Jeff Fisher, The Rams And Los Angeles
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 11, 2012 2:04 PM CST
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An earlier report out of Florida ratcheted up the expectations on Jeff Fisher. That report said that Fisher had picked the Dolphins, and it would be announced at a press conference Wednesday afternoon. That report, as we noted, was thinly sourced and now looks to be bogus. The Dolphins confirmed that they had no presser scheduled today. However, Michael Lombardi of the NFL Network is out with some speculation today that Fisher will go to Miami.
Lombardi says that Fisher is close to making a decision, and sources say, per Lombardi, that Fisher will pick the Dolphins. A decision could be announced today, per the same report.
But there's more...
Lombardi is the latest member of the national media to offer some insight into where Fisher will land. Others, also citing sources, have said that the Rams will be his choice. It should be abundantly clear that no one knows anything. Though it is hard not to wonder based on Lombardi's report today and Adam Schefter's continued belief that Fisher will choose the Dolphins. Both men travel in well-informed circles.
The most troubling part of Lombardi's report was this:
Sources said Fisher wants no part of a potential relocation and feels more comfortable with the structure in place in Miami than St. Louis.
It's already fueling speculation that the Rams will be on their way out, ignoring the fact that there is no real connection from where we are now to packing the moving trucks. The Rams moving is a distinct possibility, but the current administration has gone to great lengths to expand the franchise footprint in the St. Louis area, in everything from charitable outreach to buying up unsold tickets. It's not that a move is out of the question. Quite frankly an open spot in Southern California strengthens Stan Kroenke's hand in getting a more favorable stadium deal in St. Louis.
The Rams aren't really in a position to give Fisher any assurances about what will happen with the stadium lease. The St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission is keeping tight wraps on a plan to update the Dome to get in line with that obtuse "top quarter" clause. They have to present that plan to the Rams on Feb. 1. The Rams can pitch a counter offer later in the spring and the two sides can go to arbitration, with a resolution by the end of the calendar year, if there is to be a resolution.
Unfortunately, the Rams nor Jeff Fisher can wait until Feb. 1, much less the months beyond that. The business of football marches on and they have a big project at hand to breathe new life into a bad team.
Don't discount the possibility of the L.A. talk being another smoke screen thrown up with the intention of swaying Fisher.
Their attempt to land Fisher is a sign that the Rams would like to find some long term stability after being adrift for so long. Now, if only they could get a decision from the guy.
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Lombardi says MIA, Glazer says STL and I say STFU.
How many interviews are going on in MIA? Zippy! In STL? Their asking all over the league now for permission to talk to people. If you dont think STL is serious about getting someone in here and doing REAL work, then Fisher might as well just pack his bags for MIA.
I still want Greg Williams in STL though.
Screw it, I just don't care anymore
Just get a coach. Horton is my new favorite. I’ll take the guy who they only interviewed for Rooney Rule purposes who they are now wowed by, because the last coach like that was Tomlin
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
if true and fisher goes to miami
this will be a pr problem for the rams that could hurt ticket sales
this franchise is such a mess
Part of the reason people think they will go to LA is cause this fan base never goes to games at this point (at least from what I see on tv)
At least Detroit was always full
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's complete BULL SHIT!!
There is great fan support for the Rams in STL!! Tell me one team that is as bad as the Rams and has not had any blackouts in the season!! Don’t worry…I’ll wait. The Chargers and the Bengals despite their success have had many more blackout than the Rams. IF the Rams want a full Dome, put a good team on the field!!! It won’t matter where you are if you’re this bad, you won’t have full stadiums!!
It's still why the speculation won't go away
And Detroit (despite their economy) still had the best fans in the league IMO
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I meant durin the bad years
They have always had great fan support
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Attendance is awful
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No it isn't
look at the stats compared to other teams that have been as bad as the Rams. I’m a season ticket holder and attendance has been great in STL considering the team is 2-14. NO BLACKOUTS!!!
No blackouts, like when Kroenke had to buy all those tickets?
I will admit I can’t remember if that was to avoid blackout or to get sellout, but congrats on having a bigger fan base than Tampa
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's true though,
the blackout thing is because tickets are being bought up by ownership lol.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Purely on the blackout issure, by the way.
