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NFL Coaching Rumors: Jeff Fisher To The Rams? Billy Devaney Sticking Around?

The St. Louis Rams are close to making some big changes when the 2011 regular season comes to a close on Sunday afternoon. Nature hates a vacuum, and so does a non-stop media environment. Jon Gruden and A.J. Smith filled the void earlier in the week, rumored to be in contention for the head coaching and general manager gigs in St. Louis. A report today from Don Banks at SI.com says the Rams are really in play for Jeff Fisher, another big fish in the pool of available coaches.

What's Banks saying about Fisher as Spagnuolo's potential replacement? And rumors about Billy Devaney's next job that will surprise you...after the jump.

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First and foremost, Banks cites sources who say that Kroenke has not made up his mind about whether or not to fire Steve Spagnuolo and Billy Devaney; however, Spagnuolo is likely done. Devaney has a chance to survive the purges.

The Rams, and Kroenke's, top choice to replace Spagnuolo is Jeff Fisher, the former Titans head coach who agreed to an amicable break up with the team he coached from 1994 through 2010. Two dots connect Fisher to the Rams.

First, the Demoff angle. As has been pointed out, Fisher's agent is Marvin Demoff, the father of Kevin Demoff, Rams COO and Executive Vice President of Football Operations. Demoff is Kroenke's central point of contact for dealings with the team. From Banks:

There's a comfort zone between the younger Demoff and Fisher, and Demoff is the guy Kroenke relies on most for the day-to-day contact to the club. His say will carry considerable weight.

That cap situation is another factor in making the Rams a desirable landing spot for Fisher. In 2013, the Rams will have between $40-45 million in cap space, according to Demoff. Throw in a bona fide franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, and it's a nice landing spot for a guy looking to get back in the coaching game.

But what about all that stuff with A.J. Smith and the Chargers?

Some of that rumor seeding has to be coming from someone around Smith, or Smith himself. The Chargers are not guaranteed to fire Smith, and rumors linking him with Gruden and Fisher could be attempts to position himself to stay in San Diego with a new head coach.

Banks says that sources in St. Louis think that Smith will end up sticking with the Chargers. Smith and Fisher might not have the chemistry for a good working relationship, egos and all that business. If Smith goes, Fisher may be more apt to take a job in San Diego, working with Philip Rivers and the makings for a quick turnaround.

The biggest shock in all of this is Banks leaving the door open to Billy Devaney staying around as the Rams' General Manager. It's shocking after all the talk of draft picks and free agents gone belly up, though the coaches the responsibility for that. In addition to developing, or not developing prospects, Spagnuolo has had a tremendous say in arranging the draft board, even doing some scouting of his own. You don't think all those former Eagles and Giants got brought in without a request from Spags do you? And McDaniels got the team to shake up the draft board this year, picking Lance Kendricks in the second round and following that with two receivers.

Devaney could stick around, according to a source cited by Banks, if Fisher is hired. Fisher would be the man in charge, I would assume. With some clear accountability for the football product, could Devaney and Fisher strike a good working relationship?

It's a lot to process.

We took at look at Gruden yesterday, and we'll take a more in-depth look at Jeff Fisher tomorrow. Suffice it to say that he has his detractors as well.

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I’d think if one person would be kept, it’d be Spagnuolo. Devaney hasn’t had the most impressive draft slate in the last four years..

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by Eric Nagel on Dec 29, 2011 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

Surprising yes

But we don’t know who’s bright idea it was to not develop some of his picks and instead bring in a bunch of deadbeat FAs. If Stan directed him to give Stan and Josh the keys then I’d say it would be a remote possibility that you would keep Devaney especially if he was a voice of descent for some of the moves. Doubtful because ultimately it should be the GMs responsibility unless there was medleing.

by Sggladden on Dec 29, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

How do you sell that

to season ticket holders?

"To crush the Seahawks, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women."

by STLRambler on Dec 30, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Devaney needs to go!

I can’t imagine we actually keep him at the end of the day. He doesnt draft well and has made awful decisions with personel

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 5:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

If Devaney stays, he will only work as a check

I expect Jeff would get most the GM power (some feel he shoul become a GM) and Devaney would only act as someone to keep him from going wild with it

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 5:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Devaney is getting a bad rap

He has brought in some good players (ie, Laurinaitis, Saffold, Murphy, Quinn). It’s Spagnuolo and company who haven’t been able to develop them and/or cut them (ie, Laurent Robinson, Thad Lewis, George Selvie). I think Devaney’s biggest issue is that he is allowing his coaches to rule the decision process too much (ie, Kendricks, all the Eagles etc.)

