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Report: Rams Ready To Part Ways With Spagnuolo, McDaniels After The Season

St. Louis Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo is likely out after this season, according to another report today.

At 2-11 with each loss blurring together with the last one, the odds do not favor Steve Spagnuolo keeping his job as head coach of the St. Louis Rams. A report from the San Diego Union Tribune in November noted that team owner Stan Kroenke was already planning make changes at head coach and general manager. Today, Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network noted something similar, saying on the air that sources told him the Rams plan to "blow things up" after the season ends.

Whether you blame the injuries, the personnel decisions, or the weather, it's pretty tough to stand by what the Rams have done this season.

Lots more after the jump...

Star-divide

There's no shortage of head scratching decisions with this team. Bernie Miklasz noted this morning the coaching staff's stubborn refusal to adapt the game for Sam Bradford similar to what they did with Kellen Clemens and A.J. Feeley. Not hiring a quarterbacks coach looked like a poor decision at the time because of the lockout and a new system. The defense is playing better, after 12 games, but it's notable that last year's group of outside linebackers made for a better unit than this year's group.

Other teams have handled similar injury situations, the Seattle Seahawks for instance, with aplomb. Add in the anecdotal stuff you hear about the coaching staff - e.g. Mike Karney's interview in which he noted Spags barely talks to the players during halftime, telling considering how poorly the team plays after the half - and it's pretty tough sell to keep the coach.

Finally, whether Spagnuolo's a good guy or not, it would be pretty tough to try and sell season tickets, much less get a new stadium, by bringing the same bunch back to lead the team in 2012.

Opinions aside, this is the second high profile report claiming that the Rams will make coaching changes ahead of the 2012 season.

LaCanfora's news does conflict with a report from Adam Schefter over the weekend that the Rams would like to keep McDaniels. With the changes coming in Kansas City, there's plenty of talk that McDaniels could be brought in as the offensive coordinator, where he'd be working for Scott Pioli and with Kyle Orton and Matt Cassel.

As for Spagnuolo, he could probably have his pick of defensive coordinator jobs. Many still believe he could go back to Philly, where Andy Reid once saw him as the eventual successor to Jim Johnson.

For the Rams, it's yet another coaching change, and it's more important than ever that they get it right this time.

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So I voted no

Am I crazy? For some strange reason, I just have this feeling that we should stick with him now.

No idea why.

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by Eric Nagel on Dec 19, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

However

McDnaiels HAS to go.

Along with many of the position coaches (STEVE LONEY, COUGH COUGH)

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by Eric Nagel on Dec 19, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

That's exactly how I feel. I'm really going to miss his defense.

We’ve always sucked against the run. That’s nothing new, but I loved getting used to actually seeing constant pressure on opposing QBs.

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Dec 19, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

And I agree with this.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I think this may be the right answer. I mean lack of offseason asside. The Rams dont have

the right personnel. Their tight end passing offense is weak at tight end when they have a smash it up the middle running back and smash it up the middle guards. The Rams should maybe start with a smash mouth offense and extend from there.

- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K

by leadhead on Dec 19, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, cause there's tons of mitigating factors that have led to our failure this year other than the coach?

You’re a convert Eric. It’s OK.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Lets does not have a comma in the context you used the word.

And Spags lets him call the games that way. But on an offense void of protection, it wouldn’t matter who called the plays.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

i love it when ppl who correct get corrected lol

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Dec 20, 2011 7:01 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 20, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

So

Spags should have fired McD a few weeks ago and everything would be OK ?

"For Better or for Worse; 'Till Death Do Us Part"

GO RAMS !!!

by Le Ram on Dec 20, 2011 3:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Not necessarily, but by not keeping him in check, not firing the position coaches that are clearly failing ... Spags is ultimately responsible

Some of you don’t understand the concept of responsibility and/or accountability.

I keep hearing “It’s not Spags’ fault.”

Yes it is.

Alex Song - Krunk as Fuck!

by Midasknight on Dec 20, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, you're crazy, wanna know how I know?

Cause you’re agreeing with Pekka, who is so obviously the new RamChop. Remember what happened the last time this site had a RamChop

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry bro.

Just cause I don’t follow the leader like you do. In that regard, I am just like RamChop.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

You also sound blatanly condescending at every turn

And give no reasons. You say “there are multiple reasons why this team fails besides coaching”. Ok then, name them. And for God’s sake, drop it with the injuries. If McCarthy can win a SB with 15 big names on IR, Spags can win at least 4-5 games.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Condescending isn't against the rules around here.

