St. Louis Rams announce initial 53-man roster
by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2011 6:16 PM CDT
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PrintSome familiar names were left behind today as the St. Louis Rams continue their journey through the 2011 season. The cut list, so far, includes promising young defensive end George Selvie, a host of undrafted free agents and some veteran offensive linemen once thought to be a lock for the final roster. The most familiar name on the list: 2008 second-round pick, wide receiver Donnie Avery.
Avery announced the news on Twitter moments ago:
Its been real St.Louis. I had a good 3 years. The feelings were mutual. We both thought I need a fresh start somewhere else. #NoHardFeelings
I wonder if the Rams tried to trade him, hence the silence on the receiver moves today. This tweet certainly makes it sound as though he was not traded. Earlier today, Jim Thomas from the Post-Dispatch said that a trade was still a possibility to clear up room at receiver. Avery has some potential, but could never really get over that hump with the Rams. I liked him for making the final cut, but McDaniels' offenses have never put much value on pure speed.
The cuts by the Rams include: DB Tim Atchison, WR Donnie Avery, TE Demarco Cosby, LB Zac Diles, DB Tae Evans, DT Marlon Favorite, T Renardo Foster, WR Mardy Gilyard, DT John Henderson, T Kevin Hughes, QB Thaddeus Lewis, WR Greg Mathews, T Ryan McKee, DT Daniel Muir, DB Jonathan Nelson, G Quinn Ojinnaka, TE Fendi Onobun, RB Chase Reynolds, DE George Selvie and RB Keith Toston.
Now, don't get your knickers in a bunch, the Rams will make some changes to this version of the 53-man roster, perhaps very soon. One player to keep an eye on is Eagles CB Joselio Hanson, who was released today. The Rams were said to be interested in Hanson earlier this week. Now, they figure to be one of several potential suitors.
Wide receivers: No surprises at the top of the depth chart. Mike Sims-Walker, Brandon Gibson, and Danny Amendola own the top spots. Also making the cut were the rookie draft picks, Greg Salas and Austin Pettis. That shouldn't be a surprise. Teams don't walk away from third and fourth-round picks after a month of play; it's rare to do it even when the offseason isn't nixed by a lockout. Dominique Curry also made the final cut, thanks to his inspired special teams play. Mark Clayton has been added to the PUP list, meaning his return will not happen until after week 6 at the earliest. Clayton is insurance for the others, especially Danario Alexander. That's seven receivers and Clayton on the PUP.
Tight end: The biggest surprise here was Ben Guidugli, who made the final cut as the Rams keep four.
Offensive line: Adam Goldberg, Hank Fraley and Drew Miller are the backups, for now. Miller earned it with solid all around play during the preseason.
QB: I'm a little surprised that Thaddeus Lewis was cut. Hopefully, he can clear waivers and land on the practice squad. A.J. Feeley's veteran presence on the bench for Sam Bradford probably earned him extra credit.
Linebacker: Congrats to Jabara Williams, a guy who showed nothing but heart and skill on the field this year, for making the final cut. Bryan Kehl, Chris Chamberlain and Josh Hull round out the depth chart behind the starters.
More moves to come? Don't be surprised. Right now, the Rams have five safeties and just four cornerbacks. I do not expect them to start the season with just four cornerbacks.
Two members of the Rams' 2011 draft class did not make the final cut, S Jonathan Nelson and CB Mikail Baker. Baker was injured/waived, and Nelson was released today. Don't be surprised if Nelson ends up on the practice squad.
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lol
O it will he will make the rams pay for cutting him dx over avery is completely ludacris it makes me laugh
by Ew-Whip11 on Sep 3, 2011 6:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Avery just didn't fit into what we are doing
Plus he isn’t really a proven talent. I was surprised to see him go as I kind of thought DX’s knee was going to pull him off the roster but obviously the coaches felt a limited amount of DX was better than a limited amount of Avery. Also I believe we only had Avery under contract through this season- No sense in developing a square peg when we can upgrade with a draft pick or FA. I’m sure he’ll catch on somewhere but I’m not losing any sleep on the possibility of facing him.
by Sggladden on Sep 3, 2011 7:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Chamberlain
is certainly because he is our best special teamer and a better linebacker than Kehl. He was pretty much a lock. Now Kehl on the other hand….
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
He's actually
easily the most noticeable on special teams. It may not seem like a lot on paper, but he’s an asset. Again, Kehl on the other hand….lol
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I'm down with Chamberlain
dude is a tackling machine on special teams. But I don’t get keeping Kehl in that his one skill seems to be coverage on passing downs. He’s not noticeable on special teams. Kehl has speed but is passive as a tackler in space … so how do you keep this guy as a backup WIL? I guess his ability as a coverage LB was enough. Certainly we will upgrade this roster spot after the season.
What I'm wondering is.
Did Kehl really outplay Zac Diles?
by Zoo on Sep 3, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Both should be hitting the bricks instead of just Diles...
… Did you see the tweet from Diles agent? He sounded like a literary agent I know when her clients get a bad book review…lol
I wasn't impressed with Diles
I think Kehl should have been cut also but when Kehl hits he hits with bad intentions and that goes a long way.
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avery
why does everyone like this guy c’mon man what has he ever done remember who we could of had in that draft and pettis is a bum
i do support the team
but they give up on gilyard after one season we draft two guys with not much speed i just dont get that
What are you watching
Gilyard is way faster then Salas and Pettis. He also can run after he catch the football. Avery really showed his speed the other night after he caught that pass in the third quarter. What are you guys seeing. Pettis and Salas are very slow.
well I didn't see a lot of value in drafting both Pettis and Salas
But Salas looks like he has great hands and has a chance of being an excellent possession receiver. Pettis has just looked uncomfortable. Receivers have a notoriously hard time getting up to speed in their first year, so you really can’t expect much given the short off-season.
Gilyard, on the other hand, was given every possible chance to show that he belonged, and he just couldn’t do it.
on gilyard
i agree with that so we will see
You are right BUT
We already have Gibson,Amendola, Pettis and Salas and none of them could make a high school track team. Now we have four possession receivers. Do not compare to Holt, Curtis or Bruce. Our four receivers only have the speed of tight ends and linebackers. I hope this team do not move to L.A.
Dude, are you serious?
Both Pettis and Salas run a 4.5 and as the dude above pointed out, Gilyard ran a 4.5 as well. Pettis and Salas also have top notch lateral quickness. Who cares if they won’t make track teams, that’s why they’re freaking wide receivers, not track stars. You will never see Jerry Rice on a track team, or Larry Fitzgerald.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Pettis and Salas runs 4.6 . they have good hands but they are not going to scare any team. Their stats will look just like Amendola, 10 catches for 81 yards. Just wait and see. All of Avery passes this preseason have been for over 17 yards per catch. So you did not see him turn the speed on after the catch the other night ? Also speaking of Salas and Pettis, in college most of their highlights in college was red zone or short yardage. You never saw any 15 yards catches that turn into runs of another 30 to 40 yards. They are not big play makers. They do catch the ball on third and eight and come up with first downs. We are going to be just like last year team with our receivers.
short yardage and redzone wr's? i dont what highlights you saw...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsqqmN-ffeY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48ukVKewY9A&feature=related
now pettis might fill out as a redzone threat but salas can straight up burn, reminds me of hines ward.
by Mark Jaramillo on Sep 4, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I think this video
of Salas is even better. No sound but a plethora of catches, short, medium, long, in traffic, breaking tackles, making some moves, plowing over potential tacklers, one hand catch, etc. I think he’s a good 4rth round pick. As always, how does his skill set translate to the NFL? We’ll have to wait and see…
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Sep 4, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why they were drafted,
because we were one of THE worst teams in the redzone. I’m well-aware of Pettis’ redzone pedigree. He led the nation in the last two years with 27 redzone receptions and 22 redzone touchdowns. The rest of his team combined had 20 redzone touchdowns. You act like that’s a bad thing LOL. As for Salas, look at his numbers. No way you have his production on just short yardage, especially when your QB also led the league in yards. And since when was a 15 yard catch short? Quit living in the Madden world.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
And their combine profiles
listed a 4.53 for Salas and a 4.56 for Pettis.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Linebackers and tightends
they do not run 4.5 Like I said tight ends and outside linebackers also carry speed in the 4.5 rage. Avery was 4.25 in the 40 . On a bad day he runs 4.3 . I like play makers. We will see what happens in the pros. Do not just look at college.
