Josh McDaniels, Steve Spagnuolo & Another Prime Time Flop For The Rams
by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 13, 2011 10:30 AM CST
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PrintOnce again the spotlight shone brightly on the St. Louis Rams. Near death and crawling toward the end of the season, Steve Spagnuolo's team needed to summon whatever will they had left. Steve Spagnuolo entered last night's game 0-2 in prime time appearances as head coach, his most famous being last year's Week 17 flop. Beset with injuries and the season already lost, all Spagnuolo had to do was not look like a schmuck for his third prime time appearance.
Instead, we saw this happening on the sidelines.
Obviously the Rams are unraveling. McDaniels' display of desperation on the sidelines isn't really notable in and of itself. More telling was his reluctance to use Steven Jackson, especially at the goal line. Before the Rams finally scored in the fourth quarter, the offensive coordinator ran five futile plays from the one-yard line. A Cadillac Williams run, a gimpy ankled quarterback sneak and three miserable looking passes from Sam Bradford and the sorry bunch of receivers the front office tried to bluff us all with back in August.
Josh McDaniels has been the biggest free agent bust of all, but at least he only cost $2 million per season, the rehabilitation tour discount. Like past Bill Belichick disciples, his undoing can best be blamed on his unflappable arrogance.
McDaniels reports to Steve Spagnuolo, the head coach. Spagnuolo, despite three years as a head coach and umpteen more studying offenses from the other side of the ball, still lacks the basic knowledge of how an offense works. Need more proof, look no further than Spagnuolo's explanation of that series, from Mike Sando's report at at ESPN.
The one thing there you are dealing with a little bit is the clock. If you run it and don't get in, you know you are going to chew some time. A little bit of that came into play and then when we couldn't get it in, we said, 'OK,' and then we got in.
Spagnuolo talking clock management. It sounds like Michael "Brownie" Brown explaining the nuances of disaster relief. McDaniels may have made the call not to bother with Steven Jackson until five plays and a couple flags of charity later, but the head coach failed to intervene in the insanity.
For all the assessment of McDaniels' shortcomings or whether or not Spagnuolo is head coaching material, the axiom of leadership makes the head coach accountable for the events taking place on the field. Accountability runs upward. Last night, Steve Spagnuolo captained a sinking ship deeper into the storm. He's had free range to put his stamp on things at Rams Park, and these are the results he has to show for it.
If the Rams make no changes to the leadership after this season, then the buck rests firmly with owner Stan Kroenke.
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Great line!
Spagnuolo talking clock management. It sounds like Michael “Brownie” Brown explaining the nuances of disaster relief.
This is ridiculous
How can we slate Spags for not running SJax when Caddy got a carry on the goaline?
You give it to SJax first over anyone else!
I think you’re trying to blame the wrong person here.
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also a QB sneak with Bradford is technically a run too
you cannot blast Spags for McDaniels’ idiocy. That is two runs with two players not named Steven Jackson BEFORE the passes and the eventual handoff to the man.
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That's ignorant to say though.
He is RESPONSIBLE, but is he the reason the Rams did not use SJax?
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Yes he is
Because he is in charge of the team. He should of saw the ignorance of not having Jackson out there and then put him out there
I just don't believe a HC should have to micromanage like that.
You can’t blame him for not being a micromanager either. That isn’t common procedure for HCs surely?
Likewise, it’s funny how before the season everyone said that McD should be given FREE REIGN over the offense and Spags should stay well out… lol
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I agree there
a whole load of questions over what would happen if he did intervene like that, undermining the OC bla bla bla
but in this instance you gotta do it.
