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Tape Review: A closer look at Long, Robbins


I was fortunate enough to be able to spend some quality time with my DVR this week and took a closer look at the Rams players in their week 1 loss to the Eagles.  I watched the game live so I knew it was an ugly overall effort, but I still wanted to see who stood out "on tape" as individuals, and why.

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First impressions were easy to come by. Two man stood out. Fred Robbins had a terrible start to the season. His play is very sloppy and he has a penchant for leaving his feet, often when he is nowhere near the person he's trying to tackle.  Being 5 feet away from the ball carrier when you dive sure does make it appear as if its all for show rather than a superhuman effort that just missed. 

Robbins' first four plays:

  1. Gets very little push, ends up diving over James Hall when Hall made a move to collapse the pocket.
  2. Gets into an empty backfield when they play goes away from him, then simply stops and quits on it.
  3. Taken off his feet by dive block as McCoy runs right into the second level.
  4. Gets thrown to the ground and then, when he gets up, takes a horrendously bad angle and then dives at the ballcarrier from well beyond arm's reach. And that opportunity was only there because he was lucky enough that other Rams had turned the play back into him.

Robbins finished the game with 1 Tackle, and no Assists.  Ok, now I get that Robbins is 34 and won't provide the fastest pursuit on the field, but leaving your feet is almost always a bad idea because you stop accelerating as soon as you get airborne. At this point, Robbins needs to not worry about appearances and simply maintain all the accelaration he can get.  I was fairly disappointed in the fact that it was often his choice to needlessly dive, and not just an unavoidable part of the play. He reminds me a lot of a defensive Jacob Bell.

Chris Long is still figuring out how to play with his hands. His quickness off the line was seriously lacking earlier in his career but he was able to fix that.  In fact, Long looks like one of the quickest and fastest D-linemen I have seen in a while. The problem for him on Sunday was when he overpursued he still couldn't work his way back into the play. First play of the game was a classic example, where he burst right by  Eagles OL Todd Herremans into the backfield, only to find himself sealed in back there and unable to make and effective secondary effort to come back out of the backfield.

I have a lot more faith that Long will contiue to make progress than Robbins will all of a sudden start to play more disciplined, but Long's deficiencies are easy to see when you take a good long look at his play. The Rams need pressure on the passer, but they also still need playmakers on the Defensive line. Long's 1 Sack was part Mike Vick, and part Long's inability to penetrate in 1-on-1 situations.

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well let’s hope that Spags gets on their cases, and that Darrell Scott becomes the next big thing!

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by Infemous on Sep 14, 2011 4:13 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

Comments are writer's OPINION and are in no way are any type of divination, scrying or any other types of spiritual prediction.

by Brawnwitch on Sep 15, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes,

I hope they show their 2010 forms on Monday.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Sep 14, 2011 6:26 AM CDT reply actions  

im just wondering

But why don’t we bring lito Sheppard in for

by markg1127 on Sep 14, 2011 7:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

At least a try-out?

by markg1127 on Sep 14, 2011 7:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lets look

Under the mocroscope tonigt.

by CoachConnors on Sep 14, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whiffed on a sack

Badly too I might add. Missed another tackle too.

by 81 Witness on Sep 14, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

the missed tackle was pathetic

had McCoy (I think) lined up, no blocker interference, no time for the receiver to juke, and he just missed. Absolutely horrible tackling technique

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by 3k on Sep 14, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Robbins wasn't taking good angles

either Even with a harried and shortened preseason, this stuff is basic. Attempts at highlight hits instead of your vanilla everyday wrap-up finish on the end of a good angle, so hard to watch when they lose.

Now when they win, all kinda stank is easy to forgive.

by CoachConnors on Sep 14, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he looked better than Quinn.

Huh?

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by Eric Nagel on Sep 14, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

: (..... I never focused in on him during the game.... there was alot to look at lol

I was hoping you would give me some info that made me feel better about releasing selvie. Selvie and thad hurt my deep down when they left….haha.

by stlfan2004 on Sep 15, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Id probably have to make a fanpost

with the headline “Overreaction to Week 1” ironically right after that headline….

by Bralidore on Sep 14, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

we’ve got all the pieces we need to secure the division. We’ve in no way lost good players, and our backups are just as good as the ones we did lose. These rookies are panning out just as we’d expected. Good point!

by DCRamFan on Sep 14, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

long had a horrible gm period...

i was stunned to see the ol taking chris out of the play numerous times, literally driving him way out of the play, 1 on 1 mind you. it was like they were locked together WWE style, and long just couldnt shrug the guy off him. hopefully he will bounce back with a vengeance against the g-men. eli’s going to feel the wrath. poor guy.

by Mark Jaramillo on Sep 14, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

hands -- they weren't happenening

If you’re not faster, you have to be stronger.
If you’re not stronger, you have to have better technique.
If you don’t have better….uh oh.

