Rams vs Titans recap: Shades of 2010
This is the week where we remind ourselves that this is a preseason for the opposite reasons we did the same last week. The St. Louis Rams made an 83-yard statement to start the game. Unfortunately, what should have been a tone setting play, looked more like an off-note as the first half unfolded and the Tennessee Titans outplayed the Rams starters.
Sam Bradford and the handful of starters left on the field at the end of the half, packed it in down by a score of 16-7. Like I said above, this was a preseason game. When the Rams get back to practice, they will have a list of things to work on before next week's game against the Chiefs and the start of the regular season.
Let's review the starters after the jump.
Needs work
After dominating the Colts last week, the Rams offense line struggled against the Titans. Blitz pickup was particularly troublesome. Usually forgotten in August play, teams have blitzed with a purpose through this preseason, and Titans were relentless. Credit the Tennessee defense; they did a good job disguising their blitzes and making late changes that the Rams couldn't keep up with before the snap. Bradford was sacked once and pressured constantly. Hell, the Rams got a real scare late in the half when a low hit made it look like a serious ankle injury was preordained. Clearly, the line missed Jacob Bell, but that's not the only reason they missed so many blitz pickups. It was a collective effort that even indicts Sam Bradford for not picking up pre-snap reads.
Run blocking in the first half was nothing like last week either. The holes weren't as wide in the middle and Jackson had little room on the outside.
Speaking of Steven Jackson, he looked rusty himself, lacking the burst and power you've come to expect from him, or at least did until last season. Has time finally caught up to him? No, probably not; I'm just in preseason worry wart mode. He didn't have much room to work, and his presence on the field did force the defense to react. What did trouble me is that, like last season, Jackson just didn't seem to be able to pick up yards after contact, something that used to be a given. Cadillac Williams did run much better, more purposefully, but the Titans didn't have all their starters in at that point.
On defense, there was more rust to see. The first team outside linebackers, which won't be the first team starting outside linebackers (Na'il Diggs and Bryan Kehl) when the season starts. They played poorly, misreading plays. They got fooled on Jamie Harper's 46-yard run, and if Chris Johnson had been playing, the score would have been much more lopsided. Fortunately, things improve when Leber and Poppinga came into the game.
I don't know if they purposefully dialed back the pass rush - they usually do in the preseason - but they didn't get much pressure. Then again, the Titans ran the ball with ease and they didn't really need to.
On the plus side...
The play action pass is going to be a feature of this offense, as it should be. It worked beautifully on the first play of the game. Tennessee bit on fake to Jackson, and Bradford threw a bomb to Brandon Gibson for an easy score. Really, despite their struggles, it was a sign that this offense can be good, they just need to knock the rust off before the game count.
If the first team defense reminded you a little of last year's group, there's a reason for that: it mostly was. The weak play of the starting outside linebackers aside, the unit still made key stops, holding Tennessee to field goals on two drives that could have been touchdowns, including a nice 3rd-and-1 stop on the Titans' first possession.
The second team linebackers played well, and should be in the mix with the starters this week. That will make the defense a much better unit.
Play behind the front seven was generally pretty solid. There were a couple times where the safeties probably got caught freelancing, but for the most part, the troubles stemmed from the linebackers.
Individual player notes
- Sam Bradford - Not a bad night, but he must have had flashbacks to last season when his receivers just couldn't get open and his line was letting him get pressured. He probably should have seen Cortland Finnegan's blitz, the one that almost got him injured.
- Mike Sims-Walker - He might be looking for first team reps this week after letting a well-thrown Bradford pass get intercepted. Late out of his break, he stumbled and fumbled the ball that resulted in a Titans INT and easy score. On his next target, he fell, resulting in a blown third down. He did finally make one nice catch. Clearly, the guy has some rust after not playing much this week because of injury.
- Lance Kendricks & Brandon Gibson - Both look like the go-to weapons for this offense. Solid game.
- Donnie Avery - It's going to be hard to argue that he doesn't deserve some reps with the first team. His second half TD grab was a beauty.
- Bryan Kehl - Somtimes a nice week of practice doesn't translate to a good game.
- Na'il Diggs - This guy won't be with the team when the season starts.
- Justin King - He just can't put it all together. An ugly missed tackle might send the Rams to the waiver wire with more urgency.
- James Laurinaitis - Do not put sub par players on the outside of this guy. No wonder we haven't seen fully what he's capable of in the NFL.
- Darian Stewart - The coaches weren't lying when they said they had high hopes for this kid; however, he was just okay working with the ones. A missed tackle on Jamie Harper's 46-yard run stands out.
- Mardy Gilyard - A gritty guy, but he failed to show much in return duty...other than moxie.
- Adam Goldberg - He took some reps as the first team left tackle, after Rodger Saffold was removed out of precaution, and was the same old Goldberg.
- Renardo Foster - A bad penalty in the second half and so-so blocking in the first half...the Rams ran exclusively to the right when he and the backups were working on the left side.
What about you, what did you see that needs work? That worked well? Which players stood out? What lineup decisions would you make for next week?
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the game isn't over yet!
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:01 PM CDT reply actions
honestly
it didn’t have to be for this post. The result is unimportant to what Van is recapping
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. "
Bruce Coslet
no i know.
i was just giving him trouble.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No you don't
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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wth?! i disappear from VEB for a few days so you have to come creep on me over here?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
GTFO
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Who died
and made you God of Football, dude? Leave your attitude off the board, or YOU should leave.
3443AZ
he's giving me trouble. he's harmless.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i appreciate the support though.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
you'll get over it.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Good Play by the backups to win the game
Ugly win. Poor performance by the first unit.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Except for in preseason when the end does not justify the means.
We played like dirt tonight, especially the starting line. Hopefully that was just a lack of chemistry because Bell was out and Dahl is still getting adjusted, and Tennessee had a confusing gameplan with blitzes and we didn’t really study the tape because it’s preseason.
At least the team stayed healthy.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Now we know which players are not in our plans for the future
STEVEN JACKSON is the #1 Ram
Go RAMs !!!
Rams won 17-16.
Loved the 83 yard TD pass from Sam to Gibson on the first play, who may make the team on that catch alone. Avery’s 19 yd catch might produce the same result. The LB crew could have played better. the Defense gave up some big plays and needs some work too.
Like I said about the LB's all night
Expect Leber and Diles to start, and Poppinga to be the main rotation guy by the time the season stars
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Great playfor the opening TD
But really that play was more a product of the overall great play call but give Gibson props for holding onto the ball and staying on his feet. I doubt you’d see a defense fall for the same play during the regular season. Gibson probably makes the team but not just because this one catch but because he seems to be very solid… I just wish he had a little more flash.
Liked Thad Lewis's game, Avery and Gilyard both appeare to make progress
Salas settled down and looked ok.
Fendi O. made the most of his snaps too.
Starting D-line….wtf?
They didn't play well, true
But it doesnt help when every mistake you make you make is magnified by a couple 3rd or 4th string LBs being behind you
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish Pettis would have shown more
He’s getting the reps, just doesn’t look like he’s clicking in the offense, or special teams for that matter. It’s clear he can contribute, but it’s painful to keep waiting (even though WR’s are notoriously slow to develop…).