I’m not saying the Rams can’t do better, I just think that Devaney has done a reasonable job as a talent evaluator (Jason Smith aside)

by Jim Everett on Dec 29, 2011 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

It does come down to Spags' influence

Is he getting too much say and picking his old washed up eagles and giants instead of young guys like Jabara

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh please

The Rams have fewer drafted players on their roster than virtually any other team. He’s gotten a few players (who frankly aren’t that good – they would likely be backups on other teams and certainly aren’t stars) but most just flat out stink.

by DiscoJer on Dec 29, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Those were all #1 and #2 picks

You’re not supposed to miss on guys when they are taken with the second or thirty fourth overall pick in the draft. Thats called ‘meeting expectations.’ Good GMs have guys on the roster they drafted in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th rounds.

Can you name Devaney’s late round picks?

"To crush the Seahawks, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women."

by STLRambler on Dec 30, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would anyone let Jeff Fisher near their team?

Look at my fanshot I posted and try and justify his actions in any way.

His greatest achievement is losing a superbowl to the Rams. He has had something awful like only 6 winning seasons as head coach and has coached incredibly mediocre teams for such a long time it’s not even funny.

The dude’s philosophies are archaic and he is more stubborn and controlling than Spags is, without the tactical mastery of a specific element of a team.

The dude would be a terrible choice to be allowed near any team.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 29, 2011 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

He was forced to draft Vince Young

Thats when it went down hill

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 5:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

he didn't draft him

but he didn’t coach him either…

literally, all I can do is implore you talk to a Titans fan about Fisher and see what positives they have to say.

The dude was not wanted in Tennesse any more, by players, ownership OR fans.
No one mourned his departure. Now look how bright the Titans’ future looks with a solid off season and some maturation from Locker.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 29, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Sometimes it's just time for a change

And don’t put it all on him that VY didn’t get coached. VY wasn’t exactly open to coaching, he’s like the only qb to not put up monster stats under Andy Reid

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 5:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

in like 4 games lol

seriously, give VY an offseason in that offense and a nice handful of starts and people will forget how ‘disappointing’ he was in Tennessee.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 29, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I won't

And you can’t deny, VY has been a bit of a “I’m the greatest and you can’t teach me anything” knucklehead

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

i disagree

i see VY as a hyper sensitive guy who;s let any and all criticism fundamentally alter his confidence. The pressure of being picked high and etc. and the dsires of the coaching staff to turn him into a QB he isn’t has lead to him overthinking and underperforming.

look at how he was efficient and a gamechanger when they suited the offense to his strengths? also look at how CJ hit 2k that same season… then they tried to change him again. Why? pig headedness, ego and stupidity.

Granted, VY could have been more emotionally secure etc. but on the field, in an offense that suited him, he was a good player. I avoid the term ‘winner’ but all that dude did was win, and i don’t really think it was because Fisher wanted him to lol

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 29, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

He was a good starter who did what was needed of him

But your listening to Skip Bayless too much man. I agree with him at times, but he’s always convinced someones intentionally at fault of something. I think it was never a good pairing cause Fisher is hard nosed and can be overly critical (that’s who he is, not gonna change) and VY does not (it’s proven like when he threw his pads in the stands at someone, and then he ditched the team his last year in TN) do well with criticism, he takes it to much as a knock on him and not as someone trying to coach him. Fisher coulda been nicer to him, and VY coulda been more open to his coaches trying to tell him where to improve. In the end, it’s a pairin the owner shouldn’t have forced in the first place. I also think VY wanted to be more of a star player (no knock against him for it) and that’s just not the system The Fish runs, which causes issues.

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

(it’s proven like when he threw his pads in the stands at someone, and then he ditched the team his last year in TN)

That was Fisher throwing VY under the bus. VY was pleading to let him in the game and Fisher declined and it cost them the game. He wanted to play Rusty Smith over VY and VY told him to F himself.