Especially when people like you are blatantly disrespectful toward everything that has to do with Rams football…besides your Sam. So you kinda deserve it, especially from real fans who seek out real solutions to the Rams’ problems that don’t involve blowing shit up three years after we just tried that.

Haha, I guess the whole Packers team was on the IR last year….not….clown.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Everything that has to do with Rams football?

You mean losing? Cause that’s Rams football. I love Kurt, and Marshall. They played their positions the way they should have been played.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

So you turn on the whole team?

So you can’t see any kind of silver lining? You can’t see that we have a foundation now as opposed to 2009 when Spags started? Do we have Kurt and Marshall? Holt? Bruce? Az? Problem is that you’re not even trying to find a silver lining, you just wanna start over. But we have NOT given Spags enough time to unfuck a fucked up situtaiton.

If you can’t see that, then I can’t help you dude. And instead of insulting one another, we should just live and let live.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see a silver lining in having a Spags foundation

Cause I don’t want a crappy foundation

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Guess that's just where you and me differ then.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Pekka check your email

We have a story to write.

I’ll still take the FIRE SPAGS NOW side.

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by Eric Nagel on Dec 19, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm about done.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

How can we believe what you say now Eric, now that you've gone over to the Darkside...

;-)

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Huge impact players on the Pack was on IR

Know what they did? Got great play out of 2nd year player Clay, Rookie Bulaga, UDFA Sam Shields, and old man Donald Driver. They got next guy up to work, Spags can’t. His next guy up was Justin King.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Not to mention

Tramon Williams went from completely underrated to elite in that postseason. Dude was better than Woodson in the playoffs.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, NEXT MAN UP

Guys stepped it up (even if it wasnt there position hurting) to make up for injuries

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

So do you think we have that kind of depth?

After being a bad 1-15 two years prior?

That’s what makes you completely delusional.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

We have much better depth and talent than tha 1-15 two years ago,

that’s for sure. And no, not a 2-14 team’s worth, either.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You talkin' about the guys on the IR?

Or those actually playing?

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, where was "next man up"

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm saying injuries

shouldn’t affect our team as much as they did two years ago, but we are seemingly just as bad when we’re really not. I mean, I understand being so bad RIGHT NOW with the o-linemen on IR, but there is NO excuse for the first half. We are just a godawful football team.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

If we don't have enough depth to not look pathetic when the most injury plagued team last year won the super bowl

That means Spags and BD having been adding talented players (which is why they have been brought here)

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

*havent

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You're comparing the Rams to the Packers now.

You make no sense dude. I can’t compete with this type of logic.

You win. I’m wrong.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm saying if they can win a Super Bowl

At the least we should be competitive in games, not look like sad sacks.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Pekka, I'm intrigued - how many more seasons do you want to give Steve Spagnuolo? Or do you have faith in his talent that he'll turn things around next season?

And, say he gets a few more wins in 2012 – would you be happy with a 5-11 season, or 6-10? Legit questions fella…

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

At least one more year.

Give him a shot without injuries….or at least without three quarters of the team being injured. I want to see us give him one more year. If we have a fairly healthy team and we show progress from our 7-9 season, then we should extend him. So if the offense looks like its finally starting to come around and the defense looks pretty good, then I would extend Spags. If not, then I can’t justify keeping him around any longer. But you can’t cast him off after this godawful year…..considering the injuries especially.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool, thanx for your opinion

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

And they got a little stability from UDFA James Starks as well.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

6th round pick I think

But same thing if you ask devaney

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You're right,

thought his knee injury scared everyone.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That was really smart.

Please stop humping my leg every day MK.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Spags can win at least 4-5 games.