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
i think he'll be right
Made his first catch and all he can do is get.better
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Aug 20, 2011 10:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pettis was targeted twice tonight I believe. He caught one pass and I believe the other was not catchable
What do you want the guy to do??? He cant make plays without the ball in his hands
Actually that's exactly what I want him to do
Some consider targets a product of opportunity, and it seemed like he was easily negated on most plays. If he were gaining seperation, I’m confident Sam would have targeted him (a rookie with something to prove) a couple more times. But he was blanketed, and caught one pass (though looked good using his hands on a hard-ish throw). I am jumping the gun a little, but I don’t think my expectations for this kid are out of whack.
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
you're telling me a team with pete carroll coaching and tavaris jackson QB'ing looks bad?!
no way?!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
HOORRRAAYYY!!!
Yeah, I think it’s a 2 horse race between Cards and us, at least until Alex Smith is benched.
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
Not a single stitch of consistency
On either side of the ball so far this preseason. Everyone knew the colts suck in preseason. our startes faced a good team and got smacked . Period
by Ram_Redemption on Aug 20, 2011 10:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
In the preseason
With a bunch of back up lbs and a LG who breeds to be out of the league
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lance Kendricks had a single catch for 9 yards
I didn’t see enough to call that a “go-to” game, but I believe the 3rd pre- game is usually the one to watch if you’re trying to see more of the real gameplan and less of the positional tryouts
I think the Rams know what they have in Kendricks.
They seemed to be trying to get MSW some plays, but he didn’t perform too well.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
looked like the answer last game
and probably weill next game too.
(the question is who will catch the TE recs?)
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Bradford, James L., Mikell, and our CB duo was the best tonight!
Jackson is finished. This is just the beginning of the end for him. Jackson will not be a Ram in 2012. I’m calling it now.
Sims-Walker was absolutely awful. That INT was so ugly it prompted the coaching staff to meet him on the field as he walking off, the coaching staff then went crazy on him. They tore him a new one, it was obvious they weren’t pleased with that.
No healthy O-Line this team is in major trouble.
We need some serious fatass DT’s. Robbins is solid, but without a real run stuffing DT we are going to be abused up the middle.
Think of some more later.
Oh it was funny to see Matt Hasselback get hurt by falling down. That was classic Hassel.
Mikell did crap tonight
and you are high if you really believe that first sentence
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Jackson? Steven Jackson will not be a Ram in 2012?
So after one preseason game where the offensive line he was playing behind got its ass kicked on every play and in a game that came after a week in which Steven did not practice due to a slightly sore hip, you have concluded that the Pro Bowl running back is at the end of his career. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
I guess Bradford’s a bust because he got sacked a lot against Minnesota. That was the same thing. Offensive line couldn’t do anything for him, so he had a rough night and couldn’t get anything done. Not his fault.
I totally agree with u stopspe I mean after a game u guys feel he won’t be back??? The only fellow to make the pro bowl for us in years?! After 1 game? This is so stupid its whimsical… when we win in dramatic form ur kind has nothing good to say but when we win a nail biter all hell breaks loose with the negativity! I’m startin to think sum of u aren’t rams fans but ram haters! Whatever team u do like, I’m sure they have a fan site sum where I jus knw they do! Its a preseason game for a reason with a shortened camp due to u knw what… the nerve of u!
by Boy Yottic on Aug 21, 2011 1:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree that SJax is going down, he just has no burst or strength
His numbers have been exaggerated by getting the ball as often he has on this team.
SkyWalker did look bad, but that is after not practicing almost all week, and you could tell he had problems with timing, an everyone trips every now and then.
We are having to convert Bannan from a 3-4 DE to a DT, I think he will start to play better.
The O-line features two second year starters (who had no OTA’s) and a new starter. The fucking idiot Fraley didn’t help. The O-line needs more time to gel
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
no burst or strength
give me a break..
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
His strength isn't what it used to be
And compare his burst to even just Cadillac, (not to mention All Day and CJ2K) it is kinda sad how slow he looks through the hole
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you are crazy!
He is 245 pounds, thats why he looks slow going to the whole. CJ2K is like 200 pounds and ran the fastest 40 in combine history. I wonder why he looks slower.. it doesnt make sense
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 21, 2011 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I live in Nashville....
….and had to listen to the Titans’ broadcast. Eddie George swore that SJ39 weighed 265. LOL.
The truth is always the right answer....
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Aug 21, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
norwood had 4 carries for -1 yards
does that mean he isn’t fast anymore??
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
yea lets put lewis at running back
he averaged ten a carry
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha - too funny man, too funny
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
Everyone needs to shut the hell up about Steven Jackson.
Did you watch tonight’s game? Tell me what running back would have gained yardage more than Steven tonight. Tell me how many yards per carry your favorite fantasy football running back would get behind last year’s Rams offensive line.
Adrian Peterson, just gonna throw it out there
SJax ain’t even worthy of holding All Day’s jock strap. All Day carried a team that had T-Jack as the starter to the playoffs
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you are crazy
so freaking crazy
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
That I’m joking about how All Day and CJ2K are the only truly special (as in all time great level of play) RB’s in the league. I’m not kidding, SJax is a very good RB, and has great games, but he’s not close to All Day or CJ2K
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And by truly special, you mean the guys that really help your fantasy team a lot.
This is why I hate fantasy, it teaches people to completely disregard the most important position and sports. Fantasy football tells folks to give all the credit to the guy with the ball.
Go watch Steven, and watch him get through holes that aren’t even there. Go watch Peterson, and look at how many times he can just power through the hole. Obviously I’m biased because I’m a Rams fan, but I see Steven do a hell of a lot better when nothing’s there than Peterson. Adrian Peterson can’t gain yardage when the offensive line doesn’t open a big hole for him. And Steven has much more power and ability to push the pile and gain extra yards at the end of the play. Steven falls forward, Peterson falls back.
I actually don't play fantasy
I just know that the best 3 RB ’s in the league right now are Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, and MJD
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And in that second sentence of the final paragraph, I mean
you should watch how many times he can’t power through holes that aren’t there. That was worded a bit unclearly.
And I hope I don’t sound like I’m being real hostile, because I don’t want to be. You’re an Oklahoma fan, I get it. I’m a Mizzou fan and will defend Danario Alexander all day. But in this instance, you are wrong.
Yes, SJax is stronger and bigger than Peterson
But ask anyone, Peterson’s speed and burst are better.
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And yes, I love Adrian Peterson cause I'm an OU guy
But I would also take Johnson, MJD, and Foster over SJax
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So if we put those guys on the 2010 Rams and tell them not
to use their favorite move, they would do better than Steven (who couldn’t even stiff arm folks the last half of the year due to his finger injury and also couldn’t catch a ball with two hands). Obviously there’s no way to know for sure (unless somebody could invent the What-If machine from Futurama), but I think that they wouldn’t do so well. And there’s no way anybody does as well as 2009 herniated-back Steven Jackson.
I'm not saying SJax isn't an extremely talented RB
But he’s not as good these guys
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Answer the question.
Do you think those guys could do as well as Steven did last season with that shit o-line, awful passing game, Shurmur, one arm, and without their top move?
Just go compare Adrian Peterson's numbers through 4 years
To all time greats like Brown, Sayers, Payton, and Smith. He matches up with all of them
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
AP..
is better than Steven at this point and is arguably better than Steven ever has been. Its just fact if you look at numbers and opinion if you look at tape.
But event he tape heavily favors Peterson.
Love Jackson but he was not hitting the holes (even if they were small) with authority tonite like Cadillac was and that was frustrating to me.
