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Kurt Warner Burns the Rams *UPDATE*

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Today Tuesday, 5th of April of 2011, NFL Network with lead overview of State of the Rams, former Rams Qb Kurt Warner understates the next leading champion of the NFC West, the St Louis Rams. First and for most go check out the State of the Rams at NFL.com/videos. Hearing Kurt Warner speak about the Rams was absurd. He went out on a limb by saying that the Rams have no playmakers outside of Bradford. Clearly he hasn't seen the Rams great strides in 2010. He also stated that if the Cardinals or 49ers get an upgrade at quarterback they will be ahead of the Rams. Big understatement ever. The Rams defense vastly improved and did its most part in competitive play. In my opinion, the chicken shit offense ran by either Pat shurmor or Spagnoulo and a weak corp of wide receivers gave  ball games away. Let me just say this in a different way, the Rams defense gaved the offense plenty of opportunities to score but the offense disappointed. With a new coordinator that brings aggression, healthy corp of wide outs. Its not clear as to why Kurt Warner down plays the Rams so badly. It angers me to see and hear him say that the Rams have no playmakers Defensively and offensively, I cannot even fathom. After his lack of knowledge of the improving Rams, Steve Wyche points out the improvement the Rams and downplays Kurt Warner. Thank goodness someone knows.

UPDATE: I stated that Kurt Warner's view that the Rams have no playmakers outside of Bradford was absurd. In my mind its still true. The Rams indeed holds playmakers in their roster. Chris Long is in fact a playmaker,I don't now why he gets smashed in the comment below, if it wasn't for his last minute save,( i.e causing the fumble sack vs the 49ers to kill their drive or what about in Denver where he struck Kyle Orton to force a turnover on downs,not to mention his 8.5 sacks, by the way the defense was playing horrible in that game, Denver should have won by the way they were scoring. Clearly he's a playmaker. James Hall, Fred Robbins, James Laurinitis, are indeed playmakers. This year more talent will uprise and thus more playmakers. On offense I consider Donny Avery, Marc Clayton, Amendola, Steven Jackson, Playmakers. True some didn't play because of injuries, but nevertheless playmakers. That's why I'm so optimistic about the Rams in 2011 despite having a tough schedule. A healthy corps of receivers and McDaniel upbringing this year. I watched all Rams games of 2010, and you can not tell me you didn't see some drives where the Rams were moving downfield. Just imagine with a healthy corp of wideouts. Not to mention that Sam Bradford will be given the chance to read coverages, change plays, make decisions based on his view and not the constricted view of a limited offensive scheme. His role will be complete.

And also by saying that the Rams Pass defense got the sacks because of a 2nd ranked weak team schedule is absurd as well.The Rams got 7 sacks against a very good team in the Chargers. And it didn't stop their.

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Well i think he means weapons wise

There really isn’t that much of weapons around Sam except Jackson and Amendola and maybe Clayton. I think he means the Cardinals have Fitzgarald and the 49ers have Crabtree the truth is we need weapons in order to make that next step and be a force in the league.

by RG31 on Apr 5, 2011 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

On the other hand....

….he made it sound like Arizona and SF would be able to just go and pick up an elite QB kinda like how I could go and pick an apple off a tree. That was a huge assumption.

But Warner has turned into somewhat of a hater…too bad from a guy that should call himself a Ram.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Apr 6, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly he probably was right

Sam and SJax…thats pretty much all we have to change games…..Davis,Crabtree, Gore, Breaston, Wells, Fitzgerald, and we have SJax and Sam……If either 9ers or Cards pickd up a QB i say yea we’d be in trouble….Palmer,Bulger, Kolb, McNabb if these guys went to those teams we would be in deep $%*!…

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 6, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean honestly who do we have

A good QB
Good RB
A questionable WR corps who can’t stay healthy to save their lives
If them other teams get a good QB were gonna have some trouble because of a lack of weapons. I think Kurt said it to be truthful. We have no true number one and our number twos goes down every other week. OUR MOST RELIABLE WR IS OUR SLOT. That doesn’t look good to me at all.

by RG31 on Apr 7, 2011 3:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

No need to overreact if someone points out the weaknesses in our team, and most of what he said in the area of lacking playmakers was very well-founded. I was laughed in the middle of last season when I said the 49ers have more playmakers than us. Sure, their record was bad, but that was due to bad coaching and a huge lack of a real QB.

