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Preseason game 3 - vs. KC (Aug. 26th)

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  Two years ago, I wrote this preview of the 2009 Governors' Cup (or is it Governor's Cup?  The semantics of punctuation do not excite me).  To summarize:

Twenty-five short years later, France went a little kooky and went from this:

Im000577_medium  to this:   29006_medium

  Yeah, I guess it's worth a click. But forget that crapatoola.  It's 2011.  Things have changed.  The Rams are no longer a Bulger-led team heading toward a 1-15 season that marks the low point of the last decade of football in St. Louis.  They're a Bradford-led team heading toward...well, they're heading toward something better than 1-15, that's for damn sure.

  So with the St. Louis/French foofie outfits/TST look back at history behind us, let us wallow in this year's permutation of the Govern'ors Cup!  Yeah, that didn't get me excited either.  Preview after the fold.

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  For game-related info, check out the SBN page for the game.  For Chiefs news leading up the game, check out Arrowhead Pride.

  Other previews: RamsGab

St. Louis Rams, 2-0, 1st - NFC West

Kansas City Chiefs, 0-2, t-3rd - AFC West

*Statistics won't be available until week 2 of the regular season

STL pass - N/A

KC pass D - N/A

  Another contest, another assessment of the Bradford/McDaniels offense.  What's to be said?  It's another opportunity to solidify the depth chart moving forward, get more reps between Sam and the stable of receivers, though without Mike Hoomanwanui able to go, it's going to be interesting to see if McDaniels holds fast to some 2-TE sets and to what extent Fendi Onobun will be used.  Of course it's not just about the top team tonight; the Rams have to cut the roster down to 80, so the fourth quarter will be full of guys whose NFL opportunity is on the line.

  The Chiefs offer a strong first CB in Brandon Flowers with a lot of questions after that, ending up in the middle of the pack statistically by most pass defense metrics.  Eric Berry is, as expected, a stud at the back, giving them a strong foundation moving forward, but Javier Arenas (the 2nd year nickel back out of Alabama) was hardly reliable outside of his special teams contributions.  The reserve depth at CB isn't bad for the Chiefs.  Keep an eye out in the second half when Demond Washington and Jalil Brown man the corner spots for the Chiefs.  They should be a good measure for the Rams' third team passing attack.

STL run - N/A

KC run D - N/A

  Yup.  More of "not much to add" here on the Rams' side.  Honestly, I'm most interested in seeing Steven Jackson get some reps.  Out of his six carries last game, I only saw one that he could have busted for more yardage by going outside instead of trailing Jason Smith toward the inside.  On the other five carries, there was just no room.  Sure, Cadillac Willams and Jerious Norwood will get work in, and I'd be surprised if Keith Toston didn't get at least a few runs in.

  This is where the Chiefs' defense is strongest, especially on the right side with Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson.  The left side features more technical defenders in Jovan Belcher and Andy Studebaker, though rookie Justin Houston is an option that should he pan out would give them a big presence across from Hali.  Cory Greenwood has carved out a spot on the team and should feature tonight.  Eric Bakhtiari will be in the mix as well, so any positive statement made by the running backs tonight would be an impressive one.

STL O-line - N/A

KC D-line - N/A

  Everyone's favorite flashpoint returns tomorrow night.  We know the starters; at this point, it's about guys like Quinn Ojinnaka (Flocka Flame - I think I have to use this when I mention him now), Renardo Foster, Cody Habben and Hank Fraley.  Offensive lines just don't stay healthy for 16 games across all five positions but in the rarest of seasons, so getting the second tier guys on the depth chart time on the field is crucial at this point.

  The Chiefs are pretty stout up front.  Tyson Jackson is a physical, strong DE for the 3-4, but he's not nearly athletic as Glenn Dorsey on the other side (who I still contend would be much better suited as a 3-tech in a 4-3, and no I wouldn't mind seeing him on the Rams).  And at NT, they're pretty deep, with Kelly Gregg, Jerrell Powe and I believe they've used Anthony Toribio there as well.  Keep an eye out for Brandon Bair, the rookie out of Oregon.