Tonight is completely irrelevant.
This is a preseason game in which Jackson has sore hip and wasn’t even going close to full speed. And I’d argue that the tape from the past 4 seasons favors Steven by a lot.
What tape are you watching?
Almost every run by AD looks like something from a video game
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you want to compare him to Steven last year
Im suggesting we look at how he compares to all time greats, and how SJax doesn’t compare to them
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm done with this conversation.
You won’t even answer the simple question that I’ve asked you. You ignore the fact that during Peterson’s career the Vikings have had a top o-line while in SJ’s the Rams have had an o-line near the bottom of the league. You ignore the fact that Peterson doesn’t go up against 8 and 9 defenders in the box like Steven Jackson.
Right he doesn't go up against 8 in the box
Cause people were so afraid of T-Jack. And is already said I would take Adrian over SJax in any conditions for the entirety of a season, especially at this point
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, and SJax gets caught by LB's who catch up to him
Peterson has way more burst and speed
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
Dude look at your last statement if you think that peterson is one of the all time greats then you must be smokin something lol
I'm not saying he is
But he has the talent to be
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
mabye
most likely not hes been great over the past couple of seasons but he will never be as good as barry sanders or walter payton
Compare his numbers through 4 years to there's
He matches up pretty well at this point
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Fumbles
Im pretty sure Peterson has had a problem with fumbles and stats are beside the point your the first person i have ever heard that said peterson is on the same level as barry or walter or any other great running back
Physically he is, and talent wise he is
He plays in a passing league though, so he doesn’t get as much publicity as they did. Whenever he retires, we are all gonna look back at the numbers and realize just how good he was. Assuming something terrible doesn’t happen to him.
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No one
No one is doubting he is good or even great but he will not be remembered as one of the top backs of all time he is a great player but there is nothing ive seen from him that says he will be that great he has the talent but he wont be able to put it all together
Once again, compare his numbers so far to some o the all time greats at the same point in their career
He’s on pace to be one
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
On pace
he is right now but running backs tend to have short careers and he has had alot of touches the past four years so he could start slowing down any time soon but dude im done arguing with you over a player thats not even in the same division then the rams
He's an OU fan,
he’s not joking.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, that's funny.
So you think that the Vikings and Rams have equal offensive lines? I don’t want to demean the Rams players because I really like them, but the Vikings have a much better o-line. It’s hard to quantify what’s the o-line and what’s the running back, but just watching Peterson it’s clear to me that he’d do no better than Steven on the Rams.
*had a better o-line.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Adrian Peterson is the most talented runner to enter the league in a decade
His pure combination of burst, speed, strength, size, power, moves, and vision is a rare thing. I promise you, Adrian Peterson is better than SJax, and it’s not even close
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm gonna point out that this isn't the only reason I think this
But there is a reason that SJax was ranked 38th in the Top 100, and Adrian was 3. How many years now has Adrian led the league in rushing tds?
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude
We have had TERRIBLE teams the past couple of seasons and the one bright spot on the team was always jackson teams would stack the box and he would still get first downs im not saying peterson isnt better cause he is but your making steven seem like a third stringer
That's not what I'm intending to do
Unless it’s a roster with Peterson and Johnson
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tell me, please, what percentage of plays do you think
that Adrian Peterson goes up against 8+ defenders in the box? I bet it’s not even remotely close to how many times Steven Jackson has in the past 5 seasons.
And please do not bring TDs into this discussion. Ken Darby has 3 TDs (2 rush, 1 rec). Does that mean he was almost as good as 2009 SJ39, who had 4 TDs? Touchdowns are like RBIs in baseball. In baseball a home run can produce an RBI like a long run can make a TD, but most of the time a hitter needs his teammates to get on base in order to drive in a run. Steven’s teammates have not gotten him on base the past couple of years (he hasn’t opportunities to score).
At some point though
It’s about scoring. Peterson is the definition of consistent excellence since entering the league
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You're right, since he entered the league his team could
always rely on him.
Except for the fact that, you know, he’s average 5 fumbles a year for his career. That’s more than twice as much as Steven (2.42 fumbles a season).
Scoring TDs are important, but they are not indicative of a running back’s abilities.
the year he rushed for 1700, Chester Taylor backed him up & ran for 800 with over a 5 yard average, SJ would of had 2500
I've been waiting for someone to mention the fumbles
Go look at some of the all time greats who struggled with fumbles early. He had one I think last year.
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Easy Thunder
I love SJax but Peterson has faced 8 men in box his entire career. Remember he had Tavaris as his QB for a while and there were 9 at times. AD is a beast and a special Eric Dickerson style back. I love SJax and think everyone needs to chill about tonight but AD is the man.
you King Sam are a fool…. SJ leads the NFL in yards from scrimmage over the last 5yrs. Petersons a good back with a really good line, lets see how hw this year
his line is terrible.
Both SJax and AD have had to perform with crappy lines. We don’t need to be homers to appreciate how good both are.
Actually ask any Viking fan
and they’ll tell you their line is worse then ours. It’s actually horrible. Steven Jackson is finished, he’s slow, has literally no explosive first step and has zero agility. He’s finished and he’ll be cut after this year. This offense is a throwing offense that will rely on 1 cut and go guys who get up the field quickly. Sorry Jackson doesn’t do that, and honestly when was the last time he trucked someone? What in 2008? Sorry, but most of you are living in the past, the NFL is all about right now and tomorrow and Jackson offers nothing.
By the way I don’t play FB, it’s for nerds, I watch the game and you can clearly see he’s finished and anyone who says that Adrian wouldn’t a monster upgrade should probably give up for ever watching the NFL.
Jackson will not be a Ram in 2012. It’s a lock.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
he won't be cut
traded maybe, not cut
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Who would trade
for a 30 yr-old 245lbs. back while a ton of milage on him? Be for real, C-U-T!
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Cause who the fuck is
Bradford going to throw too? Are you serious? Did you not see the ineptness of the receivers tonight? Why would anyone fear them? You got guys who get in and out of their breaks so damn slow, guys who fall down running down the field or just plain not catch easy passes. Why would any defense not play close to the line when every single receiver we have can get washed out in man coverage?
Trust me, nobody fears Jackson, teams know that we have to play short passes and dive running plays. The front office drastically under estimated the amount of garbage talent on this team at wide out.
I amazed Bradford has done what he’s done with this kind of bullshit that surrounds him. It’s truly amazing. No elite franchise QB puts up with the amount of utter trash he puts up with. Not one. Ryan had Turner and White, Manning had Harrison and Faulk/James, Rivers had Tomlinson and Gates / Vicent Jackson, Roethlisberger had Bettis / Mendenhall and Ward . Holmes, etc. etc. etc. Bradford has an old worn out Jackson and absolutely NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s like Devaney and Spagnoulo could care less about bringing even an above average WR. I mean WTF!? Jesus, Gibson almost fell down running in a straight line for Christ sake.
Jackson is not the answer, he’s average at best, he’s no longer elite, he’s no loner good, he’s just an average big back with zero speed, zero agility and zero burst.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
what are you talking about
I homer the Rams more than anyone here period, been banned for every single major site because of it, I’m just disgusted in that the front office continues to surround the one player THEY ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT MUST BUILD AROUND they don’t. I love the O-Line acquisitions, but no depth makes all those signings moot. Look what happened once Bell went down. They poured through the line. I mean Hank fucking Fraley? Are you kidding me? Fraley is a 100 years old and hasn’t been good since 1970. He’s total trash!