He did have some speed, but so did his man.

by CoachConnors on Sep 14, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

They should've played Quinn opposite

Long, and should think about placing Bannan and Scott in the middle

Comments are writer's OPINION and are in no way are any type of divination, scrying or any other types of spiritual prediction.

by Brawnwitch on Sep 14, 2011 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

pls dont bring that up again brawn, no disrespect...

bottom line the rams had countless opportunity’s to get d-line help in the draft, and didnt pull the trigger. time after time, round after round, luiget, austin, watts, taylor, wilkerson, were on the board, and the rams didnt even blink. then free agency came, and cofield, and mebane were there, and again, no offer’s nothing.

this is where i stood when i questioned the F.O. they blew numerous opportunity’s for d-linemen, and wr’s, and didnt do anything about it. they stood pat with what they had last yr. but hey, thats what they get paid for right? they know better..i guess.

by Mark Jaramillo on Sep 14, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

They offered Mebane.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Sep 14, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Rice was the only receiver

worth anything, but certainly not at that price, especially considering he’s already missing games.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Sep 14, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not looking back, Mark...

I’m looking forward. If guys aren’t going to pull their weight, then someone else needs to step in.

Comments are writer's OPINION and are in no way are any type of divination, scrying or any other types of spiritual prediction.

by Brawnwitch on Sep 14, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah...

you misunderstood. I want them in the middle…

Comments are writer's OPINION and are in no way are any type of divination, scrying or any other types of spiritual prediction.

by Brawnwitch on Sep 14, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fred Robbins playing bad is discouraging

He needs to return to last seasons form if this defensive line hopes to get any preasure on the qb

by ItsSuperRam on Sep 14, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to start doing this as well CC

I DVR every game but when they get beat like they did against the Eagles I tend to want to completely forget about it and delete it right away. Haha I can’t take watching our boys get hammered like that.

But I will start doing this as well. I got a HD PVR too, so maybe I’ll post particular plays as well.

by DaFranchiZe on Sep 14, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Its almost impossible to get a feel for someone's play unless you focus on them for several consecutive plays

I’m often dismayed at the guys who have the ability to make it to this level, and then they play with just the lousiest basic technique.

For example, if your at a dead sprint, and you reach out with your arm and find you’re still 2 feet away from someone, guess what, diving at them is a stupid thing to do that is strictly for appaerances.

You’re not Superman, ok? You’re not going to get faster in the air.

by CoachConnors on Sep 14, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've often thought that about appearances

     I just can’t figure out what would inspire that train of thought in Robbins. He’s not auditioning for the job, or at least he wasn’t before this game. I’m looking for some dramatic improvement this week for sure. This game, hopefully, was full of preseason type jitters and mistakes that will clear up by Monday night. It would be nice to look good for once in the spotlight.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Sep 14, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

I’m thinking the “Matrix”

by OakCityRam on Sep 14, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I rewatched the fast half and posted the results in the Recap thread.

1st Qtr

- Leber should of had a couple tackles behind the line but was juked/missed by either McCoy/Vick
- The long pass to D Jackson happened because we were faking corner blitz and he just ran by on the snap
- The McCoy TD happened because Laurinaitis over pursued
- Long wasn’t double teamed at all and was just man handled
- James Hall overall looked pretty good.
- Jason Smith didn’t look good on pass protection but was good on running plays.
- On the 20 yard pass from Vick to Avant. Justin King looked lost
- Saffold was one of the reasons of the fumble. He made some half ass chop block off the line and allowed Dapp to create the fumble. The reason he tripped though was that Brown got pushed back and stepped on his foot. Ugly play all around
- Bradford overall didn’t look sharp at all. Not sure if he should be the one calling the protection at the line.

2nd Qtr

- Jason Smith a minute into the 2nd lets up a big sack to Bradford. He obviously had the count wrong because he came off the line soooooo slow. Bradford got demolished
- We were terrible at running screens. Everyone on the team looked bad in them
- Kendricks drops one right in his hands. It was terrible
- 5 mins in Bradford takes another hard hit. 55 was completely untouched. Saffold picks up the blitzing linebacker but the DE goes untouched. Not sure whose fault it was. But Gibson drops the pass also just for shits.
- DeShawn Jackson drops a TD. When Vick has time our CB’s seem to have no chance.
- The entire DL looks weak. Zero pressure on Vick without the a blitz by linebackers or CB.
- Long scratched Vick with a diving finger touch. Closest he has been all day
- We were terrible when we only rushed 3 guys. Vick found holes in the cover 2
- We were at our best when rushed safeties. ie Mikell gets the fumble
- Saffold getting pushed back a lot in passing downs.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 14, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Smtih: Agreed.

I watched a bunch of Jason Smith tape last year, and he was very strong in the run game, worked really well there, but didn’t pass protect good enough to make me think Bradford would’ve been safe with him on the Left side.

When they drafted Saffold I was dumbfounded, but the more I watched Jason Smith last year, the more it made complete sense. Bradford is a major asset that needs to be protected regardless of who (OL) they drafted and when.

by CoachConnors on Sep 14, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Freddy!

Don’t have much to add besides I miss Robbins (well young Robbins)

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-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 14, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I saw Chris Long almost tackle Vick for a couple more sacks.

He just couldn’t catch him. Fred Robbins, I mean I don’t expect a 34 yr old to chase down the fast players of the Eagles when they are 7 or so yards away.

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by Tevin Broner on Sep 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

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