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2012 NFL Draft: All-Rams Mock, Edition One

The 2012 NFL Draft is just...eight months away, so it's naturally time to thinking about what the St. Louis Rams should focus on this year. Well, as resident draft underling to 3k, I figured I might as well start cranking out my weekly draft posts. I did these all-Rams mocks last season and they started some good conversation, so I decided to bring them back. I hope you enjoy them. A few notes and the draft after the jump (You can follow the draft year-round at Mocking the Draft).

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My first and only commandment about these is thou shalt not bitch about reading about the draft this early in thy comments. If you don't want to read draft stuff, just skip over this post. There are people who enjoy reading about this kind of thing so please don't complain. Anywho, to start off I decided what the rams' needs/wants are at this point in the season, and I came up with the following list (not in order) :

Backup QB (I miss you Thad)

RB (Sjax Caddy and Norwood are all getting older, and they aren't exactly the healthiest bunch)

Number one reciever

Speedy game changing reciever (some people might point out that McDaniels offense doesn't require a number one reciever or a speed reciever, but to those people I say look what he did with Randy Moss and pre-DUI manslaughter Donte Stallworth.)

a dependable TE not named Billy Bajema

DT (Robbins and Bannan are old)

OLB (Leber seems alright but we can't get away starting Brady Poppinga two seasons in a row)

CBx2 (Al Harris is old, Fletcher and Bartell both have had injury troubles, and Justin King is still Justin King)

So with these in mind, I present to you my first wildly speculative and totally inaccurate all-rams mock of the season.

1: Zach Brown, OLB, UNC: Brown is a speed demon at OLB, and he can cover and rush the passer like crazy. He is the perfect compliment to Laurinaitis in the middle. Oh, and to give you an idea of how fast he is, there have been reports that he can run a sub 4.4 forty.

2: Juron Criner, WR, Arizona: Criner is a beast that can move the chains, go deep, and make the spectacular catch to bail out Bradford every once in a while. He would be too good of a weapon to pass up.

3: Donnie Fletcher, CB, Boston College: Fletcher has size (6'1 200 lbs) and he can cover. I see no reason why he couldn't become at least a solid starter in the NFL.

4: T.Y Hilton, WR, Florida International: Hilton has blazing speed, and he could  provide the home run threat this offense is so sorely lacking. If you haven't heard of him, you will.

5: Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Still is a big run stuffing defensive tackle, who will probably end up going a round higher than this, but what the hell it's my mock.

6:  Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State: I'm going to be honest, I haven't seen Johnson play. However, he does have  size (5'10 195 lbs), and he was an all Big XII second teamer, so at this point I would want to take shot on him.

7: (from Browns in Greco trade): Kevin Koger, TE, Michigan: He's been a solid blocking TE for Michigan, and I suspect he was underutilized as a reciever in the Rich Rod offense. He could end up being a solid number two/blocking TE, which would be good at this point in the draft.

7: Jeff Demps, RB, Florida: Demps is a small back, but he has blazing fast speed and he is younger than Jerious Norwood so this would be a decent pick at the end of the seventh.

Well that's all for today folks. Give me some feedback in the comments.

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I think it will come down to best option in the first. I don’t think they will move up or down in the first round. But, I am on the band wagon of getting a #1 WR in the first round. I know you have a WR in the 2nd, but I’d rather go after the top talent. I mean c’mon we have missed out on top receivers in the last how many drafts?

by crashoveride01 on Sep 15, 2011 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 9:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, and I forgot...did you forget about Murphy coming back next year?

That is another CB and the talk around the grapevine was that he was doing pretty well this year until his injury.

by crashoveride01 on Sep 15, 2011 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

yes I did lol

but Harris will likely retire and Justin King is not good, so we still could use two corners

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by Josh Wehrle on Sep 15, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not as big on Criner as a lot of people

Of course, to be fair, I am incredibly pro-Foles. T.Y. in the fourth and late Demps?! Holy speed! And yes, Still can’t possibly last that long. I applaud your lack of realism for the sake of homerism. Isms!

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I like up to round 1.

I don’t like having two corners named Fletcher. That’s just confusing
I also don’t like Criner. He would take over as slowest Rams receiver on a crew of already slow receivers.
I like TY and Demps. The rest I just don’t know about yet

Guidugli > Bajema

by Carneros on Sep 15, 2011 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Well Fletcher can ball so I could deal with the confusion and

Criner is definitely faster than pettis. I could outrun pettis lol

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by Josh Wehrle on Sep 15, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Problem with Criner.