Great point Sam. Spags should have led this team to at least two more wins by now this season, as an absolute bare-assed minimum. Hell, if it wasn’t for a lousy FG by the Browns, we’d be 1-13.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, this isn't a bad season

This is a disaster that excuses can’t excuse

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We'd be 3-13 if Peterson hadn't returned that TD.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean the actually late game situation was handled horribly

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it was something along the line of:

We had the ball and were tied I think and we were in FG range. Spags inexplicably goes for it on 4th the one time he shoulda taken the field goal (not knowing when to go for it and when to not). We didnt get it and then we got the ball back somehow and this time the field goal got blocked and it was from longer away than the other woulda been. Then we go to OT

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ok

so now we can blame spags for trying to get a yard and failing since we know we the result but if he punts the ball on 4th and 1 he’s chickenshit with no balls?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

truth is

ive never had a problem with spags punting on and 4th and 1 because our oline has had a problem picking up short yardage since last season

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm saying: know when to go for it

Go for it down by 7 with 2 minutes left. Not when you’re tied with a minute left in FG range

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I know....

….let’s get a Monday morning quarterback to be the coach!

That would WORK!!!! You made that shit up dude.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I did not

That is what happened in the first cardinal game

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and pekka made a good point

do you guys even realize that some of your candidates to take spags job are espn analysts? Im sorry but i will not be a fan of the team that takes jon gruden from monday night football so he can spout his bullshit to our players

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd take his brother or Chud

Those guys are young innovative coaches who deserve a shot. That’s how you get a good coach, by going after coordinators till it works, nit even kidding. That’s how you find a great head coach, not by recycling old guys

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

jay gruden?

is he not the offensive coordinator that spags shut down last week?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

He's clearly a good football mind who has gotten amazing play out of his players

Who were expected to be awful going into the season

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Like Spags did for the Giants?

Great, we’ll get another coach who has no experience to take over for one that does.

At least you’ll continue to have something to bitch about.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Spags had Strahan, Osi, Tuck, Kiwanuka, Antonio Pierce

Not AJ Green and Dalton. The bengals have a young team with no leaders on their team, jay has been the steadying force.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

so??

did you even know who justin tuck was before that super bowl? and antonio pierce? maybe slightly above average at best

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Still, that's a more stable group than AJ green and Dalton as rookies

Strahan and Pierce were leaders who stabilized that D. Jay has had to be the stabilizing leader for his offense

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I know you didn't just call that bitching!

That’s not fucking bitching!

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
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by RAMpage28 on Dec 19, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The better version of that to use on Pekka would be:

I KNOW YOU DIDN’T CALL THAT LOGIC! THATS NOT FUCKING LOGIC!

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

sorry buddy not sold on him

your going to have to do more than be the offensive coordinator for a team that went 10-6 in 2009 and is 8-6 now much thanks to the play of your defense to win me over. But you just hate spags that much that anybody will do

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll take Chudzinski or Fisher as well

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

lol ok

well fisher just got done getting fired from the titans where his franchise qb was suicidal, chudzinski is coming from a team that was picking number 1 overall last year soooo no.

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

A team he wasnt a part of the year before

And Fisher never wanted VY

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ya i just realized he wasnt with them before that

but you know what he was doing before this year which is his first as an offensive coordinator he was a tight ends coach for san diego. The man has one year of experience being an oc and you want HIM to be our head coach?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry, he was doing what did you say?

Coaching ANTONIO MUTHA FUCKA GATES! you mean the best TE in the league before his plantar fasciatis who was an UDFA. Before that? He was at THE U! Coaching Shockey, K2, and and Bubba Franks. Go back farther than that? He was a TE at The U who came up with a play that became a huge part of their offense. He basically introduced the Tebow Jump Pass.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

oh no you cant really be this dumb could you?

so you want to hire the most decorated tight ends coach to come and be the head coach of the st louis rams?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

so if you want any credibilty here

give me the name of a candidate that actually has promise, you know something like spags had when we hired him.

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

and if not

WE. SHOULD. STICK. WITH. SPAGS

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm giving you the names of young talented coordinators

Who none-backwoods idiots would agree are better than Spags. Know why? Cause a bag of weed is better than Spags! A BAG OF WEED A BAG OF WEED EVERYTHING’S THINGS BETTER WITH A BAG OF WEED

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and who fucking cares what he wanted

under his coaching a franchise player who was a beast wanted to kill himself what about that resume makes you want this guy to be OUR head coach?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Its his fault someone had psychological issues they needed to deal with?

How many people have you saved from suicide? None most likely? Thats cause it’s almost impossible to know someone was gonna commit suicide before they do it!

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Say what you will about fisher the man gets results.