Michael Sims-Walker looked terrible tonight and the Titans corners are average compared to the Eagles, what the hell are our receivers going to do when 3 Pro Bowl corners are on them?
You guys can sit there and be all hunky-dory but it’s going to get ugly if the Rams can’t figure out some type of game plan in the next 3 weeks. This game did more than just make us look bad, it exposed us.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I am talking about
you’re overreacting jus a lil bit to say Jackson is done, and they have no one to throw to, after this pre-season game. Really, you are.
Now that I have said that, and my other post below about Receivers, I will also say (agaon) it wouldn’t surprise me if they go 1-3 in the first 4 gamnes.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I will answer your question with: Avery, Amendola and Kendricks
And later on, when they’re leading the team in Recs during the regular season and have a winning record, you can come back and admit you didn’t see it coming. :)
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
OMG!!!!!!!!!
Really? I have no doubt this team can have a winning record, but burrying your head in the sand and singing LALALA because you don’t want to hear the truth is sickening.
BY the way, I have a hard time believing a rookie, a busted receiver a small slot will lead the league in anything. NEXT!
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
A small slot like Welker lead the league or close to it.
So why is it incomprehensible for you?
Balance. Its there now.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Avery is not busted anymore, and Amendola is a good size for a slot...
I just don;t understand how you cannot leave the past and make a call based on the balance they have now. You have a deep threat who caught a TD tonight on a nice route, FINALLY a great hands TE and a proven reliable slot. Whats not to see there?
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
we just signed a couple 30+ year old RB's
with knee injuries.
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sorry
28 and 29
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"Steven Jackson is finished, he’s slow, has literally no explosive first step and has zero agility"
This would count as news to me. Really, my man? Really?
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
His burst is really going downhill
But he is still a top 5 or 6 RB
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Top 5 or 6 RB is probably closer to where I see him
I think he might missed his absolute prime but if we’re counting the top RB’s on planet Earth, I mean you just can’t replace him that easily.
I think they are definitely taking a conservative approach to his carry count this pre-season because he’s an experienced vet that probably will benefit later by having a lighter workload now.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
No he's not, he's not even top 10.
1. Peterson
2. Johnson
3. Jamaal Charles
4. Darren McFadden
5. Michael Turner
6. Maurice Jones-Drew
7. Rashard Mendenhall
8. Frank Gore
9. Arian Foster
10. Jonathan Stewart
they are all better right now, some of you think that the Jacksonj from 2006-2008 is going to walk out onto that field and play for the 2011 Rams. It ain’t happening, it’s over, he’s done. He was done last year.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
at worst he'd be 6th in this list
gore is washed up, mendenhall is good, but not that good….arian foster.. nope, stewart shouldn’t even be on this list
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Are you kidding?
Don’t reply to me….haha
Gore is better than Jackson, you can think he’s washed up all you want, he’s still better, and Foster led the league in rushing. So you’re saying that the guy who led the league in rushing last year isn’t better than Jackson now? Stop, please.
Stewart is better right now, this has nothing to do with the past. Wow! Do you think it’s 2006 or something? Jackson is absolutely finished.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
That's exactly what i'm saying
i’d take sjax over foster any day of the week. Not sold on Stewart.
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Okay you do that
Jackson will be lucky to break a 1000 yards this year.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
but only because of Cadillac, Norwood + McDaniels
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Foster led the league in rushing, yet is number 9?
Don’t give me that he’s a one-hit wonder crap because he’s much better than DMC is, who was an even worse one-hit wonder with 10 times more expectations. DMC is as overrated as can be. He averaged 3.4 yards per carry in his SECOND YEAR with no wear and tear, Jackson FINALLY averages less than 4 YPC at his age and had arguably the worst run blocking he’s seen in awhile.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Jackson
330 CAR 1241 YDS 6TD
46 REC 383 YDS
he wasn’t done last season
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Lowest totals since his rookie year
go look it up
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Still wasn't done though like you stated
and if you think no one would offer anything for sjax thats insane
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Tell me what will they offer for him.
Please, enlighten me to what a team will offer for a 30 year old 245lbs. back averging less than 4 yards a carry with 4.60+ speed and $8 million on the books?
GTFO you don’t know what you’re talking about
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
does it matter?
All i’m saying is, we won’t simply CUT him, I guarantee someone would offer something that’s just crazy.
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it works both ways
why would keep a 30 yr-old 245lbs. back with less than 4 yard average who’s making $8 mill?
Why?
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
why would we cut him
when other teams would surely have interest
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You're overestimating
the interest clubs have in older backs.
The Chargers cut LT…thats all you need to know.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 20, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
and teams like Dallas
and the Raiders give up the farm for old free agents almost every year.. I’m just saying, feel out the market before you cut someone like sjax.
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There is a reason why the Colts
refused to resign James, and then the Cards cut him 2 years later, there is a reason why LT was flat out cut by SD and is now 2nd on the depth chart in NY, there is a reason why Portis is out of a job and Shaun Alexander couldn’t find one when he was cut by Seattle. Teams will not give up the farm for old backs. Name one right now that is over 30, making the big bucks and is a feature back for a team. You can’t because in the NFL younger is better at RB. The Rams insured themselves this year with Williams and Norwood, niether one is a feature or worth starting in this league but they at least keep Jackson from carrying the ball 20-25 times a game, next year the Rams have to make a play for a back that is young and has a career ahead of him. They can not rely on an old back with zero speed and agility. Teams will not respect the big play with a guy like that.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 21, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
They trade him because of contract dispute
and Faulk wasn’t 30 years old with with 10,000 yards a tread on the tires. NEXT!
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 21, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
"next year the Rams have to make a play for a back that is young and has a career ahead of him"
Granted, they clearly do need to do that next year…. I don’t think that means they needed to do 2 years ago, though
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
You're an idiot
and late to the conversation, Jackson is finished, it has nothing to do with the game tonight, the game tonight just put a spotlight on his lack of speed, agility and first step that anyone with a brain could have seen last year.
Nice hyperbole bum, maybe learn how to actually discuss football instead of typing a dumbass comment like that out.
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 21, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
like some half witted ass munch who thinks a pro bowlers washed up.. Try watching football instead of playing fantasy
What Pro Bowl?
Oh you mean the thing where the fans vote in big names?
Oh yeah, thats an awesome standard. Did you know that Vince Young is a 2 time Pro-Bowl QB yet was cut before his rookie contract was up and is considered a monster bust? GTFO
by DaFranchiZe on Aug 21, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Who the hell are you
How dumb are you? I just saw you talk badly to respected members of this community like VT, and coachconners
You clearly know nothing about football if you think a preseason game in which Jackson had just 6 carries after not having practiced all week and was missing some starting linemen matters. Yeah he didn’t look good but it was in perhaps the worst of circumstances. I remember him starting some of the best games of his career poorly including the dallas game in 08 which he started with 7 carries for 14 yards and finished with over 150
2008?
Jesus you really do think the old Jackson is going to walk through that door. Hahahahahahahaha
He’s done, finished and will be gone after this year.
$8 mill for 245lbs. 30 year old back who has his worst totals since his rookie year last year when he clearly played on a better team then he had the last 3 years, yet his totals were his worst in something like 6 years.