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This gets better every day lol
Couple years ago any one in this room talking badly about B.Devaney or Spags was in danger of getting banned from TST . I just hope you learned your lesson well and you wont ever again trust blindly in any FO or Coach that this team might hire,always Question any thing and every thing they do and hold them accountable from day one ,Treat your FO like they are politicians and never believe what they say only what they do ,Oh and listen to RamChop when he talks he was one of the only Ram fans that actually saw this comming most of you were just day dreaming and refuse to see the truth ,glad to see most every one woke up better late then never
How ironic
I for one will listen to you and consider myself more awakened, enlightened, edumacated and omnipotent for doing so.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
RamChop might be right at times
but he was blatantly disrespectful and attacked people instead of arguments. TST is better since he is going.
wow thank you for proving my point hahaha you just insulted him for no reason
and if i remember correctly you are one of the ones that mostly attacked him and try to get him banned lmfao
but it was true?
I didn’t attack him, I’d question him, and then he’d attack me. Which is what he did with everyone when he wasn’t just overtly attacking them from the onset.
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actually it kinda is
the reason he was banned was he started shit with 3k and coach and called them some of the worst names in the book daring us to ban him.
I remember that thread, and it was all over before I knew it happened
I think Chop got antagonized by another member whom shall remain nameless, at least from me. I never thought Chop should’ve been so antagonistic himself, but that member was out of line IMO. That member has since been rare around here and I’m not heart broken. He couldn’t hold Chops jockstrap but succeeded in riling Chop up on that particular day to the point of no return. If that member does show up I will unmercilessly return the favor.
I thought Chop was actually EDPJR, whom I had had several very enlighteneing convos with. Ed and I didn’t agree on everything but when he first got here he and I hit it off because he didn’t mind my sometimes ballistic fits of frustration resulting from our shitty little team here. He was an old fan from even earlier than me, and understood. Chop was rumored to be Ed and I just assumed it to be true because of the sources of those rumors.
Ed posted a GBCW post and wasn’t heard from again for a year, when Merlin Olson died but Chop joined up and the rest is history. Any hoo I don’t think Chop had a beef with 3K, as much as he just had a bad day, or 2 as it were.
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One of these days we should have a behind the scenes episode
That particular fiasco I could devote an entire hour to.
i thought it was fascinating
i remember researching the whole Ed/Chop thing and i’m like 95% certain they were one and the same.
A lot of people forget that despite Chop’s advanced age, his maturity was that of a 5 year olds. He was the only person I’ve ever seen on a blog to actually call someone to ‘fisticuffs’ and mentioned his blackbelt, beerbelly but defined arms and curly hair… and the fact he resides in a bar with mad bikers or some shit.
He also would converse with himself between his identities… so much to talk about with regards to psycho analysis and all that crap lol
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I just remember when you had a fanpost and RamChop said something
I disagreed, and then you, me, him, and I think RG31 got into a huge fight that was like 600 comments.
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Us 3 vs him
We all know who has ended up winning that one
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 13, 2011 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol i spose
That Rocket33 guy or something, had a basketball pic was pretty good at riling chop up and was who he directed the ‘meet me at the bar at noon’ thing at lol
Thing is, is essentially RamChop was a troll. I learnt too late to not feed it.
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I only asked for intervention from the Mods
3k made a post explaining it all.
I never asked for Chop to be banned, I asked for him to not be such a moron and I asked for the mods to make apparent that they see the hateful things Chop was saying to other members unprovoked.
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and to tell you all the truth...
between both those 2, dafranchize, and ramchop, they actually had some great things/points to say most of the time. i actually liked reading there stuff, BUT! the one thing i couldnt satnd, was when when they felt “threatened” in some way, they went on a verbal rampage, and didnt give a ratrs ass what came out of there mouths. derogatory, and just pure hatred. that i dont tolerate. thus them getting banned, and rightfully so.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
agree completely
I actually found DaFranchiZe hilarious though. especially when those Eagle fools tried trolling our blog, dude embarrassed them lol
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that i can give him lol!
he defended us bigtime there.
by Mark Jaramillo on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
lol tell yourself that bruh
There’s more than enough evidence to prove to you that was all he did while on TST.
