Some People Will Never Give Credit to the Rams where Credit is DUE!
by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 11:24 AM CDT
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Mike Sims-Walker has scored 7 TDs in each of the past two seasons.
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"Fantasy thoughts: It’s not going out on a limb to say that QB Sam Bradford will eventually be one of the top quarterbacks both in regular and fantasy football.
His rookie season was strong as he finished with 18 TD passes and 15 interceptions. However, if you’re looking for significant growth this season, you’ll probably be disappointed. The Rams are still working to improve the foundation of their team. The only receiver of substance they added in free agency was Mike Sims-Walker, who has yet to top 900 yards in three seasons. Sims-Walkers has good hands and runs nice routes, but he’s just a No. 2 receiver. He is not a deep threat or explosive. That’s a good addition for the Rams, but they could still use a legit downfield guy and are cautiously hoping that Mark Clayton, who was off to a nice start last season in the first five games, will re-sign and return from a knee injury at some point.
Clayton visited the team Tuesday, but coach Steve Spagnuolo said Clayton is still a long way from getting healthy.
The upshot in all of this is Bradford figures to make steady improvement. But if you’re looking for 25 to 30 TD passes, that’s a stretch. Heck, the most important thing for the Rams to do this season is improve the overall efficiency of the passing game, primarily hoping to up the average yards per pass attempt from last season, when it was only 6.0.
WR Danny Amendola finished with 85 receptions last season, so he looks great for PPR leagues. However, he gained only 689 yards on those catches for an average of only 8.1 yards. In two seasons, he has averaged only 7.9 yards on 128 catches and has only four touchdowns. In the right offense, Amendola would be a nice No. 3/slot receiver. Making him a starter exposes his limitations, particularly when there isn’t another premier receiver in the lineup.
Steven Jackson has totaled 644 carries the past two seasons.
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It should be no surprise that RB Steve Jackson, who last season topped the 1,400-yard mark in rushing and receiving for the fourth time in the past five seasons, is still the top weapon in the Rams’ offense. Even with backups Cadillac Williams and Jerious Norwood around, Jackson figures to get another 325 carries. However, the thing to watch is that Jackson, who is entering his eighth season, averaged only 3.8 yards per carry in ’10, the lowest of his career.
Line still in work: The Rams are hoping OT Jason Smith, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft, will take another step forward, particularly after the team signed RG Harvey Dahlas a free agent. Smith, who originally was drafted to be a left tackle, moved to the right side last season. With Smith, Dahl, C Jason Brown, LG Jacob Bell and LT Rodger Saffold, the Rams have the making of an excellent offensive line, which was the top priority for GM Billy Devaney. Smith could be the key in helping the group go from very good to great.
"The expectations that go when you take a lineman that high are enormous," Devaney said. "Jason has been really good and when we took him, we thought he had more upside than a lot of guys because he was a little young and raw. I really see another step coming from him."
Despite the lack of a deep threat on offense, don’t look for the Rams to make a panic move. Some have suggested that the Rams make a move for a player like WR Randy Moss. That’s not going to happen, even though the team seriously considered trading for Vincent Jackson last year when San Diego was toying with the idea of shipping him."
Hmmm... seriously? No significant growth for Bradford? 25 to 30 TD passes a long-shot? Sometimes I believe sports writers have a deep hatred for the St. Louis Rams! If you take a look at the video below, it shows how teams knew that St. Louis had no downfield threat; teams like Oakland blitzed safeties off the edge to put pressur eon Sam Bradford. I don't see this happening this year. Do you?
Sam BRADFORD at Oakland Raiders 2010 W2 (via NFLScouting)
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i dont expect what I saw last season at all. I expect the rams to open up the field with spread and two te offenses and make defenses respect us. The passing game and o-line will open it up for jackson. MCD is a great oc unlike shurmur who believed in field goals and 3 yard screen passes. Yet as predictable and boooooring as shurmur’s offense was the rams still came close to the playoffs.With an abundance of offensive power, a chessmaster calling plays And what looks like a scary defense, the rams wont look anyhting at all like they did the last 6 years.
by thefrymasta on Aug 10, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
There is a lot of excitement going on about our offense
But I’m more excited about our defense. We haven’t had solid defense in what seems like forever. Now we have what looks like solid DBs in Bartell, Fletcher and Mikell. Solid LBs with Animal Jr, Diles and Leber. A solid line with Long, Hall, Quinn, Robbins and a rotation of decent DTs and DEs. I can’t wait to see if they can put it all together and move us into a top 10 defense.
Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.
The Rams get no credit yet because
last years sub .500 team has yet to deserve it. I’m not saying I don’t think that this years team will be any good but the still haven’t earned the respect yet. And at this point no credit is due. Bradford is going to be great. No arguing there. But they have yet to prove he’ll have anyone to throw to that will get him those 30 TDs. At this point we really only have Bradford and Jackson. Sure there’s Amendola but he’s still only a #3 guy. So at this point I would agree with people that there’s not a lot to talk about with the Rams as far as being good until we put it on the field.
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actually at this point… Amendola is the starter WR in 2 WR set along with Gibson… and there is credit DUE to the acquisitions the F made in bolstering the line, adding 3 WRs with Sims-Walker, Pettis, and Salas with the sleeper Lance Kendricks steping up EVERY practice so even tho they havent “proven” it they STILL deserve credit for taking notice of our weaknesses and putting guys there to help instead of having to rely on DX and Gibson allllllllllllll season trying to go deep…. did u not watch the video?
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't watch the video. At work.
And no credit due do to the fact that Pettis, Salas, and Kendricks have a combined total of 0 NFL game snaps. I don’t care if those 3 combined for 1 million yards and 500 TDs in practice if they haven’t or can’t translate that to an actual NFL game. And it’s not like Sims-Walker has been putting up fantastic numbers over his career. He’s not even a lock to make the team so his value as a signing has also yet to be seen. Practice is just a tad bit different then actually playing a full NFL game. So they’ve earned nothing so far. Sure the Dahl addition on the line is going to be an improvement. But so what. Jackson was already running for 1400 yards a season. So while the upgrade at guard is an improvement it’s not going to be the reason we win games. And yes the defense will probably be better. But once again at this point who really, truly, honestly knows. Do you? Yes you can hope and think that this season the defense will be better. I do too. But the facts are that this group hasn’t played a single NFL down together as a group. So what are you giving credit to? I’ll give the team credit for going out and making some moves and a couple draft picks that look to be decent. But as far as how that translates to winning games has yet to be seen. And winning, not practice, is what will earn this team credit. And one 7-9 team over a 4 year stretch earns you nothing.
by cgerken44 on Aug 10, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you are a young guy cgerken, you can cure some of your cynicism like this-
THINK RELATIVE-When you see a beautiful girl with a body to die for, is your first thought “Man, I would LOVE to fu*k that-I bet she would be fantastic!!” OR do you think “Man, I bet she stinks and needs a bath, and needs to brush her teeth!!”
It’s how you let your mind control you or you control your mind.
Rams fans that are always positive (sometimes overly) choose which way to interpret the facts presented to be happy-
Rams fans that are always negative can look at the same facts and be cylindrical to make them happy.
It’s all about how you look at her ass.
Think about what can be, not about what might not be. You can’t get laid when you got a limp dick!!
by Ram newbee on Aug 10, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I liked that. I actually laughed out loud at that.
I guess I’m young. 25. So I guess I’m young. But I would like to think that I am knowledgeable.
And I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying the team sucks. Or isn’t going to be good. I’m saying so far at this point they’ve done nothing to say that they are which is why they’re not getting the love from the media.
So your analogy doesn’t really work. Think of it like this. I see a super hot chick and want to F her retarded. But I have never personally F’d a chick that hot. So I don’t just assume that I can. I would like to hope and believe that if I put the required effort into it I could. But at this point there’s nothing for me to base my chances on.
And I’m not trying to be a pessimist. I’m trying to be a realist and just point to facts that would explain why the Rams are getting no media attention. You can’t talk about how large your dick is so everyone will suck it if time after time it’s only been below average and one time average. And you can say you’ve been taking the enlargement pills and gotten the enlargement surgery all you want but until you put that monster on some chicks forhead nobodies going to believe you. (I felt like I had to have some sort of an analogy like that after yours)
I enjoyed your response-
If it made you laugh, then that’s what makes me happy. Crap, if I knew anything about football, I would post meaningful incites loaded with meaningless facts, and mis-directed assumptions. (He He-then I would fit right in!)