He has to prove that coming off an appendectomy won’t damage his potential. He’s had medical rumors swirling this entire summer and off season so it would be a huge relief to scouts and GM’s for him to put together a productive year.

Depending on where we pick the Rams would have to target Alshon Jeffrey, Dre Kirkpatrick and Justin Blackmon.

As much as I like Zach Brown, the Rams won’t select an OLB in the 1st. Not when you can target a Travis Lewis latter, or Keenon Robinson. Both would be solid professional OLB. There is also talk of Vontaze Burflict falling out of the 1st. It could happen, so I would actually rather take a shot at him in the 2nd and move him to the Sam backer spot. You then can still get a quality OLB while allowing yourself to address a much more valuable position in the 1st.

The 1st pick has to be a wide out or an elite CB. It can’t be any other choice. If that means trading up and gambling a 3rd or 4th round pick then fine. But they must target and get Jeffrey, Blackmon or Kirkpatrick.

I also like OL Cordy Glenn for the Rams in the 2nd or 3rd. He won’t go in the 1st unless he destroys it at the Senior Bowl and combine and he looks to lethargic and slow to play LT, he can play RT, but he would be best suited to play LG. Since Jacob Bell is on his last year of his contract (I would actually want the Rams to resign him) the Rams could target Glenn to take over for Bell from day 1.

The crazy Matt Millen in me wants the Rams to select Alshon Jeffrey or Justin Blackmon in the 1st and target Ryan Broyles or Jeff Fuller in the 2nd. I honestly don’t care if we go receiver 1st and 2nd round back to back. Bradford is to good to be wasting time throwing to this group of garbage we got on the roster this year. And since it doesn’t look like Devaney wants to buy a WR in FA, then we need to draft our starters.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

If Alshon is there in the first

there is no question. That’s automatic.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I say screw it, if the Rams have to trade up 3-4 slots to aquire him then that’s what they have to do. They must secure 1 of those 2 guys. They have to. They absolutely can not afford to walk away from the 2012 draft and not get an elite #1 prospect. I don’t like Floyd from Notre Dame and with his obvious off the field problems the Rams won’t touch him anyway. I don’t like Jeff Fuller as a #1, he’s a very good possession #2, but not a #1. The Rams have to, absolutely have to select Jeffrey or Blackmon. It can’t even be debatable.

I’m serious, if they don’t get aggressive in the 2012 draft and make a serious move for one of them, they will only be shoveling more shit onto the field for Bradford to throw to. And everyone knows the 3rd year for a QB is in large the most important year of his career.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big fan of Blackmon

It’s worth keeping an eye on Vincent Jackson in San Diego too. He’ll be a FA after this season. And should he get in the groove this week (almost had a nice TD grab in week 1), I think he’s primed for a big season.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Blackmon

because he is consistent, strong and can make plays. He tore Prince Amukamara up last year. I don’t like him as much as Jeffrey, because Jeffrey is a premiere possession receiver. He’s just bigger, stronger and more athletic than everyone else. And his hands are as big as catcher mits.

Jackson could be an out for the front office, trying to get someone in here who can make an immediate impact. But isn’t Jackson nearing that dreaded 30 year old mark? If so and the Rams have a top 10-14 pick then I want them to focus on Jeffrey and Blackmon, even if they have to jump up and grab them.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like signing FA WRs to big money

something about it seems iffy.

I say no to VJax, yes to Alshon and Blackmon.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can see it.

But I’m not a huge fan of it either. Don’t get me wrong, had we grabbed Santonio Holmes that would have been fantastic. But signing a FA WR can get tricky. Look at Sidney Rice. Obviously went there for the money and couldn’t care less about winning.

Oh and absolutely Jeffrey is the pick. I will single handedly riot by myself out at Rams Park if they don’t select him.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

bigger in weight, but certainly not height

The Cowboys system is incredibly vertical which often negates height, especially when you have someone who can identify the correct reads as consistently as Weeden.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

True, but he's play resembles more

Dez Bryant than Aldarius Bowman. Not saying he’s quite as naturally gifted as Bryant, but he isn’t a figment of the system like Bowman was.