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lol you're being ridiculous thinking you can say that and not look like a fool
I actually stood up for Chop when I first came on TST, back when he was edjpr.
You might want to get a clue before you say this sort of stuff.
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The quick browns fox jumped over the lazy dog
It’s easier without the wrist weights, hey!
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You think he's gone because he disagreed
that’s your problem. His problem was he thought he was the only one who knew anything.
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First time i herd B.Devaney speak i said
He talks just like a politician and i dont believe a word he says and coachconners called me a punk hahaha
No I don't
that’s why having guys like Pekka is good, but if Pekka starting calling people blatantly insulting names then there would be a problem.
This site is much better without him
I’ll admit I was an attacker like him at times, but his venom is what spread it. If he wanted to have a different opinion, that was fine. But fighting with an admin and using the language he did, just because they disagreed? Not ok.
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 13, 2011 11:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
im not saying RamChop did not say or act wrong at times but he sure did say some things that were right on spot
and no one ever agree with him lol well almost no one
Problem with his arguments is even if he has been proven right on some
He was wrong on others, and he would cling to his right calls and hold us to our wrong ones. He backed up all his arguments with nothing but venom, and I for one couldn’t respect that kind of opinion/argument
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 13, 2011 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pekka does call names. Read his posts.
Unlike RamChop, though, Pekka is not taken seriously because he spouts such drivel. Therefore his name calling is forgiven.
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by Midasknight on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
You sound like a 6th grade school girl tattling on the boys.
I’m not calling you that, I’m just saying you’re acting like one.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 13, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Pekka is the guy I would peg losing it
Sorry man, but you seem like you could go RamChop on us at any moment
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by King Sam Rules! on Dec 13, 2011 1:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not dumb enough to take this stuff personal bro.
I ain’t goin’ postal any time soon. I just take satisfaction knowing I’m right.
:)
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 13, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Which I don't do.
Maybe once or twice, but I try not to.
I’m just a truth-sayer. A savant if you will….who has an opinion about stuff. :)
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
One things for sure, we'll see what kind of owner we have
And at least that 2 mil doesn’t count against the cap.
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$2 mil for a guy who calls a run play on 3rd and 21? lol
I’m glad he doesn’t figure against the Cap. That would be insult to injury
by Douglas M on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Jeff Fisher
"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ
by JoolzMF on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
DREAM SCENARIO
Vermeil as supervising chief of footballing matters
Spagnuolo HC
McDaniels OC (clean house at positional coach level)
Flajole DC
Hire about 30 people to be medics and injury healers. Maybe get Tebow on the payroll to pray for everyone’s good health.
McDaniels would HAVE to learn how to be a good OC though.
If not, fire him and get Norv Turner as OC.
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THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME!!!!!!!
a qb coach would be the shaman of this offense lol
What I don’t understand is why Tai Chi and inner strengthening martial arts aren’t compulsory for the offensive and defensive lines at least, as well as everyone else.
Inner strength and all that shit could be invaluable in the preservation of our players’ health and us as fans’ subsequent mental health lol
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Fisher is ok but not my first choice for Sam, Jeff will run us to death lol hes a run run guy
and how ta hell you come up with Sorano ,i dont like Haley ether
i like the run first coaches
its better then trying to throw deep when u know we dont have the right guys
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by G unit Rams on Dec 13, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
I have a legit question to the guys wanting Spagnuolo to stay - what has he done this season to make you think he deserves to stay as HC?
"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ
by JoolzMF on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 AM CST via mobile reply actions
He has a defensive core in place that is incredibly promising, despite being completely decimated by injuries.
The players, specifically on defense, play hard for him and believe in him.
He was the reason we beat and contained that Saints offense. It was Spags’ scheme. That sort of genius is not commonplace in the league. He’s in a class of defensive mind alongside Ryan and LeBeau.