KC pass - N/A

STL pass D - N/A

  What an unpredictable group for the Chiefs.  Rookie WR Jon Baldwin is still out with punch-induced hand injuries, but Dwayne Bowe is still (when the effort's there) as talented a big threat as there is in the league.   Adding Jerheme Urban and Steve Breaston were good moves that add talent to the position, and Dexter McCluster offers a unpredictable athlete at multiple spots.  With Tony Moeaki out, the TE spot is pretty bland.  And Matt Cassel or not, the Chiefs' passing attack has been suspect in the first two preseason game.  Mr. America himself, Ricky Stanzi, and Tyler Palko (aka Calabaloo) are fighting for the backup spot behind Cassel.

  For the Rams, the corners look to be healed up (outside of the long-term injury to Jerome Murphy).  Ron Bartell, Bradley Fletcher, Justin King, Al Harris and Dionte Dinkins should all see time.  Mikail Baker is out though, and it's looking more and more like he'll be on the outside looking in when the regular season starts.  Of course the big surprises at the back are Darian Stewart and Jermale Hines; Stewart reportedly will start in place of Craig Dahl tonight alongside Quintin Mikell.  Jon Nelson is going to have to pick it up to stay on this team, so look for him to bring that "I am going play my ass of because I don't want to get cut" mentality.

KC run - N/A

STL run D - N/A

  The combo of Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones is a solid 1-2 punch, and adding Le'Ron McClain was an important move to help Charles this year.  Jackie Battle's gotten much of the work at RB in the preseason, but I haven't seen anything from him in the NFL.  He was a capable back at Houston back in college, but he's been in the league since 2007.  The second unit shouldn't allow too much from him.

  The Rams' linebacking situation is totally in flux aside from Laurinaitis as the starter.  It looks like Ben Leber and Brady Poppinga will get the early snaps with Laurinaitis, but Na'il Diggs, Bryan Kehl and Zac Diles aren't too far behind.  And yes, more Josh Hull can't hurt.

(UPDATE at 4:01pm ET: It looks like Jamaal Charles might sit this one out, so that means plenty of Jackie Battle.)

KC O-line - N/A

STL D-line - N/A

  With Jermelle Cudjo and Fred Robbins out, the Rams are a bit thin on the inside tonight.  Spags' hand may be forced to work in some 3-DE sets; expect plenty of work from C.J. Ah You and Darell Scott.  Of course, Justin Bannan and Dan Muir should factor heavily too.

  The Chiefs have gotten much younger along their line in recent years.  They've got talented young offensive tackles in Branden Albert and Jared Gaither, though they're a bit light on the inside with Ryan Lilja, Jon Asamoah and rookie Rodney Hudson, their second-round selection this year.  The next step is finding a replacement for Casey Wiegmann who, well, let's just say he's not young.  At all.

This week's top 3 storylines brought to you by stupid stories about animals that just shouldn't have been written.

1.) Dude in New York City kills huge Gambian pouch rat with pitchfork

  Cause that's what smart people do to rats, is kill them with the available pointy tools.  Similarly, the Rams' offense needs to kill off opposing defense with all the tools at our disposal.  With Hoomanawanui out, this is a chance to mix it up with the WRs and maybe even throw Fendi Onobun in the mix.  Worst comes to worst, just give Josh McDaniels a pitchfork and tell him to go crazy.

2.) We might eat frog legs to the point of extinction

  No not us going extinct, the frogs.  The point is, you have to know when to stop.  When you've had too much of a good thing.  Spags might need to be careful tonight with the team's reps.  We discussed this on Turf Show Radio last weekend, because there is no right answer.  On one side, you want to give younger, newer players reps, to get them experience working alongside the guys they'll be playing with in the regular season at game speed.  On the other side, injuries can really mess a team up (see: New York Giants).  So be careful with the frog legs tonight, Spags.