I’m not saying that Blackmon is better than Jeffrey, but Blackmon is the #2 receiver in this draft. Fuller does have the vertical game that Blackmon does, he’s not nearly as fast, Crinor is slow and has had serious health concerns. Floyd is good, but major off the field concerns that could potentially lead to addiction.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

What is impressive about Blackmon is the size he plays with. He plays like a 6,5 guy, and he dominates DBs in aerial battles for the ball.

He also has semi decent routes, huge wingspan and great concentration when making grabs.

He’s also like a running back when in the open field and I see him as a shorter Brandon Marshall but with a better catch % percentage.

He’d definitely work in our system.

What we can’t allow McD to do is call for the drafting of someone like Demaryious Thomas… That was a terrible pick.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was gonna mention Floyd, but you beat me to the punch.

Couldn’t agree more that about the only thing we GOTTA HAVE is a #1 WR. With Murphy coming back next year we should (knock on wood) be OK at corner. The dropoff in WR talent from round 1 to round 2 is huge and its undeniably the most obvious position where we are completely void of talent. Pettis, Salas, Clayton and Amendola will be good secondary receivers in the future and will be good complements to a #1, but none of them are anywhere near a real threat.

Gotta give SAM the weapons to be great.

In the 2nd we could use a DT, RB and the inverse in the 3rd.

I’ma stick up for my boy Billy Bajema though. He’s nothing flashy, but every time I watch him, he catches the balls that’re thrown to him, gets tough yards and is quite reliable. He’s a good blocker to boot. I think he’s a great quality #3 TE and ST guy.

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 15, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clayton cannot be seen as a long term member of the squad

I love the guy, and appreciate what he did, but he has zero upside.

The best thing about him was his dependability and chemistry with Sam. Overall, we want someone who can directly influence a game at WR and Clayton isn’t him.
Small, not a blazer, injured knee, old and inconsistent hands…

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

That’s why I mentioned the Rams going all Matt Millen in the 1st 2 rounds. Go get Jeffrey and bring in Sam’s go to target at OU Ryan Broyles in the 2nd. Broyles is the slot, Jeffery is the #1 and Gibson is the #2. Amendola and Broyles can flip flop and be slot nightmares for defenses.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

what about Salas and Pettis?

do they not have futures in STL?

I’d avoid getting Broyles, despite the comfort factor, because we would then have like 4 slot guys.

My dream but realistic WR corps for next year would be:
Alshon Jeffrey
Danario Alexander
Greg Salas
Danny Amendola
Austin Pettis
Brandon Gibson

I’m a sucker for big WRs and I think that that’d be a well rounded, balanced WR corps with potential in bucket loads.

I really think Gibson can have a respectable year this year and entrench himself in the roster.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I say Broyes for a couple of reasons.

1st he’s just simply more talented than Salas and has more upside than Amendola. He has been ridiculously productive at a major program. He’s a projected top 5-7 wide out. in the 2012 draft and as of right now the #1 slot. Salas is more 5th receiver or 4th at best. Broyles could walk in from day 1 and actually compete with Amendola for the starting slot gig.

I think Austin Pettis, if he doesn’t prove anything this season, follows the path of Marty Gillyard. Alexander, as much as everyone like him becomes almost obsolete with Jeffrey around.

Plus it doesn’t have to be Broyles it could be Jeff Fuller, who would be a legit #2 wide out.

This all happens if, and it’s a huge if, the Rams decided to go receiver back to back like the Colts went OL back to back this past April.

Jeffrey + Fuller > Better than any combination of Jeffrey + anyone from the roster now.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Broyles

Yes from day one could most likely taj the slot spot he’s just better and has more upside…

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah I can see it

it’s just I think having invested in Salas already it should rule us out of Broyles unless the unthinkable happens.
I agree though, I like what I see of Broyles.

I’m hoping Pettis can do more than Gilyard. Gilyard had less upside. We could see in his first ever game in the pre season he just wasn’t physical enough to be an NFL Wide Receiver or kick returner.

He went down at the smallest touch, and while he showed a lot of heart he just couldn’t make guys miss, nor could he break tackles, nor could he catch too great. For a YAC type KR WR that’s an awful combo.

Pettis has way more upside and can be a red zone threat at least, although he is being hamstrung by having to learn 3 WR spots, just like Mardy was.

I don’t know enough about Fuller to comment.

