Why the Mike Sims-Walker signing is looking good now
Free agency was looking boring after the Rams signed Quintin Mikell; then the Rams surprised everyone by signing Mike Sims-Walker to a one-year contract. It seemed like the Rams would be okay with the guys they had on the roster, and the assumed forthcoming Mark Clayton re-signing. The Rams later said that Mark Clayton knee wasn't fully healed. The move to sign Mike Sims-Walker, with that in mind, made more sense.
I won't lie -- I was not a fan of the move. To me, adding him to the roster was like throwing away a receiver with potential. Then, I came to a big revelation. This could be the smartest move the Rams have made all free agency.
So after the jump, I will talk about why I wasn't happy about the move, and why it makes perfect sense.
The Criticism: For a player who is pegged to be a potential number one receiver, his stats don't reflect it. He was injured for his entire rookie season. In his sophomore season, he recorded 16 catches in 9 games. Okay, first season playing in the NFL, that is understandable. In 2009, Mike teamed with Torry Holt, and had his best season finishing with 63 catches, and 869 yards. Then last season, while battling a high ankle injury, Mike registered, 43 receptions, and 562 yards.
The most important thing that stuck out to me, was the fact that the Jaguars let him go. If he's such a good player, why cut him if you have questions on who will replace him?
Here are two quotes from Brian Levenson at Big Cat Country.
[His suitors] won't realize that [Sims-Walker] has the tendency to disappear in games, or that he struggles at times holding on to the ball, they'll just see a receiver with good physical talent and want him.
In 2010, he was playing through an ankle injury. Ok, that's all fine and good, but he still only had two great games. 10 for 105 mostly in garbage time against the Chargers and 8 for 153 against Dallas who were just an absolutely terrible team at that point in the season. Remove those two games and Sims-Walker made 25 catches for 304 yards over 12 games. Most importantly, in his four year career, MSW has 1,648 yards. I don't want to pay Sims-Walker to be a number one receiver.
Now, the Rams aren't paying Mike Sims-Walker number one receiver money. But, what if he has a great year? The Rams will have to pay a lot of money to keep him. Wouldn't it make more sense to give him a 2 or 3 year deal just in case?
Yes, Mike did have a 800-yard season, but he had a good wide receiver and a good tight end helping him . Basically, what we get in Mike is more potential at wide receiver. That is a good thing, but don't the Rams already have a boatload of potential in our wide receivers?
You can make excuses for him. You can say David Gerrard isn't a Sam Bradford, and that is true. But let's not make it seem like Gerrard is a horrible QB. You can say the injures slowed him down. I would agree to that, but the Rams already have injury prone guys. Why bring in another?
Also, for all the flak Brandon Gibson gets, it's easy to forget that he was a 2nd-year player last season. He went from practice squad, to a starting lineup -- that's not very easy to do. You might say Mike can be a number one based on 2009 stats, but what about Gibson's 2010 stats: 620 yards, and 2 touchdowns. Not bad for a 2nd-year receiver right? Also, remember he only played 14 games.
Why the move makes sense: I was in the process of writing a article comparing Mike Sims-Walker and Brandon Gibson, then I started thinking why? I realized that, bringing Mike means anyone could get cut, even him. This is a competition of the best, not on potential, or Tevin's favorite Ram.
After last season, the Rams shouldn't care about the last seasons wide receivers potential; it should be about who will produce with Sam Bradford. Could you blame the team if they cut a player who can't contribute much, but will in a couple of years? Let's not forget the Rams were humiliated on offense in their first prime time game in a long time.
Looking at the position from a distance, you have two rookies and a 2nd round pick that missed all of last season who will be entering his 4th season, but still hasn't proved anything. A player who has a lot of talent, but more surgeries than touchdowns. A slot receiver who has only had one good year. A 4th round pick last year, that the team isn't exactly high on. Then a player who is entering his 3rd season, but was inconsistent last season. Yeah it's more question marks than anything, and everyone has a chance to be a starter.
For all the stats I pulled up on Mike Sims-Walker, I saved the last one for now. Mike has 14 touchdowns combined the last two years. Now lets compare Mike's 2010 season to the Rams, the Rams had five receivers score 10 touchdowns, Mike Sims-Walker had 7 by himself. Wow, and 2010 he played with a high ankle sprain.
