
So to answer, we’ll trade the pick…and if Luck somehow falls to 2, we’ll get a lot more for him in the trade. But the colts already said they plan on taking Luck, so that won’t happen.

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Jan 23, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

This is exactly why im so excited about the change in the organization. That staff had no plan or a bison of what they wanted accomplish. No disrespect to pettis or salas or even kendricks but I would have bit the bullet and held out on offense and rolled with the receivers which were already on the roster because they were the only who produced anyways. None of the WR we drafted last year were a vast improvement.
With the tons of late projected talented defensive players which were in the draft last year I would have just improve my defense and feed of them and the 2010 season hype coming into the season (mason foster, pea, Marvin Austin) and also draft one of those late round talented backs (Hunter or Rodgers) which we basically traded for players who is not even on the roster anymore and those picks would have filled holes.
I’m sure they could have looked ahead and saw how deep the 2012 WR class would be and just take the change on that because now pettis maybe a forgotten man by time the training camp begin. Damn I hated the front office. Drafted Fendi to be a project only to be release for a practice squad TE which barely even played. Let go a talent young linebacker for some1 old which was eventually cut. They just erk my nerves. I wanted spags to have one more year but I’m sorry they had to go

by kemo.rose on Jan 24, 2012 12:31 AM CST reply actions  

NO MORE RECEIVERS.....ASSHOLES!

I’m sooooo sick of you douchebags wanting a WR when we have no freaking line…….offensive or defensive (nothing here at all besides MLB)

My god you have to be a sick mf if you would even consider a receiver! Center, Guard, Tackle, Corner, D – line,

Receiver ………………….LAST!

P.S. GET DOMINIQUE BACK….JUST FOR KICKS

by Drew Spinoso on Jan 24, 2012 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

Nice little rant..

Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware

by RG31 on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though

I know this is not going to ever happen, but what if we got Blackmon in the first Kalil in the second and Trent Rich in the third.

(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams

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