I agree with Warner that if the Niners or the Cards get a decent QB, they’ll be real contenders.

I bet Sarah Palin can learn a playbook faster than Mardy Gilyard.

by Rams07 on Apr 7, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think of Kolb goes to either team

Then we’ll beat them 2ice a yr because seriously Kolb sucks!!!!

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 7, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woah slow down there young fellow.

For once I agree with everything they said. I said it before and I will say it again the 49ers have the most talent in the division. The Cardinals have the 2nd most talent, then the Rams,and Seahawks.

We don’t have any playmakers, if Bradford had a bad game we lost more then likely. The whole season we only had one real game changer and that was the almost touchdown run by our DT week 1.

I have no problems with what Kurt said.

Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron

by Tevin Broner on Apr 6, 2011 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Seein as how them 2 were the ones to gives us a superbowl

They can hate on us as long as we give them somethin to hate on…..but bite your tongue old timers Sam and Steven are on their way to helping us ease the loss of your presence.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 6, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

What he said is true

I love my Rams but I can’t argue with Kurt’s point. Besides Bradford who on the Rams is going to put fear into the opponent. We have no break-away play makers on offense. Our defense, though solid, has very average game changing ability – especially with Atogwe gone.

Kurt is talking about game changing type of players i.e D Jackson, Fitzgerald, Jamal Charles or Gates type of players.

by 2cents on Apr 6, 2011 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

You don't think you're missing someone...

I mean, that Steven Jackson guys a pretty good guy. He was in the top 10 in rushing last year, the year prior 2nd, and is still one of the best receiving threats out of the backfield in the NFL. He can take over a game and win BY HIMSELF. He IS our greatest weapon on offense, not Bradford. Hell, we even got up and coming guys on this team. Danny Amendola, and I’m really getting high on Brandon Gibson. The dude has some untapped potential, and I think Josh McDaniels will help bring some of that potential out.

by ramswo85 on Apr 6, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But Jackson can only win if you “GIVE HIM THE D#$! BALL!”

THIS year there'll be football. I hope....

by thisguy on Apr 6, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who did NE have as playmakers when they beat Kurt in 2001?

Sold players can get it done just like NE has done most the decade, playmakers are a value but ask Dallas, Redskins, Vikings, Jets how a team of playmakers look at the end of the day without someone to drive them. To make my point clearer, WE HAVE THE DRIVER AT THE WHEEL and thats all we need besides the injury bug to find another team. ARZ lost their driver, and the playmakers looked like jokers. With Sam at the wheel we will be contenders regardless of what Kurt says.

by STLfan1 on Apr 6, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rams don't have alot of starting caliber guys either.

Your argument doesn’t have much merit though. Who do we have besides Bradford that is a game changer? It’s not all about the offense, what about the defense?

Bradford is good, but how many 2nd year QB’s go to the playoffs, with a questionable offense, and a average defense.

Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron

by Tevin Broner on Apr 6, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

ummm......

Tom Brady, Ty Law, Adam Vinateri, Willie Mcginest, Teddy Bruschi to name a few.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 7, 2011 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Vrabel, Lawyer Milloy and a coach named Bill Belicheat who took an inferior team and out coached the jockey shorts off Mike Martz.

Marshall Faulk was averaging about 10 yards a pop and the Pats couldn’t stop him. But Martz kept going to the air instead of utilizing Faulk.

by RamChop on Apr 7, 2011 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Brady, Bledsoe, Bruschi, Bryan Cox, McGinest, Seymore, Vinatieri both corners and many more. Other than at RB & QB (Which is debatable) our players couldn’t carry their jockstraps. They had a solid group of guys at almost every position and were extremely well coached.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Apr 8, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes right that we do lack playmakers,

and steven jackson stats say he is on the decline. he could respond with a monster year this year and it woudnt surprise me, but he has taken a beating in his career.

i do wonder why marshall and kurt warner seem to always be hating on the rams. maybe they dont want to seem biased.

