Recap: Rams Lose Another One To The Cardinals
by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 27, 2011 3:34 PM CST
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PrintThe St. Louis Rams lost another game that they could have just as easily won today. Then again, that really is nothing new for this team. Blame the injuries, blame the lockout, those things certainly factored into the Rams eighth consecutive losing season, but the real problems start higher up the food chain. After watching today's loss, it becomes pretty hard to defend Head Coach Steve Spagnuolo, not to mention General Manager Billy Devaney.
I almost tripped over three more nails in the coffin of Spagnuolo's coaching career with the Rams.
Punting to Patrick Peterson...again. Did the Rams learn nothing from what happened in week 9? They punted right to Peterson who returned it 80 yards for his record-tying fourth punt-return touchdown. In a game the Rams lost by three points, those kind of decisions mattered.
The Rams had life in the fourth quarter, a rarity these days. They tied the game on a Brandon Lloyd touchdown following a fumble recovery. Arizona quickly responded with a field goal to take the lead. The Rams got the ball back, finding themselves at fourth-and-one at their own 36-yard line with four minutes left. Rather than go for it, with Steven Jackson who had been effective all day, Spagnuolo decided to punt. Cardinals ran the ball, as they had done all day, and won the game. Gutless is the only way I can describe it. A head coach about to lose his job and he still can't overcome his own chickenshit-ness.
For some strange reason, the Rams simply refused to throw passes to the middle of the field, where they had success last year. Yes, the loss of Danny Amendola changed that, but abandoning that area all together defies logic. Josh McDaniels' epitaph should include "too clever by half" along with "Tom Brady made me look better than I really am."
We'll dig a little deeper later. For now, we fume.
Maybe I'm wrong on this, but Stan Kroenke can't allow Spagnuolo and Devaney to keep their jobs. He would lose all of his credibility and essentially cede whatever future this franchise has in St. Louis.
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Is there still hope for Lance Kendricks?
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Salas is pretty good, Pettis will be good depth,
it’s still too early to say they are all stupid picks.
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
A character flaw?
For nthe last 43 games I have backed the current FO & coaches. I can no longer ! the OL, & HC! they must go …. SPAG-ETTE! Their were 5 plays where he gave the game away to AZ. A 15 Yr. old with some football knowledge could have guided us to a win and maybe others.
Why carry around a RED flag if you are never going to throw it. that move or the lack thereof gave AZ a quick 7 points. This is some more proof that our problems last year were not coming from Shurmur!
Go RAMs !!!
Too bad 4 Pillars guys don't heal faster.
block! building kick! exploooooooosion!
by mooseknuckles41 on Nov 27, 2011 3:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I am so tired of this
I hate that this team is a doormat right now. We spend too much time in this condition. Stan is our only hope right now. Do something please!!!!!!!
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
I still can't believe we took kendricks over my boy torrey smith
I might not ever get over that
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never know...
the rams might be in the running for desean next yr! the eagles dont want to give him a contract.
by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 27, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
torrey smith=first round
Kendricks=second round…
why do i even bother. Fans will only continue to post crap they haven’t reseached and state it as fact.
hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha
smith = 2nd round
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Why do you think nobody else was smart enough to take Torrey before they did?
I mean seriously, can you give a reason why every GM in the NFL isn’t equally as guilty of not taking Torrey Smith before the 2nd round?
Not just Buckeye, but everyone.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
because Smith is a one-dimensional threat
that shouldn’t have been taken before the second round
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All this draft hindsignt shit is just maddening.
I’ma quit while I’m ahead. Not you…others.
Can’t wait for your next mock buckeye.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Torrey Smith=first round
We haven’t seen you back since your dumb comment, must be doing some more research? Hahaha. Definitely second round pick bud
by Rcoon1307 on Nov 27, 2011 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for throwing salt in the wound lol
by Rcoon1307 on Nov 27, 2011 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's really more of an amputation... A wound heals.
We’ve had our shot at easy wins and completely blown em. So when we get clocked next week, it still only counts as one loss.
Look at the pretty colors… Yeah, losin ain’t so bad. We’ll pick early in the draft and that always works out. Yeah, losin ain’t so bad.
Hey Van - you do realise that ever since you decided to revert back to your full and proper name this team has completely sucked?
Sorry – what I meant to say was Spags and Devaney out..!
by JoolzMF on Nov 27, 2011 3:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
BTW - for anyone still left on here who wants to speak up for Spags continuing his tenure as Rams HC, just think about all the dumbass decisions he's made throughout the season - I mean, punting the ball away with time running out???