I also personally appreciate his belief in his own system and his players, and how genuine that feels. his professionalism dealing with this disaster of a season has been admirable, but something I didn’t want to see.
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All of those things make a good DC
What has he done to make you think he deserves HC?
The fact there is no one better out there lol
Like, I agree, his HC resume has been not very good, but its better than that of others and at least with Spags we will have good defense.
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No one better?
There are at least half a dozen good coaches out there, 4 or 5 of them already proven HCs.
We're 2-11. His belief isn't working. How much longer should this team and it's fans suffer before you say, "Enough"..?
Surely you’re not saying that one good win against the Saints merits him staying as our HC? And why praise him for his defensive duties on this team, and yet put the blame of the offense all on McDaniels?
The guy is a DC. We’ll lose him to another team sometime soon when we have a good ol’ clearout, but that’s the way it is. Just because he knows defense, doesn’t mean he should stay as our HC.
"Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet - I'm gonna break your face..." The Champ
by JoolzMF on Dec 13, 2011 1:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
As I've stated
I feel that what he’s done with our defense has been enough, and that he still has the team wanting to win for him.
You don’t dismantle the defense we’ve built which frankly next year, if healthy could be monstrous after development because the OC is incompetent. In addition to this, the only way I’d fire this ‘glorified DC’ we have in Spags is if someone has a more impressive resume for his role. i don’t see one.
I see has beens and overrated Co-Ordinators. I’d rather try our luck at a full off season and season of continuity and should that fail then clean house.
Basically, I’m supporting Spags because he’s the best of a bad bunch and in this instance I’d rather stick with the devil we know.
We know from Spags we’ll get bad clock management, clapping, a calm demeanour post defeat, solid defense and our team will always show up and TRY hard (minimum on defense, sometimes on offense)
Anyone else we hire we’ll have to maybe deal with awful defense while our offense improves… Give spags one last chance to pull it together, eliminate excuses because he’ll have had time, and should he fail boom he’s gone.
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He's ... not ... a ... head ... coach.
Period.
It is the Peter Principle.
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by Midasknight on Dec 13, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
i want Gruden my first choice or B.Cowher if not then J.Fisher my three first after that im not sure
but please bring in D.Vermeil as GM or President of the team
I gotta agree with that
Vermiel was a great motivator who surrounded himself with very highly knowledgeable subordinates.
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just look and compare
D.V. got J.Hanafin the best OL Coach for the OL. he got B.Carson out of retirement to help the defense, he got the best Special teams coach in the business he got the best OC in the game Mad Mike lol and made sure they all did there job well , how can you go wrong with that and Dick Vermeil study all the super bowl winning teams and knew how important certain stats were ,he saw that every winning super bowl team had average of 134 yards per game rushing the ball and so we made the deal for Marshall , and Dick loves this team we need this mans help again
thats what a good HC does.
Something Spags hasn’t really done with the McD hire, likewise with positional coaches.
Tomlin is another example of that.
I think a clean house at positional coach level on offense could rejuvenate this team.
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you do know 'doushbag' is spelled douchebag
and isn’t a firable offense?
I’d say mcDaniels is king douchebag and more of one than Spags. you’re challenging McD for that title though.
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see thats how you would start with ramchop too you like to draw fist blood but only a drop so no one can see it
sneaky very sneaky but i dont take bate so easy like the chopper use too you have to do better then that
lol you called me a douchebag homie
and you’re directly insulting my intelligence. I, unlike others (possibly) will not take beef from anyone, regardless of the amount of times I agree with or disagree with that person.
You made it personal, I’m defending myself.
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Would that be a douchespag?
I think I’ll drink a Chai tea, eat some mushrooms and contemplate that for about 20 minutes
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LOL woops my BAD!
apologies for that!
Although you did say I don’t know anything about ‘soccer’ and football, which I take exception to, but apologies… got mixed up there.
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are you that greek division 6 ex gm? lol
because it was pretty apparent what happened in that discussion.