Nope-that's something that I do with regularity-
My password is “Facts? I don’t need no stinking facts!!”
I think newbee is talking about
the fans who spend 30 hours reading statistics and 3 hours watching the game, compared to fans who spend 3 hours watching the game and 30 hours looking for that Super Hot Chick.
3443AZ
Hot chick?!
WHERE!?
Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.
You will still try, right?
I agree with your earning respect assesment and it will come soon enough for the Rams.
As for the girl “to die for” except for your very own attraction they may OR may not be all that. One will rock your world and another will be a 2×4 with the knot missing.
So basically youre assumption is like saying.......
The Eagles arent a good squad til they prove it “together” right?
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinda. But not really the same.
The Eagles have not proven anything this year. So why would you assume they are going to be great? But at the same time you have a better body of work from players that they aquired to judge them by. Saying that the Rams are going to be great because Salas, Pettis, and Kendricks have done some good things in practice is asinine. Those three haven’t proven anything beyond being able to make some catches in practice. And Sims-Walker isn’t even a lock to make THIS team so why would we judge the quality of the team based on his merits?
Look I’m not saying I want this team to be bad or that I even THINK this team will be bad. But nobody on this team has team anything spectacular besides Jackson and Bradford so why would you just assume we’re going to be an awesome team based on a few unproven draft picks and a couple FA pick ups? That’s why that haven’t gotten any credit. You give credit where credit is do and a team that went 7-9 hasn’t earned credit yet.
Thats were you wrong...
My whole point isnt to say the Rams will go 16-0 and win the Superbowl. Its the FACT that they made a tremendous effort to improve so why will they still be subpar according to this Yahoo writer?
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes they made effort and picked up some guys in the draft that show promise.
And they made an effort to sign some solid FAs. But you can put all the EFFORT in you want but if you can’t translate that to wins then it was all for nothing. And there’s no proof at this point that it will. Look you can put in all the effort you want to bang gisele bundchen but if you don’t or can’t stick your donger in her then you’re still ugly and you get no credit. See what I’m saying?
yeaa...
ur tryna say what Ram newbee jux said to u i get it…
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes sense
Just cause you put in the effort to F some hot chick doesn’t mean that everybody is going to kiss your ass. That’s based on whether you do or not. You’re assuming we’re going to be great or whatever just because we tried. But that doesn’t guarentee anything
That fact that you keep maing the same statement over and over DOESNT make sense
once again Sam Bradford will get better and improve behind a solid O-line and MORE receivers to throw to… thats where they deserve credit… they gave him more weapons to work with! Just to say Matt Ryan has another weapon with Julio Jones and he hasnt played a NFL game yet so y r they saying ATL offense will be much better???
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Bradford has been blatantly honest about the credit the Rams deserve.
He bristles at people saying we had a good year in 2010 at 7-9. He only positive statement was that we “improved.”
Wow big surprise there,
a player on a team that finished 7-9 the previous year doesn’t say to the media that the previous season was a good one.
Don't forget to turn your swag on today.
Ok now im confused...
So “Rams fans” are agreeing that Sam Bradford wont improve on his game from last year? That our team as a whole wont improve from last year? Those “fans” baffle me! Yea i said it… BAFFLE! to think you have no since of facts to even watch the video and see why the possibility of adding 3 new WRs thats potentially a deep threat “til they prove it” doesnt mean the Rams dont deserve credit for addressing the needs to stop the shyt thats happening in the above video…………… XUZ THEY DO! And yes rather he has the same Rams team from last year or this year acquisitions, Sam Bradford WILL improve his game based on his knowledge of the game and growth throughout last season and it showed… especially against seattle in week 17… he put balls on the money to guys like DX and Robinson and they just flat out dropping them,,, y? idk! but he improved throughout the season and under Josh McDaniels he can only get better!
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 4:48 PM CDT reply actions
I agree that Bradford will be better.
And the key word here is potential. Yes all the draft picks have the POTENTIAL to be better than what we had. Do I hope they translate that potential to proven talent? Hell yes I do. But until then you can’t say this team is going to be better. You have NO facts to back that up at this point. You show me one FACT that says this team is going to be better because of any of the players you mentioned before and show me how they’re going to do so great in the NFL that the team will be better and I’ll eat my words. Did we get guys that will make this team better? Of course. Dahl and Mikell were great additions. And they will def make the team around them better. But that’s based on nothing but opinion and hope.