Pettis
22 redzone touchdown catches in the last two years of college, you will not find anyone with more than that in that time period. This kid WILL develop into a legit weapon, just wait. That’s why we drafted him. Salas is just awesome, look at his production and you’ll see why we drafted him. They don’t know to be blazers, but both of them have real lateral quickness.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
that could go with every single draft man
We could have had Brady too thats just a stupid anaology. I bet Avery burns us this year and Spags will look like an idiiot
would have, could have, should have doesn't count with who we keep or cut
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loss of respect
are you serious? “I hope your knees last longer than DX’s” What a pile of shit, you just made yourself sound like. You hope this guys knees fail? Fuck off you fag!
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come on, that doesn't give you the right to use that kind of language
by hr on Sep 3, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd know by reading my comments
that I actually hate using that kind of language but to hope one guy’s knees go out before another deserves it. I hope neither of their knees go out but that’s just me.
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I've actually seen knees go out
And I’m a man and everything but I brings tears to ones eyes to see that happen to a kid.
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they are back ups
what do you want them to do on downs 1-3?
HAha
I'm only calling you bitches 'cuz I don't know your names individually.
by LOOKthatsCHAD on Sep 3, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
don't you remember how *terrible* our special teams were a few years ago?!
It is definitely worthwhile to devote 2-3 roster spots for special teams aces.
How many more changes do we see in next week from this list?
My guess is at least 4 with o line depth, corner, and a couple of other potential moves.
Fondest Avery memory
Torching the Pats.
Worst Avery memory – dancing like an idiot after scoring a TD against Minnesota while the Rams were getting blown out.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
by Smoooth Criminal on Sep 3, 2011 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
Honorable mention to huge catch against the Redskins to set up a game winning FG.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
by Smoooth Criminal on Sep 3, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I had forgotten all about that. What a jackass!! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
by Skunkburner on Sep 3, 2011 6:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNxs_Oo35kA
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
by Smoooth Criminal on Sep 3, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup kept him
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
by Smoooth Criminal on Sep 3, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks brother..
Like what ya’ll have done in the last 2 years. You guys are really going to make some noise in the NFC West.. Good luck
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
Thank you.
Make Rivers cry please haha. Good luck!
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by Smoooth Criminal on Sep 3, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Stick around and you'll probably get DX. Soon.......
Love McCluster and J.C.. They’re explosive…
Kinda glad DA is gone. High potential, poor showing. Didn’t look very good in pre season. The clock is ticking for D Alexander. his days are numbered.
by Skunkburner on Sep 3, 2011 6:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
When Clayton. Comes back dx is gone!
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 6:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah agree with riotmute.
If DX is healthy and playing well, Curry is gone. If not, Curry stays for ST purposes. It’s pretty much a win-win I guess.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Big if
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 6:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They'll cut Amendola first.....
…..guess I was wrong, eh?
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 3, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope not
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 6:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hey, it takes a big man...
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
I own it leadhead
And when he catches 30 balls for 240 yards this year it’ll make me as right as you are now. On the other hand, if he is Wes 2.0 then I’ll be as happy as anyone to be wrong.
But w’ll see what happens.
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 4, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I am in no way serious...I am actually bummed that Mardy didnt work out
I route for all of them to make the team, but I can kinda see when they are not…
That being said, if Amendola goes in the 240 yard neighborhood, you can totally stick it to me LOL!
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
+1
Even I want Danny to be great. I’m just not overly optimistic :)
No problems either……I love jousting with people over here.
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 4, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You red necks should stop waiching football.
Its about winning. Not about who you do not like.
Hopefully Thad makes it to the PS
He’s a diamond in the rough, with real potential to be a starter one day. Not that I want him to start for the Rams, but teams now a days seem to pay a hefty premium when trading for young talented 2nd string QBs. Could be good trade bait in the future, let’s hope he continues to fly under the radar for now.
Kehl :(
At least he’s not starting. Damn, Thad is the one I’m upset about. Him and Nelson hopefully make the PS. Good luck to Donnie A., will be rooting for him. A lot of people were rooting for Guidugli, so that’s cool. Just at the expense of Fendi kind of sucks.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I am surprised Guidugli made it, not because he didn't play well, it's just that he could easily be on the PS
but I guess he played so well he made himself necessary to the roster. Great for him.
Well,
I guess what it came down to is that he outplayed Fendi
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Fendi just needed more exp in College
and he could have been real good. He just doesn’t look at all like the complete TE Guidugli is.
He definetly blocked better than Fendi
I’d hate for that kid to blind side me.
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DX
Is DX on the roster or not… it didnt say he got cut, and it didnt name him on the wr’s… so what the hell :-)
Jabara Williams making the team is awesome
and as you said, it’s not as if he’s just some no talent player with heart, the guy can play.
Imagine how much better he'll be
With a year in an NFL weight room. JW plus 20 pounds = potential starter at OLB
Some colleges
don’t really want to put too much weight on certain players. USC even has a linebacker that’s currently no heavier than 210. Granted, he just moved from safety in the offseason, but they wanted speed at that position and that’s a school that’s known for beastly linebackers in recent years.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
RamChop's not gonna be happy that one of our 7th rounders made it....
….LOL!
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 3, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
yessir! i love this guys portential! glad he stayed.
by Mark Jaramillo on Sep 3, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm so happy that Jabara made the 53
I hope that Thad realizes that if he sticks 1 more year he will be #2.
Go RAMs !!!
Sad to see some familiar names go
:( Sad to see you go: Thad (PS?), Jonathan Nelson (PS?), George Selvie, Keith Toston
:| It was time to let go: Fendi, Donnie Avery, Renardo Foster, Dan Muir, Zac Diles
:) Thanks for your hard work: Jabara Williams, Ben Guidulgi, Dominique Curry,
Agreed
He did nothing n the season except keep Sam Bradford upright. Still scratching my head and wondering why.
I think Avery is good enough to be on an NFL roster somewhere, but there are definitely some myths attached to him
1) He is not a health risk: The guy just missed an entire season of football.
2) He’s a deep threat: No he’s fast, but it hasn’t translated yet. He’s only gotten around 12 YPC to date.
3) He has potential: He has never learned how to catch the ball without using his chest. He’s not getting faster.
Hell of a YAC guy though.
Browns
Pat Shurmur should be familiar with him. Everyone in the NFL knows the Browns need some help at receiver.
by Zoo on Sep 3, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Browns would be a good fit for Avery, and I think they'll be good in the near future
watching their preseason games you can tell Colt McCoy is legit.
Texans maybe? They need some one to compliment Andre.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
I think Pat woulld do good to pick up Avery
I’m not sold on him but I think he could do good in the right situation.
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Lewis cut?
I still say he can out play Feeley. Good to see J Williams and Guilidio (#41) make the cut :)
i liked muir
so darel scott made the team? Wtf!
My two favorite teams, the St. Louis Rams and whoever's playing the winers.
It isn't really a shock
but I am pissed about cutting Thad
I was surprised about Thad and Mardy and Avery....
….not a whole lotta other surprises / great losses though.
And I kinda like Giudugli, he’s a big horse who looks like he can block.
Gotta learn to spell that name though.
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 3, 2011 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
Guidugli...
right? Ben (Gwee-da-lee)?
"Huff will git 11 inter this year chris johnson will have 9 rout will have 13 inter this year Lamarr Houston is one of are top def sice huff tom kelly still has lot to lern seymour is giting up there on age but hes still gots 5 years in him raiders need howie long son Chris long from the rams" - Raiders fan
by Moneyy Mayweather on Sep 3, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's (Guh-Doo-Lee)
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 3, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it is Gueeeeeeeeeeee!!
(Gu Du)?
In the cool still quiet hours of night, you can hear Eagles players softly uttering love words to themselves while kissing their hands and arms. "I am the Dream team-I am the Dream team"
Really long Guidugli video
I recommend turning it to about 1:52 if you want to see an amazing 1 handed grab.
LEWIS
You know you win some and you lose some, so we wait to see if they were right , or our guys we are sad to see go should have been kept. However, don’t give me that crap about having a veteran,so we go with Freely. We all watched him play and compared to Lewis he just sucked. If God forbid something happens to Sam, Freeley is not going to save us from going in the toilet. Lewis just wins, and he hits his receivers in the hands, short or long, and no INT’s. Will he bail us out NO, but damm hes probably better than Kolb, Smith, and who ever Seattle plays.
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you kind of need someone not so distracted by learning the speed of the NFL game. Thad is more talented but it’s still a year too early for him to be given the back up role. If he doesn’t get picked up by someone else he’ll most likely be the back up next season… if not, well back up QBs are a dime a dozen.
by Sggladden on Sep 3, 2011 8:01 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Damm
I mean Kehl Fraley, Feeley, guess you must keep some players that are so bad, it makes the rest of the team look great.