About Danario… he may have a place opposite Alshon, mainly due to his size and cheapness. I think as a rotational WR he can do damage and be a matchup nightmare. We’d kind of equal the basketball team sized WR corps of the Chargers.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I’m wrong but besides DX isn’t the rest a slow bunch! I like jeffrey but I like floyd a little more! No wait jeffrey plays in the sec so its a tie!

by Boy Yottic on Sep 15, 2011 6:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Except for he's injury prone

and gets into trouble, no way we take Floyd.

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Y because of that four pillars stuff? And uhm no one is as injury prone as DX so cut it out! And I was all for the four pillars stuff if the guys brought in could deliver & stay on the field but they can’t so fuk that four pillars crap! That four pillars stuff is gonna be in spags/devaney’s back pocket and kroenke is gonna kick em in that same pcket when he gives em both the boot! Enough is enough I mean damn I love Mchoody and Flajole as coordinators but if spags doesn’t take chances and hear out the talented yet troubled players I would be the 1st to tell em good bye!

by Boy Yottic on Sep 15, 2011 8:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually agree with both of those statements

That’s why I wouldn’t have minded if we signed TO if not for the injury. I think we should stop signing injury prone players all together. Is still prefer blackmon and jeffery over him…

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 9:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Isn't that what I said?

LOL!

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 15, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

well kinda

i just took it as yu saying Clayton can work as a number 2 next to someone like Jeffrey… which is what I was disagreeing with really.

If we get Alshon, then it’s many thanks and bye bye to Mark.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and by the way Bajema freaking.....

PWNED Jason Babin nOOb style blocking him on a passing down. It’s was lovely. Can’t remember when it was, but it was a thing of beauty.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

he also gave up a sack.
Obviously he isn’t a tackle, but I think we can get a better blocking TE.

He’ll do for now though.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did he?

Haha must have missed it.

 I only saw the block on Babin and say that because it was funny that Big Country (thats my nickname for Bajema how can it not be?) pwned Babin. Plus saying “Bajema Pwned someone nOOb style” is fun to say.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

ya

it was pretty awful too.

I wanna see the block though. One of my little secret pleasures is seeing someone just get totally ‘pwned n00b style’ in a block.
That’s why I like watching the Steelers and Hines Ward lol…

ALSO, why I like Dom Curry… after last pre season.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

how about when MJD

Just laid out Shawn Merriman. That was DOPE

by Lexxi on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Criner's "health issues" were really

him dealing with his sick mother or something, and plenty of people have had an appendectomy, so I don’t see that be a huge issue moving forward. I can’t remember where I saw the thing about his mom or I would give you a link.

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by Josh Wehrle on Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can imagine us going WR in the 1st

As has been stated, Alshon Jeffrey would be a unanimous selection.
I am also huge on Blackmon, but am interested to know why 3k isn’t?

I would love to see us address either CB or Safety should one of those two not be available in the 1st.
It’s too early to be watching tape (for me) so I don’t have any names besides the standards, and I’d rather formulate my own opinion on them.

I see us definitely getting interior line help, so we can groom them under our current 5 (I like DFZ want Bell to stay, just on the cheap please!)

DLine depth is bountiful and as long as the dude is fat and strong, then he fits the bill. I’m not looking for a technician really, Spags’ scheme did too well with Gibson and Cudjo in there to be spending high picks on the position.

OLB I am gonna hold off on until I’ve seen how Jabara does. All things out of this off season have been great with regards to him and the coaches adore his upside, as do I.
Leber is solid, but getting someone younger from FA would be ace.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd also like a RB in any round after the 3rd.

While Trent Richardson is a freakily awesome talent, and would be perfect to spell and succeed SJax, a first round pick on a RB does not support the direction we’re headed… Sam.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

whoawhoawhoa

Is there another passenger on the anti-RB train? I need to see your ticket, sir.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I also think we go wr in the first

I don’t care if we do have trade up ( nothing ridiculous ) and if we don’t get one were just wasting his talent. We should have our CB back next season so not that bug of a deal
Maybe get a Rb in round two or three an then go flat out D…

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am also on the train with you

About Rbs, they just don’t make the impact they used to..

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've been on since it left the station sir

auto check in and you don’t get checked in 1st class sir.

It’s been apparent since I have been following the draft that the talent available in the later rounds are only marginally worse off than the 1st rounders, except that they’re cheaper and can be used in a more complimentary role than the focussed offensive strategy a 1st round pick would demand.