And as far as being a “fan” I’ve been to every St Louis Rams game minus maybe 5-10 since they’ve been here so I’m pretty sure I can call myself a fan.
There you go....
The fact that you agree that Bradford will be better sums up the whole point of writing this article… Everything else being said is redundant..
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
I AM STILL talking about givin credit where credit is due
the FO gave Sam Bradford weapons = He will get better
Josh McDaniels as new OC = He will get better
studies the game day and night = HE WILL GET BETTER
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Bradford can get better all he wants
But if Salas and Pettis and Kendricks and Sims-Walker turn out to suck then IT DOES NOT MATTER AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF PROOF THAT SHOWS THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN ANYONE WE HAD LAST YEAR. Therefore no extra credit earned. Only time and playing the games on Sunday will tell if the effort put into the draft and FA signings meant anything. Up until then why would someone say that this team with unproven WRs will be better than they were last year? It makes no sense. You wouldn’t do that with any other team. You wouldn’t sit here and say that any other such and such team will be better this year because they drafted some such and such guy in the 5th round but their QB is good so that’s the only thing that matters would you? And Julio Jones is on a different level than Salas and Pettis. So that comparison is moot.
And I’m not arguing it Bradford will get better!? There’s no doubt in my mind that he’ll be better! But so MFing what if nobody else is better!! And nobody else that matters has proven they’re better. Bradford could very well be capable of throwing 100 TD passes this year but that will not make a damn bit of difference if nobody is there to catch them!! And you have no proof that anybody will be there that’s above and beyond what we had last year.
dude! enough already man. your not impressed with the rams...we get it!
by Mark Jaramillo on Aug 10, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You're incorrect
I’m a huge Rams fan and I think that they will be better this year. My point is that they get no credit from the media because they have yet to prove anything. Simple point.
If I'm understanding cgerken
he’s saying we should have high hopes and expectations for our team, but we can’t expect positive media attention until we start winning games. Seams reasonable to me. A winning season would do wonders.
Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.
People talkn about the Sophomore slump this and that...
The FO makes efforts to make their QBs better… trying to win games based on talent alone wont get anyone anywhere… Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees got better because they got more weapons and continues to study the game thats why the continue to GET better, as well as Sam Bradford… if you continue to nicpick with a QB til he succeeds and make no effort to give him more options, he will suffer a sophomore slump and never get out of it i.e. Alex Smith, Matt Leinart, JaMarcus Russell… Sam Bradford wont see that
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by Moneyy Mayweather on Aug 10, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
There's that @#$%ing phrase again. Everyone needs to stop saying ****more slump.
Where’s my prison shank?
Two things about me will never change. I will always root for the Rams, and I will always root against the Niners.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Aug 10, 2011 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
Even I said 25-30 TD passes.
If the running game performs as I expect, Brad will find alot of guys open for pass receptions.
i also picked 25-30
If the running game does as good as I think and this passing game does as good as everyone think he’ll get his tds.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
by RG31 on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The title of this post brought to mind how different things are now that the new ownership group and front office are entrenched. I’m an OLD Rams fan and my first favorite players were Jack Snow and Roman Gabriel. When Georgia took over the team after JKC died, we found out that she had to make the franchise profitable with as little investment as possible. The Rams have drafted pretty well for core players, even through the lean years, but with a few notable exceptions the skill players needed didn’t seem to pan out. I guess Tory Holt changed all that.
So, we went into this season needing WR help, LB help, a DT stud, upgrades at OG, TE and DB—and maybe RB change of pace. As we go into pre-season play, I see that those areas we didn’t draft, we killed ’em in free agency. I really think the front office has done a great job filling the roster needs. Not only that but we seem to have gotten younger and more athletic at LB (Lieber adding experience) and WR. I can hardly wait until later in the pre-season to get a look at our quality personnel. If the injury bug will stay under control and not hit us where it hurts—we can be the surprise of the NFL. Go Rams—good job FO.
Does it not remind you a little bit of when Carrol took over?
That was a very quick turnaround but then the biggest problem was the genious ex UCLA coach.
He made changes quickly that brought results. I think thats what I’m seeing now.
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