That was all on Fisher. VY went about it the wrong way but that’s further evidence Fisher let personal agenda get in the way of putting the team first.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 29, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't say that to your coach if you're a qb

Im sorry, but you don’t go off on a coach who’s been there as long as Fisher. Wasn’t VY also hurt? VY was an immature jerk at times, and a franchise qb can’t be like that

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 11:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Granted, VY was immature

but we’re talking about Fisher, and you don’t insist on playing Rusty F’in Smith over VY when VY is warming up on the sideline.

The injury to VY was one VY felt he could play with, and Fisher ignored his attempts throughout the 2nd half to get back on the field.

It cost the Titans the game.

That’s pig headed ego to the detriment of your team, regardless of what you think about VY.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 30, 2011 5:19 AM CST up reply actions  

If I have a immature baby (VY) as my qb, I keep him out with an injury

Smith wasn’t losing them the game, and I have seen VY’s throwing motion, its all about flicking his wrist (I have the same motion cause I love it). With a wrist injury, Fisher might have felt that VY wasn’t gonna be able to get the velocity he needed. I know from experience, if I even jam my wrist it makes that throwing motion difficult, and VY had a much more painful injury.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 30, 2011 12:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

it was a thumb injury

and VY was playing very well that game and it was in fact Smith’s ineffectual play that cost them the game.

They were in the lead when VY got hurt and if i remember correctly they did not score once Smith came into play.

You’re making excuses for Fisher being an archaic, egotistical maniac in that instance. VY was warming up on the sideline and throwing the ball. I’d take a slightly injured VY over Rusty Smith any day.

Fisher did not do what was best for the team: FACT.
He may have done what was best for Rusty Smith, himself, and maybe even VY, but he put his team in a position to lose, not win.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 30, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

also

i don’t have ESPN so can’t listen to Skip Bayless, and to say that Fisher is hard nosed and overly critical (and that’s how he is) absolves him of anything.

McDaniels is a douchebag and bad at his job, but that’s just who he is, not gonna change. If we all hate him for this, why is it ok for Jeff Fisher to archaic, conservative, overly critical and hard nosed?

At the end of the day, if Fisher swallowed his pride, like John Fox has in Denver, and played a way to suit the talent he had, he would have won more games. The same way McD is ruining our team by being stubborn and forcing square pegs into circle holes, Fisher did likewise in Tennessee. The fact VY did not work out is only partly to blame on VY himself.
It is the coaches job to be enablers and allow the team to maximise talent and potential. We criticise our coaches for not doing better with the little talent we have, yet the solid talent was also incorrectly utilised in Tenn and some people want him as head coach?

I repeat again, how could ANYONE want that as the future of our team?

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 30, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

All good points except for one:

They drafted VY to be a successor to Steve McNair. This wasn’t asking him to be something he wasn’t, because VY idolized McNair. He kept a picture of him in his locker his entire time at Texas.

"Fac Fortia et Patere"

by FailureDrill on Dec 29, 2011 9:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

True

but McNair didn’t seem as emotionally unstable and was more malleable to coaches’ desires.

They wanted VY to be a drop back QB in the NFL, when it isn’t his game. If they tailored the offense to suit his strengths, like Carolina have Cam Newton, I don’t doubt that VY, if healthy, would be one of the most dangerous players in the league.

This is partly on VY for not being as coachable as he should be, but it’s entirely on the coaches and Fisher for not working with what they have to benefit the team.

When the owner stepped in and said an 0-6 start is unacceptable, in came VY, a tailored offense to suit him, and thus an 8-2 record and 2k yards for CJ.

The evidence proves that Fisher purposefully held that team back purely out of being unhappy the owner drafted a QB he didn’t want.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 30, 2011 5:23 AM CST up reply actions  

and the team lost the first 6 games

seriously man. Stop with the lame half nothing excuses lol

He didn’t start VY for whatever reasons… those reasons were detrimental to the team. FACT.

When VY was playing the Titans won games. VY put the Titans in position to win games. He was the most talented player at his position on the roster and his presence made Chris Johnson more effective due to defense’s extra attention placed on him.

To not play the best guy you have for whatever reason at QB is unacceptable.

The record speaks for itself. Without VY (since 06 when he was drafted) Fishers’ record is 14 -16. With VY in same time span they were 26-9.

Anything you say to defend Fisher’s late reign as HC of the Titans are excuses. The exact same thing everyone wants to say about Steve Spagnuolo.