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lol you're remembering incorrectly
what was apparent was that i did not know that designed set pieces were inspired by basketball.
In addition to that, what was apparent is that you were full of BS and your assertion that your gm history on no league ‘soccer’ in greece does not qualify you to talk about NFL roster management with any experience.
I generally chatted football with I believe douchiedude, not you.
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my experience in american football is a lot deeper my soccer
and if for the past three years we drafted the players i wanted we would not be in this mess we are in today so please dont tell me about roster management and our current FO it was a night mare from the day Devaney took over
lol
well if Billy D gets fired you can apply, you will have a glowing resume I’m sure.
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every one in here defended our new FO and Coach when i was saying they suck
im very happy to see that every one woke up well almost every one ,we wasted three years ill be dammed if we waste another minute on Devaney and every one he hired , Be gone
Gruden heavily implied last night that he would get rid of Sam and draft RG3.
I don’t think that would be working with Sam well.
I forget the exact quote
But to paraphrase it went like “If I was coming in to manage this Rams team I would heavily evaluate Sam and take a hard look at that RG3 guy with the second pick. Man that guy can really ball I tell ya!”
lol
and people genuinely think Gruden is head coach material?
For an offensive guru and someone so QB centric… I was never failed to be unimpressed by Tampa’s QBs…
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I'm a little dubious of his Super Bowl win.
From what I can tell, he won the Super Bowl with a team he didn’t put together, and then ran the team into the ground over the next few years. I just don’t think he’s qualified to rebuild the franchise.
yup
he inherited Dungy’s defense and team, then won the superbowl because he knew every play the Raiders were calling.
he then proceeded to be worse than run the Bucs into the ground… but keep them at a constant state of unwavering mediocrity that was based on average offense, average defense and average special teams every week.
his drafts sucked, he never had a good qb and the roster was generally old as shit until Morris replaced him, gave them a franchise QB and a much needed youth injection/overdose.
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He beat the SuperBowl team he built with a team he didn't build.
He still built one though.
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he didn't build anything
he used effectively yes, but he was just a coach on superbowl winning team, not THE coach that brought it all together.
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a little hungova....
god damnit, rams.
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
word
i’ll be near you today, flying to portland at 6 tonight
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
Right on brother wave when you approach PDX from the west.
You’ll be right over my house.
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will do!
wish i ran into ya while down here though! maybe next year!
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
yeah I was actually in Seattle Saturday and again on Monday but only for about 10 hours at a time.
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i ended-up catching an early flight, cause it had a couple seats open and spent all of sunday here
but i ended-up being awake for 30+ hours; so….tired….
And yesterday I just tailgaited all day between the hawks’ nest and the hotel right there near the stadium.
Oh, to add to my accomplishments, I went to piss at the hawks’ nest, I got the entire bar to boo so loud, and I was encouraging them
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
hey man I wore my colors proudly all over the yards at Argo and Fife including the break rooms
That’s what it’s all about man. Nothing but good-natured ribbing from the brothers though.
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oh yeah I was jawing all night
except as a rams fan, it’s not “talking shit” it’s more like “bonding”.
Every time I decided to respond to a guy that said “fuck the rams!” the conversation would end with him saying “that’s awesome man! I hope you have a good time at the game, good luck!”
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
funny how we ram fans get good at that
I once saw a raider fan get heckled right out of a bar because he was being soooooo serious. It was funny because the guy doing the heckling was a really little guy.
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got the pictures ready, now I just need to start writing about the game
…where the hell to start? the horror!!
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
yeah i sent you an email
i don’t know what it is, i’ll just get it and email you when i’m there tonight
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
It wasn't the post office's fault either. My screw up entirely
I send out quite a few boxes and overnights each week. I found yours and two books I was sending to authors for the autographs in the backseat of my vehicle. I found out when I went to look up the tracking number and only found the deliver to here… Oops!
haha it's all good doug
I had to wear my coat under the jersey anyway, it was freakin cold last night; not the alaska dry cold either; it was the humid, spine shivering cold
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
Yes it was
I hope those football players froze their asses off. I know I did and I didn’t get to watch the game.