I don’t know football? Please, you’re the idiot bringing up some meaningless game from 2008 when if you actually look at the guys physical ability right now you can easily see he isn’t the same player he was just 2 years ago.
I'm bringing up how he started poorly...
I can’t wait till he comes out and beast this year like he’s going to. He said he thinks he’s in the best shape since his rookie year he just needs to get off the rust and shake off the injury it was literally his first outing after the injury and the first of the preseason what did you expect?
Hey little man
There something wrong with the way your day went that causes you to be verbally abusive. It takes a tough guy to type like that. Too bad you don’t have enough confidence in the content of your argument to avoid this bullshit delivery.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Really kid?
So I didn’t back up my argument with facts? Trends? and a solid history for how the NFL and old running backs work?
Name me one 30 year old back right now that makes close to $8 million who is the feature back of their team that is actually good? Matter of fact name me one from the last 5 years. This Rams front office isn’t stupid they aren’t going to hang onto a player just because the fans like him, the NFL doesn’t work that way, if Jackson finishes with lower totals from last year and doesn’t restructures his contract he’ll be cut, I absolutely guarantee it .
No, you didn't.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Where did I threaten anyone
or talk tough? I’m telling the truth and you people assume that Jackson is still the same player he was 2 years ago when he clearly isn’t. Don’t you think thats a little naive, a little unrealistic? And if he’s such a monster like you all claim, then why was last year his worst numbers wise since his rookie year when he clearly played on a better all around team than he had since 2006? His offensive line was better in 2010 then it had been since 2006, so why his lowest totals?
And I could care less what his numbers were in the a preseason game, I don’t look for stats, I look for ability, explosion, speed and overall talent and he’s lost all of that. He’s not the same player, and he’s literally going to be physically done by the end of the year.
Listen this team would be idiotic to keep around an $8 million dollar player who is past his prime, who doesn’t offer any kind of playmaking ability. Paying an average back superstar money is ridiculous and bad business. If you don;t understand thats not my problem. The NFL absolutely does not care about loyalty it’s all business, Thats why someone like LT can get cut, or Orlando Pace, Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce, Terell Owens, Chad Johnson, etc. When a player’s salary is more than he is producing he becomes a determent to the organization. And that is what Jackson will be next season.
This team is on it’s way up while Steven Jackson is on his way down, the 2 paths were going to cross at some point and 2012 is when they will. Jackson’s time in St.Louis is over after this year. It’s how football works. If you are going to cry about it because you can’t understand that, it’s no my problem.
I didn't say you threatened anyone
And I could give a shit about the points you’re making, although I might if you weren’t such a dick. It’s the way you’re treating good people who have different opinions but share your fandom. I’m merely pointing out that talking this way in a room full of these people would net you different results than the mere verbal replies you’re getting here.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
I don't like what you're saying
BUT, I can see where you are coming from and agree, Jackson won’t be on the team next year. They have quite a few core players they need to lock up; which is also why so many 1 yr contracts. Maybe the Rams will swing a deal in next years draft and get two first round picks for the offense.??
Since his second year,
you look it up.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Jackson is easily 4th on this list
Your crazy frank gore can’t even get on the field and Jonathan stewart isn’t even the best RB on his own team. Darren McFadden had one good year and he’s 4th? Rasheed Mendenhall is a decent runner at best. Arian foster had one good year.
Ray Rice is better than a lot of these guys and you fail to list him
gotta agree with ya there
Gore is watching more than playing. Stewart needs to find a new team. McFadden WOULD BE a beast if not for incurring every possible injury. Mendenall has done well. Foster, although a stud last year, still needs to prove he can do it consistently. Ray Rice and Jamaal Charles are going to be huge for their teams this year
franchize is a 9er fan in disguise!
Don’t feed the troll.
Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.
LFAO grow up kid
I’m just a realist and Jackson isn’t anywhere near as good as people think. He’s an average back with literally no home run ability, no speed, no agility, no explosion and who is losing his power fast. If you’re mad because I of the truth then go back to burying your head in the sand and being content like those other idiot fans who don’t know shit.
This offense needs speed backs, this is not a running team, this team needs a Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson, Darren McFadden etc. type speed who can break off big gains and who don’t necessarily need between the tackles ability.
BY the way, if I’m such a homer why did I fucking demolish that idiot writer who wrote that article calling Bradford’s rookie season mediocre. Hope off, and until you can hang with me on this conversation don’t comment.
lol, i'm not mad
i give you a little shit in 2 sentences and you write me an essay, call me an idiot and say I don’t know shit. hahahaha, you need to calm down, take a deep breath.
Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.
Really?
watch the Sainst v Texans highlights and watch Arian Foster’s 25 yard TD run and tell me Jackson can make that exact same play?
Thought so, NEXT!
Yeah because one run says lot about a player
You are so ignorant it makes me cry inside. Most everyone here knows something about football and we have good discussions about these things you/ the troll seem to be the only one who thinks Jackson is done
I wish we could get rid of you
Well you can't
why u so mad? Because I’m telling the truth? It has nothing to do with one play, it’s how he mad the play, Jackson can not physically do that anymore. The amount of pure homerism that is going on here is unbelievable.
You kids are so dumb is actually funny.
LOL DMC over SJ.
You’re crazy. If Gore is over Foster and Stewart, so is SJ. Those two are at the very least, equal. Still, DMC over all of those guys…HAHAHA
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I would take SJAX over everyone there but AP, CJ and Maybe Jamal Charles only because of speed
Guy hardly gets half his teams carries can’t carry a load to save his life
Ray rice has to be on there somewhere
Jackson and his less than 4 yards a carry
is a monster I guess…haha These dumb kids and their fantasy world.
Are you kidding me?
The ONLY people who would put DMC over SJ are people that play fantasy football LOL. And DMC averaged 3.4 yards per carry just the year before, what a monster 4th overall pick!
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
DMC was picked 4th overall
in one of the easiest positions to transition into in the NFL, and his breakout season was 1,600 yards from scrimmage and 10 touchdowns after not doing jack shit his first two seasons. SJ’s breakout season was 2,300 yards from scrimmage and 16 touchdowns after two very impressive seasons. SJ has also averaged over 100 yards from scrimmage per game since then and is one of the most consistent backs the NFL has seen this decade. He also had 3 less fumbles with 107 more carries. There is no absolutely no question who I would take between the two, regardless of age.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
The wide receiver battle is really intriguing.
Right now I see it this way:
Locks: Amendola, Gibson, Sims-Walker
Likely safe: Avery
Battling it out for the final two (maybe 3 jobs): Alexander, Salas, Pettis
Long shots: Everybody else.
I really do see this team carrying all 7 of the receivers that I mentioned by name. The coaches definitely don’t want to give up Alexander, Salas or Pettis because DX is an incredible talent, and Salas and Pettis are both rookies with a ton of potential. Plus, our receivers tend to get injured a whole lot.
How many did we keep last year? I can think of Clayton, Amendola, Gilyard, Robinson, Gibson, and Curry. I might be missing somebody, but don’t think I am.
Also, with McDaniels as the new offensive coordinator I’d think that he would want to keep more receivers than Shurmur. If he only keeps 6, we will be cutting at least 1 really good young guy.
how is sims-walker a lock?
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
by Buck Nasty87 on Aug 20, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't keep him because of that. The Jaguars didn't do much to keep him.
He’s gotta earn it like any other wideout in the competition.