3.) Sea turtle rescued.  Dies.

  Maybe, just maybe, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read.  Researchers found a turtle who:

had gaping holes in his shell, the result of two boat strikes. More than three pounds of sand were inside him, along with crabs, a raging infection, and a collapsed lung.

  Bruh, sometimes you just let the turtle go.  And we're getting close to that point with two notable Rams receivers: Donnie Avery and Danario Alexander.  Avery needs to contribute significantly this year to prove he can mesh with Sam and product in McDaniels' system.  DX just needs to be able to run.  At some point (and unfortunately, it might be sooner rather than later), the Rams might have to let one of these two if not both go back to sea.  And hopefully, they won't have three pounds of sand inside of them with crabs and a raging infection.

Holler.

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rams win

41-9 avery 2 tds MSW 1 td Sam 3 td passes SJ39 1 td

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Aug 26, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

We often beat the Chiefs in pre-season. Not so when it counts.

Two things; (1) If the 1st team doesn’t open some holes for SJax and (2) the defense doesn’t stop getting gashed for big rushing yards, I’m going to start crying.

by RamChop on Aug 26, 2011 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

don't hold your breath

we’re just not built to handle the run well or to use the run well on offense. It’s a pass-first team on both sides of the ball, so…yeah. Get some kleenex or a handkerchief.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that's true we're dead ducks.

A team that can’t run effectively or stop the run ain’t goin’ nowhere. If opponents can get blitz happy, they’ll kill Sam. And if they start grinding out long clock-eating drives based on successful runs our defense will be gassed by half-time. As we should’ve learned from the GSOT days; minus Marshall Faulk we’re short two SB appearances.

by RamChop on Aug 26, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we have to account for the run schematically

Do we have the talent to grind out lanes for our running backs? No. But similar to when people would stack the box against AxJax knowing that we had the line to block for him and no passing game, the best remedy would be to use the pass to open up the box. If Harvey Dahl is anywhere as strong as Incognito in the run blocking game, we should be ok. Not top 10 running O-lines, but adequate.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our O-Line consists of a 1st and 2nd round pick when we were choosing from the top of the list.

Bell, Brown and Dahl are supposed to be good players too. Granted Smith has never lived up to his draft status or earned his $33M contract. None-the-less, these dudes should be able to move some bodies. Unless SJax and Cadillac ‘s abilities have greatly diminished, I expect some stout running from the Rams this season. With the threat of the pass to WR’s, TE’s and RB’s being effective now, I’ll definitely have the hanky out if we can’t crank out 100+ yards rushing every game and actually be able to convert a 3rd and 1 situation.

by RamChop on Aug 26, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying they're not good

I’m saying they have limitations. I expect both Saffold and J-Smith to be well above average pass blockers. Will either of them be Joe Thomas? No way.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stinking @@#$%^&*() old trucks--

Got my finger stuck in the trannie fill tube. Owe Owe Owe!!! Then I found out that the !@#$%^&*() tube just unplugs-Chop-how in the hell do you live with these things? Now I gotta go on IR for 2 cut fingers! I’m pissed-Chiefs bloggers better watch out tonight!!

In the cool still quiet hours of night, you can hear Eagles players softly uttering love words to themselves while kissing their hands and arms. "I am a Dream-I am a Dream"

by Knoxfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think McD

is going to open the playbook even if he knows its not smart to do so. He wants to get even with Haley.
What’s all the bru ha ha about Uh Oh? I don’t think I’lli Mike makes much difference one way or the other.

by OakCityRam on Aug 26, 2011 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

the brouhaha

is that noone can fill his role in the 2-TE offense. Bajema’s not nearly strong enough, despite similar size, and Schuyler Oordt is way too raw. The point is that Mike makes the 2-TE possible; without him, it’s a different offense.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ojinnaka Flaka Flame!!

