The Jeff Fisher Hire Wasn't Just a Hire; It Was A Statement
by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM CST
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PrintFor a team that's won just 15 games in the last five years, the St. Louis Rams seem to have been awfully close to relevance. A week 17 playoff play-in. A popular pick to win the NFC West before the 2011 season. We've been on the precipice.
When Stan Kroenke took over the team, it was a move from concern for financial readiness to market and competitive dominance - a move well explicated by Bryan Burwell on Wednesday. With that move came a need to make a statement to the competition that the Rams are no longer a joke of a franchise.
We're no longer a team that's searching for a post-GSOT identity. We're not led at the top by a reluctance to pull the trigger on big moves, something that people repeatedly criticized ex-GM Billy Devaney for. Regardless of whether or not you "like" the hire, no one can argue that Fisher was the marquee hire here, the most experienced, most respected, most prepared option for teams looking to fill their head coach vacancies. And the Rams got him.
So what should we expect? That's hard to say. Many people will try to suggest that the nature of Fisher's personnel management both in-game and out will apply to the Rams. I'd disagree. He's smart enough to know that you can't smash a square peg into a round circle, and the Rams and his Titans teams just aren't the same shape. There are two things you can expect, though:
- Yelling. Fire. Balls. Emotion. Maybe the one thing that coalesced Rams fans against Steve Spagnuolo, a coach so bereft of emotional displays that the Pope told him to bring it up a notch.
- League-wide respect. Behind the curtain, players, coaches and executives know which teams, which guys are a joke and who's biding their time before taking their looming demotion. That's not the Rams anymore.
We may not make the playoffs next year. Or 2013. There's too much that's going to change for this team between now and the first preseason game of the 2012 season, so it's pretty stupid to predict any win-loss results in the wake of this hiring.
But people are going to pay attention to the Rams. They are going to take us seriously. Teams are going to respect us.
And if that's the only thing Jeff Fisher brings to the Rams, then that's a hell of a step in the right direction.
(UPDATE: This headline shows the statement was received from local media. That was quick...)
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great post and rec'd.
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"Hell was Mark Levoir even in camp? Who is Mark Levoir? Who am I? Wtf is going on?"
- Bralidore
thanks homie
but credit the brass for getting it done.
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
I've got goosebumps.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
best day of this terrible season. a new beginning a new hope. i want to go to a mountain top and yell FREEDOM lol
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
Best post...
This is the best post I have read on here in quite some time. 3k, you hit it on the head. The identity that we have lacked will now be displayed. Not as a powerhouse but, as a team not to be taken lightly, the St. Louis rams are here to stay and we will welcome any opponent that takes the field against us. Side note, Courtland Finnegan just said on 101 he would be willing to come here. I will take a plate of nasty, with a side of punch Andre Johnson in the mouth!
91 For life!
by Ramrocker on Jan 13, 2012 2:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think Finnegan's comments
were indicative of the power of this hire. Big momentum move. Going to be interesting to see how this franchise runs into draft season.
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Right on the money!
For all the negatives with Fisher, we know what we’ll be getting. That, to me, is better than again treading into the unknown and hoping for success. The team will have a definable identity, and the Rams fans now know that Stan is committed to building a quality product. We should all be excited!
It will be interesting to see how quickly things progress now.
I read in one of the many posts during the waiting game that Fisher already had his Assistants lined up. How quick will they move on a GM now? Does it narrow the candidates because they have to answer to Fisher, or expand the field so they can work with him? There is still a lot to be played out, but with the biggest piece of the puzzle in place, it should start happening fairly quickly now.
*swiped for "Words With Friends" use later on
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"Hell was Mark Levoir even in camp? Who is Mark Levoir? Who am I? Wtf is going on?"
- Bralidore
But is this making a marquee move for the sake of making a marquee move?
I just don’t feel like Fisher is a marquee head coach, merely a decent/good coach who had perfect timing.
Would this move warrant so much publicity if Cowher or Gruden returned to the sidelines?
Probably not.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
Agreed
Fisher has been overrated and I hope he can see that we need offensive playmakers in a bad way.
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
By this site and the media he is
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
could be to a degree
but I guarantee the players see more in it than that. It’s not marquee in the sense of stock, but in the sense of experience. And that’s more valuable than the “hot hire.”