For me, there is 1st round talent available in the 3rd at RB, which can’t be said for most other positions, especially WR (Tampa got lucky, Rams don’t take fliers on bad character guys with upside)

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

just seeing how many people are on the train

I think we each have a car to ourselves. Not many of us.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey man this is the life

i love having a car to myself… means I can break a few rules and crack out the drinks and smokes to myself

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

my concern with Blackmon is that

he’s often isolated against shorter more athetic CBs who try to cover him in space. He’s not going to get that with regularity at the NFL level. It’s why Hakeem Nicks’ skill set was better suited to the NFL than college; I see Blackmon as the opposite. He’s not going to be a huge red zone threat, his intermediate game isn’t refined – he relies on physical gifts against smaller corners. It’s an advantage he won’t have nearly as often once he gets to the NFL.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that

but you don’t think his natural gifts warrant a top 15 selection?

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm, that's tough

depends on the system. Look at Greg Jennings and Donald Driver. Independently, they’re 2nd and 7th round picks (obviously Driver was undervalued, but just bear with me). Together, in the Pack’s system with a QB like Favre from years ago or Rogers, they’re a great 1-2 punch. I think Blackmon could require someone like that to open up the defense and force the smaller CB on him.
  So for, say, Arizona if they want yet another WR? Absolutely. Pairing him with Fitz would be brutal. Or Cincy to work him across from AJ Green? Sure. But as a pure #1, the kind of guy you can put out wide and expect him to work solo against top CBs (i.e. Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson)? No way, IMO.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmm valid points

I may have to refer back to game tape and reassess.

From what I’ve seen though, such as vs Amukamara, he can dominate bigger CBs too.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

See I didn't like Amukamara

as much as Dennard. I see Dennard as a better NFL corner.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here is a monster that no one knows about...

Trumaine Johnson from the University of Montana, 6’2" Corner 210lbs, runs 4.4 40 and has ball instincts that only one dreams about. He is a four year starter at the heralded UofM… The kid is an absolute beast. Arrogant but, plays with swag.

91 For life!

by Ramrocker on Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

He's a 7th rounder at best and more a UDFA or simply just a camp body

not trying to be mean, but 40 doesn’t matter if you don’t get in and out of your breaks crisply, don’t have excellent hands, don’t have the explosion to seperate at the last second, can’t go up and get the ball at it’s highest point, be strong enough to get off press, understand how to properly run the route tree (the whole thing), find soft spots in zone and decipher converage at the line. Plus playing on that level he hasn’t gone up against the top teir competition so how does he do against elite corner prospects? Maybe he gets an invite to the Shrine Game or something or Texas vs. The Nation.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's a CB though

I’m intrigued Ramrocker!

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my

I though we were talking about receivers…duh

Basically thought the comment section turned into a giant receiver discussion, cause you know….our receivers are the definition of PURE SUCKAGE!

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you basically shot down the corner he suggested & said he was 7th rnd or UDFA w/out knowing anything about him?

So you’re telling us not to listen to you about players you aren’t familiar with cause you don’t take the time to investigate, just blab a general blanket statement and hope it applies. I’m not saying you don’t have a valid point regarding competition against top level teams. Just my observation & not trying to be a rooster either…

by RamsFan1979 on Sep 15, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol ok, he is most definatley not a 7th rounder.,,,

You have no idea who this kid is. UofM opened with Tennessee week one this year and Trumaine absolutley shut down Da’Rick Rodgers….Who is an absolute beast of a WR. He is a Walter Payton Candidate, three time All-American. And to say that the FCS cannot compete, well just ask Michigan, Oregon State etc. about how valid that statement is. Though FCS schools are smaller and do not produce the quantity of talent, there is still some talent at this level. Trumaine “Truth” Johnson is a top four round pick. Mark my words.

91 For life!

by Ramrocker on Sep 15, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rookies

I think given the fact that the rookies had a shortened schedule this year maybe influencing us to pass judgement on how they may end up performing. Would I like a Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald absolutely. I think it is just premature to dismiss this class quite yet. If the WR play continues to be horrid then the rookies will have ample opportunities to prove their worth. First to board that train Mr Salas please step up! As bad as last weeks performance was, and it was bad, it was against the top CB trio in the league. Same goes for the Oline I don’t know we will face a better front 4 collectively than we did last week.

by RWRAMS28 on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Take Marcus

Well, since this is a mock/fantasy draft, the only player the Rams need is Marcus Lattimore the RB out of SC. We run on first, second and third down regardless of the distance. The other teams defense would have to stick 8 or 9 in the box and then we can throw. Marcus is so good that if someone offered the Rams a 2nd round pick for SJ, take it. I love SJ but Maricus will be as good if not better than Peterson on the Vikings team.