The biggest reason why Mike was a great pickup by the Rams is that he is a great insurance policy. The Rams WRs have been known to get injured. It's fun to speculate that this player will do good, but no one knows yet. The last thing the Rams need is a repeat of what happened after Mark Clayton went down.
Does bringing Mike Sims-Walker mean that Sam Bradford finally has a number one receiver? Maybe. But If Mike can be a reliable target, the Rams should be happy and try to re-sign him. But of course, that's a long time from now.
Right now, let's say that Mike Sims-Walker, is a low risk, but high reward signing.
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None of MSW's contract is guaranteed either.
He can be cut for free.
I see him having a pretty good year, then signing somewhere else for too much money.
He’s a Jet or a Raider next year.
In the meantime, he’ll help us.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
Or once we see that he is having a good year....
We sign him long term to a big deal, and he can stay with Sam, (the qb who he knows he can play well with)
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what I will hate the most.
I wish he was at least signed for a 2 year deal. If he does do good, the Rams should sign him back. Of course, its hard to say if we will be in bad shape at WR, after this season.
Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron
If he is having a good year, then we sign him long term
No reason to go to Oakland or Washington (who have no qb, and are way off from the playoffs) for a little more money after you know what it’s like to play with an average qb and then go to an excellent qb
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He'll want too much money and he's inconsistent.
I say we are fortunate if we get him on a good year, but don’t press our luck.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
He's inconsistent with an incosistent qb on an incosistent team in JAX, he might be great with us
Why is it you all don’t call Avery, DX, or Gibson inconsistent?
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Too be fair,
they were inconsistent with an inconsistent rookie QB on an inconsistent team as well (Avery in even worse situation).
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Sam's already a better qb than Garrard
And Flacco is better than Garrard, and Sam was able to make Clayton way better than Flacco could. SkyWalker is Julio Jones with route running, and we all wanted Julio. SkyWalker was stuck on a team he couldn’t put up numbers with an average qb
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you really should try and be optimistic
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 1, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sign him long term if he has a 1500yd, 8TD season.
Otherwise a 2 or 3-yr deal is good enough. I want to see a season from him that dispells all doubt about his performance before giving anything longer than a couple of yrs.
I would qualify 3 years as a long term deal
Cause he’d be 30 by the end of a 3 year deal
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
True. Thats one of those glass half full, glass half empty things.
I tend to think a 4yr or 5yr deal as long term, but I can see where others would include a 3yr contract in that category.
I'd call it long term based on his age he'd be by the end
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 5:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Two to Three years "if" he proves himself.
Remember next years draft will have some very talented WR’s in it.
I changed it,
lol man I have egg on my face now.
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Its all in good fun Carneros lol
Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron
I change my mind every day about this and the Diles pick up.
I’m convinced everything else was a good idea, but this goes back and forth and Diles looks worse and worse. On the one hand, he’s an injury risk who hasn’t really performed. On the other, he’s cheap and Bradford can rejuvenate a career (see Clayton). Still want Clayton back more than anyone else.
Cosell loves Diles, I'd say he knows more than a guy with a YouTube account
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
More of a worry about him being joked about as a "cost effective" player
And Texans fans referring to him as “thrust upon them.”
by HomerForTheRams on Aug 1, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
But you have to look at who he had to share the wealth with over there. He wasn’t put into a situation where they said well mike you are our go to guy. He had alot of people over there that Garrad thought was a safer target like lewis and MJD. Them two were his fav targets specialy MJD he had more cathes then any of them so when he went down it didn’t help none. This is great cause now in his mind its a fresh start and for him to bloom and become a number 1 with Sam performing how he did last season walker knows he may have a better chance of being somebodies favriot target and dat so happend to be us. He could’ve went any other place he came here. I think he’s going to be a #1 for us for years to come. Sam Bradford to Mike Sims-Walker!!!
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 4:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
MSW has a reason to play ball this year.
Dissed by Jacksonville. One year contract with the Rams should be motivation enough. If he has anything left in the tank we’ll see it this season. I still think that having Bradford slinging the ball to him instead of Gerrard will do miracles for his play. Glad to see the Rams going after big receivers instead those quick/small f*ckers!
Says the guy who think Garrard is able to be near elite
News Flash: Brady and Peyton and Aaron are elite. Garrard is a throw away who can be replaced by any starting qb in the league, and you won’t see a difference
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't count those as starting qb's
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They all have great lines.
Jags line isn’t that good, so throws get rushed.