St. Louis has great sports fans.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
There are great fans
But it’s a small fan base
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"ready to get behind this team" umm wtf?
Ready? Ready? BE BEHIND THE TEAM!
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
Want to guarantee a full Dome? Just win, baby.
Im looking for a half full Dome
So at least people will drop the LA thing.
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dude, STFU.
Winning is the best marketing tool. If they win, they will come.
As for LA, I honestly don’t think it’ll happen. We’ve been there, done that.
This team has done much better selling out in St. Louis than they EVER did in LA. That’s a fact. So, what honestly makes you think they can consistently sell out in LA?
Also, keep in mind that Kroenke is a Missouri guy and is committed to doing everything in his power to keep the team in St. Louis. So, unless he indicates otherwise, I don’t want to hear a word about the team moving to LA.
I don't think they should or will go to LA
The reason that people think its a serious option is cause attendance is awful. If people in St Louis don’t want to come out and support the team monetarily, than the NFL will go find a fan base somewhere else that will
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Attendance is great at games in STL
how about you look at stats before you start making assumptions about it. The Rams first time without a sellout came in 2006, 11 years after they moved here.
Lets look at when they haven't been great shall we?
Outside GSOT, they have awful attendance, and the best draw they had this year involved the chiefs
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
NO there were full stadiums every game up to about 2007
even before GSOT the Dome was always full. Look at this shit before you start saying stupid shit like that
And 07 on?
It’s not good.
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because they aren't largely a fair weather fan base
The majority of Rams fans only attend games when the going is good obviously, and btw, I’m seeing why Albert was sick of the city
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Now you just saying shit to piss people off
no class at all man. Cardinal fans are the best in the world and Pujols would tell you that off the bat. He left for more money and that’s it.
Pujols still left y'all
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Excuse me, I'm getting a text..... Albert just texted me:
LEFT
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He basically got shown the door
Who doesn’t research now?
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Making friends quickly huh KSR.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Yep
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You point out they don't sell enough tickets and they get pissed quick
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah you can'
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
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diss Cards fans. They really are arguably the best in baseball. Dodgers fans are unfortunately among the worst now… Thanks, Frank McShit.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Cubs
Well, when loyalty is taken to point where there is no expectation that the team will even try, that’s not a good thing, as the last 103 years show.
I'm not gonna fault a fan base for supporting their team
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They only go to games because it's a party at Wrigly
most don’t even know what the fuck is going on at games in Chicago
Exactly
I have lived in Chicago for the last 4 1/2 years (unfortunately ripped from STL due to work) and you are right. I have been to lots of games over the years at Wrigley and it is mostly all about the party and being seen there. Not to say that there aren’t true fams there.
They will notice and they will giggle.
Hahaha
I love when my friend talks shit about Cubs fans, always funny. He’s a Cards fan too.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Lions
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Marlins report that they have loads of people and the building is empty
Pics of the stadiums durin the games confirm it for me, the Lions way out drew the Rams in bad years, and they were awful for 20 years
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm a season Tix holder and the Dome was about 70-75% full
in the later games of the year when there was nothing to play for.
unfortunately,
The 10 years before GSOT they sucked and half of that decade was here in Anaheim (L.A). Ten years after GSOT they suck again. Reminds me of the REM song…..“Everybody hurts…..sometimes!”
I'm suffering from an extreme case of laurinaitis!
by NachoD on Jan 11, 2012 3:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Keep in mind,
the child running his mouth and talking shit about this fan base isn’t even a Rams fan. He’s that special breed of fan who, admittedly, doesn’t have a favorite team, just hugs the balls of Bradford.
Don’t let what he says bother you, is my point.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 11, 2012 2:54 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'll hug the balls of the Sooners all I want
5 Heismans, 7 National titles, Bud, Barry, Bob. This team? Faulk and Warner for 5 something years which netted one super bowl
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And yeah,
the “complacent idiots” remark pissed me off.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 11, 2012 3:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Oh dear, you've got one hell of a shock coming St Lou.