by JL67 on Sep 15, 2011 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Lattimore's a true sophomore

won’t be available until the 2013 draft.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

2012 DRAFT

 Zach Brown would be a great addition to The Rams. Other defensive players I would like The Rams to consider: S Ray Ray Armstrong, LB Sean Spence,LB Emmanuel Acho, LB Ronnell Lewis, S Markelle Martin, CB Coryell Judie, DT Josh Chapman. Offense: WR Justin Balckmon, WR Alshon Jeffery, WR Jeff Fuller, WR Dwight Jones, RB Trent Richardson, RB Vick Ballard, WR Kendall Wright, WR Josh Boyce, OT Levy Adcock ,OT Matt Reynolds. A couple of CB’s I forgot to mention: Cliff Harris and Stephon Gilmore.

by ValdezY on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I like this thought path

You are addressing our needs as we currently see them: OT/G, WR, OLB, CB, S, DT & RB. Wait, that looks eerily familiar to last years list.

by RamsFan1979 on Sep 15, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deja Vu

 It looks like the same wish list. I hope The Rams address these needs in 2012.

by ValdezY on Sep 15, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assuming we are picking in the 20's

1. Stephen Gilmore
2. Dwight Jones
3. Keeston Randall

The with the rest of the picks, we need OG, RB, CB & DE (James Hall is old too). I’m slightly worried that the OG class is really shallow. I’m confident in Jabara Williams to progress and make the starting line up by the end of this season, so OLB not such a concern.

by RamintheUK on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

wait what? lol

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by Josh Wehrle on Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im at work now, just not on the train.

They don’t let me cruise the interwebs on the train . So when I get home I can match a rammock from my board.

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by dbcouver on Sep 15, 2011 11:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope that comes before 10/13/11

so you’re in on the MTD draft that weekend

by RamintheUK on Sep 15, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm didnt we have a speedster in avery

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by Buck Nasty87 on Sep 15, 2011 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't want to cut him either

but Hilton will be more Desean Jackson than Donnie Avery. I’m not saying he’s going to be as good as Jackson, just that he will play more like Jackson than Avery.

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by Josh Wehrle on Sep 15, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really like a few picks

in Zach Brown and Ty Hilton. The fact is, if we keep waiting and trying to fill the OLB spot with a stop gap player, we are going to be doing JL a huge disservice. Brown is so versatile, that he will almost sure to be a 3 down backer. In all honesty, I would like to see Daunta Hightower at our SAM, right next to JL. I know that he plays MLB with Bama right now, but he was very effective when he played next to McClain. The guy is incredibly smart and reads Offensive sets really well. He is also a beast! Maybe, I’m partial to the guys that captain Saban’s defense. They get one hell of an education before entering the NFL.

I saw Ty Hilton play this last week, and I could not believe the defense against this guy. He was constantly able to find huge gaps, and broken coverage in the defense. It seemed like every play he was involved, could have gone for a TD. It looked like the DB’s couldn’t get out of 2nd gear while trying to keep up with him. Honestly, I was wondering what the hell the defense was doing the majority of the time. The one thing that kept being brought up, was comments about his off the field stuff. They were saying that was what prevented him from going to one of the big 4 Florida schools…now that is hard to believe. I thought that the Florida schools could get just about anyone in if they were good enough. That is a huge red flag for me, but there is no doubting his speed and big play ability.

Not sure how I feel about the Criner pick…I’d like to be more supportive, but I feel we may be looking at him a round too early in the 2nd.
Otherwise, I always like seeing where you project guys. It’s fun to compare to my own perceptions. Good stuff 3K.

by CaliRamMan on Sep 15, 2011 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

that was buckeye's article, brother

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nevermind!