Chud. Yeah they panthers picked 1st last year but he’s doing pretty damn well with that first overall draft pick.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Dec 19, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

what results

being fired or running a franchise into the ground?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

He got to a super bowl and made the titans

One of the more consistently good teams in the NFL.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
"I learned that Madonna will be singing at the Super Bowl. I thought this was football not the soundtrack to your menopause." ~ RAMpage28

by RAMpage28 on Dec 19, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a difference though ...

RamChop at least knew something about football.

Alex Song - Krunk as Fuck!

by Midasknight on Dec 19, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Genius.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL.
15 big names on IR

Ok, there was ONE Pro-Bowl selection on the Packers’ IR list from last year.

Nick Barnett, once, in 2007. That’s it.

Fail. Try again please.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"

"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."

-Sam Bradford

by TrojanRam on Dec 19, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

McCarthy

coldn’t win yesterday when he faced the adversity of a couple injured OL. The Pack didn’t have 15 “big names” on IR last year. The most important group OL was together 16 of the 20 games. How many games this year have we had the same OL? McCarthy wouldn’t have won anymore games this year than Spags. How about this give Spags Ted Thompson and see what he could do. Or perhaps give McCarthy Billy D.

by RWRAMS28 on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

We better not keep McDaniels.

I want an offensive coordinator who isn’t afraid to use his pro bowl power running back to gain 1 yard. I’ve never seen anything stupider than McDaniels’ short yardage playcalling. If he’s not gone, I’ll be pissed. He’s worse than Shurmur.

by StopSpe on Dec 19, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

because jackson is routinely

knocked the fuck out behind the line of scrimmage because of our line and the whole world expects us to use him. If his plays would have worked noone would be talkign shit about them right now.

by Bralidore on Dec 19, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

San Diego Union Tribune

Can just go fuck theirselves. Why would Stan even talk to some shit whole of a paper

by Steven M. on Dec 19, 2011 4:03 PM CST reply actions  

That was fucking hateful.

2 men enter 1 man leaves. THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THUNDER DOME!
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by RAMpage28 on Dec 19, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Gonna miss you, Spags :(

No doubt in my mind he bounces back nicely, a change is just necessary for both parties.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:07 PM CST reply actions  

You don't fire someone and expect him to come back for a lesser job lol.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure he can get any open DC job he wants.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Aren't you the USC fan?

Sorry that your losing Matt, Matt, and TJ

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It's only Kalil and Nick Perry as far as I'm concerned.

Haven’t even heard a rumor on Barks or TJ yet.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Before the public speculation that TJ is leaning towards leaving,

he was almost a lock to stay from anyone inside USC. I wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves with all the high evaluations he’s gotten from scouts, but until he says he’s leaving, I won’t but it. Of course, one scout saying he could be the best USC safety since Polamalu (possibly better) didn’t help, but I’d be happy for him either way. As for Matt, I’m sure the chances are slim after Kalil declared, but I’m holding onto any chance of him returning at this point.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

TJ > Polamalu?

Someone needs to bitch slap that analyst.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think he was going off of his physical attributes,

which makes sense as TJ’s measurables are elite. He does have the same work ethic as Troy does too. Doesn’t hurt that Tim McDonald is his father either hah.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Still, Polamalu has instincts you can't teach

He’s losin it now though cause he’s getting slower cause of injury and can’t back track to make up for when he goes to make the play and was wrong. Offenses scheme around getting Polamalu to guess and go after him when he guesses wrong

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think TJ will be better,

but it makes sense that some scouts feel that way. I mean, a blue collar guy with elite athleticism and talent is REALLY hard to find nowadays. Troy’s instincts are the only thing that’ll probably separate them. I remember in a playoff game between the Steelers and the Broncos (around 2006), Troy was literally everywhere and in on every play. One of the best games from a safety I’ve ever seen.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

What Did You

Think about Taylor Mays as a Trojan? What dou think is holding him back as a pro?

by ValdezY on Dec 19, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Taylor Mays was ALLLLL athleticism and talent.

Dude was beyond elite when it came to his measurables. Problem is, he has ZERO instincts as a safety. I honestly think he would have been better suited had he been switched to ‘backer early in his career. He was a great Trojan though, no doubt. Pete knew he lacked instincts though, he kept him in center field to mask his football IQ deficiencies and had him make plays. It’s also why he knew he should have stayed for his senior year and also didn’t draft him. Sucks for him, really, but I’m rooting for him.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He also does nothing but make big hits

He’s all highlight, no substanance

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

if I may I think you're exactly right

What happened to Kenny Tate should’ve happened to Mays. Mays played OLB in high school and played it well. That’s how he scored his full ride. He went to safety because USC was so loaded at LB.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Dec 19, 2011 6:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm rooting for Mays too.