I mean I was prepared to be shocked so I mean… (shoulder shrug) it is what it is brorams! Hopefully devaney has speaking with players of harvey dahl’s caliber in the sense of toughness! But fellas I mean I think that guidugli is going to show his ass off this season!
by Boy Yottic on Sep 3, 2011 7:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Good luck in the future to Donnie
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told y'all the rookie WRs were locks!!!!
Surprised we kept Curry but I like the decision. He is a ST beast. Clayton is a nice guy to have for insurance after 6 weeks
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
by Brick Top on Sep 3, 2011 7:37 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
I agree, and because of his unfortuneate circumstances, we dont really know what his ability is as far as
catching passes and running routes. I love the way that man blocks though.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
So broram let me ask u this, if he shows promise come this season do we cut ties with bajema?! I say cut him if guidugli out performs him & pick up sum undrafted talent cause draft wise I want all D but alshon/floyd in the 1st!
by Boy Yottic on Sep 3, 2011 7:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I honestly havent thought that far ahead about it...from this point on of course it becomes
much more difficult to predict because of things like injuries which with the history of Ram receivers, there will probably be some of them…at least for curry, he might get a couple plays in games in the regular season and see what he is made of.
All that being said, I think next draft is actually time to get a WR with the first pick…if that isnt there, then probably need to draft an RB…then I am good with all D for the Rest
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
I don't know if it's the Alcohol but Curry
has the size, speed and strength to become a good pass catching TE
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6' 2" 220 lbs
yep it’s the alcohol, not way he would be a midget TE, how in the hell would he be able to block an NFL DE?
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
when I wake up I'll retracked this statement.
But he can throw a good block. When you think about it, if your 260 LBS and don’t know how to block, I would rather have the pitbull on my side.
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The same way Guido did .... You knockem on their ass just like he did.
The next quarter on they start to hear footsteps.
Go RAMs !!!
Guidugli is 6' 1" 230 lbs
and Curry is listed at 6’ 2" 224 lbs. It was still the alcohol talking and I don’t think it would happen but it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.
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by moy on Sep 5, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The final roster will change
I see Clayton starting and DX on PUP, he is going to get his knee cleaned up and be available for the last half of the season during all of our division games.
can't PUP DX
Cause he has been on the active roster
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
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by Brick Top on Sep 3, 2011 9:17 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Thadeus was the only head scratcher in my opinion.
I think he would have been a good back-up for Sammy. I hope they put him on the PS. He deserves a shot based off of his preseason play. I felt he offered the team the best chance of winning games in Sam’s absence.
On another note, y’all have all heard me be pretty abusive about Donnie Avery. I called him a one-trick pony, worse injury risk that DX, a draft bust, etc. I think the GM and coaches made the right decision in letting him go. One decent preseason doesn’t erase 3 years of disappointment. I know a lot of you will point back to his rookie year, but do you hear Philly fans saying the same thing about to D. Jackson? Nah, he’s out there every game, special teams as well as in the starting lineup being a game-breaking threat. Good luck Donnie. Hope you can put it together with another team and have more success there than you had here.
Yeah I think
Thad is definitely going on the practice squad if he clears waivers. I don’t mind keeping Feeley this year since he’s proven. We haven’t seen Thad compete against the first-stringers and instead of mentoring Bradford, Bradford will have to take time mentoring him.
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by loyal2therams on Sep 3, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
P Carrol has a thing for Spags.
Because we took Our O C first. He will try to mess with us anyway he can. He gets rid of Ta-2-pu & then picks up Vabora. You can kiss goodbye T Lewis just for spite.
Go RAMs !!!
Yeah the guy did like every thing you would dream about a player doing to "show you something".
He played the preseason like it was the friggen playoffs.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
He played like he wanted the job.
Free lee goes out in Jax at the end of the first quarter, & throws an INT that my baby sis wouldn’t have thrown. Fo screwed that one up!!!!!!
Go RAMs !!!
Honestly, the comparisons to DJax are getting REALLY old
Yes, Avery sucks compared to Desean. Yes, we made a mistake. But continuing to look back on where we fucked up is just hurting the team now. Keeping Alexander over Avery is a stunning, stupid move. DX is not as fast, not as good of a route runner, is far more injury prone, and, honestly, didn’t seem to be trying nearly as much as Donnie did to make the team.
DX should have been the LAST one to make the team. Even Gilyard deserved it more
I totally disagree.
What has Avery done since he’s been here in 3 seasons? Very little. I’d say DX has done just as much as him in his short tenure. DX may not have Avery’s 4.3 speed, but he’s close. Close enough for them to part ways with Donnie. DX and Clayton are our speed guys now. Last time I checked Avery spent a lot more time on IR than DX has and is chronically injured by week 6 of every season. I also disagree with DX being a worse route runner than Avery. First, Avery has had 3 season to learn route running 101 compared to DX’s half a season, and it took him every bit of 2+ season to learn how to run route. He’s still not a very good route runner and has a poor time getting seperation when he gets bumped at the line (the majority of times). Most of us agree that the Rams would have been 4-12 or 5-11 w/o DX playing in the games he played in. I think that went a long way in deciding which one of those two to keep. DX isn’t garaunteed a spot yet. We’ll see how things go when Clayton’s back, but two thumbs up with keeping him over Avery.
DX not trying?
Every time DX catches the ball it takes a guy more than 3 seconds to bring him to the ground and he is always fighting for extra yards.
DX main problems is the drops and that knee. The last thing im worried about DX is his work ethic because the guy plays his ass off when he’s in the game and is tough to bring down.
Sorry but saying he wasn’t trying as hard as avery (who also was playing hard) was just a slap in the face to me.
I have to agree with you
I understand all of the cuts, except for this one. Thadeus really really impressed me
by hr on Sep 3, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Justin blackmon showin off
Me likey
by Ram_Redemption on Sep 3, 2011 8:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Im so pissed they got rid of Avery...
obviously they dont play madden now all of our receivers suck lol
Lmao yea mcdaniels system is cool and all
But on madden u need those deep threats or its blitz blitz bitz
by Ram_Redemption on Sep 3, 2011 8:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we'll see an addition or three this week, so no telling who from today may not be here in a few days
Hopefully we pick up a CB, OLB, C and G…and Adam Weber as a backup QB :-) I think a few of today’s cuts were as much about Cap room as quality of player. Any CB we add that can start right away will cost us $$$. Another S wouldn’t be a bad idea either…
No CB..
we add will “stary right away” for us. Last I checked we still had Fletcher and Bartell out there and Al Harris at the nickel who has been playing well in the preseason and in practice.
Any guy we sign is competing with Al for the nickel.
Could also be money and they have a cheaper guy that can do the job.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
Possible. He did Lawyer Milloy, Tye Law and Mike Vrabel go before they were completely done.
But they were traded, not outright released. Something’s amiss. Bellicheat squeezes every bit of life, use or value outta everyone.
I'm going to ease back, wait a few days and see what happens...
I can see NO logic in some things that happened today. A $2.2M fossil like Feeler over Lewis. If Sam ever has to come out, Feeler can run right in and throw an INT. Sheesh!
Keeping DX and cutting Avery. Alexander should wear a label on his uniform that reads like a gallon of milk; “Good thru Oct 15th, 2011” (if lucky). The statement that McD doesn’t value “speed” in his offensive scheme is about as ludicrous as the one we heard last year that “Spag’s defense doesn’t rely on OLB’s.” lol. If we’d had somebody besides Grant, Vobora and Kehl there last season we’d be defending NFC West champs.
Keeping Kehl, Fraley, Scott, Gary Gibson, Chamberlain, King, Curry and a few choice others for ANY reason. Yecch! Only so many people can play ST’s exclusively. My guess is they’re just place-holders till we see who all decent got cut from other teams.
by RamChop on Sep 3, 2011 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I do not like him because he's unreliable. BUT, he was not on my "Chop List." Somebody with the Rams loves him.
AND, he might just be a place-holder for Clayton.
You know I can make a Moy's chop list
and insert every player on the roster to date and eventually it would come to fruition. I can cut it down to every person not pro bowel quality and it would come to fruition sooner. I can cut it down to everyone that’s not a starter and it would come to fruition even sooner. It doesn’t make me some sort of fortune teller it just means I can read and write. Your chop list is lame, some hits, some misses. My dog could do that and he’s as hard headed as you.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
by moy on Sep 3, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hehehe
my fingers get out of control sometimes.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
I have to agree with you moy
people have really overrated Chop’s list. If it were up to chop we would cut everyone not a starter and be left with 25 guys
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
we have never said that Vobora would be a starter
or that Selvie would not be cut, so HA
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
that post said he would get a chance to compete
and he did
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
You and you're dog try it and see how successful you are... my guess is that the dog fare's better than you.