This was the litmus test. The Rams offered Jeff Fisher equal money to that being shown by the Dolphins, the Rams have a franchise calibre QB in Sam Bradford in place, excellent cap space. the #2 pick in the draft and also JF was going to be able to choose his own staff. The ONLY thing Fisher demanded from all the rumors I hear is that Stan Kroenke give him a promise that football was a long term deal in St Louis, he didn’t want to go through another upheaval the way he had to when the Oilers moved from Houston to Tennessee. It seems that Kroenke counld’t give him that guarantee. This is a GREAT day for all Los Angeles Rams fans.
by rip.cruncher on Jan 12, 2012 4:07 AM CST up reply actions
L.A RAMS PT 2
This was the litmus test. The Rams offered Jeff Fisher equal money to that being shown by the Dolphins, the Rams have a franchise calibre QB in Sam Bradford in place, excellent cap space. the #2 pick in the draft and also JF was going to be able to choose his own staff. The ONLY thing Fisher demanded from all the rumors I hear is that Stan Kroenke give him a promise that football was a long term deal in St Louis, he didn’t want to go through another upheaval the way he had to when the Oilers moved from Houston to Tennessee. It seems that Kroenke counld’t give him that guarantee. This is a GREAT day for all Los Angeles Rams fans.
by rip.cruncher on Jan 12, 2012 4:09 AM CST up reply actions
And dude, this fan base is bull shit
Its a fan base of complacent idiots who wanted to keep Spags and who have gotten use to losing. Fact. Ask a fan base that wins what they think of the Rams fan base, they’ll tell you it sucks
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, most wanted Spags gone
how about you actually come to STL and talk to Rams fans before you judge how we support our team!!!
I don't think that's true at all
What other fan bases see in us is a “always losing team” group of people. That will change as it has with every team that has a losing record of late when it shifts to winning games.
You give far to much credibility to “nee-ner-nee-ner” fan bases that have winning teams. It’s easy to be a fan of a winning team. The Rams have a VERY loyal core of fans, win or lose
It's loyal
But it’s frickin small as crap
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I may be breaking the rule with this comment but here goes
Frack you guy. This comment really pisses me off. Who are you to come here and talk this way when you just came to the Rams to follow your college quarterback. Complacent idiots? My ass. All you have to do is read through this message board and find hundreds of references to the majority of us who have been calling for change in the regime. Gotten used to losing? My ass. I don’t think any of us have gotten used to losing. There isn’t a game that goes by that I don’t think we have a shot, and my guts turn when we lose. Most of us would give almost anything for a pair of tickets even if it was to go see a 2-13 team play the last game of the year.
Fucking troll
They will notice and they will giggle.
Would give anything for a pair of tickets?
But them and go then
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
*buy
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Have and do go every year to at least 2 games
I said most of us, not implying myself. Have you ever been to a game? There has not been one where I haven’t sat down and had the fans all around me talking football and being knowledgable.
They will notice and they will giggle.
Great your a loyal fan
Get more
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not saying there aren't loyal fans
But if there aren’t about a stadiums worth every game, then people are gonna say they will go to LA
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
First thing
you’ve said thats made sense;) We need more butts in seats.
They will notice and they will giggle.
Thank you, that's been what I've been trying to point out
Although there are a few good number of fans who are complacent
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But saying the stadium isn't full because we're a lously fan base is completely off base
it’s because the teams sucks and that’s the only reason. And the reason the Cardinals are bigger than the Rams is the Cards have been in STL since 1892. They are ingrained into the city. My great grandfather watched them as a child, but didn’t grow with the Rams. It takes time to build a bond like that between a city and a team.
It's got good fans, but the intense group is small
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Need to keep one thing in mind
When you see Eagle, Bear, Packer or other fans like those well entrenched programs, remember, this city had the Cardinals before the Cardinals went to Phoenix. They were then replaced by the inter divisional rival, Rams. I can’t think of a better way to really shit on the older generations of local NFL fans than to do something like that and continue to market towards them as if nothing ever happened.
None of this is any ones fault but it results in a limited fan base from a medium sized fan resource size. Most St Louis fans by a long shot, and certainly a much higher proportion of St Louis Ram fans are of a much younger age. There are no older St Louis Ram fans. I mean there are some, but relatively speaking, the fan base in St Louis is probably 90% supported by those who’ve become fans in the last 16 years. In other cities, the percentage is much lower because of the presence of an entire section of fans who’ve followed their team for longer than that time.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Well, look at it this way.