Peyton had a 91.8 QB rating last year, Garrard with a worse line, and a consistently hurt #1(MSW) had a 90.8. He isn’t elite, but he’s an above average QB. Garrard had the team back in 07, and he had a 102.2 QB rating, in 07 Peyton had a 98.0 rating. Meaning in 07 Garrard outplayed his rival, and in 10 Garrard almost broke even with him. From 01-06 Brady never got over a 95.0 rating, and he’s elite.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Peyton: top 3 qb all time, Brady: maybe best ever, Garrard: 18-20 best right now
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
what do you consider Ben Rothlisberger?
because according to this ben and david are both above average QBs….that also includes Flacco and Schuab. ESPN’s new QB rating system.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Ben is so big he's hard to tackle.
That makes him effective, but not necessarily good.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Vick, Schaub, Big Ben, Manning, Romo, Flacco, Sanchez, Ryan, Bradford, Orton, Cutler, Cassel, McNabb, Rivers, and Freeman
These are the guy I would take over Garrard
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Based on winning and potential, not ESPN's rating system
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My count has him at twenty
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Depends on how you look at it i guess
You can look at him as one of the top 20 starting QB’ or one of the bottom 12
Either way, that's below average
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 5:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Brady: maybe best ever
No way. Not even close.
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by Wiedmann on Aug 1, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really..... 3 rings already and the single greatest season as a passer ever
And he’s done it his whole career with crap at reciever (outside Moss and Welker) as opposed to Rice, Harrison, or Wayne. I think he’s gonna be in the argument
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And I say outside Moss and Welker
Cause he won the rings without them
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
EXACTLY DAVID GIVENS TROY BROWN DIEON BRANCH BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL MVP AND AFTER
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Please stop the all caps
Makes you seem like jswirb, who knows nothing of football
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree I'd
say he’s definatly top 5, wat you think?
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
Just like our generation watched enough basketball to call Kobe a top 10 guy of all time
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
exactly
that shouldnt matter thats why we have NFL films and Tom Brady is one of the all time greats all ready
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Brady never had to run from Deacon Jones until his recievers
got up from being tackled and tried to free themslves from DBs that were all over them. Buy why should he since he can just intentionally ground the ball. Your right hes f*%&$*g great.
He's still got one of the best winning percentages of any qb ever
My top 5 as of right now: 1a) Montana 1b) Brady (will be the true 1 if he wins another) 3) Manning 4) Favre 5) Marino (single greatest passer ever, but never won the SB)
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Being part of a winning team doesn't equate to he himself being great.
by LARams1968 on Aug 1, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The fact that Unitas didn't make your top five...
…completely invalidates any opinion you may have.
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Who you want me to take out?
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
both Brady & Manning
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Probably Marino, too
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No, I'm not
You realize there was a lot of football played before 2000, right?
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Yeah, I know Marino was gonna be a problem
But I’ve seen the tape of him, and he is just head and shoulders above other passers in terms of talent. Manning is gonna have all the records by the time he’s done, and what Brady has done, with the weak recievers he’s had, is amazing, especially when you consider he might win another one or two
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Marino was supremely talented, but not much of a leader
Manning may have all the records by the time he’s done, but then again, he may not. Favre currently holds them, Manning does not. Injuries happen, it’s far from a sure thing.
What Brady’s done is use his coaches cheating to win tainted titles. He won’t win another one or two. How many playoff games has he won since Spygate? Three consecutive losses in the postseason & counting…
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And you realize
There were some after 2000, right?
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
Yes, but you realize that it's about 11% of NFL seasons played, right?
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Elway?
LOL
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Elway was a beast and went out at the top of his game.
All hope is lost when you let doubt creep in....
Elway was a poseur & went out on a team exceeding the salary cap.
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Just like joe montana or terry bradshaw never had to go against Warren Sapp or Ray lewis
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And Lewis might be the best MLB of all time
Go ahead, argue with me it’s Dick Butkus (who was amazing)
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Deacon Jones, Merlin Olsen
L C Greenwood, Mean Joe Green, Dick Butkas, Freddie “The Hammer” Williamson
Montana was a different era with legal intentional grounding,
legal holding (OL blocking rules), 5 yard rule for DBs.
Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, Revis, Derrick Brooks
Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Darren Sharper. I got plenty of amazing players to name myself
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, those guys aren't really comparable.
Lewis is the only one who comes close.