Like it or not, the Chop List was pretty darn accurate. Examples: key people on this site were talking about Vobora starting at OLB several weeks ago, but he’s chopped. Everybody loved Selvie, but he was too small and thus, chopped. And, things aren’t done. Lotsa folks thought they’d never cut 4th round pick Gilyard – he’s axed. There’s still a possibility that clowns like Kehl, Feeley, Fraley, Scott and King get axed when we find decent castoff replacements. As far as few out on a limb picks like Brandon Gibson, I’m still waiting to see him actually perform in the regular season vs camp or pre-season games. We may find out he ain’t for real and that we need a true #1 receiver. Like I said, try it yourself before being so critical.
by RamChop on Sep 4, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DX is a bum
can’t catch and can’t run a good route. he is a liability and the front office is so retarded. They prolly cut players today by throwing darts on a dart board. I guess we are lucky they didnt land on Sam or Sjax. We cut the best receiver we had on roster today.. And they expect to win this season, bs. He’s gonna be a beast in the future and DX will be unemployed, whenever the blinders come off.
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a guestion if the FO is so retarded, do you not like Bradford? JL? our line? you do know they mad all those decisions… Just because you dont see DX’s potential dos nt mean the rams arent improving.
its so hard to choose a qb for the first pick when your teams qb asked to be released
they hit on the easy stuff. i have no faith that these guys can actually evaluate talent unless it hits them in the face
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
so..
The Saffold pick was a no brainer? Bradley Fletcher out of nowhere in the third was a no brainer? Lance Kendricks this year was a no brainer?
For every good pick this FO has made there's two bad or questionable picks?
Start with Jason Smith, our vastly overpaid under-performing RT (supposed to be LT). Then go on down the line; Scott, Milyard, Murphy, Davis, Null, Selvie, Obog, Foster, Onobun, Pettis, Salas and already 2 rooks this year. Finally, IMO Corey Liuget would’ve been the better choice over Robert Quinn. That’s alotta misfires. And, remember that in 2009 and 2010 we were picking 2nd and 1st overall, i.e. we had first shot at BPA.
um, you mean that all of the 1st and 2nd picks have been great?
and the 3rd and 4th round picks have been hit and miss?
and the 5th-7th rounds picks haven’t been very good?
and most of the rookies aren’t up to speed yet?
DO YOU KNOW HOW THE DRAFT ACTUALLY WORKS??
No, tell me how it works.
Absolutely I’m saying #1 pick in 2009, Jason Smith, was not even a good pick. In fact, the only great picks appear to be JL, Sam, Saffold and maybe, just maybe, Kendricks. That ain’t too good for three years of picking 2nd, 1st and 14th overall.
0:0 Ratio... Yeah I would say that is pretty good.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
honestly, truely, I think you don't understand football
We only got - no one does. I really think you just don’t get it.
A franchise quarterback
Franchise, bookend OT’s
A stud MLB
Extremely promising young CB (Fletcher), pass rusher (Quinn), and TE (Kendricks)
all in 3 years. In other words, we filled (or at least have very promising players in) almost all the most valuable positions. in 3 years. Sure they didn’t hit on every pick -
Don't ever kid yourself into thinking YOU know a fraction as much about pro fb as I do.
I already explained that we had over 20 picks, from the Catbird’s seat of 2nd, 1st and 14th overall, the last 3 years and we came away with VERY few stars and many many misfires. Smith is a $33M soft-headed “average” NFL “bookend” RT. He was chosen 2nd overall. The choice for #1 in 2010 was either Bradford or Suh. No way to go wrong there. But since we didn’t get Mike Vick for chicken feed when he was 1st available, and Marc Bulger was washed up, we needed a QB worse. But don’t forget who won ROY. Neither Quinn, nor Kendricks has proven zippo yet. Although I suspect Kendricks will exceed expectations and Quinn will not meet expectations. Luiget was the best pick instead of Quinn. Fletcher? Not exactly a pro-bowler, huh? As I said earlier, except for JL, Sam and Saffold, pretty darn weak success rate for draftees. Especially for the top positions in 2009 and 2010 that we drafted from…
you mean the Robert Quinn
that most people pegged as the best DE available in the draft. Let’s not judge him at this moment and wait untill maybe the end of the season. The guy was a beast in college. Not saying that means he will instantly dominate in the NFL. Give him some slack though, he was out of football for a year. i think he will grow into a fine player as the season goes on.
thanks
i just can’t believe how fast some people can judge players. They’re rookies, they will make “rookie mistakes” Players need time to develop and grow.
Jamarcus Russell also said
“I LOVE PURPLE DRANK”
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
And he was as big as his offensive linemen.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
Russell was a very extreme case.
Most guys don’t come back after their first year weighing 300 pounds as a QB either
He couldn't read. Oh he was lazy too.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
The day before he got cut Mardy said he just finished learning Shurmur's playbook.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
too bad for Gilyard though
I think if he put in a little more effort, he could be a pretty good player.
Yeah but until then he will just be a bust.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
agreed
i just hate to see potential go to waste. most people will dream of playing in the NFL. If someone actually gets a chance and screws up because of poor work ethic, that’s just sad and stupid.
Jerry Rice said things like that about Moss.
He worked hard to make up for his physical abilities and too see some one like Moss with such physical ability not care and not try was a “slap in the face”
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
Gilly should also not be brought up in the same sentance
as Russel and/or Quinn.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
these guys shouldn't even be brought up in the same breath
shame on you, you’ll be eating you words about Quinn.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
No Chop he was still a product of his environment!
I’d love to take him for one week to Paris island & straighten his ass out !!!!!
Go RAMs !!!
Sgt Fury couldn't straighten Gilyard out in a year...
Ya gotta have something to work with upstairs to play in the NFL.
I ain't most people. And I ain't giving him a year bye because he violated college rules and wasn't allowed to play fb.
That goes to show the Spag’s 4-pillars crap really doesn’t mean anything when they want somebody. Quinn reminds me of Jason Smith – way over-hyped by the fb pundits. Liuget was the better pick.
You've clearly never seen Liuget play.
When I watched tape, I was left wondering why he was a 1st round prospect. Not kidding. God context is everything and you have none with Quinn.
What are the four pillars again and which one did he violate? Honestly wondering…
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 4, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't sit around and watch alotta tape.
But I watched Quinn fall on the ground more times in 4 pre-season games than I ever recall seeing any D-Lineman hit the turf in my life. And what happened to this speed off the snap? He looked way behind the other 2nd and 3rd stringers most times to me. Maybe you should rewind and look a little closer. James Hall must be sleepin’ like a baby cause this guy ain’t gonna grab the old man’s job anytime soon.
How come they didn't teach him the basics in HS or college ya suppose.
Course he didn’t play a senior year in college.
He has more to learn than any of the top draft pick defensive players.
he has a long way to go. Anyone thinking he’ll be a star within two years is going to be disappointed. He’ll track like Long has. The better the D around him, the better he’ll be. A good OLB on his side would help too. If he could pin his ears back and not have to worry about the run, it would help
It's too early to rate any of this year's DT or DE prospects
Liuget has played waaaay more snaps than Quinn. I’m not sure if I like the idea of Quinn only being a situational player. If that happens then Chop is right
what tape did you see? his pee wee vhs tapes? have you seen luiget play at all this preseason?
the dude is a freakin monster! beating double teams all day, quick off the snap, and strong as an ox. thats why he was a first round prospect.
by Mark Jaramillo on Sep 4, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DX's potential
you mean his potential to play volleyball on the sidelines. His catching performances are so laughable. the guy really can’t be counted on for anything.. the only thing you can count on is that he will end up in a wheel chair
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
what you a GIlyard fan??? you can always hope he signs somewhere. What you mad you had Mardy on your fantasy team?
Avery is the cut that really blows me
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and his drops that caused us a division
he simply can’t catch or run routes.
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That is how rookies work
but also note that if it werent for dx, would wouldnt have been in that game in the first place. We definitely wouldnt have beat the broncos, chargers or 9ers without his bombs away contributions.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
Wow, are we watching the same games?
