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2011 NFL Mock Draft: St. Louis Rams war room edition

A 2011 NFL mock draft can be as good or as bad as what the mock drafter decides to put into it. Generally, I think the web's awash in garbage mock drafts, usually ripped off from some other mock draft. Recently, I joined Will from Rams Herd, Tyson from Pro Football Focus and Tim S (who'll be contributing some to the front page at TST) to game out the St. Louis Rams' approach in a very thorough 2011 mock draft, mysteriously title "Mock Three."

Though I think it had far more trades than can be realistically expected (we tried to make a trade ourselves), it's handled in a solid, logical manner...and at least it's something different. We're through three rounds. So far, the Rams have addressed some key needs and arguably have been able to take some of the best players on the board. Let's review.

Round One: #14, Illinois DT Corey Liuget

Yes, this pick will be panned for the very reason it's considered the "safe" pick, but it was also probably the best one we could have made. It looked like Da'Quan Bowers might slip, but Detroit nabbed him at #13. Beyond that, the possibilities included RB Mark Ingram, DE Ryan Kerrigan or DT Muhammad Wilkerson. It should be pretty obvious why we didn't go for Ingram. The general feeling about Kerrigan was that didn't offer enough complement to Chris Long, and Wilkerson's a little more raw than Liuget, who is generally viewed as the better 3-technique DT at this point.

Rounds two and three below the fold.

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Round Two: #47, Illinois RB Mikel Leshoure

Another mock draft with the all-Illini top two. To me, he was absolutely the best player available. Wide receivers like Hankerson and Torrey Smith were still on the board, but they just, for some reason or another, seem to upgrade the Rams receivers in the way that the group needs upgrading. There were a couple other players on the board at this point worth of some consideration. UNC linebacker Bruce Carter possesses the raw talent to answer the Rams' big need on the weakside. I don't know what kind of difference he would have made this year, and some will argue about the relative value of drafting 4-3 OLBs this high. Had the Rams not picked Liuget in the first, Stephen Paea would have to get strong consideration, probably over Leshoure. Some pundits think OL Ben Ijalana is one of the best linemen in this draft class. Marcus Cannon was available too. 

Round Three: #78, Wisconsin OG John Moffitt

Wisconsin's offensive line was an absolute wall, no, iron curtain this year...and I mean the mean and nasty, shot from a tower, chased by dogs kind of iron curtain. The offensive line up there is kind of like linebackers from Penn State. I was lobbying pretty hard for North Carolina WR Greg Little, but he got snapped up at #75. Both DeMarco Murray and Kendall Hunter were on the board at this point. North Carolina LB Quan Sturdivant, picked right after Moffitt, was another possibility. 

Through three rounds, three big needs addressed. I also like the ability of these players to make instant contributions to the Rams in 2011. Round four should get underway later tonight or tomorrow, and the Rams still have needs at WR, OLB and S to think about before the draft ends. 

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Did the best with what you were given.

Solid draft, but no dazzling home run picks. I really like Liuget, and he addresses a position that has been in flux for years, but I can’t help wishing one of the other players (Aldon Smith, Fairley or Julio) would slip to the Rams.

Still hate the idea of picking an RB in the second round, but the value available was weak in most other positions. Would’ve loved it if Rahim Moore, Brandon Harris or Aaron Williams got to the Rams there, but ideally, I’d trade down from that spot. I don’t mind sounding like a broken record, but with the RB depth in this draft, I can’t see taking one this early. I also like Ryan Williams better than Leshoure, but that’s beside the point. I just wish the SJax comparisons would stop.

Round 3, I’d be targeting a guard as well.

Big fan of the Mock Three structure. Very well thought out.

by Abrantes on Apr 21, 2011 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Good value but

      I subscribe to the RB in the later rounds theory, as well. I like Moffitt, for 3rd round value at guard. He’ll contribute right away, probably start by next year if not by the end of this. It’s hard for me to bite on a draft that doesn’t go D-line OLB, OG and DB in the first 4 rounds with d-line and OG in the first 2.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Apr 21, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Let me ask you this Van.

If you knew Paea would still be there in the 2nd, would you look elsewhere in round 1?

Sam Bradford

by Jombari on Apr 21, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

But there wasn’t much to choose from w/out trading down…we tried

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 21, 2011 6:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The picks on the very right

were those the ones that you were able to get?

Sam Bradford

by Jombari on Apr 21, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

look at ramintheuk's fanpost

he broke down who we got and why

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by Josh Wehrle on Apr 21, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't help but think

our first round pick depends on whether Spags and co. think James Hall or Fred Robbins has a better chance of repeating last season’s success.

THIS year there'll be football. I hope....

by thisguy on Apr 21, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

!st & 3rd are awesome picks

but not a fan of RB in rnd 2, but what are you gonna do. He is an added weapon for our offense and that is a good thing, plus he could take over for Jackson at some point.

by RamsFan1979 on Apr 21, 2011 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

yup not when we need other players

wr,s, de,ilb, olb,you name it RB doesn’t fit that early.

by chndlr54 on Apr 21, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the RB pick

I don’t think Jackson plays 16 games this year. He’s played 16 games just twice (though he played 15 twice as well) – and he’s not getting younger.