But foreals, this will be a good test for us. 1st team O needs to put up 3 touchdowns and sustain some drives. Why 3? I’m looking for 1+ per quarter. Just some consistency on offense really, good protection from the O Line, and the ability to contain some runs from our D.

If this game looks anything like the Titans game, besides the strong play of our 3rd stringers, and the 83 yd bomb, I’m going to punch an infant. For the sake of Denver infants everywhere, GO RAMS!!

I'm only calling you bitches 'cuz I don't know your names individually.

by LOOKthatsCHAD on Aug 26, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m just hoping for a solid showing by the first team. Time to test DX and Avery. Let them fly. Is this game on in CA? No injuries!! Win or lose, who cares it’s preseason. let’s just see how comfortable the starters are within the system. It’s go time Rams!!

by Skunkburner on Aug 26, 2011 1:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

just a preseason game

but i hope we whoop that ass tonite, im starting to dislike the chefs like i do sf.

My two favorite teams, the St. Louis Rams and whoever's playing the winers.

by caliramsfan1 on Aug 26, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I see you've done your HW on the Chiefs.

from the Chief’s perspective i’d add:
Kendrick lewis played probably as good as Berry did last year and actually intercepted more passes, though two were called back. QBs like to pick on him and he likes to pic their passes.
Dorsey would probably be much better as a penetration guy in an even or odd front but Crennel won’t run it. Cheifs fans are loathe to admit that this is true. The only problem is that we don’t have a replacement.
Our run D is still spotty
our weakest link is at the top: QB
you will see Dexter McCluster in the backfield as well. possibly more than the slot.

by SillyHatDay on Aug 26, 2011 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Lewis had a good year

but Berry is a special talent, and much better in run defense than Lewis was at Miss.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have high hopes for avery

It looks like he recovered well from the surgery and was able to get his speed back. Hands have never been an issue with Donnie. It seems like his only glaring flaw is his inability to get open but with that speed, a great offensive coordinator and a promising young QB im sure he’ll find a way. Now as for DX, this is a guy who I have all but given up on. That brittle knee of his will hold him back his entire career and I am getting a little tired of worrying about it. I wouldn’t be shocked if we went into the regular season without him. If we do, however, and he suffers another serious injury to that knee then we need to cut ties.

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."

by Buck Nasty87 on Aug 26, 2011 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

So it's you killing off the frogs!

You heartless sonofabish! What, are you buying adult-sized frog costumes just to rub it in?!

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Something tells me Avery will stay.

I just don’t see us sending off one of the guys with gamebreaking speed off. I’m not Al Davis, but you do need speed, especially if you intend to go vertical. That said, he can’t come out and play horrible these next two weeks, but he doesn’t have to go for 100+ either.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on Aug 26, 2011 2:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Just bought a "Save the frogs" bumper sticker...

to put next to my baby seals, dolphins and whales stickers.

I’m from the “don’t really care about the score in preseason games, as long as we don’t suck, and nobody gets hurt” camp. But it would be sweet to hang half a hundred on Haley.

Actually I just hope the Rams 1’s and 2’s keep it close enough for Thad to come in and pull out a last second win!

by CFB_fan on Aug 26, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

baby seals?

Fuck them thangs! You can’t eat seals!

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Aug 26, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

but they have dreamy eyes

and those little mothers sometimes make their way to the Central Valley of Cali, by way of our aqueduct system, and I’d love to hook one of those slippery sea-creatures.

"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense

by moy on Aug 26, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

AVERY is on this team!

So is Sims-Walker, Armendola, Gibson, Gilyard and Salas or Pettis (One of the rookies will be on practice squad); Danario (PUP)

by Bradford911 on Aug 26, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

rookie wr's

I do not see one of the rookies being cut. I am guessing they either go with 7 or release gilyard. DX’s knee is too unreliable to keep imo.

by hbwb on Aug 26, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it

by RG31 on Aug 26, 2011 6:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

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