He is a Seattle kid afterall.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Dec 19, 2011 6:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That's the thing

I’d still take Ray Lewis at his prime over Willis, because of Ray’s instincts and intangibles. He won a SB with Trent Dilfer (id rather have Alex Smith personally). I’ll take Troy’s body and instincts over McDonald’s body and lesser instincts

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yep, that's why Willis is the now

but Lewis is a future HOFer. Though, to be fair, Willis does have HOF potential, but he can’t replace the intangibles.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

He's light years beyond anyone in history with his talent

And he has most of the Ray’s instincts, but not all of the instincts and fire that made Ray the best MLB of all time. He’s the father of the modern MLB, even Patrick Willis will tell you that.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Lewis is the type of player that

ANY linebacker will tell you he’s the father of this generations MLB spot. He is James Laurinaitis and Patrick Willis combined.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Dec 19, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Times 5

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yea he'll get rid of spags and devaney--thank God

but keep josh and his 12 points a game average…….i think he has a thing for josh

by jswirb on Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

It's called track record

He has a track record of having a great offense if he has talent (which he doesn’t have here). Still, Josh needs to go. He’s too big of a prick.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Over his tenure he led the league in those bad plays

He’s not a good coach. He just had AD, 4, and Rice (who was healthy with a stud qb). That gets you points no matter what. Favre improvised on a lot of plays during that season.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 4:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Devaney definitely has to go...

Between him and Spagnuolo, this squad has gone from one of the youngest, to one of the oldest in the space of a few months.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

devaney better be the first to go

I don’t want anyone who had anything to do with any personnel decisions to survive the explosion.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Dec 19, 2011 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You mean before he risked the long term health of Sam's ankle?

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I mean

immediately after losing to either Seattle or San Francisco. Losing to your blood rivals is always inexcusable.

by Ski Dawg on Dec 20, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

-1000

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 19, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

My problem with Spags & Devaney, not coming back for another year, is they made the Rams Old. Young guys were shipped out, so its hard to argue about development. Man you let them run things another year, and that mind set is scary. Now having said that I liked Spags, just not his vision of the Rams.

by snob on Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM CST reply actions  

McDaniels should stay... please consider this.

Rams brothers, I am as frustrated as you are with seeing the defense play competitively but being killed by the lack of production by the offense; however, we should keep McDaniels. I know that we all want a fresh start but there is a big difference between Spags and McDaniels. Spags had no head coaching experience whereas McDaniels is a proven offensive coordinator.

Do you guys remember how sick and tired we were from the West Coast offense last year? I do not want to go back to that. Sam can perfectly fit the mold of the complex offense that McDaniels wants to implement. Sam needs to be healthy, a full off season to learn the playoff AND talent around him. Going back to the WCO is just a way of patching a wound but it doesn’t solve the problem of this team which is the lack of talent on offense.

We need to fix the OL so our WRs can run their routes and Sam has time to throw, this will also open up the running game. We need to resign Lloyd ASAP and get a #1 WR on his side. The combo Amendola, Pettis, Salas can yield benefits (we don’t need all of them though).

As I mentioned on a different post and using a basketball comparison, I wouldn’t get rid of Phil Jackson (a proven head coach) just because the team is losing, perhaps the franchise needs to provide him with talent so he can execute his plans.

Again, going back to a vanilla offense so we don’t get embarrassed every week doesn’t solve the problem. If we want to be competitive and gain some respect, we need to have a good draft and acquire proven players via FA. I don’t think McDaniels or Bradford were given the right tools to have a chance to be successful this year. Go Rams!

by abiRam on Dec 19, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

it wasnt the west coast

It was shurmer….the west coast is actually really explosive, ask the greenbay packers and the brett favre Minnesota Vikings

WE SUCK. THAT IS ALL.

by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Dec 19, 2011 5:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You may be right...