Over react much?
Hey guys MSW showed his promise as the game went on. If he continues this way then fine but relax…
Definitely depends on how he finishes camp, but if he keeps playing like this
he will make the team.
What you call intriguing I call painful
The starters last night reminded me of the pitful performances last season- lacking any kind separation or causing any stress to the defense. The only good news is it’s onlytbe 2nd week of the preseason. It is painfully obvious we still need to add a top caliber WR.
That TD by Avery was nice. I’d like to see him, Gilyard and DX running with the 1st team next week since we seem dead set on Amendola, Gibson and MSW. I’m really curious on who would stand out.
What do you guys think of the prospect of Sims Walker being cut?
Unthinkable until today. Two more games left and I’m sure he’s rusty, but this wasn’t a game to put in the books for him. Definitely not a starter WR effort.
ehh, I wouldn't be so quick to do that
perhaps his veterany goodness will trickle down onto the newbies.
/tlr
but in all seriousness
I’d give him a bit of time, he’s proven that hecan be outstanding; today might’ve just been a bad day.
LMFAO
Cut because of a couple of bad plays (not to mention the nice 26 yard pickup) after missing most of practice this week with a groin injury and this being his SECOND PRESEASON game in an entirely new offense.
For the love of god why are people going all “sky is falling” on here…
No sky fallin'. There 12 wideout competing here. Theres only one spot in my book that locked down.
Sims Walker isn’t a garauntee. I can see him being given the ’ol pink slip if he keeps this up.
This is everyone's
second preseason game in an entirely new offense.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
The one where Sam was hit low
was by the defensive end Hayes, no blitz. I thought it was Dahl who missed his block but after watching it again, it looks like Smith whiffed, Cadillac stood watching, and Dahl was merely trying to push him after Smith’s whiff. That was the scariest play I’ve witnessed in the SB era…
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Smith was actually fooled
by a linebacker showing blitz, but backing off.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
because it wasn't tom brady
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
horrible missed call there.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know how they could possibly not suit up their 3rd and 4th round picks
this is too young of a team, one that has too many guys coming back from injury, it’s not like they have all kinds of proven hands at WR. Unless Avery takes a step back, he looks like he has a job doing something only he and a healthy DX could do, and that’s keep defenders off the line. And of course, DX is still trying to come back, not surprising since it takes a year of playing to get back to where you were, which is where Avery is now. Man its a good problem to have though.
Kehl, Stewart, Milyard and King were all on the original Chop List. Diggs needs to go too.
MSW and Avery? Meh… It’s a cryin’ shame when Gibson’s looking like our #1 WR. I keep hoping Billy D’s got a plan to bring in a real good WR. Trade some picks and get us a pass catcher. Any time Goldberg’s playing the offense will suffer.
seriously
Did you even see avery play?
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Aug 20, 2011 10:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ya know, you're an annoying @#$. My comments made it clear that I got home from work in the 3rd quarter.
But I can read a recap and other people’s comments and comprehend what went on. Can you?
I watched instead
you used to rail on poeple for looking at stats and getting an opinion…..you’re going to read rookie fan’s comments on a board? hahaha…okay
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha i like how when somebody
Agrees with you they’re good but when they disagree you resort to name calling lol
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Aug 20, 2011 10:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's a guy that I trust and his opinion of Avery. Questionable.
“Jury is out still. First game back he looked rusty, but still had speed
by Douglas M on Aug 20, 2011 8:44 PM PDT upreplyactions”
didnt think so
Because avery did pretty good
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Aug 20, 2011 10:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm convinced ramchop is actually billy devaney.
and just wants to temper expectations.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 20, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
no, there's not going to be any big adds at WR
you can read/listen about it here. I think they’ve got a good crew. I’m thinking the recieving TE is going to make a big difference this year.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
our savior Diles
isn’t looking so hot either. he did have a strong hit tho
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet lol
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
good, look forward to it
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Leber is good
I really liked what I saw from Chamberlain the last two weeks. Jabara Williams too.
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Poppinga
punished an OG on one of those run plays, haven’t seen that from a Rams LB since Fletcher was around. Love this kid.
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
Would you choose Mardy Gilyard over him?:
I might, at this point.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
Gilyard should not make the team this year.
He has shown pretty much nothing to warrant the Rams keeping him.
He sure is making plays on special teams. I do think he's the odd man out though.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
What plays is he making?
His kickoff returns were awful last year and aren’t very good so far this year, his punt return skills are average. Making one or two tackles on a punt does not put him on the team. He’s not even close.
If all things are equal
They’ll take the guy that can make plays as a punt return gunner. I’d say he’s as safe as either of our rookie WRs- which is to say cutting him is just about the same as cutting one of them. Gilyard is making things a lot more interesting than what we thought he would. Can’t really get down on anyone on kick off returns due to the new rule.
Everyone needs to be calm...
it wasnt the most impressive game, but this is week 2 of the preseason after a lengthy lockout. I have read a few post bashing the way we are playing, it is preseason. They havent even began to show the playbook. Why would they show the whole playbook in preseason and give teams the advantage of seeing our offense? The Rams are being conservative, we saw tonight we have the big play ability. I have a feeling once the season starts we will see a complete different Rams team on offense, mcdaniels will open things ups.
It's preseason
under a new offensive playbook, after a lockout. Isn’t it a little early to be doom and gloom?
3443AZ
Are you f-ing kidding me. We threw the ball downfield a shit ton of tiems today and thats conservative?
Who are oyu guys comparing the Rams too. Because against a lot of the teams i saw today we are doing pretty damn good in the preseason minus the run defense in this second game.
Sick and tired of the “sky is falling” “sell the farm for player X” guys because its fucking ridiculous. Grow up and think before oyu post sometimes.
Guys arent going to be open on every play and by comparison we had some guys getting open tonite including Avery and the like.
Telling me to calm down
about Sam’s ACL nearly being told, calm down over his post…
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
torn*
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, people are definitely overreacting, to say the least.
You don’t get very many chanes to perform as a player in a preseason game. One or two screw-ups (or, on the flip-side, amazing performances) shouldn’t be the deciding factor for anything.
that never happens here
because of the vast expereince our fans have
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
To all saying that we might cut Sims-Walker, no
Ask anyone who isn’t out of there mind, he would have to really suck to not make this team with the crap we have at receiver. Granted, he had some really bad plays, but he would have caught that ball if he had turned his head faster, which considering he missed most of the week of practice it isn’t that suprising his timing is off. And are you all forgetting that he had the only good play basically by the first team after the 86 yarder?
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Would you keep him if 7 other wideouts outperformed him this preseason?
This is the NFL, which means ‘Not For Long’. What you did in the past only gets you so far.
No..
But seven other receivers have not outperformed him for one.
For two what idiot cuts guys based off of one down performance that was clearly a result of lack of timing and bad judgement that the guy has shown no pattern of having.
You must have been the kid who cried at Wal-Mart when mom didn’t buy you every two you said oyu wanted…
Really?
Crying at Wal-Mart jokes over a MSW disagreement?
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I just saw that play about three more times.