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by nodisrespect on Apr 6, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Kurt is right. You are wrong.

I can’t take much more of the pie-in-the-sky optimism for a team that managed to eke out 7 wins against the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL last year. Guys, we didn’t beat a single good team and in week 17 the worthless Seahawks made us look like UFLers. Now let’s review the Rams of 2011. Scratch Atog, he’s gone. Hall and Robbins are so old they creak and Gibson (DT) is near worthless. Chris Long registered 8.5 sacks and averaged 1-2 tackled per game. We have NO OLB’s. One doesn’t have to go much further with the defense to figure that teams like New Orleans, Green Bay, the NFC East, plus Pittsburgh and Ravens are going to feast on us. Now look at the offense. Sam still doesn’t have a #1 receiver. We’ve probably got a legit #2 in Clayton (if he’e recovered) and Amendola’s ok. The rest of our receivers are #3’s. SJax is a year older and still doesn’t have a credible b/u. We need TWO new OG’s. And we have a $33M RT playing average ball against bad teams. Now add in a coach that often makes irrational and idiotic decisions, i.e. how bout that inspired coaching job against Pete Carroll in week 17 for the NFC West Championship? Nope. I’m scared silly of 2011. Unless we can make some great draft choices/trades and score some high profile FA’s, we’re looking at 5-11 or 6-10.

by RamChop on Apr 6, 2011 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Chops

Many call you a pessimist, but I see you as a realist. I think you’re absolutely right. I was getting so tired of the ‘moral victories’ last season. I am also very anxious and nervous for next season. I don’t know how well we will do if the Niners and or the Cards get an upgrade at QB.

I bet Sarah Palin can learn a playbook faster than Mardy Gilyard.

by Rams07 on Apr 7, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we could get away with the defense i think they have another year in them

But our Offense is lousy and i think if we don’t upgrade it this year than there will be more heart break considering our schedule next season we’re lucky to get 5 wins.

by RG31 on Apr 7, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just like it was a total fantasy at this time last year

that the Rams could win over 6 games.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 7, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

But we don’t have a weak schedule like last year either

by RG31 on Apr 7, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

True,

but every team in the division outside of two games has the same schedule. So if you expect the Rams to lose more games, I would think you would expect the Cardinals, Seahawks, and 49er’s to lose more games as well unless you think their current players will get better and the Rams won’t?

But I prefer to wait until after the draft, before talking about how good or bad the team will be. Since the team won’t exactly have the same roster as last year.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 7, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

That’s what i’m gonna do

by RG31 on Apr 7, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seattle get's Chicago and Atlanta

San Francisco-Tampa Bay and Detroit
Not afraid of Arizona being better than the Rams, so I threw them out(but if you need to know they play Carolina and Minnesota)

Chicago, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, and Detroit are not pushovers. I can easily see the 49er’s and Seahawks losing both of their “different” games just like I can see the Rams easily losing to New Orleans and Green Bay.

Of course I wouldn’t want to play the last two champions of the Super Bowl, but the Seahawks and 49er’s are not good teams either. So those two “different” games are almost a wash.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 8, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

By 3

definitely a pushover and the Seahawks will surely beat them again.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 8, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Warner said...

If these teams get a QB, we are fu**ed. The Cards haven’t lost a lot since the Super Bowl run. They are stacked at WR, have an adequate RB and a decent O-Line and Defense. They are missing a QB and IMO, if they get Mallett or possibly even Gabbert (if he falls) they will crush us. Don’t really need to talk about the SeaChickens because they stomped us out with the current crew and arguably the most talented team in the NFC West (49ers) are also one step away (QB) from completing their team. Just match up their rosters with ours! Unless you are lying to yourself it’s not really that hard to see that we are in trouble.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Apr 8, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do realize that the Rams can get better players too right?

Not just the other teams in the division.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 8, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do some of you act like the other teams WILL get better

and the Rams WILL not?