… I was going to say that watching the WCO put by the Browns is boring but of course, Shurmur is behind that one as well…

I still think that we should give McDaniels another year. He hasn’t had a chance to prove anything given the short pre-season, the injuries, and the lack of talent…

by abiRam on Dec 19, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

given what I've seen our of our offense this year, I've come to appreciate Shurmur

He kept the pressure off Sam and had us scoring 20 a game purely with Amendola and SJax. He also made our O-Line look a lot better than they were.

by TheBirds on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Improved

Started the season, with the same nucleus of players, and sold us on all the upgrades.
Rams= total failure
49ers= total turn around
Seahawks= improved as the season progressed
Cards= improved as the season progressed

So we have 3 teams whose fans can be looking to the future, and one team looking for a miracle.

by snob on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

Funny thing is, only a few weeks ago Seattle and Arizona were looking as pitiful as us

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Well durr...

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

ALL I WANT TO KNOW

NEXT YEAR AS TRAINING CAMP BEGINS

WILL ALL YOU GUYS GIVE ME THE RESPECT OF MY OPINIONS

BEING THAT I WAS DAMN NEAR DEAD ON THIS YEAR

I SAID 0-7 PRETTY CLOSE

I SAID SPAGS BIG ISSUE WOULD BE TO KEEP MORALE UP WHEN WE ALL KNEW WE WERE DEAD OUTTA THE BOX—-HE DIDNT

NEXT YEAR A LITTLE RESPECT YA ALL

by jswirb on Dec 19, 2011 5:21 PM CST reply actions  

You said stupid stuff about TO and Randy Moss (the non playing guys)

You don’t earn our respect cause you make yourself sound so indignant

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not being mean dude, just telling you you sound so ridiculous with the CAPS (THAT YOU PROMISED TO STOP)

You have to earn some respect by not just saying “we will suck” have reasons

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

TO AND RANDY ARE AT LEAST PROFESSIONAL WHEN IT COMES TO GOING ONTHE

FIELD——————THEY COULD HAVE PLAYED CIRCLES AROUND THIS TALENT WITH ONE EYE CLOSED

KING YOUR SMARTER THAN THAT—-YOU’VE SEEN THE GAMES….BUT IN ALL DEFENSE SAMS BEEN SO INEPT HE PROBABLY COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE BALL TO THEN ANYWAY

BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN A FEW MORE FANS IN THE STANDS AT LEAST LOOKING FOR THEIR AUTOGRAPHS …WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN THIS

by jswirb on Dec 19, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Randy is professional?

Mr. “I’m gonna play when I wanna play?” I love him, he’s my single favorite player to watch all time, but he is a poison

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's a poison, you can't deny

He was cut by the Vikes cause he was poisoning Harvin. He’s a beloved guy among players who would impression young players that you should ignore your coaches and play when you feel like it.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If he felt like playing

That’s the problem, you can throw it at him and if he doesn’t feel like trying, you’re f*cked

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

At this point, anyones defending the current coach regime has to have rocks in their heads.

The coaching carousel is just that. Spags & company had 3 years to show some progress, any sort of progress that was better than his predessor. No one can say this team is any better off than the one Linehan left. All we, the fan have for the last 3 years are draft busts, a bunch of lost games, poor game/clock management, and a coach that consistently fails to motivate is group before and during games. Now I’m not a fan of the Mike Singletary coaching philosophy, but at the same time this isn’t a game of T-ball either. When a team comes out after halftime flatter than they did prior to it that tells me the coaches aren’t doing their jobs. I hate seeing yet another coach fired by the Rams followed by the hiring of another ‘in over his head coach’, so lets break the cycle this time Kroenke. Get someone who’s ‘been there’ and ‘done that’… coaching thingy before (Fisher, Cohwer, etc). Lets let some other team play the odds with a rookie coach.

by Da Rams! on Dec 19, 2011 5:23 PM CST reply actions  

no better off than we were with linehan?

Your being a bit harsh aren’t you under spags we now have a pro bowl DE a pro bowl MLB a franchise quarterback two LEGIT safeties and a defense that isnt fucking embarassing god you people who want spags fired really dont understand what the man has done.

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares? How many wins do we have?

Thats all that matters. Are the Rams any better off??? Thats my original question?

by Da Rams! on Dec 19, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

uhh yes?

if you cant see that then you must not have been a rams fan for very long

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Hibachi, we weren't playing that well before the injuries further cursed our season...