What did Avery do last year? The best receiver on the team as you so put it has spent more time on injured reserve than DX. Last time I checked DX won directly contributed to at least 3 wins last year. I’d dare say we would have lost all 3 games w/o him.
by Da Rams! on Sep 3, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
last I checked dx was signed last year
and Avery only missed one season
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
no, we lost games because of are inability to stretch the field and our tendency to throw the ball 5 yards at a time. The fact that we blame a rookie WR to bail us out on 2 deep throws is laughable. Lets just hope we dont expect that from Pettis or Salas to win the division
we have noone to stretch anything this year
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I expect if a ball is thrown correctly that the receiver come down with it
I don’t care who you are or how long in the game you are. You have to CATCH a ball
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
compare avery and alexander's stats.
find proof that avery is more sure-handed, and catches the ball at a better percentage clip. then everyone will be quiet.
by RedbirdAvenger on Sep 3, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
And we lost games because of him
balances out
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Seattle? It takes a team to lose a game, not one player.
Lets say I give you that one. He lost us one game. Well he helped us win us 3 games last year. So he’s 3-1 when playing in games w/ the Rams. How many games did A0very directly contribute to last year?
3 games. what games were you watching
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets see...
San Diego 4 catches, 72yds 1TD.
Denver 4 catches 95yds.
San Fransisco 6 catches 99yds.
He did this while nursing that injured knee. Avery had his chance. Give DX a shot before dissing him. Thats the least you can give him.
I hope more than anyone that he makes it. He clearly has the potential to be the best receiver on the team. But he’s never gonna be healthy, and he is either hurt again, or just played lazy throughout the entire preseason.
And he has hands of stone
Thats nit fair to avery
His surrounding cast licked ass, put him on last years team and we are in the playoffs, the hype ya put into dx is laughable….
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 8:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ha i actually ment to say
Sucked ass but the point was still given lol
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 8:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You gotta play to be a factor... period.
Supporting cast wasn’t great, but he’s usually injured when going gets tough.
Actually last year ws the first year he sat out
Extensively, can you say that for dx? Talk wat you know bro
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Avery's been injuries throughout his career.
Can you guys say that Avery’s a Ironman? Avery missed a game his second year. I was wrong about the him missing most of year two. DX was only with the Rams for 10 games. What history do you have on his pro career beyond that? Not saying DX isn’t an injury risk, but dude was a factor when he played. Thats even considering he was a UDFA coming to the team later in the season (no training camp), was still nursing a pretty bad injury, and knew very little about the playbook. Its pretty unfair to compare him to a player that was with the team for 3yrs.
Bottom line
He shouldn’t have been picked over avery, he’s the biggest injury risk on the team and the possibility of him lasting the whole year is slim to none.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And that prediction holds tons
Of water…
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Na my other one came true so im good
Don’t cry when he gets injured
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I can cheer all i want
Just like I can voice my concern when I don’t think something is wrong, free country….
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Real Bottom Line
The Rams cut Avery because he was a second round bust. Blazing speed, but that speed never translated to points on the board. Heck, its not even reflected in his stats. Too much cap money for too little results.
His first two seasons were solid
DX is good for one or two catches every 4 games
Sick of always telling people "next year", ready for next year to become this year.
Really?
2008 15 games, 53 catches, 674yds, 3TDs.
2009 16 games, 47 catches, 589yds, 5TDs.
You call that solid? I’ve seen slot receivers with better numbers than Averys first 2yrs.
That is pretty good production with bulger at QB.
2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
BTW.
Avery averaged 3 catches a game during his best year. Thats starting. Three catches a game. DX was a bench player last year that didn’t even appear in some of the games he was there to play, so that 2 catches a game statement is misleading and unfair.
Actually his first seseaon
he played 15 games and battled, I believe it was, a high ankle strain, for most of the yr. His second yr, a lot of Rams faithfuls, put his inept out put on Bulger, Boller and Null but when the ball hits you in the hands you should catch it and that was Bulger’s problem his last yr, No one wanted to hold on to the ball including Avery, so this argument doesn’t help you one bit. His third yr he was a preseason stud until his knee turned into a dud. So he was hurt his first yr, didn’t want to catch the ball his second yr and couldn’t stay on the field his third yr. Why do you love him so much? Your like a fat girl that doesn’t want to give up on a guy that tried to get his fix Stop already. It makes you look needy.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
by moy on Sep 4, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
It's clearly just people that watched a ton of him at Mizzou
I understand how much potential the man has, but he just isn’t gonna cut it in the NFL. His body will just continue to betray him.
I don’t think I know more. I just think I am less enamored with his potential, and more looking at the reality of the situation. He’s had 5 knee surgeries already. I can’t think of a single athlete in any sport that has gone through that and come through with more than just flashes.
Remember, the Rams are also saying that he is hurt again now. He had a whole offseason to rest the knee…no camps, no OTAs…and he didn’t make it through the preseason without it flaring up.
Risk vs Reward
DX is more of a risk but unlike Avery who would strictly be a back up DX can be implemented into more of what we are doing with schemes… he’s big, fast and athletic. throw him out there with MSW and you’ll get a mismatch. Avery, while fast, just seemed to be a bit easier to defend. Also there was zero chance he’d be here long term so they chose the gamble of keeping DX in hopes he’ll wreck a few games and contribute to a few more Ws. I was surprised because I thought they were high on Avery but it would seem this was a smoke screen to try and work a trade.
by Sggladden on Sep 3, 2011 9:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sayin' you're wrong, I'm not sayin' your right.
But dude deserves a chance before people throw the book at him. Theres plenty of data that says Avery’s not going to be what the Rams had hoped he’d be when they drafted him early in the 2nd round, but DX should at least be given a shot before people say he’s a bum. He played hurt last year. Thats the key. With a bad knee he played, he wasn’t making excuses.
I think the Rams have planned for that also as Clayton will
be coming in mid season.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
They wouldn't have cut Avery if they only planned
to keep Alexander 6 games. They’ll cut who they want to cut when Clayton comes back depending on who can help the team. If Danario produces, he’s safe. If he doesn’t, maybe they decide he’s the guy to get cut, but there’s not really a plan right now on who to cut.
No of course not, I didnt mean to say that was why they took him
I faulkner is on the money…Donnie is a faster but worse route running version of MSW and Gibson. DX gives the Rams height and break away speed. I think its really no skin of the Rams back to see if the DX missile has more denver/san diego games in him for the Rams this season. DX made no bones about he wants to play until he is running on a stump and I think the Rams will gladly oblige.
In the meantime, the other playmaker from last season is using his photo copying mind powers to memorize the MCD playbook.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
Donnie is nothing like MSW and Gibson
Avery is a deep threat. MSW is here for his red zone skills and Gibson is a move the chains guy
Sick of always telling people "next year", ready for next year to become this year.
Sorry, guess i dont remember Avery being Randy Moss, he s 5 10 and i cant remember him beating people downfield regulalry??
What I said is all relative
I guess you think Gibson and MSW are just as much as a deep threat as Avery. My bad forgetting DX was Randy Moss I must have been confused
Sick of always telling people "next year", ready for next year to become this year.
In Avery's rookie year
he had 8 catches of more than 20 yards in 15 games, DX had 4 in 8. Maybe if you had watched Rams games before Bradford signed you would have seen him play
Sick of always telling people "next year", ready for next year to become this year.
you my friend are an idiot, you can catch a 20 yard slant, I ve been a rams fan longer than youve han hair on your nuts so piss off
Lol
you are pathetic. For the record avery also had 4 40+ catches to DX’s 2. Keep talking out your ass tho, eventually you might trick someone into thinking you know something
Sick of always telling people "next year", ready for next year to become this year.
his first yr he had Hall Of Famer Holt Opposite him
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
by moy on Sep 4, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldnt say bum
But you are right he is a liability and should be gone by time Clayton comes back I hope, I don’t want to see this guy on the field late in the season when we need a clutch catch…. Week 17, yeech!
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 8:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Semantics, but..
A bum is someone who doesn’t try. Obviously, he works as hard as anyone. A bum is not a good word to describe DX.
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 3, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Mcdaniels has always had speed on his teams
Moss and Lloyd to name a few. Spags loves slow guys, probably makes him feel better that he can keep up during practice.
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That was funny! But uhm if spags has a scheme/plan for why he doesn’t recruit high on lb’s than I’m all for it! But its when that back fires is when my head hurts
by Boy Yottic on Sep 3, 2011 9:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Alexander should wear a label on his uniform that reads like a gallon of milk; "Good thru Oct 15th, 2011" (if lucky)."
This made me lol, one of your best Chopper. Gotta rec you for it even if I disagree.
Problem with that statement is...
everyone thinks that DX is a big injury. Thats true, but the same people act as if Donnie Avery is an Ironman out there. He missed most of last year. Both receivers are made of porcelain. One of them has contributed to 3 wins last year, the other spent his season in the sauna.