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He's no Joe Greene, Buck Buchanan, Alan Page, or Merlin Olsen
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Yes, they were much better
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Look at what the Steelers defense is like without Poloamlu
He has a ridiculous impact on offenses. Reed is one of the best ballhawks ever, Brooks was ridiculous. You gotta take into account how the game is different today, not worse, but different
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
exactlyyy i hate when people act like the old school players are so much better than the new school we got some amazing players with actual names not like NIGHT TRAIN LANE
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How many of them intercepted 14 passes in their rookie season?
Oh, and it was less of a passing game then, too, which makes it even more ridiculous.
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tell me one elite reciever night trane lane locked down his rookie year tell me the quaterbacks he played please
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Mardy would be so much bigger and faster than all those recievers
He’d be like Moss and Rice combined
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Otto Graham, for one.
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exactly Ronnie Brown or Jerome Snelling your services are needed
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No, Barry Sanders was awesome
Only Jim Brown was better than him.
(Otto Graham was a QB, btw)
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gotta look at it this way, players are soo much bigger faster than the old schoolers...
cmon now, we have wr’s, and qb’s that are the same size as some of the lb’s,defensive tackles back then!!
by Mark Jaramillo on Aug 1, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
What you don't realise is how the game has changed
Brady never has had to stand there, with defenders hanging on him, and wait until his WR can stand back up and fight for room with a DB that is pushing him around.
what????
yess he has just cause last year they changed the rules brady has takin a beating before and they barely wore pads back then there helmets were horrible
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Joke right?
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Yup
I don’t really get the discussion….it seems like the younger folk here appreciate what we’ve got today, and those more advanced in years think its awesome to reflect on leather-helmted, looks like its going in slow-mo football
old school had no rules
watching deacon jones punch Offensive tackles in the face ill
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What I'd like to see is
Ray Lewis spear Johnny U…
…on a 2011, high definition Television that doesn’t sit on the floor and have antenna on it
Watch what happens when I suggest that by the times Kobe is done he will be better than Jordan
They freeeeeak!
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
completely agreeee with you Black Mamba
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See, that's the thing, we're all partial to our guys
We didn’t see Jordan hit game winners and real time, just in old footage we know the outcome of. But we’ve watched each of the Black Mamba’s shots with excitement and were impressed by his cold blooded, lights out shooting
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw Jordan push off in real time.
It pissed me off.
Kobe & Jordan both pale in comparison to Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlin, etc.
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29, if you must know
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Really????
Kobee is the definition of Clutch!!
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Thats Right Hes better than Him idc if he is the NBA logo
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Yeah, it isn't like I can go back and watch Montana play
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Look, I'm not saying your too young to know good when
you see it. I’m just saying: “all time” Maybe, maybe not. He wouldn’t be my first choice.
By the way, throws being rushed makes it kinda hard for a reciever to catch the ball from a qb whose accuracy is average at best to begin with
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
my bad i didnt realize it was still on and i think i read a couple of his comments hes the smart one who wanted to sign old recievers whos primes where in the years of the early 2000’s correct??
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Yep, and he's like, "I know football, I've watched for years!"
Then asks who Ronnie Brown and Joseph Addai are
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And im from south FL i kno alot about ronnie brown
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Don't think the Rams will be a traditional 2WR team
Looks like we are loading up on guys that are better suited to play more of a body
position quick throw spread type of game. I’m not sure MSW not being a true #1 type is that big of a deal. Sure it would be awesome if he turned out to have that kind of talent but I don’t necessarily think anyone is banking on that.
The smart thing from a Ram’s perspective is the low cost risk. If he tanks we can cut him and if he’s good he’ll make the team better this year. I suspect he’s a stop gap solution and unless he is productive beyond anyone’s expectations.
Last year,
Sam Bradford looks like a dinker and a dunker. He did a lot fof check downs and dumps off passes, MSW will provide you with a player who can make throws down the field.
"thanks for hating"
Yeah, it will also help that we got rid of Shurmur
He ripped up any play that went for 8 or more yards
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He was doing it to protect Sam and keep him upright.
Rams did a good job last year of protecting Sam with a Dink and Dunk style. It allowed him to get used to the speed of the game and survive. That being said, I’m glad it’s time to turn Sam lose in a more innovative JMcD system, though still filled with flares and quick slant patterns. It should be a slice.
Sims
Is a number #1 just how everybody think mark is a number 1 but he was just like mike so lets say he’s not a one either.