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 9, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Rams just finished two drafts where they picked 2nd and 1st overall, respectively.

Out of those 14 picks we got sensational players in Sam, JL and Saffold. Jason Smith looks to be an average NFL RT. That’s four solid players in two top of the order drafts. 3-4 out of 14 don’t speak too highly for our scouting/drafting ability. We pick 16th this year. Think they’ll do any better from this draft position …?

by RamChop on Apr 9, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a possibility

If they get Jones, Austin, and Bruce Carter. For my money that’s 3 guys that can be good to very good players. And all are improvements over the current guys at their respective positions. Time will tell.

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by Swag11 on Apr 9, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

These teams are a QB away not half of a roster away.

By better players, did you mean re-signing Lauren Robinson?! We were down to three healthy piss poor receivers at one point last year and our management failed to pull the trigger on one of the best receivers in history (with no contract or obligation) and that was with the playoff’s hanging in the balance. So no, I don’t have a lot of faith that they will be a big player in the free agant market and I don’t think that adding one or two starters via the draft will put us in the level with the rest of the west. We didn’t just miss on Moss either, we have missed on a ton of players.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Apr 10, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Randy Moss helped the Titans

finish 1-7.

Who are these other players that the Rams supposedly missed on? You can’t just throw money at guys(see Washington).

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by Swag11 on Apr 10, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean the Randy Moss who...

had 1,264 yards with 13 td’s in 09’, will be a first ballot HOF’er and the guy that Brady and Favre called the smartest WR in the game? Or the guy who was with 3 teams in 2010, two of which were in complete shambles. Yeah I would use that as a benchmark too. You were probably one of the guys that said Owens was washed up too because his numbers were bad in Buffalo. Other notable names we missed on are Marshall, Crayton, Holmes (for a 5th!) and Boldin. Those are just the marquis guys, there were many more that would have put Lauren and Gibson on the bench were they belong. And bringing Washington up every time someone wants a player is ridiculous. The Pats have thrown money at plenty of top free agents (Seau, Moss, Harrison, C. Dillon) they are just smart about the players they take in. So, if you only have 3 wideouts healthy and Moss pops free with no obligation, you pick him up and make the playoffs.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Apr 16, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does Moss's production in 09 have to do

with his lack of production in 2010? His numbers were horrible with all 3 teams and that includes New England. There’s no guarantee that Moss being here would have put the Rams in the playoffs.

Brandon Marshall was traded for two second round picks. Which means we wouldn’t have Saffold+whoever they draft this year and if the Rams would have traded for him it would have cost money.

Instead we could use that money to get some big name free agent, maybe Vincent Jackson. Time will tell. If that happens the Rams will have

big name free agent+Saffold+2nd round pick this year. That sounds much better than just Marshall.

Boldin was only traded for a 3rd and 4th, but that was to a team not in the same division. Would that price have been raised if the Rams wanted in? Maybe, maybe not. I definitely would have traded 2 mid round-ish picks for Boldin.

Almost everyone was blindsided by the Holmes trade, so I wouldn’t say we “missed on him” because to miss on someone don’t you have to know he was available?

The Pats have thrown money at plenty of top free agents

You named four guys and one of them(Seau) did not get a big deal.

they are just smart about the players they take in

Exactly you don’t just throw money at big name free agents just to fill a need, good thing we don’t got that Haynesworth guy. The Patriots can take guys with a questionable “motor” because they have the organization where guys like Moss and Dillon will usually play up to their talent. Devaney it seems is trying to do the same and he did go after Vincent Jackson but didn’t want to give up a first(?) round pick for him.

The reason some people bring up Washington is that some of you act like the draft is of no use except to trade for players and give out big contracts to those players.

You don’t want to believe go right ahead, I’ll keep on believing as long as the Rams continue to get better.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 17, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Moss is a HOF' caliber receiver that’s what the 09' season illustrated!