Avery only missed extended time last year
before that he played like every game.. Acl injuries happen to anyone. doesn’t make you porcelain because it happens. I guess Bradford is porcelain too
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea cuz he has had 5 knee surgeries like DX
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
…he missed zero games his second season. He had missed one game in two seasons until the ACL injury last year
Yet, you guys are saying DX is more fragile than him?
DX played hurt last year. Its ironic that MyACLisBrittle has a picture of Avery on the ground with one of his injuries. Thats all the memories I have of him in a Rams uni.
My bad. You're mostly right. He played in 15 games his second yr.
But dude has never had more than 674 yds receiving in a season with the team as their starting WR. That was his rookie year. Thats horrible.
take into consideration DX had almost 400 in 5 games??? didnt look that up so im sure someone will correct that
Dx played a lot less snaps tho
by Ram_Redemption on Sep 3, 2011 9:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
checked it, he only Played 6 games & 2 of those games he only had 2 catches. so in 4 games he had over 275 take that afull season you get almost 1100 yards
Not sure where you are getting your stats, bro
He played 8 games. He just didnt record a single catch in two of them, but was targeted once against NO and 4 times against KC. He was pretty much feast-or-famine last year
Not really, he was a rookie and the because of his knee
issues in college, spags wouldnt let him play in the begining of the season because he wanted DX to get his leg back to a specific diameter before they cleared him to play at that point DX never played a full 60 minutes of football. He was only ever in a game for a handfull maybe 10 to 20 snaps.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
Me?
what I got to lie for I liked both players? I jus remember them sayin he,only plays 20 snaps per game
by Ram_Redemption on Sep 3, 2011 9:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude, your comparing apples & oranges here.
Avery had 16 games, a whole training camp that year, had the offseason to learn the playbook, and was injury free when he did that. None of that was true for DX last year.
Not only that, but
DX came to the team later in the season, was still nursing that pretty bad knee injury, didn’t know most of the playbook, no preseason to get ready, etc. Five games he did that in. I don’t get how the Avery apologist think he should have stayed over DX.
STOP with the three wins BS
He was a big contributor to us winning in the game against San Diego. That was it. He had other good games, but wasn’t responsible for any other wins in any way shape or form. And he was as responsible as ANYONE for the loss in Seattle
Dude its not BS, he had a 95 yard game in denver to which the Rams won by 3 points.
He was probably in the game less than 10 plays! Stop and contemplate that for a minute!
Donnie in for 10 plays targeted like 4 times…does he get 95 yards?
I’m not baggin on Avery and if the Rams had chosen to go the other way…I would certainly understand that move also. It is a tough choice. But also know that taking player that explosive and living with his knee problems is not that illogical either..especially when Avery counts 1 million against the cap…sucky, but probably factored into the decision as well.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
Because the FO is stuck on
cutting all the old regimes players. Thats the real reason.
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
we had a few good players
I guess that makes spags feel uneasy
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess Jackson is coming soon too
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 3, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Im a huge dx fan but
avery coulda been useful
by Ram_Redemption on Sep 3, 2011 8:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the biggest reason Avery got cut is he’s the same type of player as Gibson & MSW prob faster but not as good as route runner or hands. DX offers speed and height. He can be used asw a role player till hes at full health & he proved last year he can make plays when hes on the field
+1 that is exactly why
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
that milk line is pretty damn good
If it’s yours, much respect.
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by 3k on Sep 4, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
he looked pretty well done in Chicago
and then if the Colts cut him, probably he doesn’t have anything left
a LONG while back
his career was ended by injury. Sad, was a great player
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Front office has been on a roll this offseason and I trust wat they r doin
by Ram_Redemption on Sep 3, 2011 8:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I’m with u sir, I mean I for one dig the guidugli staying put as well as the williams staying because they have performed! brorams like I’ve stated before I truly think we need a new guys in our scouting department as well as mcdaniels being removed from the draft room after we give him alshon or floyd because I am sick to my stomch tired of seeing us fail late in the draft! There is talent out there in the 4 to 7th rounds and we don’t succeed! Don’t get me wrong we have nailed it on 2nd round picks but if were gonna go out & draft “projects” and miss out on kendall hunters & ross homans (osu backer) than we might as fukin well not be given picks! The draft is important & signing undrafted talent is important but to me the guys running that area in the FO doesn’t realize that! That is why the big time free agents see thru us because we don’t or haven’t shown the drive!
by Boy Yottic on Sep 3, 2011 9:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lewis to the front office would be great...
but as a back up QB Feely is definitely the right choice…we could actually win a few if Bradford is out for a game or two
poor move
dx over avery—-what were they thinking—-but if you look at a thread from yesterday YOURS TRUELY CALLED IT --RIGHT AGAIN
No because your caps lock is broken and you're a douche.
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That's the first time I have said douche on this site or even called you one.
Don’t you look like an ass now.
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jswirb try to deal with the future, cutdown day has come & gone. Let bygones be bygones
We have talked that shit since Jan 2011. Try letting it go we now have a team.
Go RAMs !!!
dx is the BIGGEST INJURY RISK ON THE ENTIRE TEAM
AND WE KEEP HIM —I DON’T GET IT
He caught 118 catches for 1700+ yards, 17TDs
His last year at Missouri. You don’t have those stats with sheet rock hands. Give him a chance.
Red Zone
DX will be a bigger threat in the red zone. With his knee he is more a situational player. Until he gets injured (?) he’s as nearly as fast, has better hands, runs better routes, plus he is 6’5". With Jackson, Kendricks, Amendola, we are scoring in the Red Zone, fewer field goals.
6' 5" and can jump!
Against a lot of defenders this makes him undefendable with a properly thrown jump ball… and Sam can throw. Just hope he can stay productive playing through the knee issue. I won’t say keeping him isn’t a risk but obviously he’s got a lot of talent and has the potential to have a big impact even in a limited role. Having Clayton waiting in the wings makes me feel better about keeping DX over Avery or Gilyard. All we can do is hope the gamble of keeping more of a situational player pays off. Whether you like the move to keep DX or not I think we should all agree he has shown a lot of guts and determanation to even be in the situation he is in. Let’s just hope for the best. I’d really like to see him overcome the odds.
by Sggladden on Sep 3, 2011 10:41 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
WHATS WITH SPAGS ---HE LIKES THE SLOW GUYS
WE NEED SOME BURNERS
I THINK DX CAN MAKE SOME BIG PLAYS---BUT NOT ON A CONSISTENT
PROFESSIONAL LEVEL….MUSING OVER LAST YEAR
Would absolutely LOVE for the Rams to pick up Joselio Hanson
Not sure of NFL rules on cut players. If you sign a cut player is a unrestricted FA or do you have to pay him what his previous contract was?
YES BEEN SAYING THAT
FOR A WEEK --HE WILL NOT SIGN WITH RAMS —-WHENEVER FO drags their feet they sign somewhere else
I don't know but I would love for us to get him.
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The Rams have a way in
“Hey, Remember that team that just cut you? You can beat them next Sunday if you like. Just sign right here.”
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 3, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
HOW DO WE BEAT THE EAGLES NOW THAT THe roster is complete
i hope avery dosen't end up
on an nfc west team and comes back to bite us in the butt—-think we should have kept him —if he did decent could have trded him for a draft pick next year
WE Play
Cad Williams over Jackson. Seems much quicker to hit the hole, is more elusive. Hope I am dead wrong, but Jackson looked like he had a lumber wagon hooked to his butt. Cad did good with both the starters and the seconds.
Yea i agree
Especially on screen plays. I think we have a better chance on 3rd downs with him than sjax. I say we ground and pound and hit them with some play actions and screen passes. On defense pound vick into the ground and were good.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you say so......
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 10:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Get over it....
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yes, but you see, preseason games are much much much more different from regular season games
Unlike Jackson, Cadillac’s trying to really impress in the preseason to secure that #2 job. Jackson’s just playing it cool and practicing running the plays; especially, he’s making sure he doesn’t get hurt.
by hr on Sep 3, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a possibility
Later in the season, not in game one. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jackson dominates this season or if he doesn’t have it and Cadillac is our top RB. We’ll just have to wait and see.
practice squads eligibility
Damario Ambrose, Tim Atchison, DeMarco Cosby, Tae Evans, Marlon Favorite, Pete Fleps, Cody Habben, John Henderson, Kevin Hughes, Randall Hunt, Thaddeus Lewis, Greg Mathews, Jeremy McGee, Ryan McKee, Jonathan Nelson, Fendi Onobun, Chase Reynolds, Van Stumon.
Fendi and Thad will probably be picked up by someone else
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
No
i think SJ is alot faster than he looks, he eats up yards just dosnt look like a burner
First that was the most awkward sentence ever
Second Jackson doesn’t fumble a lot so that doesn’t make sense.