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 4:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
MSW isn't a #1
He can play #1, but I guarantee he won’t break 850 yards. I think the best move for the Rams, is next year draft Justin Blackmon, so you have your #1, and you resign MSW to be the #2.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The main issues with MSW is can he put the team on his back and lead them to a victory?
thats critical for a QB1, RB1, or WR1. Can he take double coverage and still come up with the catch? Can he hold onto the ball when he does? Also, can he remain consistent throughout the season. He has WR1 potential, but I wish I had a dollar for every bust receiver that had the same potential.
no he cant.
Mike Thomas the 4th round pick #2, led us places, but MSW couldn’t put the team on his back.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw that last season. MSW seemed to disappear in games.
But I didn’t know if it was Gerrard inability to get him the ball or MSW’s inability to get open. But on the same token when he did show up he’d get 150yds and 2 TDs. The juries still out on him, but the good news is he didn’t cost the Rams much to bring in to camp.
Also another key thing to note...
getting cut by a team sometimes does wonders for a player. Getting complacent and thinking your jobs locked up for life, some players start to slack. Getting cut and having to compete for a job might wake MSW up and get him back to where he should be. He has the talent. Just needs to get his head on straight.
didnt get cut
he was FA that didnt get resigned.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Inability to get open,
and occasionaly Garrard would get to him, and he’d drop it. We ended up having ike Thomas being double covered.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
MSW was the best wideout overall on the jags hands down but i dow Like Mike Thomas tho
i would have to see proof mike sims walker was the wideout on the jags hands down
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he did sometimes
but a good #1, still makes plays while being double teamed.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpbD106-LE
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A #1 is someone who will reliably catch the ball oe someone who can make big plays
MSW is young, so there is still potenital, but up until now he hasn’t been either of those things.
Shoulda signed Breaston.
nawww on breaston
id rather have MSW he is a beast hes alot stronger than breaston MSW is gonna get the job done
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Mike
Gone break 850 if sam throwing at him
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 4:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
he'll definetley
be out atleast 2 games.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Sims
Gone get in trust me cause we just basiclly told him we need him.
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 5:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sims gone get it in this season.
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 5:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 5:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
TST on twitter
Sirius says rams signed LB Brady Poppinga…careful, Sirius reports wrong on Jason Snelling over the weekend (said he was signed)
Don't like the signing, he is not a very effecient reciever (only catching slightly more than 50 % of the balls targeted to him)
and he isn’t really a deep threat either. So basically you have a receiver who is only being targeted in high completion scenarios, but is still not catching the ball on a consistent basis. I don’t think you can blame it all on David Gerrard.
I still voted wait and see though, because the Rams were shit in the redzone last season so if he does nothing else but get his 7 TDs this year, I will still be in favor of the deal.
i don't like the rams-jags comparison
cause there are a lot of things that are gonna be different in STL.
-a whole different play-calling. mjd was like the complete jags offense, carrying and receiving. that will definetly change with McD as our OC
-better o-line. that will give him time to get out of coverage and sam throwing lasers
-finally i think the qb could make a bit of a difference. sam is just pinpoint-accurate. short, medium, deep, he’ll put them in a perfect spot
lets just wait and see. we’ll have nothing to lose, lets hope he will help us win the nfc w finally
totally agree
he really is in a overall better situation
SWAGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
Yep, Jax is a dumpster fire waiting to happen the second MJD isn't playing all world
St Louis isn’t
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
EXACTLY
THAT TEAM DOSENT REALLY EXIST WITH MJD AND MARCEDES LEWISS
SWAGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
*without
And yeah, you don’t trade up in one of the weakest qb drafts ever, unless you really wanna replace your starter
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to see what Gerrards completion percentage was on plays not involving MJD
I always thought the guy was a serviceable QB though.
T-Jack can be serviceable if you give him Marcedes Lewis, MJD, and low expectations
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 6:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIq5szAnJc&feature=related
Thisss was against DRC hands down he was the best corner in the nfc west and killed him on a 10 yard comeback route……..he is gonn be our #1
SWAGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
heyyy
i’m new to this site i alwayss followed this site for all my rams newsss and updates tho and i love it butt why doesss it seem that everyone iss not excited bout this signing clearly MSW is one of our best if not the best we got at wideout this guy is a beast straight up he more than likely is gonna be our number one ima say it first im stoked bout this signing and oh yea harvey dahl is our best signing tho by far
whoa, slow down there buddy
…and use some punctuation!