I just realized this wasn’t 3k’s article. I just assumed…nevermind.
Still don’t follow your reply!

by CaliRamMan on Sep 16, 2011 3:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we should take two slot receivers

maybe another TE. Definitely DO NOT use those picks on a WR, RB, or LB

by DCRamFan on Sep 15, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

ehhe, that's funny

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeffrey is the best receiver physically, and his combine numbers will make him jump into the top 5

Blackmon is easily the best in terms of route running, blocking, body control, and awareness. I think he will end up being better than Bryant, Jeffreys, and AJ Green. Reason for this is that he is rumored to have a Ricean work ethic. His physical abilities aren’t all that amazing, so I expect him to be available at our pick (10-16 or so) if he isn’t available than I think we go Dre Kirkpatrick. Broyles would be perfect, and his most likely dissapointing combine (size, speed and such) he will be available in the second. Broyles would be great to have with Danny because Broyles can line up at any receiver position. He is a versatility weapon. Ergo, based on possibility we could get them, best combo is Blackmon an Broyles

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 1:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

So I'm not the only 1

who wanted the One Two punch of receiver in the 1st and 2nd. I like the way you think.

Bradford absolutely has to get weapons next season, I mean absolutely has to. We can’t put Gibson out there anymore and try to fool ourselves into believing he is a real #1 receiver. He’s a good #3 and a semi-decent #2 for spot starting circumstances.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the way

Broyles blows the doors off Danny in terms of talent. If broyles adds a little wait, he is a faster version of Welker, as opposed to being a cheap knock off like Danny is

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 1:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I agree

Thats why I thought picking him up in the 2nd after selecting a #1 receiver would be an awesome move. Broyles is a highly productive, saavy receiver. He’s a perfect go to guy for 1st downs and dump offs. He will always be that out go for Sam.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 15, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

much better than Danny

runs double move routes and can work into intermediate depth as well

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do you think Broyles cieling is?

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welker, maybe slightly better

He is fast enough to split out wide, especially with his experience out there, but will be a slot master. My thought is that you can line up Ryan and Danny in the slot positions, and then move Ryan out wide on certain plays to keep defenses from having any clue what to do

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 3:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly

I’d like for him to be a ram but we need a one but if we went wr first and second Alshon and Broyles would rb so sick. We probably wouldnt resign MSW but you never know…

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 3:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Alshon won't be available at our pick.... unless we reaaaallly stink

But Blackmon might. If Blackmon and Jeffreys are both gone, but we are too high to take Ryan….. Either take him any way or trade down and take him. The 4 best receivers in the draft are Jefferys, Blackmon, Broyles, and Floyd. I am ruling Floyd out cause he is a knuckle head who is gonna kill someone with his drinking and driving problems. Got to come out of the draft with one of these guys

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wishful thinking i guess

And yea there’s no way were taking Floyd. Blackmon and Broyles would also be killer too though…

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 4:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe the only player I would take in the first over one of these receivers....

Is Dre Kirikpatrick. That dude is another Nnamdi in the making. Better shut down corner than PP.

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Reason I love Blackmon: heart and work ethic

He seems like Jerry Rice in A LOT of ways. He works his butt off all the time. He plays through pain like no one. I remember watching Bedlam last year, and he would limp on the field every other play, run a great route acting like nothing was wrong, then limb back off like he was about to cry. Even against one of the best CB’s last year (Fleming) with a gimpy ankle (and playing only every other play) he still had 100 yards and a td. He simply refuses to let someone be better than him

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also like Rice, he's the best in the game right now (at least in college)

And everyone knows it. But EVERY game you sit there thinking…. “WHY AREN’T THEY ABLE TO STOP HIM!? They know he’s the guy, they know they gotta double team him!” But it never seems to matter, like I said, he refuses to let someone even consider someone is better than him.

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually have some respect for him

For playing through the sooners game a couple of year ago. I think he’ll be good in the pros.

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 4:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm an OU guy.. And I still would probably take Justin over Ryan

Now that’s 1 over 2, so it’s not that much of a difference. Ryan is amazing, but Blackmon is just on another planet

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Im also an OU fan

And I feel the same way

Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Sep 15, 2011 4:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ronnell Lewis

What kind of player is Ronnell Lewis? From what I have seen; he is as nasty as he is talented. A wicked hitter who wears the #56 quite well. He has quick feet and his lateral quicks are just incredible. I saw him make a few return guys regret taking that role. Against Florida St last year; Lewis just leveled the return man. This year he is playing DE. He was very impressive against Tulsa.As an OU fan what are your impressions of Ronnell Lewis?

by ValdezY on Sep 15, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit late to this due to rush hour

but I’d say a premier slot guy. More adept at intermediate routes than Welker or Amendola, though not quite as precise in the short game. TONS more ability working to the outside.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mock Draft