I’m interested in Jon Baldwin in the 2nd, though I know he comes with some baggage. It would still be nice to add a 6’5 receiver with talent for the cost of a 2nd rounder.

by Toddius on Apr 22, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

IDK, Baldwin reminds me of David Boston

and that is in respect to what is going on in his head. It doesn’t boast well when your camp points the finger at his college teammates and coach. We need players to take responsibility and are team players, he could potentially be very cancerous to the team.

by RamsFan1979 on Apr 22, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i really dont care if we get julio

as long as we get rice but i think if we get liuget he will be a bust

by TheBradfordEra on Apr 21, 2011 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

War Room 3 of 3 imo on needs accuracy

Liuget = probably IF SMITH, BOWERS, FAIRLY, JONES are gone. Maybe Jordan here?

Rd. 2 = I see the rb being filled here as a possibility or the top OLB left on the board – I like the Georgia kid Houston, but Carter will help too, quicker though in my opinion.

Rd 3. = OG is such a huge need that must be filled in top 3 rounds. I like Moffit. here is the catch, if no rb in 2nd rd., could John Caly get picked-up in 4th round? Then, the 2nd Rd/ pick is an OLB or safety/db.

by jlcdb70 on Apr 21, 2011 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

No Jordan please I DONT THINK HE'LL BE THAT GOOD........FOR US

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 22, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

Too bad you couldn’t trade down to pick up an extra 3rd. Also too bad Aaron Williams didn’t fall (think he’s the one who has Devaney “drooling”) a bit further as he would have represented great value.

Hard to argue with the value of Leshoure, as he can be both a COP back AND a future successor to Jackson, rather than only a COP back. I believe the problem with a COP back later in the draft is that they can’t handle the load if Jackson gets hurt, and when Jackson retires, again can’t handle the load thereby requiring the team to draft another RB later. I think the current trend towards running-back-by-committee hurts the value of guys like Leshoure, who projects to be an every down back.

Moffitt is a nice pick at an extremely important position of need, but I like Rackley a bit more as a prospect. Just a personal preference thing (based, of course, on things I’ve read and a bit of tape I’ve seen, as I didn’t see any Lehigh games). After looking at the 4th rd, however, I think S, like McDaniel, Carter, or Jarrett, may have been a better pick here, seeing as how at least one mock has Demarcus Love going after the Ram’s pick in the 5th. I think if Love had stayed at RG through his career (where he excelled), rather than being moved to LT, he would be seen as a much better prospect.

As far as OLB is concerned, Bruce Carter may have been a good pick in the 2nd, but I for one think Lawrence Wilson is as good a prospect as Foster and Carter, due mostly to his pass coverage skills, which will help the secondary. Wilson reminds me quite a bit of Thomas Davis. If the team can draft a good run stopping SLB, or pick one up in FA, I think Wilson could be a very good WLB.

Given what I’ve seen of this draft so far, I would consider this:
1st: Liuget
2nd: Leshoure
3rd: DeAndre McDaniel/Quinton Carter
4th: Lawrence Wilson
5th: Demarcus Love

One obvious problem is that if you pass on a G like Moffitt in the 3rd, and Love is taken before you draft in the 5th… screwed! So overall, as seeing into the future is not possible and playing it safe with positions of need like OG is prudent… nice draft so far!

by mcihaelT on Apr 21, 2011 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

this
I believe the problem with a COP back later in the draft is that they can’t handle the load if Jackson gets hurt

+1

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by Le Ram on Apr 22, 2011 5:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Cool, except it's not necessarily true.

The issue, as always, is simply picking well.

by Abrantes on Apr 22, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would prefer Washington LB Mason Foster over Mikel Leshoure

He fills an immediate need on the WLB spot and Josh McDaniels prefers his RB’s as pass catcher more than in-between tackle runners. on the 3rd Round we can either go with Wisconsin OG John Moffitt or Temple S Jaquiawn Jarrett Hawaii RB Alex Green fits McDaniels type and he is available around 4-5th rounds

by cnsqram on Apr 22, 2011 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

You can get

LBs late, too. Scouts consider LB to be a position of low positional value (granted, RB is only slightly higher).

by Toddius on Apr 22, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really like Foster and Green

if those 2 were to be our 2nd and 5th round guys I’d be super happy. 1st by all accounts will be Liuget unless something amazing happens. 3rd probably will be a DB, Safety most likely and our 4th can go OG and that would seem to have solidified our needs (- WR) and all in all seems solid. I really dont have any FAVORITES for any specific round but I know once we pick someone I will yell at the TV anbout a guy we coulda get instead lol…so goes the NFL draft.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 22, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen Moffitt drop to the 5th so did he jump up boards recently?

Liuget and Leshore are well decent. Leshore is more of a backup then a change of pace/3rd down back and I’d like someone that has a lil of both. I see lots of value at RB/OG later in the draft so IMO I’d grab DL/OLB/DB in any order which makes more sense in any order.

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Apr 22, 2011 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

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