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JSWIRB
the more you talk the more you show your ignorance, i honestly cant remember SJ fumbling
Not really. How many fumbles did he have last year 1 maybe 2
AP used to fumble into the double digits. Hell AP fumbled multiple times in the NFC championship and cost the vikings a chance at a superbowl ring and we all think he is hot shit and the best thing since sliced bread.
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Only fumbled
2 or 3 times last year which means he’s getting better
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 10:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Starting to agree with these statements more and more.
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we must not be in many key situations then.
Jackson has wasted his time with us when he could be anywhere else. Remember that lions game he single handedly won so the team so we wouldn’t go winless. Jackson is not going to get replaced by the caddy.
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i predict they will share time equally...remember csonka and kicke
on the 72 dolphins
yeah, and let's trade bradford and our entire defensive line
by hr on Sep 3, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
rarely
happens here and no one insists it be done.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Sep 3, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
a few of you do not know what you are talking about
jswird and snob to name two. and who was that earlier saying avery was always hurt and had done nothing for the rams?
New member here!
Cant wait to BS with all of you, hope to share mucho knowledge from all the way up in Montana!
91 For life!
no problem glad you are aboard----be glad to give my opinion any time
been pretty dead on the last few weeks as to who we would’nt and should have signed
Nice to meet you bro
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So Montana huh?
And a Rams fan with a name Ramrocker? Shouldn’t it be Sheepfucker? Since you are from Montana.
It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.
Dude way to welcome some one to the site. Call them a sheepfucker. Dick.
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its a Montana Idaho thing.
nothing but love for fellow rams fans except maybe ramchop.
It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.
let me be the first member of the TST staff to welcome you
we are a growing community and we are happy to have you on board.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
ok spags has been here for 2 losing seasons
how long will he get
Are you fucking serious
Guy is helping rebuild a team that was dead.
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Ok if ron rivera the new coach in carolina doesn't win the NFC south this year he sucks and should be fired
You are an idiot.
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OH BUT THE NFL IS ABOUT "Instant winning"
Shut your fucking mouth you dumb fuck.
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weren't we a 2 win team that beford spags
sure we went to one win but last year we were 7-9 and an inch away from winning the division. Now this year we are the favorites for the division. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
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You cannot count the first season, and it wasn't like we were loaded with talent last year.
This year though, ya we need a winning season
I was just saying
that the first season he couldn’t have won in the CFL with that roster
i think everyone should take a look at this...
pretty impressive, considering it was months and months ago.
well done, JTPirate.
sad that this happens a lot here
really frustrating at times.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
I wouldn't put it down as hate
but as emotion. Some people can’t get passed what they would rather have than what is best for the team.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
it's the fact that people don't' think before they post
and a lot of the time that make them come off as a arrogant ass
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
All to true
but what I don’t like is when they’re wrong they’re the last to admit it. Some here would rather wish ill will on a player just to make them right and that’s just not cool. I used some F bombs earlier in this thread because of the hatred that I can’t understand. I would apologize but still stand by my words.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
That is because you are a blind delusional ass hat.
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Vick has nothing to do with anything right now so why bring him up.
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Yet again you bring up Vick and just have nothing to say but something hateful about the man.
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which has nothing do with football
What’s wrong with a man owning up for his mistakes and trying for redemption? I can’t say I like the guy but I wouldn’t begrudge him the chance for redemption. I doubt you’ve ever been into dogfighting but can you say your perfect?
Ok that is a fine opinion but why do you need to bring up nothing but OH VICK HAD DOG FIGHTS!
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jswirb for someone who has been around the block ( according to U ), I don't think you have.
It’s a medical device.
Go RAMs !!!
people all over this blog disagree but when i state my opinion some
of you guys get crazy ….
You opinions are backed by nothing, caps lock, constant hate speach against certain players (vick)
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Maybe not hate speech but the fumbling gripe made no sense.
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thats not hate---wishing ill on a person is hate for God's sake thats my opinion
on a human being playing a game…not hate
Probably shouldn't have made that plural
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Okay, can we all just stop talking about michael vick's issues for a sec?
He is not a ram and we are not an ethics committee.
Look, jswirb, I think people would appreciate your opinions more if you had something to back them up. So far most of your comments are just random suggestions which don’t make very much sense. I think people would take you more seriously if you had some stats or experiences that supported your opinions. Otherwise you sound like a politican.
by hr on Sep 3, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
why do you dislike someone who may have different opinions---and as i recall i
said clayton would be back because we needed him that my friend is called WINNING
NOW how do we beat the eagles
this subject has not come up—i think we can you guys feel we can’t thats why no one answers
i guess your blind because i said this already
Especially on screen plays. I think we have a better chance on 3rd downs with him than sjax. I say we ground and pound and hit them with some play actions and screen passes. On defense pound vick into the ground and were good.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 3, 2011 10:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Because of our new O & OC we will ....
Win the NFC West Crown with na 11 / 5 record. The D will also improve in all areas.
Go RAMs !!!
We throw and run the ball while stopping them from doing those things.
There Detail.
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Sam throws Steven runs and those guys on Defense hit people.
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I think we try to sign Plaxico,did you know Spags wanted him BAD, then we throw it deep all 4 downs, Theyd never stop us
you can laff-
spags did want him and i do think he could have helped us —now don’t get all worked up over that opinion i think sanchez was the winner there-my opinion
Hey you know what that opinion I don't have much against but
my rebuttal to that is that the risk is too high for something that may not have paid off. Two years in jail and multiple off field issues don’t want me to have him on our team.
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Not so much hateful,
but it seems the only players you lobbied for us to sign back when free agency opened up were literally only the flashy names without giving any of our guys a chance hardly. But the thing is, a lot of those guys didn’t start as big names. Every year it seems like someone comes along from out of nowhere to be a star. A lot of times it’s because they had several years to develope and come along. We could have a Sidney Rice or Vincent Jackson on the team and not even know it yet.
You also have to consider salary cap.
Think of the money some of those guys wanted and think of who we wouldn’t have signed if we got Rice, Jackson, Moss or Owens. The overall team is better this way.
no one will know if the risk would have been worth it ...risks/benefits
think the youn receivers would have benefited and takeb some pressure off them to perform immediately…and sam would have loved it …don’t kid yourself
When Plax starts getting into it with coaches and gets suspended then that will be great.
Didn’t you want T.O. Too? Yeah Sam will love getting criticized by T.O. for not getting him the ball.
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Because that's what he did in New York all the time.
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He did nothing but get into it with coaches.
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Here is the message for you one last time. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE VICK ISSUE BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL!
I know I don’t care about it. If you want to talk about it find another place for it. I don’t care what Vick did because it’s a non issue.
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it's like politics or religion
people have very different opinions on that subject and it’s an emotional thing as well. let’s try to stay away from this subject because it doesn’t have anything to do with footabll.
by hr on Sep 3, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a touchy subject.
It’s more how you seem to be focusing on what he did wrong rather than the football aspect. This isn’t a morality discussion we’re talking about football here.
ok guys gotta go -we have to respect each others opinions -its a long season
and i think we are gonna surprise a lot of teams if we can play time possession football and keep the defense fresh…and finally…FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK I SALUTE YOU………
LETS JUST NOT MAKE VICK --VIKTOROUS NEXT WEEK...GO RAMS
AND AC/DC ROCK
AC/DC does rock but you are ruining it. Didn't we have this disscussion a few days ago?
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You know what your ruining AC/DC with that sign off.
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Why is everyone here acting like insane, angry 12 year olds?
Don’t use hate language. Be civil. Seriously? It’s not that difficult.
Danario Alexander over Donnie Avery just doesn't make sense to me...
Avery outperformed him in preseason, he’s less prone to injury you’d think, and he’s more consistent. I’m worried that he’s going to go somewhere and light it up on us…please don’t go to Arizona.
Austin Pettis...show me what I've seen from you all those years in Boise St.
by ramswo85 on Sep 3, 2011 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Donnie Avery is definitely the most promising drop we've made since Atogwe
The dude was a pretty reliable catch, an above average YAC receiver, and a formidable deep threat. He’s got a lot of attributes that teams can use to make their gameplan loads more dangerous, but I’m pretty sure we don’t need danger in our gameplan, we need safety and more pillars………. This is just kind of ridiculous.
And for those cheering for DX over Avery, Avery is the better player right now. DX only got the call because he’ll be cheap while he’s not producing, he may become a facet that this team doesn’t have already (big power dude), and he’s young. DX isn’t of the caliber of top receiver’s no matter what you tell yourself. His routes are rounded (probably that knee or long stride), his hands are below par, he gets in good position to make catches but lacks the focus to come down with them often (but not always). A lot of these things can be worked on, but right now, other players don’t have those deficiencies (hence the frustration).