The Chargers were reportedly looking for a second round pick for Vincent Jackson. My guess is we offered our third because it was the top pick in the 3rd round. I guess this was the case because SD told sources that they wanted a second rounder and then we went to the media and said they were asking for too much. There was also a story about Kroenke not wanting him because of the DWI’s.
  As far as the Holmes trade went, we owned the top pick in every round and I’m sure offers were rolling in. We may never know if Holmes was offered but before the draft I knew that he and Big Ben were there for the taking if they got the right offer. I have a buddy that lives in Pittsburg and it was well known that the Steelers were very displeased with Ben and Santonio and were shopping them around before the draft.
  As far as Marshall goes, yeah the price may have been too steep; I would have to partially agree. However draft picks are not as valuable as a PROVEN top 5, young receiver. We could have struck out on last years second rounder just as easily as getting someone useful (Successful draft picks in round 2 are under 50%). Marshall put up good numbers (86 catches, 1,014 3td’s) with crap at QB and a faltering running game. A receiver of his caliber would have changed entire defensive game plans.
  I’m sorry but my confidence in our front office is not all that high. We have sat on our hands while players that certainly would have helped were picked up by other teams at reasonable prices. Watching Lauren and Gibson get blanketed all game while Amendola runs his 3 yard route and then gets killed is not acceptable nor is a 27th ranked passing game or a defense that is on the field for 50 minutes. Devaney gave Robinson an offer! Haha! The worst #1 in the NFL hands down and he gave him an offer. Breeding confidence by the day!

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Apr 17, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just because Moss was good in 09 does not mean

he was good in 2010. Favre was good in 09 and then fell apart.

If we had Marshall instead of Saffold, then Bradford wouldn’t have time to throw and Jackson would have less holes to run through.

Robinson got an offer, well someone has to fill the roster spots. You can’t just have 22 starters plus 1 kicker and 1 punter. And you can’t have pro bowlers at every position, because there’s this thing called the salary cap.

Look at the roster in 08 and compared it to now, I think it looks better. But if the Rams continue with the “never give out big contracts to free agents” method, I will start to lose some confidence. I think they were trying to build a foundation of “good guys” who don’t get in trouble with the law and will bend the rules sometimes in the future like the Patriots to get a talented guy who has some red flags. We will find out in the future if/when free agency starts.

Don't forget to turn your swag on today.

by Swag11 on Apr 17, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said he was good last year.

  What I did say was that his career shows that he was vastly superior to any of the guys on our squad during the 2010 season and was available when we needed him most.
 Robinson has proven that he is a joke with two teams and has proven that even when healthy, he is horrible. He has no business being on our roster or anyone else’s. There is no excuse for giving him an offer!
  I agree with you that our front office needs to be much more aggressive. When and if we have a free agent period, our front office needs to fill multiple spots with quality players. Coaches and front offices don’t get 4-5 years to build a team anymore.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Apr 19, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Chop is a pessimist.

Chop does overreact at times, like when he wanted to chop down half of the roster, which included Jerome Murphy. He’s right though, I don’t agree about his feelings on Chris Long, and the other WR’s though.

Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron

by Tevin Broner on Apr 7, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Watchin the Offense made me cry

D was great…..played good but looked great especially in the situations the O put them in. Not saying our D is perfect and obivously holes are noticeable but all in all they played better than i expected and O fell hopelessly below my expectations it hurt to watch them and their 3 and outs. I just hope we score score score on offense or defense we just got to score.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 7, 2011 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

"D" was great???? Where were they when Tampa and SF kept converting critical 3rd and 4th downs to beat us last year???

Anybody remember the 3rd down and 32 that became a 4th and 18 that became the winning TD? Our “D” was medicore against bad teams. We have no OLB’s, Atog is gone, one of our DT’s named Gibson is invisible, and Robbins/Hall played well but are ready for the old folks home. And how ’bout that great CB play? Every time we played a decent team, i.e. Atlanta, New Orleans, KC, they feasted on our defense. Yeesh!

by RamChop on Apr 8, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you played football?