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and those cheerleaders
I hope they froze their asses off too. Get any good pics in that way Serg?
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haha
nope, their stupid elf outfits made me not want to look
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
they were far away too :(
well gotta pack up and leave the hotel. later!!
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In regards to the little animation
It looks like Sam called the wrong play and mcdaniels just yelled at him it wasn’t even anything serious. I for one am glad somebody is showing frustration for this offense Sam is getting babied too much as it is
by Hibachi40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the sanity.
A month ago, folks were complaining that the coaches don’t show any emotion. Now, they show too much emotion. They can’t win. And I’ve seen McDaniels chew a player up, that was nothing.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
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"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 13, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
+1
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
by G unit Rams on Dec 13, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly what I'm saying
The main reason everyone want spags gone, which I think would be a big mistake so shoot me, is because he showed no emotion and was always clapping. Now I’m hearing mcdaniels was yelling at Bradford and Bradford doesn’t like mcdaniels because of that little ass altercation? Come on guys this is professional football
by Hibachi40 on Dec 13, 2011 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
exactly
and they’re awful reasons to want to get rid of a coach.
I hate this thing about Spags’ clapping. Who seriously gives two shits? lol
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I want spags gone as head coach because he's incompetent as head coach, regardless of his style.
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i want him gone
because he picks favorites and his favs are usaully old and worse then the guys he gets rid of them for
Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle
I don't think that's why everyone wants spags gone
I’m sure not everyone wants spags gone.
and I don’t think Bradford doesn’t like McDaniels.
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I don't want Spags gone!
Just sayin’.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 13, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
goal line
If he runs it three times and kicks a field goal everyone bashes him for not throwing. If he runs, gets stuffed then throws it you say he should have used jackson more. Bottom line is the players couldnt execute the play. Lay off the coaches! Apply what spags has had to deal with this year to your job, or anyones job for that matter.
by jimmy5523 on Dec 13, 2011 11:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
this is also true
although a QB sneak and naked bootleg with a QB on one leg is pure idiocy and entirely on the coaches.
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Pretty much.
Difference between the Rams and the Patriots: Patriots knew how to execute what McDaniels was giving them.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-12-1 (Total Record: 10-15-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
patriots knew because they had an offseason to learn the playbook.
I started playing football when i was in jr high and had no clue what i was doing. Once i became familiar with the plays and what to do i was leaps and bounds better. Anyone who has played football knows how important the offseason is and knows that feeling of playing football and not having to think about what you are going to do next because u kno the play by heart. List things that went wrong this year- 1) Injuries!!!!!! 2) No offseason to learn very complicated system. 3) Devaney did make some moves that didnt pan out (however everyone was clamoring about how they were good moves at the time).
Everyone blames spags for the players under performing. That is stupid he doesnt choose what players he gets. He can choose which ones to cut and who needs to start but that is it. He can provide suggestions but it is ultimately up to the personel department. Only person who might deserve the ax would be Billy Devaney.
here's a preview, i'm in the away jersey; found some rams fan while tailgaiting
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Dec 13, 2011 11:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
i made my gf wear my throwback!
Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!
by sergey606 on Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, seriously? That’s the yelling everyone is whining about? Talk about searching for ghosts…
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-12-1 (Total Record: 10-15-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM CST reply actions
ya the yelling was pretty much nothing. It was a bad throw regardless of playcall.
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McD is not the problem its the players
I really hope nobody says DX deserves a spot on this team next season and neither does Gibson. We need players that go with the offense and a.line that can protect Sam, because without that no OC could do anything here, McD is getting a bad rap for this shitty team.
Ignorance is Bliss
by RG31 on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Hit him, Sam! Punch him in the face!