And besides – I’d happily give Spagnuolo some support IF there were signs of progress, or fight in the team every week, regardless of who’s out due to injury. But you cannot tell me that this team are fighting for a win like the Colts, or the Chiefs, or even the rest of the teams in our division…

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

here goes that bullshit again

does someone actually have an account of a player on the st louis rams not playing with effort? Because all i see is our defense balling every week regardless of how many yards people put up on us. In EVERY rams game this year our defense has stayed in attack mode our linebackers fill gaps hard our safeties are making tackles in the backfield and our corners, as bad as they are try their best to cover these corners so who is it that i magically dont see every week who is giving no effort?

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

It takes more than playing effort by players.

It takes a coach to kick em in the ass when they need it. Good clock management, knowing when to take a gamble when the games on the line. Knowing how to get the team motivated coming out of halftime like they were prior to the game starting. Spags is not the answer. This team will never be better than 7-9 with him.

by Da Rams! on Dec 19, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

It ain't bullshit son - I'm expressing what I see, just like you're expressing what you see

If you believe this team was playing “all out”, even before the injuries, then why the fuck were we being blown out in practically every game? Or is everything down to McDaniels? You probably praise Spagnuolo for the D, and yet I bet you’re one of those guys who blames all our woes on offense on McD…

"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ

by JoolzMF on Dec 19, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

wrong

i actually want mcdaniels to stay…
the reason we get blown out is because we honestly are not as talented as we think, especially on offense it has nothing to do with effort

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW... that was 4 players out of what... 22 starters???

Not to mention the 53-man roster. If this were the NBA you’d be okay with 4, but it ain’t. 4 starters don’t cut it after 3 years of coach and GM work. San Fran turned it around in 1 year with the same personnel, so don’t give me that BS about the team not having any talent. Laurent Robinson is playing his ass off in Dallas. Why didn’t they get that effor out of him here???

by Da Rams! on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

because

dallas’ oline can pass block, he’s not the number one reciever, he’s not playing with a rookie? And heres a better question does spags coach recievers??

by Hibachi40 on Dec 19, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Better situations

breed success. Not to even mention the guy is healthy after spending last season still recovering from a broken leg

by Bralidore on Dec 19, 2011 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ditto for Devaney...

The current player personnel are his doing. Time to get the broom and vacuum out and C-L-E-A-N HOUSE!!!

by Da Rams! on Dec 19, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

everyone has rocks in their heads

they are how our brain tells our bodies orientation

by TheBirds on Dec 19, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

o yes we all bought in to that 4 pillar zen bullshit

thats when i knew spags was not interested in winning soon

by jswirb on Dec 19, 2011 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

some of us never bought into that bullshit

Those of us who were here when that was conceived know that.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Dec 19, 2011 6:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah..

who wants players who arent assholes..

thats totally what is killing us right now..stfu

by Bralidore on Dec 19, 2011 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's the facts Spags enthusiasts:

He’s gone, you lost that one. Every report says he’s gone, none says he’s staying

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Any chance we keep Spags as our DC?

As for the HC gig, I was sold when I read that article on Chudzinski.

by Starkey on Dec 19, 2011 5:45 PM CST reply actions  

He won't be kept around

That creates a schism in the locker-room. Some guys are Spags guys, some are the new coaches. Bad idea.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah. Good point.

I didn’t think about that.

by Starkey on Dec 19, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what happened with the Vikes sorta

Some were Tavaris’ guys and thought it was a low blow to take away his job after he took them to the playoffs and never forgave Chilly. Others realized Favre was better and understood that AD (not T Jack) had carried that team to the playoffs.

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 5:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Undecided

On one hand Spags hasn’t be good but on another hand the players respect him and with all the shit that could go wrong has, no other coach could have done any better with the roster and injuries that Spags had to deal with, could he have some better, yes, but could anybody have done much better, no..

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Dec 19, 2011 6:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Belichik, McCarthy, Tomlin, either Harbaugh

All would have at least 4-5 wins

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It's better than this piss poor performance

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea 4-12

Is still worse than our last years record, which is bad..

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Dec 19, 2011 6:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

But at least then I can respect the fact that injuries are the excuse

Ite not an excuse for this

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 7:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Do you KNOW that?

Or do you THINK that?

