2011-2012 Bowls: Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl (Illinois vs. UCLA) open thread
Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl (Illinois vs. UCLA), 2:30 PM CST- ESPN
Today I'm bringing you a preview what may possibly be the worst bowl game this year. My Fighting Illini (6-6) will be taking on the Bruins from UCLA (6-7) in San Francisco at AT&T Park in a match up of two teams that both fired their coaches after the regular season.
This is still a game that has some good NFL prospects, especially on the Illinois side which is front lined by Hendricks Award Winner Whitney Mercilus, who lead the nation in sacks with 14 and a half.
More after the jump.
First the NFL prospects for both teams.
UCLA
Jonathan Franklin is a good RB. He has nice speed and good quicks, but he is a bit on the small size. Also has a fumbling problem. Could be a late round pick if he declares.
Nelson Rosario is a good WR for the Bruins. He had over 1,000 yards in his senior season and he has great size (6' 5" 219 lbs.). He doesn't have the blazing speed, but with his size he doesn't really need it. Today's game and the combine will be very important for his stock.
Joseph Fauria is a huge TE. He is 6' 8" and is a good athlete for his size. He has decent hands and will probably be a mid round pick if he declares.
Datone Jones stock is on the rise as he put in a nice season at DE, raking up 6.5 sacks on a bad UCLA defense.
Illinois
First off, the sack leader in the country Whitney Mercilus was simply a beast for my Illini this year. Great motor and he has great bull rush moves. Also has a very nice burst off the line. His weakness is he doesn't have a wide array of moves as of right now, but with his skill set he figures to develop nicely in the NFL. If he puts up some good numbers at the combine, he will be a first rounder.
Another interesting prospect for the Illini is senior WR, AJ Jenkins. He had a break out year for the Illini this season. He had 1,196 yards this season and averaged over 14 yards a catch. He has good speed to get down the field. He is a good route runner and he has fantastic hands. The negatives on him are that he never had to run a complex route tree at Illinois and because of his smaller size (6' 1" 190 lbs.) he really will struggle getting off press coverage in the NFL. Still with his skill set he will be picked around the 3rd or 4th round.
Others to look at: Weak side tackle and 4 year starter Jeff Allen a good pass blocker who will likely be a late round pick. Graham Pocic who is a good run blocking center, but he won't likely come out this year. Michael Buchanan, who will also probably return next season, is developing into a very good edge rusher. Sophomore Jonathan Brown is a monster at OLB. DT Akeem Spence is a very good run defender, but he doesn't provide much as a pass rusher. Corners Tavon Wilson and Terry Hawthorne both have NFL futures, but probably as depth guys.
Season Reviews
As a student at Illinois, I saw the supporters go from complete backing of the coach to calling for his head in a matter of two months. This is because Illinois is the first team in FBS history to start out 6-0 and then finish with 6 loses to go 6-6. The Illini started off hot and were ranked 16th in the nation. We finally believed we've made it as a program; that Zook had finally turned it around. Dreams of the Rose Bowl were in our minds. Little did we know, we weren't even close.
A complete collapse on offense and special teams occurred. The Illini only scored 11 points per game over the last 6 after they averaged over 34 for the first 6. The great thing about the Illini is the defense has been fantastic all year, finishing ranked 7th in total defense in the nation. Their efforts weren't enough to save Ron Zook's job as he was fired after the season.
Illinois has since hired Tim Beckman from Toledo, but he won't be coaching in the game. Instead the Illini will be lead by defensive coordinator Vic Koenning, who will be leaving Illinois to take the same position at North Carolina. Why he wasn't retained at Illinois baffles me.
As for the UCLA side, they had an equally bad season as the Illini. They also fired their coach, Rick Neuheisel, after the season. Offensive Coordinator Mike Johnson will lead the Bruins in the game today. They finished 6-7 and had to get a special wavier to play in a bowl game, which was granted. The reason for the seventh lose is the fact that since USC couldn't participate in postseason play, UCLA played in the Pac-12 Championship, where they lost to Oregon 49-31.
Meanwhile, UCLA hired a big name for HC in Jim Mora Jr. Time will tell if Mora, whose coached in the NFL for a long time, can recruit with the likes of USC in the Pac-12.
UCLA brings an effective offense to face a great Illinois defense today, but the Bruin's defense is just as bad as the Illini offense. This game will come down to if Illinois can get any offense going today. The defense is good enough to stop UCLA, but the offense must put points on the board.
Prediction: Illinois 20 UCLA 6 (What?!?! I'm a homer)
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Mercilus (as much as I love that name for a defender)
Will be this years Fairley (a guy who shows up as a force the year before the draft and then does nothing as a rookie)
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Fairly has had to deal with injuries this season and there are two great DTs in front of him
there was no way he was going to have a huge impact. Mercilus will have a impact right away for an NFL team.
I could be wrong, but those guys who just "happen" to get it together the year before they go to the draft
That’s my version of guys who play well in a contract year. I might be wrong and id take him at the end of the 1st still
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't follow him enough so don't laugh
Ehat position is he? He looks to small for DT but id think I’d here about an end as good as him
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Meh, I never like players like
Fairley and Sanchez. They have that one game at the end that they do great in and everyone dumps all the stock on them; when in reality…it was still just one game.