I did and i was apart of some really good defensive teams with lousey offenses and when ever we got a stop the offense would fumble or throw a pick and back out we go.Tired and beaten of course there goin to get the upper hand on you eventually and those games were decent for a while with or defense holding up but we game the other team too many opportunities and look at the outcome…..We “Shoulda” ran all over Tampa but we didnt. We “Shoulda” smashed SF but we didnt. NO and ATL were built to kill defenses but look at the F ups by the O to get them back in it……and how bad was our offense against DET? yea they scored 40+ on us but wat did we manage to do on offense to counter that and help our D stay in the game? Nothing. Crappy OLB old DL and DB’s that couldnt catch an STD in a stripclub and we stilll managed to win games get pressure and rank in the better half of the league.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 8, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our defense was good idk about great.

I think Spags scheme did good for our defense. We had a good defense for what we had on that side of the ball, but we need talent their bad.

Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron

by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was your expectations of our D? was it what they put out?

By comparission it was great!

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 9, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Against a back up QB, who ended up throwing for high numbers

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by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our Defense was great considering how long they were on the field

if we can keep the Offense on the field then they will be great.

by RG31 on Apr 8, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great?

Y’all overrating our defense.

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by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well good

I said great for all the times they were out there but good is more like it

by RG31 on Apr 8, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah because teams like

Steelers have great D. Ours need more talent but we are on the upswing

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by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Youve gotta admit

Our D did pretty good this year

by RG31 on Apr 8, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it did good.

Let us down in key moments though. Thats why I think with younger, better talent it can’t do nothing but get much better

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by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were beat down all game

of course ur gonna give up a few here and there when ur playing 55 on 60 mins.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 9, 2011 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

well if we go defense heavy in the draft we will be better

defense is almost all the way complete. we fill those holes and our offense will get more chances to move the ball and score. our defense still should keep teams to 20 or less this season. i am sold this season on offense besides the og spots which need to be fixed free agency if that ever happens and a mid round pick. our offense is real young and will take another year so if they dont improve we go heavy offense in draft and FA. the defense has lots of holes and all soon to be holes with age that can be fixed now in the draft. i am not worried about the cards they will suck still . plus fitz wants to be traded. the niners still have a rookie coach andno QB. the seachickens on the other hand have father time at QB no running game no Oline no Dline but they play hard and have expierence. overall if the offense stay the same and the defense can get a OLB , DT/DE and some safeties that are solid or better we will take the division. avery and clayton on the ends and amendola in the middle should be open most of the time with all eyes on jackson. if they stay healthy that sounds like a good offense. tell me you were not excited in the preseason watching avery catch from sam, the first part with clayton and amendola all season long and Sjax still getting 1000. and the x factor in hawii mike. he will be healthy too. so lets see what happens with the offense before we worry there. defense was healthy for the most part so lets improve there knowing what we already are dealing with.

by RAISEtheDEAD on Apr 7, 2011 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree to an extent

We probably will go heavy D in the draft if WR is gone at 14 and we wont grab one later so OG and RB are probably the only positions of offense we’d draft with DT/DE/OLB/DB taken to fill the defense holes and there youn have it folks the Rams 2011 NFL draft DT/OLB/RB/OG/DB/DE taken in any order with value and we’ll probably double dip at a position or two.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 7, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

TO EVERYONE

Kurt said we lack playmakers. That I agree don’t get me wrong, but he didn’t show no acknowledgment that the Rams have vastly improved. Like someone said, teams with playmakers. i.e Vikings, Cardinals,Titains.etc proved worthless with now quarterback. The Rams have a quarterback, we just need a tight end and a #1 receiver.

by RodrixTheGreat on Apr 7, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

im confused

how did our coaches react??

Sam Bradford + Julio Jones = Championships all day...
Melo + Amar'e = NBA Championships all day...

by MyACLisBrittle on Apr 7, 2011 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

But, the Rams didn't vastly improve.

The only reason we won 7 games, is because of Sam Bradford, and that’s me being honest. Without Sam we probably win at the most 4 games.

Our defense is extremely overrated in my opinion, no OLB’s, Hall and Robbins should be declining this season. So thats probably three positions on the Dline that would need help. We will most likely start Dahl and Butler at safety. Our defense played better, but they didn’t stop good offenses so they can’t be that good.