You can’t say because a coach held a job for 17 seasons (and only had 6 winning seasons) that he is absolved of being fuck awful in the last 2 years of his job. He mismanaged the roster and he showed that his brand of football is archaic, and he is unwilling to change. He was a conservative coach.

These are all things we lambast Spags for, so why is Fisher getting a pass and Spags is not?

The grass is not always greener on the other side homie.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 30, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Because

He has 17 years of head coaching experience with a .580 winning percentage. He has been to a super bowl, but hasn’t won a super bowl. So he is still hungry.

"To crush the Seahawks, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women."

by STLRambler on Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

in those 17 seasons he has only had 6 wining seasons.

he’s more conservative than Spagnuolo is, and it is often said about Fisher that his biggest flaw is his stubbornness and ego. Have we heard that before?

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 30, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Good call

Our defense has improved quite a bit with coach Spags influence in drafts, but now if we have a head coach who focuses on the whole team, that’d help our defense quite a bit. We can have a great defense, but any defense gets fatigued if they are playing too much in the game. Football is a tough game, Coach Spags will be fine and understanding if he gets fired. But who’s to think we can’t hire him as our defensive coordinator? If any head coach accepts a demotion, it’s Coach Spags. He loves his defense, so let him keep it. But of course you all think that’s unrealistic. Money talks, and hell he may get a small first year contract, but we will have a lot more money in the coming years and I’m pretty sure someone will get traded to free up money this upcoming offseason. I think this draft, we focus on offense, and just a little more defense.

Abu Nation!

by Xmisto on Dec 29, 2011 6:04 PM CST reply actions  

you do know there last in rush def

by lil_smokie60 on Dec 29, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

And dead last overall

In the three year period he was here.

"To crush the Seahawks, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women."

by STLRambler on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather keep Spags than Devaney.

I feel like Fisher would command Belichick-like control over the franchise, as well. That would make me nervous.

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Dec 29, 2011 6:05 PM CST reply actions  

this.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Dec 29, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Then you

Have Stockholm Syndrome.

"To crush the Seahawks, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women."

by STLRambler on Dec 30, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind that

Look at his team, it’s successful every year.

Abu Nation!

by Xmisto on Dec 29, 2011 6:12 PM CST reply actions  

Gimme

Mooch before Fisher. The D is leap years ahead of the O. Perhaps a guy with an O background should be sought after rather than another D background.

by RWRAMS28 on Dec 29, 2011 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

Jay Gruden or Chudzinski?

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Jay! haha

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Dec 29, 2011 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I meant would he be good with either

I don’t really have a preference of those two, I’d be good with either

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 29, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea Im kinda Bias

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Dec 29, 2011 7:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed.

It’s all about the offence in today’s NFL. Defences can minimize points scored, but the days of shutting down a top ranked team are done. It used to be that a team with a great defence could win a championship with an adequate offence, but I think it’s now the other way around. You need a great offence and at least an adequate defence.

Get a great offensive mind who’s ready for a head coaching position and better days will follow.

by Jim Everett on Dec 29, 2011 7:04 PM CST reply actions  

It looks like that guy is trying to film fisher taking a wiz. LOL!

- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K

by leadhead on Dec 29, 2011 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Fisher

is a great pick! But Billy needs to go Bye-Bye………….

by Jas the Mace on Dec 29, 2011 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

Why do people critique grammar on a football website? Jeff Fisher or John Gruden. I’d take either one, I trust Kroenke and his decisions.

Abu Nation!

by Xmisto on Dec 29, 2011 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

Admittedly, I'm a little anal from time to time about grammar and soelling

but I usually don’t say anything.

But holy dogshit, some of these posts are borderline illiterate. I understand its a football website, but failing to convey the English language at the 5th grade level is not only sad, but frustrating to read.

If you don’t care enough to form a proper sentence, why should I care about your opinion on football?

"Fac Fortia et Patere"

by FailureDrill on Dec 30, 2011 12:20 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

*Spelling.

That is completely an Android mistake.

"Fac Fortia et Patere"

by FailureDrill on Dec 30, 2011 12:21 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Irony.

It’s a motherfucker.

"Fac Fortia et Patere"

by FailureDrill on Dec 30, 2011 1:43 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

kronkie

will not bring in big name coach to st. louis

by lil_smokie60 on Dec 29, 2011 10:43 PM CST reply actions  

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