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that he's probably not a marquee coach.
But I hope he becomes one for us.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Evan Silva
UFAs drafted by Fisher Titans who may interest #Rams: CB Finnegan, DT Jason Jones, S Michael Griffin, DE William Hayes, WR Lavelle Hawkins.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
I wish more people on sbnation
acted like the dolphins fans have been acting cough eagles fans cough
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
We try to be classy.
We have some that love to troll – but overall, we aren’t that bad.
I’m just really glad this whole ordeal is over. Now, we can move on looking for someone, and you guys can get used to Fisher. Now, just trade us the second overall pick, and we’ll call it square.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
sounds good to me
just give us two of Long, Pouncey, Marshall, or Vontae , plus number 8 and you have yourself a deal lol
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+1
I’d go with Long and their first.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see you guys get Chudzinski now.
He was my next choice for the Rams had the Dolphins landed Fisher.
Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Steven Jackson is a beast, a legend, a HoFer and should be treated as such.
He's been my favorite since Sparano was fired.
Rumor is that Dave Toub, the special teams coach of the Bears, is the front runner now.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
"Steve Spagnuolo, a coach so bereft of emotional displays that the Pope told him to bring it up a notch"
My first LOL of the day. Thanks 3k, I needed that. As far as Fisher goes, let’s hope he doesn’t mellow out in his old age. The team needs a collective shoe in the butt.
the land of mediocrity and lying to the media
is basically the promised land after what Spags led us through
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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
Spags was hardly mediocre – 10-38 over three years… and lying to the press? Spags never needed to. Those softballs were easy to answer truthfully.
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
the thing I'm most excited to see
is a team playing with some emotion. I hate nothing more than watching a team play with no passion.
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
So, maybe it's time to stop trashing Spags?
Just a thought.
Let it go now. Look forward, not backward.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
It's never time to stop trashing Spags.
As a HC anyway.
I was talking to buckeye55, not the troll community.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
that was more of a knock on the team
than a knock on spags
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
+1
But I was more referring to your highly recommended post than the one I replied to.
Can’t wait to read your draft stuff this offseason. Should be interesting all the way up to the draft.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
oh okay lol
I have a ton of respect for spags, I guess I’m just happy to see a guy with some experience on the sidelines. Thanks I’m really excited for the draft too lol it will definitely be interesting.
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
I'm OK with replacing Spags with Fisher too.
He’s definitely got experience in spades :)
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
really?
I though you preferred to keep him?
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
I did.
But he is gone now.
And Fisher is the best available replacement, so I can’t complain.
Had we brought in another inexperienced (as a HC) coordinator to replace Spags, I would have laughed and thought that we are continuing our freefall. But we didn’t and so I’m pleased that we got an experienced replacement.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats on the hire.
Hope it works out for you.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM CST reply actions
Heard he already knows who will be on his staff
Does anyone know who he plans on hiring?
Possibly a few titans coaches from his tenure.
Their secondary and secondary assistant were let go look for them
by Seal Clubbing on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
it's all good
but I can dream can’t I?
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
whoops this was supposed to be a few comments down lol
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by JoolzMF on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lmfao
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- Bralidore
I want me some Cortland Finnegan
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
He'll probably re-sign after the season he just had on an up and coming team
sorry about being an epic buzz kill
by Seal Clubbing on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
I know for a while there
Everyone had there doubts on, weather or not we would sign Fisher, this is good news for Rams fans and it should be an exciting 2012 season
RAY
The one thing about Fisher's teams is that they are nasty and mean...
something that Spags would not have allowed. His team are always criticized for playing dirty, I love it! We need that in Stl. I also read, since the Titans moved to Nashville Fisher had the fifth highest win percentage of active coaches between them moving to Nashville to him leaving last year. Thats pretty darn good, I know a few people were bringing up his record as a coach but the 5th highest win percentage is good enough for me!
Exactly
All the people talking about his career winning percentage forgot the limbo years where the “tennessee oilers” were not even sure what stadium was going to be the home stadium the next season. Once they got settled though, they went right to a Super Bowl, and followed it with a 13-3 season. Coach Fish will do fine in St. Louis.
Great post 3k ! Much respect!
by kevio3000 on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM CST via Android app reply actions
thanks kevio
how you likin the Droid App?
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Was Kenny Britt drafted when Fisher was there?
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
I think so
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
Awesome.
I just hope we get Blackmon and Lamichael james!!!
did britt have concerns about him when he came out? Fisher does well controlling those with personality problems for the most part.
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
I want a trade down
and Finnegan lol but if Britt didn’t have character concerns coming out (I think he did, but I can’t remember now) he certainly does now and I think he’s coming off of a torn acl or something
Turf Show Times writer and a proud rams fan.
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
Britt has run into some trouble
He got arrested for speeding (over 100) and running from the cops……also you are correct about him tearing his acl
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
Who wouldn't tear their ACL running over 100mph from the cops?
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Jan 13, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he's another guy I would want to take a shot on
if Tennessee want’s to deal him
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I like this hire for the statement it made. It's one us longtime fans have been waiting for
I gotta say, it’s been a long time since an actual statement has been made. I can’t help but feel we stumbled into Vermeil with a lot of luck. Even John Robinson was a reach by grabbing out of the NCAA pool. All our coaches seemed more like we’ll take whatever the coaching pool coughs up. “Like him or not” is exactly right. I’m just glad to see us get someone that somebady else wanted so bad, and do so because he liked the situation here more. This is the kind of hope a new owner brings to our franchise. Thank you Stan Kroenke, from the bottom of my heart. whether Fisher works out or not is moot to some of us. I want it to work but it’s more than that. This is a sign of change we haven’t experienced in a while. I believe in ownership with a decision like this for the first time since Carol Rosenbloom died.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
dude you really need to stop trolling so hard
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You know you're arguing with someone who is apparently physically incapable of posting here
without some derivative of “LOL” of “haha” in his comments. Just wait for him to make another unbelievably racist comment again and flag him.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I don't remember the racist comment
but I am certainly gonna bring him up to one of the editors if he keeps trolling like this
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
Seriously.
If I ever referred to anyone by this term, I’d deserved to get curb stomped.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Wow.
Politics probably shouldn’t be discussed on TST. Only football and half-naked women.
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
You're forgetting one crucial topic:
TEEEEEEEBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/01/13/tebowie-act-predicts-doom-for-broncos-vs-pats/?module=HP11_headline_stack
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
oops not sure how to post a link,
but its about tebow and funny
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
Do that same thing only not up here in the title section
but down here in the comments section. No tthat I think I know everything but I want to read anything and everything Tebow or tebistic.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
It's Tebowie
Good stuff from Jimmy Fallon
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
all of these are solid points lol
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My fingers are broken today.
Deserve, deserved, deserving, deserves…. dessert?
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 13, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
that’s ridiculous
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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2" - Jesus Follow @jmwehrle
it is okay
we all have are own opinions…..I was getting sick of fisher stretching this out and almost wanted us to move on, but when I found out we hired him, i was very excited.
"St. Louis Rams -- Where every year we are 3 years away."
Yeah, so I just woke up,
and I’m a happy ass dude. Nice piece, 3k.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I woke up at 7:30 and stayed awake for 2 hours listening to music,
then passed out until 2 lol.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
thanks homie
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by 3k on Jan 13, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
3k, if Fisher doesn't get us in the playoffs in the weak NFC West by 2013...
then hiring him is a waste of good money. Rams fan should be expecting more than 6-10 and 8-8 seasons now. Fisher’s got to deliver. There have been shittier teams than the Rams that have turned the corner in shorter times with coaching changes. The Lions were in the playoffs this year, I don’t see why Rams can’t be in it in 24 months.
O-line
What the Rams need is an o-line. Be glad you got Fisher because he believes in protection up front. Bradford and Jackson are being held back by weak o-line play. Expect draft picksmto fortify the offensive and defensive lines. If you guys draft a skill player high, its because he reeeeally likes them, or somebody else wanted them. Until you get that fixed, you will have issues.
Fisherball
One thing you will hear from Titans fans critizing Fisher is “Fisherball,” which is the derogatory term for his overall strategy at Tennessee. Just remember this: in the AFC South, the road to the playoffs was paved through Indianapolis. You did not beat Peyton Manning and the Colts in a shootout. You ran the ball to keep Manning off the field, and tried to get pressure with 4 guys because Manning always picks up the blitz.
Now, Fisher has Bradford and Jackson. He can start building a team to do some shooting of his own.
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