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

There's a reason they are the top 5 coaches

Cause they are THE BEST FUCKING CIACHES IN THE NFL. Spags is a piece PF shit who can’t do anything but put his hands on his head and draft bad players

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Amen

Do we have to get Tebow over here to refresh your god damn mind that he makes stupid calls and just plain and simple……SUCKS

WE SUCK. THAT IS ALL.

by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Dec 19, 2011 6:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Cause if you want to win you need a top head coach

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Saying: "well hes an ok coach so we will keep him around"

Is how you end up with Jack Del Rio in charge 4 yrs after he should be. You either are a SB caliber coach, or you arent

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That's it

It’s not that Spags is an ok coach with a lot of injuries, it’s that he’s an awful coach

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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 19, 2011 6:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You make shit up dude.

Your arguements get dumber and dumber the further down this post I get.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 20, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Alex Song - Krunk as Fuck!

by Midasknight on Dec 20, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay trade Bradford, Jackson, and Lloyd.

They deserve much better than the St Louis black hole of voodo. Where wide recievers and Corner Backs go to get rehab for bad knees. It’s going to take 3-5 years for this team to turn around if ever.

by OakCityRam on Dec 19, 2011 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

Spags

may not be god’s gift to coaching. What makes a coach a SB caliber coach? Again no f’ing coach in this league could win with this roster. I have NEVER seen a coach win with lack of talent. There is a reason teams in the Sb typically have a shit ton of guys in the probowl. They have talent. Bring in who you’d like I just want to knwo what the excuse will be for the next guy who falls on his face? How many HC in the league have SB titles? How many of those guys inherited good teams like Tomlin or McCarthy. Other than Belichek who has brought a team from ground level to winning an SB? Be real as this team sits right now no coach could get much more out of it. PERIOD

by RWRAMS28 on Dec 19, 2011 9:48 PM CST reply actions  

And Spags

Plays a large role in leaving the Rams devoid of talent.

The Rams were better in 2010. But over the off-season they regressed. They didn’t add anyone of value to the team except Quinn, who they are finally letting play. He basically twiddled his thumbs for half a year.

by DiscoJer on Dec 19, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

O yeah

there was so much talent before he got here. The GM is largely responsible for talent. Everyone says you can’t blame injuries. Well I say you can. We are the only team in the NFL that has not had at least one olineman start at the same position all year. The only OL to start evey game is Dahl and he has split time between G and T. There is not a more important group than the OL. I think now we all know maybe Danny was a more important to this team than saying we drafted his replacement. and 7 DBs come on now. Keep in mind we were picked to win the west with the roster we started with. Roll back the start of the season and we would be projected to finish exactly where we will with this type of roster. Sure I agree the 2010 were better but they were also largely healthy!

by RWRAMS28 on Dec 20, 2011 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Spags!!! Spags has No BALLS!!!!!

Spags may friends! Spags has no BALLS!!!! 4th n one agin..agin n he dose not i repete dose not go for it in the fourth quarter on the 45 down a td are you joking i woulda fired him right their in then last week n this week if i was stan i woulda ran onto the field fired him n went for it with sj39 might have won yesterdays game

We might be down now but when we get back up u better move out are way are ul get RAMED!!!

by Ramzman18 on Dec 19, 2011 10:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Rumors

I am sick of the rumors.Why don’t we wait until the season is over and stop with the speculation.This is so ridiculous!!!!

by CGSuddeath on Dec 19, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions  

I voted No because...

I know other teams have suffered injuries and had shortened offseasons and new systems and all that jazz but I’d like to see what Spags and McD can do with a fully fit roster, another draft and a full offseason to prepare.

On offense I the team would benefit from some continuity. And Sam will have a chance to work with McD on the playbook. I believe the Rams have to hire a QB coach though. Not only for Sam’s benefit, but also to allow McD the time he needs to work with the rest of the offense

On defense, i like the pressure being generated up front and the secondary have played pretty well considering. Mikell, Stweart and Gordy have been a pleasant surprise and if Bartell and Fletcher come back fit and well then the secondary could be very good. The run defense is where work is needed. I know Spag’s system doesn’t place great value on OLB but the Rams need to find someone who can play contain stop the run getting to the outside

I could be horribly wrong and it all blow up in my face but all in all i say give Spags and McD one more year to turn it around

by IrishRamsFan on Dec 20, 2011 2:23 AM CST reply actions  

I voted yes

I’ve been calling for his dismissal since Week 5. But….if the Rams fire Devaney first, I will welcome Spagnuolo back with open arms.

by Ferragamo on Dec 20, 2011 6:05 AM CST reply actions  

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