Random Ramsdom, 1/17: Hue Jackson In The Spotlight

by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 17, 2012 6:58 AM CST in St. Louis Rams news

It's a mostly straight line from the end of the season to where the St. Louis Rams are now, a nice, clean narrative from there to here. Spagnuolo is out, Fisher is in and he's starting to hire his coaching staff. Gregg Williams is on board as the defensive coordinator. The offensive coordinator is still up in the air, said to be between Brian Schottenheimer and Hue Jackson, a late entrant into the race. Jackson's the focus of Random Ramsdom today, since that's the big story right now.

We'll have live coverage of the 1 p.m. news conference at Rams Park to introduce Fisher today. Be sure to follow us on Twitter @TurfShowTimes for live updates from the event.

Now, five links about Hue Jackson, from his hiring to the fallout over his firing.

Hue Jackson's time in Oakland has arrived - A year ago, Oakland promoted Jackson to head coach from offensive coordinator. As the OC, he doubled the team's scoring output. Al Davis himself tabbed Jackson for the job, which was probably more kiss of death than anything else. Injuries hurt the Raiders early on, putting Darren McFadden on the sidelines after a really good start and losing Jason Campbell to set up the Palmer disaster.

Oakland Raiders Thoughts: Is It Time To Turn The Page On Hue Jackson? - A day before Hue Jackson was fired, the guys over at Silver and Black Pride asked the question of whether or not the Raiders should move on from Jackson. The team lacked discipline, and Jackson had too much power, e.g. the Carson Palmer trade.

Hue Jackson says he didn't make the Palmer trade - On Monday, Hue Jackson told a San Francisco radio station that he didn't make the Palmer trade. The Palmer trade, whether he made it or not, became his signature move in Oakland. It looked an awful lot like a classic case of a new head coach getting too much power. Either way, as a coordinator, he won't be making roster moves.

Jackson's firing a product of Raiders' dysfunction - Mike Silver at Yahoo has been a big defender of Hue Jackson through his firing in Oakland. Silver claimed, with some controversial statements, that Jackson was tossed because Mark Davis felt threatened by his head coach, linking it to some Oedipal Complex.

Head Coaching Still In Jackson's Future - Here's one conundrum with hiring Hue Jackson: he could be plucked out of St. Louis for a head coaching job if he's successful in his first year. We'll see how that goes. Whoever the Rams hire as OC has his work cut out for him.

Would you rather see Jackson or Schottenheimer as the Rams' next offensive coordinator? Be sure to register your opinion in our poll on the matter.

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Hue/Schotty

Def take Hue Jackson over Schotty..I live in the northeast and have seen a lot of Jets games over Schotty’s time in NY..and although I haven’t seen as much of a body of work from jackson this year..I’ve seen enough of Schotty to favor a turn in another direction..Schotty’s flaws have been well documented here by the people from GGN and generally have been spot on..Jackson seemed to have had Campbell on track and had it goin good while Mcfadden was healthy..With what we have i.e Bradford,Jackson, and whatever we can add through the draft..there will be weapons here to work with..Hue or as yet to be interviewed OC candidate over Schotty..PLEASE

by jerzymook on Jan 17, 2012 7:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Only worry about either is they could leave for HC opportunity...

Sam doesn’t need to be passed around like a dubie at a grateful dead concert

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by VTramsFan on Jan 17, 2012 7:41 AM CST reply actions

but..

If it means passing on Schotty its worth a one year rental believe me..Schotty would ruin Bradford

by jerzymook on Jan 17, 2012 7:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

no I agree 110% !

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by VTramsFan on Jan 17, 2012 7:49 AM CST up reply actions

Hue!

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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 17, 2012 7:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

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by FailureDrill on Jan 17, 2012 7:57 AM CST via Android app up reply actions

Jackson >> Schotty

by durst on Jan 17, 2012 8:00 AM CST reply actions

Dont think Hue would be a HC after next year unless we win the Super Bowl

He’ll need at least two years to get people to “forget” the Palmer trade

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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 17, 2012 8:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions

good point!

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by VTramsFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions

Yes

but according to interviews with him he was not the one who pulled the trigger or wanted that trade.

by RWRAMS28 on Jan 17, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions

People will still be wary to put him in power in

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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 17, 2012 9:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

My opinion, and I still think he wanted that trade

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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

I Now Firmly Believe

That the Raiders are more dysfunctional than I previously thought (if that’s possible).

From wikipedia, listen to the circumstances that led to his firing:

In 2010, under Jackson’s guidance (OC), the Raiders offense finished fourth in the AFC and sixth in the NFL in scoring (25.6 points per game) also finished fifth in the AFC and 10th in the NFL in total offense (354.6 yards per game) and second in the NFL and AFC in rushing (155.9 yards per game).

The Raiders more than doubled their scoring output from the previous year, totaling 410 points. Under Jackson’s offense, RB Darren McFadden finished the season with 1,157 yards rushing on 223 carries for a 5.2 average YPC and 7 rushing touchdowns.

McFadden also had 47 receptions for 507 yards and 3 touchdowns. His total numbers were 1,664 total yards and 10 total touchdowns for the 2010 NFL season. Making McFadden the NFL’s 5th leader in total yards from scrimmage for the 2010 season.

After the 2010 season Hue Jackson was named Oakland Raiders head coach in 2011, succeeding Tom Cable.

Jackson was fired by the Oakland Raiders on January 10, 2012 after one season as head coach curiously after Reggie McKenzie assumed the position of General Manager, which was held by the late General Partner and Owner Al Davis. In his lone season as head coach, the Raiders finished the season with a record of 8-8 and missed the playoffs, after starting the season 7-4.

Yea, it was justified… NOT. I also heard they had a boatload of injuries!

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by VTramsFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 AM CST reply actions

And that despite what he cost

Palmer is a better qb for them than Campbell

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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

HEY!

long time reader, first time commenter, big fan of this website though.

by iplaythedrums on Jan 17, 2012 8:45 AM CST reply actions

nice to hear from you!

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by VTramsFan on Jan 17, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions

The thing that rubbed me wrong regarding his tenure as HC of the Raiders was his perceived lack of accountability.

Seemed like he was more than happy to roll his own players and staff under the bus to save his own hide for the disappointing second half of the season there. He’s the complete opposite of Spags. It also doesn’t look positive that he’s denying involvement for the Carson Palmer trade, whether he pulled the trigger on it or not. He’s HC, so you can’t tell me he didn’t have some say so on the decision. I do however think Jackson got a bum deal when he was fired in Oakland, andI think he’s a better choice at OC than Schotty will be. I have a feeling we’re going to get more of the same ’ol sorry Rams offense with Schottenheimer at the helm.

by Da Rams! on Jan 17, 2012 9:45 AM CST reply actions

So did

Cable. He had the ship righted and got the ax because Hue was Al’s guy. Now that Al is gone Hue is not Mark’s guy. It’s that simple in Oakland. It’s all about someone wanting to have the power.

by RWRAMS28 on Jan 17, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions

What worries me about Schottenheimer.

I’m not an expert on his performance and haven’t watch many Jets games, but it sounds like he has difficulty utilizing the strengths of the offense. Also, he has problems adjusting or making changes during the game when defenses adjust to his offensive game plan. This is exactly what we saw with Spags and McDaniels last season. I don’t want to see it again in 2012.

by Da Rams! on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions