Stan Kroenke Unwilling To Pay Jeff Fisher? Last-Minute Leverage Games?
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 PM CST
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PrintAll day Wednesday, it was reported that Jeff Fisher was leaning toward the Miami Dolphins over the St. Louis Rams. The reason cited most often were Fisher's concerns about the Rams potential relocation. It may be simpler than that, it may be more about money and power.
According to a report from the NFL Network, Rams owner Stan Kroenke has yet to display a willingness to make Fisher one of the highest paid coaches in the league, something that would require a salary around $7 million per year. The Dolphins and owner Stephen Ross may be willing to give Fisher something closer to $8 million per season.
Fisher is also likely to be named an executive vice president of whichever team that hires him. That title would put him higher up the food chain than the general manager. He's said to prefer the organizational structure of the Dolphins, but it isn't clear why since he'd have the title to run the show almost any way he wants.
Now that salary numbers are being thrown out and a decision has yet to be made, it certainly looks as though there's a leverage game going on here, even in the absence of any formal contract negotiations.
Concerns about a potential move are still cited as a factor in Fisher's thinking, but there could even be some maneuvering on that front.
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If Kronke isn't willing to pay him that much
that’s a good thing. He’s a good coach, but no way is he elite and he doesn’t deserve elite coach money.
Nobody's worth what they are paid in the NFL
Time for Kronke to put up or shut up. If Fisher is the best choice pay him. If not tell him to F off and face the music… ain’t it ain’t going to be pretty.
Yeah, but you still aren't going to pay Roger Saffold elite OT money
there still is a system of value that has been put in place, and paying Fisher $8 million doesn’t’ come close to fitting that system
Agree
I like Fischer but c’mon in reality 16 years in one organization and how many Super Bowls has he won? Well needless to say the closest he came to a win was 1 yard and that didn’t even work.
Just a man who loves football
by BurnoutJoeB. on Jan 12, 2012 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
So the miami reports
Could be fisher trying to force kroenke’s hand?
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This is just too much.
Under no circumstances should Fisher be paid that much or be given that much power. They’re just begging him to rip their franchise apart. The LAST THING that I want in the Rams new HC is someone who can straight up tell our GM to shut his mouth in the draft room. I’m practically at the point where I don’t even want him anymore. Rob Chudzinski all the way!
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
I'm feeling the same way
Chud for 2012? Sure, that signing wouldn’t irritate me.
91 For life!
by Ramrocker on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is how I've started to feel today
Askibg price is getting too high
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd offer him $5-6 million a year
but not increase from there and just let him walk if that’s not good enough
I couldn't care less about how much money Kroenke gives him.
What bothers me is the amount of control over the franchise that he’s likely trying to command. It’s like he wants the power and respect of Bill Belichick. That terrifies me.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
and he also basically wants to run the team
And have all the fans’ daughter as his slaves
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
$7 MILL a year for a coach? F*** NO!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Jan 12, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Lol agree/disagree
Ya he isnt elite, but another coordinator might cost him 2 million in tickets….Im torn!
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by Ramrocker on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If he can bring us greg williams and other nih time coordinaters
Pay him
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Were fine on defense
Its offense….Chud For President!!!!!
Besides, Fisher is already overrated.
WE SUCK. THAT IS ALL.
by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Jan 11, 2012 10:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If we'd get a coach that was actually good, it wouldn't matter what they Coordinated
Belichick was a DC, yet look at the Pats
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if he's losing just as much respect out of the Dolphins fanbase?
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Probly
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fuck it, not worth it
Give me Horton
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If he is in it for the money i say fuck him
we need a coach that wants to coach the team, not one that wants big money.
Good god.
$7 mil a year is completely insane. Completely and utterly insane. Either this is a mountainous load of disinformation coming from the Dolphins, or I’m perfectly fine with moving on to Chud or Rick James.
I’ve got a strong feeling that this may just be total bullshit.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way
I was never the biggest fan of his in general. I just felt the Rams needed an established coach for a better turn around time.
I’d love to go for a coordinator who’s young and up and coming. That just leaves us with a bigger gamble since you don’t know what you’re going to get out of a coordinator.
Horton?
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tomlin made the Vikes the leagues #1 rush defense
The Cards defense was hardly turning heads.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Giants stopped Brady and Moss
Howd that coach work out? Sometimes it’s the game adjustments and not just the stats that matter for a HC
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I still like him better than the other candidates
Something to be said for a guy who didn’t just have the best year statistically
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Who knows?
Really what can we tell about these guys after just one year coaching their respective teams. I don’t know that much about either guy to be honest but Horton clearly didn’t have a great defensive year statistically for AZ. Stats aren’t every thing and the only games of theirs I watched were against the Rams and every D looks good against the Rams.
Chud had a great year in Carolina obviously but it was his first year there. He also got a hot young QB. So who helped whom out? Is it mutual? What about the previous 2 seasons as OC for the Browns? We don’t know if he’d keep that up.
The problem with a coordinator is you just don’t know how they’ll turn into a HC. I’ve said before Spags was the hottest coordinator when the Rams hired him after he didn’t pan as an HC.
What are you feeling? Keep some defensive focus or hire an offensive coach who will take care of Bradford?
Boom, brick said it best at the start
Why pay him that much money, when he’s not really an elite coach?
I respect Kroenke for not throwing money at him like the phins….and they are coming off as desperate for doing so
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I didn't think that getting him would require a pact with the Devil
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ok you guys kno more than me chyd
chud or horton.. Who ya got?
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Preferably Chud.
But both are my fallback options at this point.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Horton
I’ll take the guy cause I like the idea of the guy who got the job in the interview (intangible stuff) and not just what his players put out on the field for him. I’d take either really, but prefer Horton
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like chud
Just cause I want an offensive minded coach and I like what he did with steve smith
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 10:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good point, and I like Chud as well
But I’m not sure how much I want to entrust a guy who had access to Cam as HC because of his offense play calling
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lol true
You dnt need to be a guru to ask cam newton to ball hard
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cam Newton
He studied under Terrell Suggs at Balls-So-Hard U!
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
bitchin!
I was literally saying that in my head when you wrote it lmao!
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 10:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Anybody else love when in the Raven Charger game Terrell Suggs
Head Slapped Brick Hand McMichael? I thought it was awesome. Never see Headslaps any more. Mostly cuz they are illegal.
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"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Deacon Jones made it illegal.
because he was so fucking good at it.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Yeah it was Deemed "too effective"
Deacon Jones was so good they had to make a rule to try and make him worse. BAD ASS!
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Yet they didnt deem "Randy Moss when he gives a damn" too effective
What up with that?
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Randy Moss smoking weed makes him too effective.
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Chud. Period.
The thought of us adding two more needs to a draft class because of a defensive switch makes me want to gouge my eyeballs out. We already learned via McDicksuck that you get guys to fit your personel, not fitting players into a scheme that they aren’t built for. If that’s the case I will take Carriker back because he fits the five technique like a mother effer. Let’s get an offensive mind who likes to run the ball. Chud! Chud! Chud!…. Because Horton will make me wanna Chug! Chug! Chug!
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by Ramrocker on Jan 11, 2012 10:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'll take, whoever will be the best head coach
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm just don't know if I want Chud for this reason:
People will have an easy time with the embarrassing nickname. You think “Spags” was stupid? Wait till someone says “Hope Chub can help Sam straighten it out”
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
HA!
I know, such an awful nickname. But hopefully it would become a household name like the Tuna, the Chin or the Hoody.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
What was Cowher? The Spittle?
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cowher dissapproves.
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"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Bill Cowher = Worthy of $7-8 million
Jeff Fisher = Worthy of $4-5 million
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Jim Harbaugh with 0 nfl coaching experience got somewhere around 6 mill
Fisher is worth about 7/
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Spittle seems more appropriate
And Tomlin should be the “Big Angry Looking Black Guy Stare”
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Im black!
jk this was funny lmao tomlin is omar epps twin bro
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
OMG, I watch every episode of House and never noticed that
You gotta admit, he got big eyes!
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Someone, I've found our next coach:
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/House/Images/omar-epps-5.jpg.
It’s as close as we can get to Tomlin
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Holy shit.
It’s like they’re clones.
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Put that guy in steelers clothes and
abduct Tomlin and replace him with this other guy. We have our new HC.
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http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0812/athlete.lookalikes.fan.submissions/images/mike-tomlin-omar-epps.jpg
Post this
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Post it in the comment section not in the title.
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Better?
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0812/athlete.lookalikes.fan.submissions/images/mike-tomlin-omar-epps.jpg
I need someone to upload this!
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol yea first time I saw him I was like
O_o dude looks crazy familiar. Then I watched “juice” and was like oooooo lmao
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bring in Chud already.
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Seriously,
I agree with whoever said he should not be paid that much. I wouldn’t mind if we did it, but I’m not losing sleep if it’s the reason we don’t land him.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Same here.
Fisher wants power and money but the amounts of both are outrageous.
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"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
I mostly disagree with the Bill Parcells power trip thing
He’s an avg to above avg coach. No way does he warrent total control fo the front office. I understand why he wants it but I wouldn’t give it.
When was Bill Parcells brought up?
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Wanting total power to make decisions is reminiscent of Parcells.
Parcells was a better coach though and highly persued when he was free to take new jobs.
Saying Fisher wants "Parcells with the Cowboys" power
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Parcells is one of the best coaches ever and could turn trash into treasure so to speak.
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He wants "Shurmur with the Browns" power.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
Shurmur only got that job cuz his uncle was Fritz.
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Hah yup,
he has no power. I was just messin’. It’s all Holmgren over there.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
That would be cool.
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I'd say
he’s pretty well above average, but he’s not even $5 million above average, let alone $8 million. Pay him or let him walk, either way it’s fine.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
John Harbaugh is being payed like 5 mill
Is Fish worth 3+ mill more? No
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No he isn't
Harbaugh West > Fisher
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not by track record/longevity
Haurbagh took over a team loaded with talent but with a dysfunctional coaching staff. He has done a great job with them but needs a few more years to be compared to fisher.
I still wouldnt pay Fisher 3 mil more knowing how good Harbaugh is
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If a newbie can be paid $5 mil per year
An experienced coach with a proven ability to succeed is woth more.
Harbaugh didn't also get to own the franchise and bang fans' wives
Thats part of Fisher’s negotiations
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hells no haha.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Does his salary count against our salary cap?
Maybe a dumb question. jw
by jmo53 on Jan 12, 2012 2:03 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
My sources say
Belichick being forced out in New England, Fisher’s taking over.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
by douchiedude on Jan 11, 2012 10:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Is there a notification setting
on that SBNation app? I downloaded it as soon as it came out but I have yet to actually use it.. Anyone know? I’ll be sleeping in tomorrow and I don’t want to miss a beat.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
I don't use that shit
Way overly complicated
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rams will suck next year regardless of the coach.
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
by Skunkburner on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Thanks for being up beat.
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I think he is JSWIRB.
JSWIRB is Skunkburner, who is all played by RamChop
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This reminds me of an episode of Family Guy
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I'm a dude, playin' a dude, disguised as another dude!
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Tropic Thunder FTW!
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Damn.
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Have to be.
Fucking twins or something.
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Or it's just proof
That all black people look the same. Probably not
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was going to say that
Then I didn’t
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Their moms got some splaining to do!
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I see what you did there.
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I don't
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because you are stupid.
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King sam
There’s an episode on house where they reference tomlin and epps
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really? Season?
Is it pre or post Huddy?
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure
Just youtube mike tomlin omar epps
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
wears hat mike tomlin. Takes off hat omar epps
Cant explain tht
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm going to make that right now.
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It's not going to have the right O'Riley pic but eh what the hell.
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Which one makes more money?
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never understood that
Superman hide! *puts on glasses and walks away not giving a single fuck
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's stupid.
“OH HAI SUPERMAN!” *puts glasses on “Oh hi Clark you little bitch. Did you get the new covers on those TPS reports?”
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Well, he also always holds back his power and risks losing
Ive seen what happens when he lets loose on a bad guy, it kicks ass
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
fishers workin my nerves
We might be down now but when we get back up u better move out are way are ul get RAMED!!!
by Ramzman18 on Jan 11, 2012 11:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
And the joke flies over all of your heads.
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It's working so far
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
UNEXPLAINABLE!
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Bosh looks like a black avatar btw
And a raptor
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Wasnt it so fitting
When he played for the raptors.true story every time I joked about him being a real raptor, no one would understand
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
How could people not see it
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They ended up dropping out sooooo
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Like this?
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Thoughts:
I’m such a badass, Charles knows nothing, I’m such a badass,
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Better comparison
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yCMCnd4Pz8Y/TcF5Dx6PmNI/AAAAAAAAAEs/CpaZ_O3HJTU/s640/bosh.jpg
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Don't worry I post that shit for you.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Youtube chris bosh gay press conference for a good laff
Dude is so zesty
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously?
What was a better comparison, Tomlin/Epps
or
Raptor/And guy with dreads who used to be formerly known as playing for the raptors?
Hard to say but I'm going with Tomlin Epps
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
I'm legit scared of Mikar Tompps
He would control the world if his two halves ever became one again
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
lol
they could both stare holes into the meanest dudes.imagine if you double it
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But you can't.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
not from mobile
So close.. Yet so far far away :’(
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Too bad....
Bitch.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
lol
dnt make me txt assault ur ass
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
What ever you can't even Rec stuff
but I sure “Rec’d” your mom EH! In your face!
Nah I’m just kidding.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Lmao
No offense taken dude
by Ram_Redemption on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Alright cool.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Just found something that made me happy and sad at the same time.
When we knew this wouldn’t be our season.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
by Joe Mazzi on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh man that was Hilarious.
Come on NY why you gotta be faking injuries to slow down our offense or lack there of.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Grant did a better job of selling his injury
then again he’s a seasoned Vet.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Awesome.
I remember those days. Early enough in the season that I still had hope.
There are many moments in the season when it went down hill for us. That was the first. A really promising drive slowed down by fake injuries and it go in their heads… and then the wheels came off.
If any of you are still on I will see you guys tomorrow.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Just like the Magic's Howard
This could all be a dance to see how much he gets. Better to have two dates for the dance then one. Its all about the money. I like fisher for his 17 years exp. and he should know what talent looks like. He is too smart to draft fillers and go for BEST TALENT ON THE BOARD! something we haven’t done since Holt!
by fearsomefoursum on Jan 12, 2012 1:54 AM CST reply actions
ALL HAIL THE LOS ANGELES RAMS PART 2
This was the litmus test. The Rams offered Jeff Fisher equal money to that being shown by the Dolphins, the Rams have a franchise calibre QB in Sam Bradford in place, excellent cap space. the #2 pick in the draft and also JF was going to be able to choose his own staff. The ONLY thing Fisher demanded from all the rumors I hear is that Stan Kroenke give him a promise that football was a long term deal in St Louis, he didn’t want to go through another upheaval the way he had to when the Oilers moved from Houston to Tennessee. It seems that Kroenke counld’t give him that guarantee. This is a GREAT day for all Los Angeles Rams fans.
ok have to reply
when we lost the cardinals after the 87 season there was know way i wanted them back so whats up with you guys in la
by lil_smokie60 on Jan 12, 2012 4:27 AM CST up reply actions
Did you even read this article?
The part about $7 million a year and an insane amount of power? And once again, I’ll say it for Brick Top: Fisher not signing does NOT mean the Rams are moving, and likewise if he signs- it doesn’t mean they’re staying.
The Chargers are now on a year-to-year lease, starting next season. They’re a stronger possibility than the Rams, so tuck your boner away. Remember: Dean Spanos is the fuckwit who didn’t fire his egoistical buffoon of a GM or his inept, underachieving head coach.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 12, 2012 5:32 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
kronke is a cheap fucking bastard
he is an owner that has never won a championship since the first year he owned the avalanche so see you in La. Guess he learned to much from sam walton. Scab loving prick
Kromer
I will take a guy with some toughness. I think Kromer could have the same effect of this team that Cable did on the Raiders. Not sold on Horton hears a who. Any coach that has a name in a Dr Seuss movie should not be our HC. Chud had a one year wonder with a top notch athlete. He was a TE coach in SD where he had Gates. I would like a coach with some toughness this time around. I say set up a cage and let them fight and whoever walks out is the HC. Whoever walks out second is the DC and third the OC and fourth ST.
Fisher isn't sold on St. Louis
So I think if he doesn’t make up his mind by this afternoon, you call him and say no thanks. And you move on to the next best candidate
The good news is
he isn’t sold on Miami either.
Regardless of how this shakes out, I’m glad to see the brass lining up other candidates.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 12, 2012 8:10 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I think
Stan is reluctant to spend the big money because he knows it’s going to take more than a HC to turn this around. If we were last years niners where you had talent and guys just needed coached up then maybe. Say what you want about Spags and I supported him because he did get the team to play hard. Obviously playing hard doesn’t always equal wins. I do agree perhaps he wasn’t HC material but this team still lacks talent. Fisher migh have squeaked out a couple more wins last year but is that worth the money. I think not. If you want to make top pay you better be sure you put together a contender year in and year out. I would make his contract worth 8-9 mil but it is all 50% incentive based. X amount for each win, X amount for playoffs, X amount for playoff wins ect.
Hmmm...
Okay. Now we’re hearing Fisher may want more cash ($8 million) and more power (executive VP). Maybe he’s beginning to price himself out of a highly lucrative market. That’s more salary and power than Billicheat currently has with the Patriots. With those sorts of demands I’m sure Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy, and/or John Gruden can be pried from their seats in the broadcast booth to coach this team. I like Fisher, but the fact that he’s making this a reality TV event is starting to rub on me. Before I make him a pie in the sky offer, I’m going back to one of the 3 coaches mentioned to see if they’ll take it first.
All I can say is: Well played Fish
He’s got Stan by the balls. It will probably cost more in the long run to not hire him now. No way any of those other proven coaches are coming to the Rams.
I hope Kronke doesn’t take things personally and take a big chance on another unproven coach. What’s an extra million in the grand scheme of things?
by Sggladden on Jan 12, 2012 9:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like Fish, but now he's being overpriced...
and I say Miami can have him. Theres still options out there that can be had cheaper with HC experience. For instance, there are head coaches in the college ranks with NFL coaching experience. Fisher doesn’t have the same resume as Bill Cowher or Bill Billicheat. Why pay him more than those guys? No need to get in a bidding war over a coach that couldn’t win a SB in 17 years with his last team.
If I'm Stan, I'm starting to take option 'B' a lot more serious...
Better than overpaying a coach who’s biggest feat was losing a Superbowl over 10yrs ago. And it took a Music City Miracle during the wild-card playoffs for him to make it there.
I was going to bring that up, but glad you did Da!
He should NOT command such a price tag, his resume says playoffs games and one SB apperance. Is that worth $7-8 MILL @ year? IMO………NO!
Why is Brian Bilik still NOT coaching? He sits in the NFL Network with Faulk, Warner, Sapp and yet does not coach? Why not look into him as Rams HC?
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
For what
it’s worth the phins fans at the Phinsider are thinking along the same lines as us. They are growing tired of Fisher and his premadonna ordeal. One guy says it’s going to be on prime time ESPN tonight just check the listings under The Indecision.
History to repeat itself?
Fisher going to take his talent to South Beach? Does he know that the guy who last did that will never win a championship in South Beach?
I say the Rams just hired somebode else.
He’s a good coach but he wants to be the highest paid? Get out of here.Maybe if he had some super bowl rings. or mayb he’s still bitter he lost to us in super bowl XXXIV and whats taking so long to decide? Almost a week to decide between two teams?
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