On offense we have lots of WR’s with potential, but that doesn’t always mean they will work out in the pros. Sam is good, but he will have to play great to win 10 games with our schedule. TE doesn’t concern me since, MC D doesn’t use him in that offense much. The Rams need a new guard, and Steven Jackson is one injury away from our offense being half as good as we think it will be.

Combine that with the Rams having the third best talent in the NFC West, and it doesn’t look good. I agree that QB play helps, but our team is 2 years removed from the roster rehaul they did. You need a complete team to compete, just look at the playoff teams they were all solid. Most games came down to QB play, and playmakers

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by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 12:06 AM CDT reply actions  

@T.Ram

I can’t argue you with that, all true, but this is a vague year, who knows anything could happen with a few key additions in the draft, hopefully Juillo Jones will be available, if not no biggie, we get a DL or DT, Maybe in the second round we get Titus Young, And if there is free agency after the draft maybe will get some veteran additions as well, but like I said its a vague year, and too early by saying if the Rams are in trouble or a competitor.

by RodrixTheGreat on Apr 8, 2011 12:49 AM CDT reply actions  

True Rodrix, it really depends on the new CBA rules.

If its the 6 year to be a free agent model, the Rams will be in trouble. The thing about the draft is you can’t always rely on rookies. We got lucky the last couple of years and most have hit. I think we will be lucky to get two starters this year in the draft, and hopefully 4 contributers.

This year is set up for teams like the Cards or Niners. They get to draft their guys, won’t be effected if they want a QB in free agency or draft. Plus they can trade for Carson Plamer or Kevin Kolb using 2012 draft picks. It just seems kind of bad.

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by Tevin Broner on Apr 8, 2011 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with Kurt... but i dont get why people say the schedule is "tremendously more difficult"

It does look a lot harder but its still the 26th hardest or the 6th easiest schedule… these things are all relative. WE need to worry about the division ok… they have to play somewhat similar schedules as we do. I still think the 49ers and cardinals wont get their QBs this year and seattle is only a year older. I have no doubt in my mind we could go 6-0 in the division next year. If we win just 2 games outside it 8-8 should get us in

by zaviex on Apr 8, 2011 5:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's why the ranking is mis-leading and the schedule IS tremendously difficult:

When you play in a division where 7-9 wins the Championship, just factoring in your divisional opponents for 6 games makes the numbers look easy. But, in fact, we cannot count on sweeping these guys. We were only 3-3 against them last year. Figure 4-2 at best this year. We ain’t gonna beat the Hawks in their nest. The next problem is Dallas. They had a terrible season last year thanks to having Wade Phillips as coach and Tony Romo out with a broken collar bone (and Alex Barron didn’t help -lol). But they have a new coach and talent and will be tough on us. The odds are we lose to the Cowpokes. The Skin’s are no gimme win either. Cleveland surprises a lot of folks. The worst problem they have is a guy named Shurmer. For sure losses, save big upsets, are Pittsburgh, Balt, Philly, NYG, Green Bay, and New Orleans. We have to play the last 4 SB champs. And, we haven’t beat a single good team during Spag’s tenure.

by RamChop on Apr 8, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel late to this discussion, but my 2 cents...

I think what he said had some fairness to it. The main point is that the team with the best QB will win. We have the best QB and no QB in this draft is a touch on Bradford. Due to the CBA I don’t see any QB’s being available in FA or trade either. Kolb is pants and Palmer was the bum in the Bengals offense last year, not the ‘diva WRs’. I agree we don’t have quite the talent level SF and AZ have at playmaker positions, but Sjax and Bradford would be taken over Crabtree and VD all day every day. What use is a WR or TE without a QB?

So in essence, he was kinda harsh, especially on our defense, but not entirely wrong.
On D we lost our best playmaker in Atogwe, which still stings to this day. However, hopefully we can get one in the draft, and safety and OLB is easier to find that a starting QB.

In terms of defensive physicality we are the best in the NFC West hands down too. That was ridiculous, the SF defense had no bite last season and were really soft at crucial times.

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Apr 10, 2011 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

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