It had nothing to do with him not turning his head, he had already turned in his route when Sam threw it. Just a dropped pass in traffic, a terrible play by him, no excuses.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Aug 20, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The dropped pass is bad, but it the proceeds
To bounce off a bunch of people, it was a bad play and there was a lot o bad luck involved too. People are overreacting
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 10:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It was a forced throw
Sam would tell you it was a mistake our a risk that wasn’t worth taking. The good thing is Sam put it on the money and it should have been a catch. At certain pints of a game you like to see your QB cowboy up and attempt throws like this… just not right after jumping out to a quick lead. But hell it’s the preseason so why not let it fly and see what happens.
hehe
I decided to get the points in with the wife and spend tonight as family night. We went to the county fair, and I taught my wife some old Louisiana farm tricks (Never sideshade a hog before it goes to sleep at night. It won’t eat as much in the morning, and a big morning feed saves slop).
So without watching a second of the game tonight, let me just say – the game threads were great reads. I’ll see if I can get a copy tomorrow; if not, I’ll watch it on Monday.
Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan
I gotta say I wasn't all that impressed with MSW tonight. Hopefully he improves over next two games.
me either
didnt look anywhere as good as I thought he would be. i would have rather seen DX play instead
Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...
by MyACLisBrittle on Aug 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think what I saw overall was a lack of smoothness in the whole offense. They didn't look on the same page. They almost looked frantic at times?
I have to admit i watched the game since around half time
but you’re right. the TD catch was nice, but i thought the offense in general could do a lot better. How did the starters do?
Starters looked sad ...
Except for Gibson’s big catch
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Two more games to work out the kinks
it could be explained by the weight of the playbook as a whole showing the lack of OTAs ultimate cost? Our DTs need some work. They were letting Tenn. open holes I could run through. If Chris Johnson had hit those holes he would have been long gone. Our OLBs got caught over pursuing (Diggs was absolutely embarrassed on one play he was so out of position).
This whole preseason
is one big catch-up routine, especially for teams with new coaches and playbooks. Not to take anything from the Titans.
3443AZ
well you did, you just TOOK it from them
and they’ll never forgive you
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How could you tell?
He caught two balls and was only thrown to like 3 times. The ball he didn’t catch was underthrown by Feeley..
I thouhgt he looeked pretty good. really nice touchdown grab finding a soft spot and realizing that the corner didn’t know the ball was coming.
When a player goes in the game I'm interested in I re-play the play a couple of times...
…so I can see what they did on a route or block. I had five people I wanted to watch tonight for a post later this next week. Avery was one of them. Pettis, MSW, and Gilyard were other WRs I focused on.
Avery looked fine.
But he didn’t start. Look for him to start next week.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Aug 20, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that is a thoughtful, lucid argument that I'm sure no one will argue against whether they saw the game or not.
hahaha -- you remember that too
yeah that was funny, wasnt it? I even laughed.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow all the fighting!
Jeez kids settle down, it’s going to be ok, Sjax is just fine, the D will be fine, some WR’s will fill out the starting role nicely now that the deep threat is finally back and TE has a really good receiving option.
There’s no need to panic after preseason game #2. There’s a long way to go and the roster is a lot better than last year’s.
Thad Lewis
will be a great #2 QB in the next year or two
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guess I missed all the comotion lol
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people arguing, as if....
the Rams lost, or
the game counted, or
the team lost a bunch of talent instead of added some, or
……..you name it
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL! Is this fun or what! Just wait for the night before the Philly game. We'll be having sympathy pulled muscles
Its a hellofa lot better than losing, thats fer sure
we can all argue through a winning season if thats what it takes
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Hear! Hear!
This is going to be a great season. A long season too. I think I’m going to do more fiction posts. Something to break the tension…
Yeah, 2nd straight year he's led a game-winning drive in the preseason.
He’s got ice water in his blood vessels.
There I go again?
What’s that supposed to mean? I completely agreed with you yet it seems you responded with a hostile post.
I think we need to work on our communication.
Neither of those two posts were meant to be sarcastic. I just realized that my second post sounds extremely douchebaggy. I swear that I was being nice on that post.
Seriosuly though, on Thad, I don't see why they should keep him at the QB3
QB’s need to play some to get up to speed, it’s a position that needs seasoning. If they don’t put him at QB2 he won’t get the practice he needs to be competent. Just my 2C.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Thad will get to play 2nd string in the 4th preseason game
Sam will either sit out or play only one series. I think the plan is to move him up as the back up next year and cut Feeley’s big salary- heck you could argue we should do it this year if there was someone worth getting if we cleared a few million off the cap.
And you wanted to cut him earlier today
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I need you to phrase that battle
I wasn’t aware that we were considering playing Nelson as a DT
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm an OU fan, so I can promise you Nelson was a Safety
I think he actually was an all Big 12 safety last year
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Its PRESEASON...
Just saying WTF, they are nt as good as they looked last week or as bad as they looked tonite. I thought we go a little fancy with our protection probably tryin to air it out. Over purued on defense but NO injuries & more tape to break down. Ooh & Avery looks back.
Not to mention the MSW did have that 26 yard play
Even if he did have the pick early, he made the only big play that didn’t involve really bad defense
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Avery ran a heady route to find the soft spot in that D for a TD
I think very underrated due to the fact that he beat his man with a burst but didn’t accelerate into the Safety.
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Guidugli got some time at FB and he looked ugli
Tried to block a LB with his shoulders and let him slid off single-handedly collapsing the hole for Toston. I don’t think I’ve seen Stumon on the field once.
This may be Britt Miller’s job.
Was that Guidugli on that play?
I thought it was but the number didn’t seem to be right for a TE- it was 40-something I thought. Perhaps I’m remembering a different play.
Alright everyone
I’m finally here. Can someone quickly recap the 274 posts from above, and the couple thousand from tonights game?
Gibson had an 83 yd td. Sims Walker allowed a pick, also had a 26 yd catch
Fraley sucks major ass, the d-line didn’t look all that good. Gilyard is still an idiot. And we really need Leber to join the starters. And at some point we started arguing about Adrian Peterson vs Steven Jackson
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, and Avery is fast and RamChop is pessimistic
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you kindly
I’ll assume there was a large Ram Fan battle tonight, and no one likes each other anymore?
man you'd think
I’m guessing its a Saturday and some guys are drinking…..or smoking carck, you know, something like that
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a shame
It looked to me like the game started with an 83 yard TD, and ended with a 1 point win
…..what’s the bad?
well apparenly Steven Jackson just plain sucks and nobody has ever caught a pass
goes along with they don’t have any balance on the offense and blockingwhat’s blocking?
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Da FranchiZe Depresses ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STEVEN JACKSON is the #1 Ram
Go RAMs !!!
Yes, someone said Steven Jackson sucks now
Someone said, “who would you rather have?” I said Adrian, they said I was wrong in that opinion, the OU fan in me decided to defend my guy against a site of homers, and everyone fell apart from there
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 20, 2011 11:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ahhhhhh
it’s like the ‘Vick sucks’ thing that everyones jumpin on….
Yea, that AP really fumbles a lot…….I’d never want him!
that's EXACTLY it
you’ve captured the very essence on the Ram’s bulletin board fandom!
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Please don't restart this
And I know you’re probably being sarcastic, but he had like 1 last year that most people agree was cause Favre screwed up the handoff
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe he's with you on that
the over-reacting thing….
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Winner of the Most Cynical Board of the Year
year in and year out
by CoachConnors on Aug 20, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
The sky is falling we almost lost a preseason game. Apparently SJ is washed up 7 we still dont have in weapons for Sam.
And Sam was almost lost for the season
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not that we're competitive or anything...