Sam
Did pretty good for a rookie last year but im hopen he will stay consistant like he was last year. Also make great plays for us im hopen he becomes a peyton manning type to where everytime a team has to go up against us they like ooo s*** lmao
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 6:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
ignore the plays with mjd this is what we could be gettin outta MSW if he stays healthy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IzdAc44EaU
SWAGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
yes that is
but thats a #2, yur looking at. He’s making plays, but that doesn’t make him a #1, if he ends up becoming the Rams’ permanent #2 solution, with a big receiver at #1, you guys will have a great offense, MSW can’t take the pressure of being a #1, he’s cocky, and he’s easily locked down out of games. 12/14 games he played in resulted in less then 50 yards a game, 3 of them being 0 yards in a game.
"thanks for hating"
by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
youre not realizing what divison he has came to the nfc west has no shut down corner no more he is gonna light it up over here
he scored in 8 of those games tho and thts half a season ill take touchdowns all day thts something we couldnt do he is gonna be our #1 by the time the season starts
SWAGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
O yea
He gone light it up for us and become our number 1 target for us over at jax he wasn’t treated like a 1 and plus they was usen lewis like he was a 1 and use MJD like he was a 2. Over here he will be treated like a number 1.
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 7:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Off Topic
I REALLY hope we sign a backup RB sometime soon. Dont want them to miss any time in camp. Getting close now, 2 days until they can report. Hopefully we sign someone in the next 24 hours.
love the MSW signing
gives us a potential #2 or slot WR, should be a good target for sam. would be nice to see the rams get another receiver, but MSW is a start
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
Mike
Mike wasnt getn treated like a 1 over there at jax lewis was the 1 and MJD was 2 then MSW 3. Over here he gone b treated like 1 getn it in watch.
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 7:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
exactly he is gonna light it up there is no corners in this divison no more
SWAGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
Actually the 1 was MJD, the 2 was MJD, the 3 was Lewis, and the 4 was MSW, del rio doesn't believe in using recievers
by King Sam Rules! on Aug 1, 2011 7:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Either way he wasn’t getn treated like a 1. Now since he with us he will.
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 7:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Statistically
M80 was #1
Marcedes was #2
and Sims-Walker was #3
MSW wasn’t getting open, Marcedes was a big target, who consistently got open, M80 is a multi-threat whether its receiving running, returning.
"thanks for hating"
by rhettchrystal on Aug 1, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that Mr. USC ...
is going to throw 150 players against the wall & hope something sticks.
STEVEN JACKSON is the #1 Ram
Go RAMs !!!
Tight end zac mill
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 8:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Why
Is people sayn this and that off of stats look at them highlights and that should tell who sky-walk is a beast man he is a 1 and with sam throwing at him its gone be a brady to moss or warner to holt or bruce.
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 1, 2011 9:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Highlights can make anyone look good.
Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron
by Tevin Broner on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
J-RAD2 why don't you go back to your ever lovin CowGirls posting !!!!!
STEVEN JACKSON is the #1 Ram
Go RAMs !!!
Agree with daniell, Don't like the Jags comparison to Rams.
Gerrard will never be Sam Bradford, and Del Rio will never be Spags! As for MJD and Lewis being 1 and 2, that made since to Del Rio because MJD and Lewis go way back.
However, I saw every game Lewis “got to play” in College and never liked him. He dropped enough important passes to piss my Father off. Saw every game MJD played in College, solid guy. JMcD’s system is better than Jacksonvilles. Sam throws lasers you have to catch and MSW is a big move the chains target. It’s simple, catch Sam’s passes or he’ll check-down to another receiver. We may not need a no.1 receiver. McDaniels will confuse defenses. Bradford will force the best to rise to their starting positions and MSW’s size should make a difference. He doesn’t need to be able to break deep. Just catch it.!!
Agree look closer
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by J-RAD2 on Aug 2, 2011 1:09 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Everybody
See that over there at the jags sky wasnt getting the looks he needed when he did he did big things for them. Yea he may be a lil injure prone but you never know he may do a whole season. With sam having all these targets around and with him giving sky the rock like a true 1 wr o yea we will be feared trust me.
(Love by many hated by most) St. Louis Rams
by J-RAD2 on Aug 2, 2011 1:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Absolutely
MSW’s life will actually be easier. That’s the positive in all of this. And it will be fun to watch..

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