The Browns haven’t had more than 5 wins in four years, are in a much tougher division than the Rams, and arguably have less hope of future success (since the Rams at least have a couple good players including Bradford). They have around 66,000 attendance at each home game. The Rams usually have around 56,000 at a home game.
Or, as a Chief fan, the Chiefs-Rams game from 2010 gave me one of my favorite stats. In that season, the Chiefs game was the largest crowd the Rams had at home all season. However, that was the smallest crowd the Chiefs played in front of all year.
In general, St. Louis is just not a good town for the NFL. It is the only city with an NFL team where the NFL team isn’t the biggest team in town, and in my experience the Rams aren’t even the #2 team. In LA they will have a much larger market and likely a much better stadium.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 11, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
St. Louis the Only City where the NFL team isn't #1?
Boston. New York. You may have heard of them.
I'd say that New York it is the Knicks yes
But Boston it’s 1a 1b. St Louis is ridiculous how far behind the Rams are
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Knicks?
Good point. Because most New Yorkers can even barely be considered Yankees fans, right?
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 11, 2012 3:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Knicks own New York
Yanks are winning all the time and I still bet the Knicks do better with attendance percentage
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Admittedly, I guess I can't say that for sure.
But I would be willing to bet that the Patriots are bigger in Boston than any other team and the Giants are bigger than any team in New York.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 11, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Knicks win in NY, but Celts and Pats are equal IMO
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Celts and Pats equal,
both pretty far behind the Sox.
St. Louis only City where NFL team isn't #1?
Boston? New York?
For a reference.
This year, the Rams had the second worst attendance in the NFL, only ahead of Cincinnati.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 11, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
And that's not including how Kroenke had to buy tickets
Bottom line: to get good players to want to play in a small market, you need an intensely loyal fan base (Packers or Oklahoma City). Otherwise, if it’s not an amazing crowd, they will take the big city every time
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Packers don't have an intensly loyal fanbase as far as I can tell.
It’s easy to root for a team that has contended for the Super Bowl consistently for the last 20 years.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 11, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Loyalist fan base in sports
Just cause they are winning doesn’t mean they aren’t loyal. Green Bay lives and dies for that team, literally
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Same goes for OKC
you can’t say their loyal when all they’ve know is success with Durant on their team
The first year there they were AWFUL
And the fan base was as loyal as could be. They were the same way for the Hornets, who werent even theirs. Any player will tell you there is no fan base like OKC
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Have visited family in OKC and went to a few games. The fans are nuts, the city loves them, good point.
They will notice and they will giggle.
Thunder havent always been good
It just start last year and they keep it going. They also have a great fanbase behind them (no shot intended). Even when they sucked for a little it was amazing to see how full the stadium was. Hope to go to a rams game one of these days..
Bradford + Blackmon = Secondaries Beware
by RG31 on Jan 11, 2012 3:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think the Thunder
have ever signed a big name. Perkins came by trade (that he did not know was happening) and the rest of that core was drafted.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Durant signed his huge extension
Perkins signed an extension after 5 minutes in the city (when he was greeted off te plane by a mob of fans practically). And Russ will in all likely hood sign his before the season is up.
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And I applaud him for that.