Over at the Titan’s SBNation site they aren’t in our league when itcomes to commenting till dawn! When I checked the post-game thread comment totals: TST 300+ – Titan’s 23
Maybe we should do the wave? lol No, if we stand up too fast we may pull muscles…
Enjoy you're 3rd string qb
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Now this brings us to the REAL reason for anarchy.....
what the hell was Josh McDaniels thinkign when he spent a 1ST ROUND PICK on freakin’ TEBOW??
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It had me worried when he became our OC. Took a while to get on the Hendrick bandwagon because of his Tebow pick
ok, so I'm not the only one, thank you
Seriously, I havwe to wonder WTH…that was a very questionable pick.
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we've figured out that Kendricks is better than Tebow
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
well yeah
I’m just saying, that was might was expensive for the Broncos
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I mean..."that was mighty expensive for the Broncos"
He set a booby trap for them, set to implode slowly as the next couple of years unfold…
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Why doesnt everyone just turn it on Napoleon Dynamite
on Comedy Central, have a good laugh, and let’s just put this whole winning thing behind us
by DCRamFan on Aug 21, 2011 12:03 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Now you want to start the debate about whether that movie is actually funny or not?
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
fuck you
no its not
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
by Buck Nasty87 on Aug 21, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
No it isn't
And neither is Will Ferrell
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No it isn't!
And neither is Will Ferrell!
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tebow
i was watchin nfl network and it said he came in during the fourth quater with the number 3’s did he get demoted or something
Yeah, and Quinn actually looked good with the 2s
Tebow may end up 3rd durin the regular season
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:05 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
damn what was mcdaniels smokin when he drafted him lol a first round qb demoted to third string thats a bust
its been rumored he's dropping like a rock
down the depth chart.
Which brings us to why McvDaniels drafted him and how the hell didd the Rams end up with McDaniels?? MCDANIELS!!
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Id laugh my ass off at that
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Steven Jackson is no Barry Sanders!!!
I have the tapes to prove it!
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I haven't seen enough to really say anything
I have missed out on games (thanks Comcast) and only seen a sketchy stream.
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Quick aggressive LB. His problem is his weight. He ended his senior year at 210 lbs. Came to camp at a reported 223lbs
The college book on him was he suffered against big OTs and TE on run plays. But he’s very quick to the ball. Tat’s all I know about him really.
I have heard guys talk about him so I'm on the lookout
First tape I watch will be looking for him.
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
All a ploy
They say he’s #3 in preseason, and then like Jesus from behind a boulder BAM! First string come season opener….
…parting D-Lines like the Red Sea
by DCRamFan on Aug 21, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"like Jesus from behind a boulder"
ah, that’s utter poetry
by CoachConnors on Aug 21, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, i havent been to church in a while
that might’ve actually been Napoleon Dynamite that came from behind a boulder
Napoleon Dynamite has quite a long range
but from behind a boulder? Well I gotta see that.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
I wasn't aware Boulder splitting was a Jesus specialty
That whole coming back from the dead thing impressed me a little bit more
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone think that the Titans fans are up celebrating their loss tonight?
because for the most part, I thought everyone enjoyed the friendly banter on here..
not certain how a win, no matter how sloppy, is so controversial.
I know its the playoffs, er, preseason and all
It's a big family here. Just an excuse to get together and have some football banter, nothing more.
DCRamFan, you’re welcome here any time. The best to you and the Broncos this year!
Thanks buddy!
I appreciate you guys understanding my fairweather-ness. Continue to enjoy your undefeatedness this preseason….
I don’t know how you put up with it
I'm trying to drink enough of these Anchor Steams
to catch up on the anger. I can feel it coursing through my veins….
And I wanna be a Rams fan again. Will you guys have me back?
Are you going to want to fight me because we won?
Cuz if not, I’ll just drop it by. I’m in Washington D.C. and I’m getting in my car now…
The Steel Reserves will keep
plus my c-c-cooler is Coleman. Hold’s ice like a champ! What’s the address?
Hey the Superbowl, eeeerrrrr Preseason game #3 is next week!
Or is every game, the Superbowl? Hmmmm, can’t quite remember now.
Nevermind! : )
sunglasses and advil
last night was mad real
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
Do you guys know if it takes a while for my icon
to change from Marshall Faulk dancin into the end zone to the Tim Tebow statue at UF?
I’m not seein the switch
Can an author, editor, or manager of this site
please argue with me about how I think that Mardy Gilyard is going to have a better career than Jerry Rice?
what is there to argue
id already put gilyard above rice
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
by Buck Nasty87 on Aug 21, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
and if you think you're ready for that challenge, I'll say this
my first point, which I’ll already consider in your face, is dreads out of the helmet
….boom
Next time you see Gilyard walk off the field next to a teammate, compare their helmet sizes. Mardy's is HUGE to hold all that hair
but if you ever want to start a drive at the 16 i know a guy
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
by Buck Nasty87 on Aug 21, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
What if I like starting drives at the 15?
It gives Sam 5 more yards to add to his stats
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
15,14, 6.....anything under 20 hes your guy
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."
by Buck Nasty87 on Aug 21, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
By that standard
Al Harris is the mother picking best play ever
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 21, 2011 12:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait a minute! You used the word "Nil"... Your actually a soccer mom aren't you? You've come here to drive us back to honey-do lists!
How does this thread work??
486 posts arguing about a win? Damn, I gonna hate to see it when we lose!
If we don't go 16-0
I’m gonna do an 8 ball, listen to Rage against the machine, get on this site, and most likely…
…eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and watch a zombie movie
that was a rough loss
but WHO IS better……….Peterson or SJAX?
I missed it, it’s 2am, let’s start it over…
lol
that was a funny ass argument idk how it got started though lol
You see Saffold's block on that first TD!?!
Watch Saffold push this guy to the other side of the tackle box!! http://www.stlouisrams.com/media-center/videos/Bradford-Goes-for-Big-Air/7d51ffef-e7a6-497d-9139-38b3e349dcaf
Hey, Butler's pick wasn't bad, and the J.L. sack was pretty good too.!
Hey isn’t Adrian Jackson better than Steven Peterson?
Or is it the other way around? Or is it the med’s? Dunno anymore.
SJax, cause he’s one of us, then AP ……: )
O-line?!
Everyone is complaining about running backs an receivers….if the o line can’t hold up at the point of attack then plays can’t develop on passing plays and holes don’t open on running plays. Offense looked terrible tonight DUE to the O-LINE! Get rid of Fraley, Foster, and Goldberg. They’re worthless and gonna get somebody hurt
by Rcoon1307 on Aug 21, 2011 1:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yes the thought of say Saffold or Bell going down for a significant amount of time is frightening.
unfortunately we’re kind of stuck with this frightening reality unless we can find some better offensive linemen off the street. Just have to hope we can have a little luck and/or can scheme around our weak links.
avery looked good cant wait to see him run when the season starts, sj39 was just warming up , oline looked bad but fraley really looked terrible. i love Thad lewis and onobun. i hate our rookie WRs but i know the team will keep them. d looked bad but you could see none of the starters really cared at all tonight but i played so i know preseason games are not really the most fun to get up for. cant wait for the season thou gonna be fun. to the SJ39 haters you guys are really retarded , dont bother responding to me cuz i dont wanna argue with ppl who think the best player on a team will play 100 or even 50 percent in his first preseason game lol go read a book and raise your IQ

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