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
That's the dumbest thing he could have done.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-12-1 (Total Record: 10-15-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
The dumbest thing he could have down was a goalline sneak or bootleg
on a booted leg.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
by Joe Mazzi on Dec 13, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
woooohoooo
good one. We will run no boot legs on booted legs. I bury my heart on booted leg.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Fire the entire coaching staff!! And the GM...........Here comes Los Angeles......
It didn’t work! None of it did.
Spags should go back to being a DC,
and Josh needs to get his ASS out of here, and take the KC job!!
Play calling has been strange all season….AND…..
Designing plays where Bradford leads the league in getting sacked reaks of incompetence!
Besides Josh couldn’t punch his way out of a paper bag.
Even with all the injuries.
our execution this year regardless has been awful. eveything that could go wrong did go wrong. like jon gruden said last night, if he was going there (the rams) the first thing he would do is sit down with sam bradford and have a serious one on one and eye to eye talk with him. just curious.
We need to get Sam a QB coach and we need to tailor the offense to his strengths.
No doubt our execution has been pants though. I can’t forget Week 2 vs the Giants where McD called an excellent game outside of the redzone and our D played well, it was just crucial drops and bad execution that doomed us to the L :(
After that the injuries spiralled out of control and McD has done his best to destroy Sam…
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Like the song says:
Schoooooools out for summer!!!
This is the worst I've ever felt as a Rams fan.
Damn.
However,
Ride til I die Rams fan!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Clean house” and lets start kicking some ass again!
As the great vince lombardi once said.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON OUT THERE.
Holy Crap!!
I was hoping to see that Spags had been fired. Fire him and start conducting the search for the new head coach. And why haven’t the Rams locked up Brandon Lloyd for a few years. We need somebody that can catch Bradford’s errant throws.
Finally, someone with the balls to say the obvious.
Time to c-l-e-a-n house. Get rid of some of the guys wearing suits and headsets. This pathetic era has got to come to an end. We haven’t improve one bit of improvement since the first time Linehan took over. It almost seems like Shaw and Zyggy are still calling the shots. I don’t even think Linehan was this inept at coaching a game. Spags has the defense ready to play, but the offense has been the same for his entire tenure here. The offense makes the D look a lot worse than what it is. Anytime the defense plays most of the game you’re gonna lose. Can anyone honestly say that they can see Spags winning 10 games with this team if he were given one more chance? Theres enough data now to say otherwise. And shouldn’t they have learned by now not to let McDaniels have any say in the draft and also know to watch him around your franchise QB (see Denver McDaniels and Jay Cutler). Fire him, Devaney, and Spags.
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I just want the Rams to draft the best Wide Receiver in this Draft. Give Sam Bradford more weapons to throw to. We need receivers that can get open and demand a double coverage.
gruden-cowers-fischer -will go nowhere near this team
‘THATS THE FACT JACK’
I DON'T THINK HROENKE EVEN WATCHES THE GAMES OR CARES
WE ARE IN FOR THE SAME OLD SAME OLD
FOR MANY YEARS
AND PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG HAD THE RAMS AUTOMATICALLY SWEEPING
ALL THE GAMES IN THE WEST…….OMG
THE TEAM IS DESTINED TO BE BACK IN L A
anyone can see that
maybe bringing martz back is an option
because we certainly will get no proven winning coach
the greatest of greats saw all this coming and warned all
when everyone was hyped up over msw
i knew we were in trouble
we had a lucky sched . last year
and haphazardely signed mediocre players to fool the fans….to one year contracts
no effort was really made to bring top tier talent here ….don’t fool yourself
the result speaks for itself
we will be far behind the 49er’s for years …..again
from what i here manning could be there for 2 years
nice job ram fo….but i don’t think they really care
thet threw us a bone with bradford and thought it would silent the masses
i never bought it …and look at bradford …a mess
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