He’s a very respectable guy. But if he wasn’t drafted there, he wouldn’t have signed with the Thunder. He wants to help bring a title to the team that drafted him, and that’s always great in sports since it’s so rare nowadays. And I didn’t say Perkins was unhappy for being traded there, just that it wasn’t his choice. Of course he’d sign an extension, this is without a doubt the most well-built team to contend for at LEAST 5-7 years.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Because they can keep their core because they love the fan base
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL yeah,
their extension had to do with the fan base and not the fact that they’ve built a contender with their three stars being below 25. Delusional. That’s like saying Kobe stayed for the fans in LA. He stayed because LA WILL contend for titles as long as he’s there. These guys care about winning, not about a fan base.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Durant stayed because he loves the city and fans
He had no guarantee that either Green (now Perk) or Russ would stay long term
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hmmmm, cause that kept Lebron in Cleveland
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yup, LeBron left a
GREAT and loyal fan base (he was a hometown hero, after all) for Miami.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Oh great and loyal
The ones who were burning his jersey and damning him and wanting him to die the second who chose that he wanted to win
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because
he burned them badly. They obviously cared a shit ton about him staying to react like that.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
He gave them 7 yrs to put a team around him
They didn’t. I give St Louis credit for being respectable about Pujols, not condemning him like Lebron was. Even though Pujols did it solely for money while Lebron went to win for less money
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I never said whether or not
it was the Cavs’ fault for not building a contender. I think he made the right choice. But this is about the fans caring, and they obviously did.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
We were respectable, because we wouldn't of wanted to pay Pujols that much
and we accepted that he made a decision that 99% of people would have made. He was great in STL, but he could of been legendary if he stayed.
At least you didn't throw a fit like Ohio is
And they are over a year removed and still act like 5 yr olds
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ohio still needs to shut up
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Leborn wants to win and that wouldn't happen with the Cavs
he’s worried about his legacy, but Durant can and will win in OKC
And on top of it
Dan Gilbert is a prick and a douche
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I'm sure he does,
but if you think that’s why he made his decision, you’re crazy. I guarantee you 90% of sports fans do NOT base their decision on a fan base. Some maybe cities, but not a fan base.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
50% the team contends, 30% the coaches and FO, 20% fans
Lots of other teams offer the exact same 80%
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hell no they don't,
not to the extent of the Thunder. There hasn’t been a team with this bright a future that I can even remember. In any sport. Their core is so young and the FO has put the right pieces around them.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
He coulda promised to go join D-Wade himself
Or gone to the Lakers, or Celtics, or any other number of places. He picked the place he loves
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by King Sam Rules! on Jan 11, 2012 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly, and he loves that place for being the team that drafted him.
Good for him, but like I said, he doesn’t pick the Thunder if he’s not drafted there.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Generally they don't show enough crowd shots for anyone to determine the crowd at the game...
That said the crowds have been declining after peaking at the start of the season but not to the level of other teams that were actually winning a few games. You can’t build the expectations of your fan base the way the Rams did and not expect to have a drop off at the gate when your team falls flat on it’s face.
Kronke is about to face a PR nightmare that is entirely his own making. You simply can not let rumors of relocation hang over your franchise for years and not address them publicly. How can you expect people to continue to invest in this turd of a team if in the back of their mind they’re thinking regardless of what happens your going to move the team?
Wanna talk fan base
How would the fan base look in LA if the Rams last 3 years was in their backyard?:
ALL HAIL THE LOS ANGELES RAMS.
Final confirmation as if anyone needed it that the Rams are going home to their rightful city.
by rip.cruncher on Jan 12, 2012 4:15 AM CST up reply actions
Stop spamming the comment sections with this half- assed rhetoric.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 12, 2012 6:01 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Why not just put a $10 million "If we move" penalty in his contract and a auto-release from his contract?
Wouldn’t that solve any concerns Fisher has with a potential move? He gets a boat load of money and can stay or go with the team if he chooses?
Going going..back back...to Cali Cali
Hahaha
by STlunatic89 on Jan 11, 2012 2:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Fisher playing chess
Trying to bilk Kroenke for more money. Seen this before. Kobe did it to the Lakers when they were not considering to give him the max extension.
That wouldn't fit Fisher's personality.
I think Stan has a set way he’s going to deal with the situation and that doesn’t include being played into upping his offer.
Possibly the delay is Fisher was bluffing and Stan called him in it but more than likely he’s getting wooed by a butt load if money.
Negotiating ploy?
Apparently, some Miami people think he’s using these Miami rumors as leverage with the Rams. Makes sense, these leaks wouldn’t help him negotiate with the Dolphins, would they?
That seems to be a growingly popular idea.
This article, from the MSS of all places, points to this being a lot of talk from the Fisher camp to squeeze a few more dollars out of Stan.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
This news makes me happy and mad
Mad cause Fisher was my favorite choice. The rest are all unproven.