If I were a betting man, I’d say Avery’ll turn out better off than DX will…and Selvie will turn out better than Sims… slightly optimistic rationalizing approaching: But there is logic to keeping low income players so you can make moves on higher pay guys (like a CB). Even if Selvie and Avery are cheap now, renewing contracts can get pricey if your renewing contracts for better players at other positions at the same time :rationalizing over. So lets go win some games and forget about this already…or go get drunk, whatever works for you :)
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
it really is
this fuckin idiots will only keep 4 pillars guys which means the best suckups stay on the team. why use speed, its not a idea in mcdaniels plan we want guys who a lb can cover with no problem. what a terrible fucking day.
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
Did anyone else catch how Laurent Robinson lit up the winers Thursday?
6 rec
120 yds.
not too bad if you ask me.
All hope is lost when you let doubt creep in....
So was Scott Tolzien who I think out played Volek. That sounds similar.
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Does anyone have a good feeling about us landing
Joselio Hanson? I think we need an upgrade at CB, and fast
@ Ramrocker
are you sure you want to be a part of this?
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Sep 4, 2011 12:37 AM CDT reply actions
our front office is sooooooo fucking stupid
im drunk and i want to vent. DX and his glass knees over avery??? are you fucking kidding me?? avery was one of the most promising players in our group of fucking scrub wrs. he looked great in the preseason with the chance he was given. whyd they only play him with the scrubs? and never once put him out there with bradford? fucking rediciulous man. 4my hope for this season took a huge hit tonight. time to face facts. vick and the eagles will bend us over and rape us
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
Can't you be a bit more up beat?
We lose avery and every thing goes to hell in a handbasket.
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except for the eagles beating us
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Sep 4, 2011 1:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Sky Is Falling!!!!!
Get a grip the FO knows more than us, no matter how you look at it.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
by moy on Sep 4, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions
yeh sure
i bet they knew that L.robinson was a shitty WR last year but wanted to keep him around for fun.
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
+1000000000000000000000000000
i cant believe it
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
Danario Alexander
Could become a good wide out for us if he can stay healthy and consistent. 6’5 220 that’s a big receiver and he has some speed good hands and can win a lot of jump balls. I think he could become a #2 wide receiver if he put more effort into his aresenal.
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by J-RAD2 on Sep 4, 2011 1:17 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
And that's the problem...
I just don’t see this guy staying healthy. He’s had what? 5 surgeries on the same knee? Not only that, but I recall reading that he need a 6th or just play in pain? Why take that risk? We’d at least have a better chance with Donnie’s health than DX’s. I can’t see how this guy will last for 3 more years at this rate, but hey, nothing I can do. Hopefully, the FO is right about this…
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by 3k on Sep 4, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Was there a full moon last night? lol Some TST'ers got a touch exciteable... and looks like the trend is still going on based on the comment below this one?
I have no idea why I slapped together that little poems. I read all the comments and it fascinates me how passionate people can be. However well or ill founded…
F U spags and billy , hope sam has fun with gibson droping everything and no one being able to go more then 5 yards for a reception excpet DX who will be out after week 2 , lets get rid of our best playmaking WR becuz he aint a spags guy. wow i was praying when i got up that this wouldnt happen but i saw they hated him since they didnt give him a shot with sammy becuase they didnt want him to impress which he still did with the backups billy said it himself but spags has a little dick mentality we need a real coach and put spags as a D coach cuz thats the only thing he has ever done well he cant do any other thing at all. u stupid little fucks ruined this season for me jackson will once again have no room cuz we have slow as shit wrs who couldnt run a 15 yards route if their stupid life depended on it. thank fucking god for madden
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by G unit Rams on Sep 4, 2011 3:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I couldnt have said it better myself
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Sep 4, 2011 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions
That's some crazy shit G.
I don’t understand why Spags, a man who has spent more time in the NFL than anyone on this site, wouldn’t see it the same way you do. We should fire him and hire you, cause after all you probably kick ass on Madden video game football and those skills translate well into being an NFL coach or GM.
by RamsFan1979 on Sep 4, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeh that would be the best thing that could happen to the rams
he is a d coach trying to run a team but he has too many favorites , i am alittle more calm now but to think how we just release our best WR cuz he wasnt spags or MCDs guy, denver fans warned us of him he did release Hillis but i bet there was ppl like u who were denver fans and said " oooo he is a coach and ur not so shut up" coachs are just ppl that love football, i played in college and play and coach in europe yeh its no nfl but i know football and i know coachs who pick favs ruin teams, so kehl is better then diles? ben G is better then Fendi? CJ is better then selvie? freaking dom curry is more valuable then AVery ? how many ST specailists do we need when the new rules are in fav of less of them.
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the only reason kehl is on this tema is cuz he is spags guy , this guy is caugth out of position over and over and he isnt a good tackler he isnt good in coverage what the hell is he on the team for over diles or any lb even a udfa rookie would be better then him. for a guy that knows the system he doesnt look like he knows a damn thing when he is on the field
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and they kept
ben G over fendi lol , and D curry over avery haah this is fuckin hilarious , you guys will respond with ur overracting and the FO knows better because their daddies got them a good job in the NFL but really u guys really see no problem with these cuts selvie instead of CJ why? selvie is better in every way. thad over feeley? why cuz they seem to love pickign the old guys who wont do shit instead of young potential guys.
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Are u fucking 12?
God damn get a grip you sad little man. Did i fucking they cut Andre Johnson or was it Donnie Avery? Im confused.
I thought Avery was the guy who has never had over 13 yards a catch average or over 8 touchdowns in 2 full seasons.
Chill the fuck out and get a grip. Guys like you never fucking learn. Wait and see before flipping shit over something…
Got damn its like spanking a kid after he wouldnt stop crying over the toy he wanted.
yeh 6'4 280 pound D/O linemen Bitch
this site is here for venting when things like this happen. i didnt feel like punching a wall so i did this if u dont like it F off. watch what avery will do u idiot. his first 2 years stats compare with a lot of great WRs and he was only hurt one year so WHY does it make sense to cut him. just cuz u guys are in love with gibson who has shown me enough to be scared shitless for sam and SJ
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Only slight downer for me is that the rams game is on at the same time as the ravens steelers game. So ill be missing the ravens winning which is unfortunate. Predictions score wise for rams eagles ppl? I’m saying 24 17 eagles
by Marty McKeown on Sep 4, 2011 7:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
feel free to watch your OTHER favorite teams
it’ll either be 6-3 or 9-6, Steelers. Consider yourself spared…….you’re welcome
And your prognostications for this site’s team stink!
Please don't take this the wrong way
but why are a lot of people acting like we just cut Issac Bruce?
I’ve never been impressed with Avery, and he just wouldn’t fit the new offensive system anyway.
The Rams tried to trade him, and brought no interest.
Few weeks into the season and his name will dissapear from comments here.
Best wishes Donnie unless you go to Seahags, Whiners or Birds… or any other team we face this year.
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my point is.. it was a toss up
Avery didn’t impress… DX has injury concerns.. I donno, just seems like we’re arguing over the same bread crumb that fell from the table.
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And by signing Clayton to the PUP
it seems like we expect DX to last six weeks, as Chopper said (Oct 15th shelf life)
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Yeah this is exactly my thoughts..
you can easily justify any decision to choose one over the other.
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i love that doesnt fit system BS
6 catches for a td and i think like 17 YPC avg. this preseason. yeh he didnt fit well lol
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
We'll be okay with what we have for now.
MSW, Amendola, Gibson,
DX, Pettis, Salas,
D. Curry may be the one eventually let go! Doesn’t matter now, because it is what it is!
Sam Bradford has a ton of options now, with: Norwood, Cadillac and SJax.
However, I like Lance Kendricks. I think he’ll help Sam the most per the amount of blitz’s we’ll face. We have a lot of options to throw at people.
Dump off's, and working the middle of the field (TE's) will help us beat Philly!
All the special teams help was kept, to prevent “Punt-returns” from hurting us, because there won’t be many Kick-Offs returned this year, what with the new rules.
So let’s sitback and see if it results in DeSean Jackson “NOT” burning us for a long one Sunday!…Go Rams.!!
what ever happened
to punting it out of bounds to avoid big returns? i remember when ‘coffin corners’ were big in the nfl. that’s still legal isn’t it?
I'm so glad that my man D. Curry made the squad, again!
He will make the pro bowl as a special teamer, book it!
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