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
It's been multiple games for Mercilus
14 and a half sacks and the hendricks award for defensive end of the year and finalist for the nagurski award for best linemen.
I didn't mean lumping him in, never watched him play
But I’m just saying there’s usually a guy every year that gets way overhyped
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Dec 31, 2011 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he isn' really hyped up at all
because Illinois players never all. How many times do you hear about Mercilus, maybe one or two?
luigit (sp) last year got plenty of hype
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
Luiget hasn't done a lot either last I checked this year
Right now Luiget and Fairley are working against Mercilus (still love that name)
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
thought he was a DT not an DE
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
I hear though that he hasn't done that job well though
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
But I’m still glad we chose Quinn over him
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Quinn pick was kind of a no-brainer
I do think we’re lucky with him so far. He and Long will be pro-bowlers though when we get a good DT or 2.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Yeah
Whatever happened to that DT at Michigan St? I heard about him as a 1st rounder and now he’s not mentioned, has his year been that bad?
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Could Mercilus gain weight and strength and be a DT?
The description on him paints him more as a DT in my mind
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just found out he's 6'4
Too big for DT
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Only on Linehans team
The scientific term for that process is called Carrickering, Reverse Carrickering is what’s happening to Luiget at SD.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Yeah, I didn't know he was that tall
And he’s supposedly really strong and bullrushes great but doesnt have a lot of refined moves, that sounds like a DT. On a different note: would you take Jeff Fisher as HC and Norv Turner as the OC?
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree trying to move guys to different positions in the NFL usuall isn't a good move
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm beginning to buy into the Spags for another year thing.
Not real firm though. I want to see the new GM first. Spags would have to agree to some changes though. Norv would be fine as a OC. But that’s not realistic. If Spags is fired, Fisher is my favorite of the names being thrown around. Not real high on him either. He too, would have to change. That’s a lot to expect from HCs.
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 3:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Norv is realistic
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 3:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Norv is realistic
The problem is that Spags ultra conservative and control freak style would ruin Borv’s offense
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 3:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I mean I don't think Norb would consider us as a destination at OC, lateral move to a struggling franchise.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's not gonna get any HC offers
And teams that are good on offense dont have openings. You get Sam and a young team you can try to mold (hopefully with Floyd and Bowe) and after next season LOTS of money to spend
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 3:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he'd be fine with me
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 3:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Long has some moves though
And Mercilus sounds and looks stronger. But it was a crazy idea where I was just asking if there was a reason we as Rams fans should care
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's why I was asking if maybe DT switch was a possibility
Whatever happened to Jerel Worthy? I hear no one mention him anymore
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd take him in the 3rd in a heartbeat
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He won't be there in the 3rd
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Then id take him late 2nd
I think he is a 1st round talent, I’m going off what Brick Top said
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 3:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he'd be very worthy, hehehehe
Worthy, legit and merciless. This is getting interesting.
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 3:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
the all adjective foursome
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 5:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Long, Worthy, Luiget, and Mercilus
It IS the all adjective 4 some
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not until later after the season
Mercilus hype this year is well deserved. He’s had a huge breakout year, after only starting twice last year he’s got the sack and TFL stats going for him. But he’s also got a lot of FFs, he’s a junior and could be comparable to JPP or Aldon Smith. He’s that good, and neither of those guys got a lot of hype until the last parts of their last seasons. At the beginning of this season, I gotta admit he wasn’t even on my radar, but that’s the definition of a break out year, I guess.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
And people still thought Aldon went too high
They (me included) were wrong.
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 1:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fairley won all those awards as well
He still hasn’t done anything. And Corey Williams isn’t as good as youre hyping
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 12:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
By the way keep an eye on Nelson Rosario
6’5" and damn good hands, not real fast but a good possession type WR. I’d love him in the 6-7th but his stock is rising, because of a couple of highlight reelers in the last couple games. One in particular probably bumped up his stock a couple rounds, a one hander against USC, I think.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
I like Stephen Hill as a late round guy
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just thought of this post when I saw that
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wait! It's pronounced Mar-sell-es?
I thought it was Mer-si-less like hes merciless
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I have no clue it's to weird of a name
I just say mer-si-less like you. Liuget is a weird one too, so I just call him lou-get like he’s legit. I have no idea where we find these players with these weird names.
I get it
Your DT’s are legit and merciless
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 31, 2011 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
that was grounding
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 3:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
stupid playcall
And even dumber announcer call
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 4:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
CB Terry Hawthorne
Physical and opportunistic. That kid plays fast.
he's a good corner
the only worry I have with him is playing man coverage because simply, I rarely see him try it.
prince is easily the shittiest qb in the pac
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by dbcouver on Dec 31, 2011 5:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
NO CHICK-FIL-A BOWL
OPEN THREAD?
WE SUCK. THAT IS ALL.
by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Dec 31, 2011 7:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions

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