Happy cause this really could signal the Rams are coming back to LA. It’s been too long. Nothing against you STL fans, but I just really miss this team playing next to my residence.
I could see Stan hiring a cheap coach to fill in for the next couple of years. Once (IF) they move to LA, some big name coaches like Cowher or Gruden would be begging for a shot to coach this team on the rise.
I live in Wisconsin so it isn't as big of a deal for me.
St.Louis or L.A. it doesn’t matter for me. The rams are the rams. Bottom line.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
same mindset here
been a ram fan my whole life, started off in LA and i was a fan when they moved to STL I will be a fan wherever they move, even if they move to AK with all the homos up there… jk haha
by navybluenachos33 on Jan 11, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
i live in Arizona and i'm not sure how big of a deal it would be to me
I grew up around the stl area and didn’t become a rams fan until 1995. Never was a cards fan because my dad/relatives always bitched about the bidwells. If the rams moved, i’m not sure how my fan loyalty would be affected. Probably fade over time as the last players that played in stl left the team.
i’d prefer they just stay in stl…and up their win total a bit. :-)
by hex706f726368 on Jan 11, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that's my issue as well.
Fisher is the only proven head coach that we’ve interviewed. Really hope he picks us.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Fisher
If Fisher chooses the Fish, he wasn’t the right coach for the Rams anyway. Not the end of the world. Has anyone reached out to Cowher?
What I really would love to see at this point
is for both teams to announce that they’ve hired someone else because they got tired of waiting
Haha...
This made me laugh. I would rec thee if able.
"Fac Fortia et Patere"
by FailureDrill on Jan 11, 2012 3:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I found that comment humorous.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28
Lol hateful thread
But, to be honest KSR, you are out of line. Winning brings attendance. Prime example, if you lived in a town that had a strip club with girls that were filthy, toothless, one legged, would u pay to go? We are all fan of strip clubs, we like naked girls, will always like naked girls. But, if all there was to see are troll-like chicks we wouldnt pay to see em. Bring in some talent and fill seats… Marketing 101, football is a entertainment industry, to pay 70 bucks to see entertainment, it better be fuxin entertaining. The spoiled fans who don’t bleed for this team, are just that, spoiled. Get over it Sam will not be the second coming of the GSOT, he will be a dink n dunk wizard, who leans on a HOFer RB and a young fast defense. St. Louis will show its appreciation by buying tickets when Kroenke fixes what linehan/martz/spags effed up. If there is one thing Rams fans have had over the past 40 years, is patience…. Yep even in LA, they where patient, not complacent……. Sincerely, the life long Ram fans in Montana.
91 For life!
by Ramrocker on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I wouldnt apologize Brick.
These are forums. People state their own opinions, some people look intelligent, others do not. Its perception from the reader. I have never been to a game in St. Louis but, I would absolutley hate to ever see them leave. We want our franchise to be one that is recognized, not scrutinized because they are so incompetent that they have to bounce from city to city. The thing that makes the Rams an all-time great franchise is because of the history. This team has had more up and downs than any other franchise I can remember. Reguardless, this is a forum, speak your mind with fellow Ram fans because if things continue down the road they have been over the past 5 years, we will be the only ones left to talk to!
91 For life!
Lol hateful thread
But, to be honest KSR, you are out of line. Winning brings attendance. Prime example, if you lived in a town that had a strip club with girls that were filthy, toothless, one legged, would u pay to go? We are all fan of strip clubs, we like naked girls, will always like naked girls. But, if all there was to see are troll-like chicks we wouldnt pay to see em. Bring in some talent and fill seats… Marketing 101, football is a entertainment industry, to pay 70 bucks to see entertainment, it better be fuxin entertaining. The spoiled fans who don’t bleed for this team, are just that, spoiled. Get over it Sam will not be the second coming of the GSOT, he will be a dink n dunk wizard, who leans on a HOFer RB and a young fast defense. St. Louis will show its appreciation by buying tickets when Kroenke fixes what linehan/martz/spags effed up. If there is one thing Rams fans have had over the past 40 years, is patience…. Yep even in LA, they where patient, not complacent……. Sincerely, the life long Ram fans in Montana.
91 For life!
by Ramrocker on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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