1) Blackmon
2) Broyles
3) Travis Lewis
4) best available DT
Yes, I know I took 2 OU guys and 3 guys from one state. Yes, I know Travis is supposed to be a possible 1st rd pick, but I think his toe injury moves him down the draft, and his lack of flashyness as well

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

This is based on the fact that Murphy woes doing well before his injury

And the team will know if he is recovered before the draft happens. However, if Dre Kirkpatrick is available and Blackmon or Jefferys isn’t, then we take him

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dude quit it with that two receiver crap! I’m not with picking back to back anything on offense! I like the blackmon if floyd/jeffrey is gone!

by Boy Yottic on Sep 15, 2011 8:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understand you don't like it

But this I’d a qb league, not a defensive league. Who makes the playoffs? The teams with the best qb and weapons. Gotta give Sam the best weapons. I’m all for defense its a special player (Dre Kirkpatrick) but otherwise give Sam the best weapons possible

by King Sam Rules! on Sep 15, 2011 8:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I dont care what round it is

if we draft another tight end i’ll be sick

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by Habte E on Sep 15, 2011 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m with u, I mean if michael (yea michael because I believe only players who contribute & play week in & week out) can’t stay healthy than I hope we find an undrafted talent no wait guidugli could take his spot and show em up id be happy! Id like floyd in the one & trade up for zach brown & get travis from ou in the 3rd! Wait id cross my fingers & hope zach is there and we don’t have to move up!

by Boy Yottic on Sep 15, 2011 8:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

CB is probably one of if not the biggest need.

Our CB’s aren’t Fast at all…..and Bartell can’t catch. We need a big time playmaker at the position. Leber will be decent for a while and we can plug another Rookie on the other side. We’ve struck gold on some FA in the past (Dahl, Brown, Hall, Robbins) but we need to address serious positions and CB is it. It’s a QB league and all the QB’s are licking their chops after seeing Murphy and Bartell go down. CB in the 1st followed by OLB then DT and then we can go RB and WR if need be…Our D was pretty good last yr and should be again but with our D backfield on the IR idk if it will be the same. and no 6th-7th rounders won’t cut it nor will UDFA…

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by SMASH44 on Sep 15, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Go Buckeye

you made the front page of MTD too. Congrats.

by RamintheUK on Sep 16, 2011 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Alright here goes

1st: Alphonzo Dennard CB Nebraska- I’m convinced that this is the best position for our first pick. As much as everyone wants a #1 WR we won’t draft one in the first round in any draft.

2nd: Dwight Jones WR UNC- good value for position of need, 4 pillars starting to be overshadowed by potential unemployment. Jones is that tall WR who wins jump balls and catches the ball well. He started 2011 off right with 2 100-yard games. His stock may surely rise but he currently fits here.

3rd: Michael Brockers DT LSU- redshirt sophsmore, I think he’s eligible to declare. I’ve only watched him once against the Ducks but he was pretty manly. I saw him in highlights of their game against Miss St although they weren’t highlights of him, he was very active and seems to be agile for his size. At 6’5" has some room to fill out from his current 306 lbs, as long as he doesn’t lose that quickness. Need to add to the position if Robbins falters or Bannan doesn’t re-sign.

4th: Kevin Zeitler OG U Wisconsin- Big old dairyland road grater we’ve been wanting, will back up Dahl and Bell if Bell re-signs and step right in if he doesn’t.

5th Keenan Robinson OLB Texas- Stronger this year and a very experienced outside LB with the versatility and quickness to play any LB position. Probably best suited for SAM by the time he graduates from his first NFL weight training program.

6th: Kenjon Barner Ducks RB- as fast as LaMichael James, but bigger and better at returning kicks. Of course this is only if we don’t trade this pick to the Falcons. Good back-up for now and future starter or tag-teamer in a 2 back system, which I doubt we ever go to.

7th: From Cleveland for Greco, Lavasier Tuinei WR Ducks another big possesion type receiver who’s used to downfield blocking and doing it well. I klnow I’m a Ducks homer but this guy is gonna impress whoever drafts him or gets him as a UDFA.

7th: Tysyn Hartman FS Kansas St.-Athletic Safety who played a couple years at CB before moving to safety this year. He had an injury on his knee at the end of 2009 and played with a brace last year but feels better this year. Flexibilty will help him make the team, though he’ll probably spend the first year on the PS.

There that’s it, this took way more time than I should have spent tonite I tied up at 5pm and am due out on my rest at 345am in the morning but I just couldn’t stand it anymore.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

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