2011 NFL Draft Re-Do: Rams First-Round Pick Looks Good To Us
Talking about the 2012 NFL Draft in November leaves plenty of room for gray area. A re-draft of the first-round of the 2011 NFL Draft should be a little more cut and dried. Fans and pundits have now had half a season to see teams in action, gauging April's needs with November's realities should at least make for some interesting hindsight. Former NFL personnel guru turned analyst Gil Brandt rolled out a re-do of the first round of the 2011 NFL Draft yesterday. It offered some interesting takes on what should have been, including a head-scratcher for the St. Louis Rams.
Brandt re-does the Rams 14th overall pick of North Carolina defensive end Robert Quinn. And who does Brandt recommend as a hindsight pick? And what would we do with a re-do?
He gives the Rams another defensive end, Iowa's Adrian Clayborn. Here's his take:
Quinn had a good game last week in the win over the Saints, but hasn't done much else. Clayborn has seven starts and is a good pass rusher (three sacks) who gives effort on every play.
Long-time TSTers know that Clayborn was a guy many of us were high on prior to the draft. He got picked by Tampa Bay later in the first round. There's no doubt in my mind that Clayborn will be a good player in the NFL, but there's a flaw in Brandt's argument here.
First, Quinn has two sacks to Clayborn's three, so there isn't a huge difference in the stats. Second, Clayborn would not be starting in St. Louis. Like Quinn, he'd be playing in a rotation behind James Hall and Chris Long.
Finally, the Quinn pick was never about instant results. Quinn possessed oodles of raw talent as a pass rusher. So much talent, in fact, that many had him pegged as a top ten pick. He was never supposed to fall as far as he did in the draft, but concerns about his maturity and his rawness from not playing during UNC's 2010 season dropped him down the board. Another thing to consider is what Quinn brought to the Rams' defensive line. His speed should be the perfect complement to Chris Long's power on the other side for years.
If the Rams can continue playing like they did last week, Quinn could be in for a very solid second half as teams double up on Long and a more favorable situation on the score board allows the Rams to do more rushing with their front four.
As far as re-do goes for the first overall pick, there are a couple players I would consider...which isn't to suggest in any way that I am unhappy with the Quinn pick.
We still haven't seen what Nebraska cornerback Prince Amukamara can do in the NFL because of a training camp injury. He was among the top ten players on the Rams draft board. This being an exercise in hindsight, having a first-round cornberback on the roster right now would sure be nice. Put Jimmy Smith in the mix here too.
This will elicit some angry comments here and from the know-it-alls on Twitter, but I'd still put Mark Ingram in the mix. Steven Jackson was in full beast mode last week, but his absence earlier in the season really hurt the Rams offense. Cadillac Williams hasn't been as good as advertised, in part due to the fact that he's the kind of player who the offense makes better, not vice versa like Jackson. Having a running back of Ingram's caliber behind Jackson might have made a big difference, especially in that Eagles game when they lost him after two plays.
Colorado offensive tackle Nate Solder is another player I would consider in a re-do, especially now that we're already talking about the possibility of the Rams drafting an OT in 2012. Solder would have given the Rams some much needed depth at tackle, allowing them to make a decision about Jason Smith's future in 2012, which they'll have to do anyway.
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Clayborn's got a great skill set
but he doesn’t have the pure pass rush ceiling of Quinn. He’s a much more balanced DE that can anchor the run contain on his side without being useless in passing situations.
And Ingram? I see you bruh! Morning potshots!
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I liked Clayborn too ...
But when I saw that Quinn dropped to us at No. 14 overall, it was a no-brainer for me. I wouldn’t change the pick. We’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg of Quinn’s potential.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Nov 3, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Re do
Can I do a redo of the girlfriends I’ve picked over the years? Not in this lifetime. Seriously, mid season and there’s not much to talk about for us Ram’s fans. Redo last years pics, damn. No, Quinn will be a good pick for years to come.
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if another guy was banging on your girls cookie
You’d re-do your thought of
wanting a re-do. Does that help?
The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!
by DevsLaRams on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I am fine with Quinn
But I wouldn’t mind redoing the rest of the draft
After seeing Baldwin on Monday, I'd pick him.
No Sims-Walker pick-up. Hopefully we would still trade for Lloyd. Maybe Danny wouldn’t be hurt right now. I still think WR is what is holding this team back. I like Lloyd, Salas, Pettis, and Amendola. The jury is still out on Clayton.
Baldwin only has 6 catches on the year
But he is a very talented wideout, though I’m not sure we would’ve traded for Lloyd then, either. You just never know I suppose…
by RamBradford08 on Nov 3, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Baldwin has been injured. Personally I'd stick with Quinn
Baldwin, Prince, Clayborn and on none of those guys have the potential Quinn does. This guy has all pro type ability. Sure it may take him longer to get there but I’m willing to wait.
by mcpeepants23200 on Nov 3, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
DEMARCO!
Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS
by King Sam Rules! on Nov 3, 2011 11:07 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I wanted him
thought he would be a good RB in the league and I still do. Not pro bowl level but a good solid RB, best used in a rotation with a good power back.
I wanted him from the get go too...
Not as a first or second but solid 3rd for sure…….Still would take Quinn and Kendricks (IDK why but still think he might work out) and then take DeMarco in the 3rd followed by Pettis then Salas (cuz he’ll be there in the 5th) then thats a solid all around draft cuz all the other guys are gone anyway.
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
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quinn is going to be a star in this league
he has loads of talent and is starting to show us a glimpse of it. only a glimpse mind you. i feel there is much more to come.
on another note what do you all think about this luke kuechly? to me he seems to flow to the ball naturally, somewhat like our jl does. it would not hurt my feeling if the rams drafted him.
I haven't seen Kuechly play ...
But I’ve heard good things. I’d like to see the Rams go for an OLB early in the draft.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Nov 3, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
me either and only heard about him yesterday
that is when i checked him out on youtube.
I just watched part of a youtube clip of him against Fla. State -
To me it’s too early to know who’s going to rise to the top in this draft.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Nov 3, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
i agree
but we do need an olb and he has put up some good numbers since he first started.
i just hope the team addresses the lb situation early in the draft. having teams run on you puts a lot of pressure on your defense, as we have seen this season. even though it is a passing league now stopping the run is still a big priority.
Quinn and salas can stay
Rest of this draft bites
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 3, 2011 11:25 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
jabara should still be with the team
i think kendricks will get it together and do well also. he had a good camp and preseason and showed flashes early against gb.
i liked salas more than pettis from the beginning, even when he was struggling early with drops.
I wish we could have kept Jabara - he's going to be good
The Bears quickly snatched him up off waivers
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Nov 3, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
start the redo after the first round
That’s when things went to hell
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Nov 3, 2011 12:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not much of an expert
But would it be worth it to see what Jason Smith could do on the inside? Sort of like a Robert Gallery switch?
yeah it would be worth it
good run blocker who struggles in pass protection. Sound almost exactly like Gallery. I’d like to see it

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