Are you freakin’ kidding me???
by JoolzMF on Nov 27, 2011 3:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I know it's not his fault Josh Brown missed the FG,
but I didn’t like the uncertainty on what to do on that 4th down at all.
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
It was the right decision.
We dont get that first down and Arizona has the ball in our territory and running game we havent been able to stop all game.
We had a chance to win the game but Brown missed the field goal. STFU
hey moron
why dont you go do some more reasearch and tell us that torry smith was taken in the first round lol , maybe u should stfu
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Nice comeback.
Was the question too difficult for you to answer?
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
easy answer
i dont hate the decision sure 99% would have went for it seeing as we couldnt stop wells all day but thats just a small piece of why spags is terrible , if it was just his gameday decisions i wouldnt mind him being back. its teh cuts and player moves that make me want to vomit. i couldnt stand another season of picking terible players liek gibson over guys like avery. leber over williams ,butler over hines, bajema/stach over fendi, simms/ah you over selvie ETC. those decisions like i said at the time hurt us bad. you can now continue to be a blind follower of spags and billy
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by G unit Rams on Nov 27, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Spags yes
Billy no. Get it right.
But those roster moves did not hurt us “bad.” Maybe a little, but not bad.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 28, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
no they killed us
all preseason the coachs and FO lied to the fans about some stupid no speed needed at WR and that the 2 te system was gonna work. then after 4 or 5 losses every one is saying we need a deep threat, well avery was a great deep threat taht we just let go for no reason. our pass rush has been good at times bad at times having selvie would have helped keep it more constant, having a great talent like fendi who can catch and run after the catch was way better then having 2 old whiteguys that cant do either and arent great at blocking. hines would have saved us having dahl give up 4 or 5 tds, and williams would have gave our d more speed and hunger then pop or leber 2 old guys that suck. put it all together plus if the draft went different we would have won maybe 4 or 5 more games. i will not stand for it to happen agian next year. Bye billy(which we agree on) and bye spags unless the owner/new gm tells him you cant pick the team just coachthem.
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by G unit Rams on Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
I support Spags MFer.
Remember when Spags was crucified last year for going for it on 4th and 1? And SJ couldn’t even get one fucking yard? I do.
Now he doesn’t go for it and he’s a dumb ass.
You fair weather fans can make up what you wanna make up. You’da killed Spags one way or the other. Don’t make dumb shit up like it’s his fault he didn’t go for it on 4th down. Or that we lost the game cause we kicked the ball to Peterson. Do you suggest that we don’t kick the ball to Peterson for the next 15 years? Or should we just not kick it to him when he’s gonna score a touchdown on us? LOL…that’s your logic.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
But that don't make it Spags' fault.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 28, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
There he is!
My little leg humper!
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 28, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I liked the playcall where Steven played quarterback on third and long.
Also enjoyed Spags not kicking the ball out of bounds to Peterson. We sure do have some smart coaches.
Yeah i guess Spags
Got out there and punted the fucking ball…oh wait out PUNTER punted the fucking ball
did u research that yourself
lol ur a moron and u got owned by urself and now will take out ur spags man crush on others lol what round was quinn taken in , go do research and get the hell out of here
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Just my opinion: I think Spags keeps his job, and Billy is a coin toss based on his next talk with Stan. He will definitely have a changed job descrition if he stays
The position coaching staff will be absolutely gutted no matter what happens. Look for a QB coach to be tops on the hire list (please come back Dick Curl!)
McD will be out of a job, even though Stan is/was a fan of his
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When are coaching staffs/management usually shown and kicked out the door?
Is it right away during the post-season or do teams usually wait until after the Super Bowl is said and done? I don’t want to wait until March for some freaking progress.
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Fajole - I don't trust McD
but Ryan’s earlier post has me wondering about Devaney. He said Spags has the final say on personnel decisions.
like i stated on an older post...
please mr. kroenke, save us rams fans from further misery! clean, remodel, hell, DEMOLISH! what you have to with the F.O., coach, and staff! just get it done already!
by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 27, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Were all the people here at the beginning of the year
bandwagoners or reasonable fans?
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idk I think it's reasonable for people to not accept this quality of play...
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I was a bandwagoner
of the GSOT. Now I’m just lying on a bed of nails while being poked with lit cigarettes
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Not really.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Very few trolls around these parts. Take a gander around STLToday forums and it's the exact opposite
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I read a lot of other forums including STL Today. This TST site certainly has some interesting folks and commenters.
Several people on other forums have claimed they were booted from TST for various reasons.
if you get booted by us
you did something incredibly stupid
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so trolls are ppl
that dont take losing ligthly lol ok. you guys have been wrong all season yet u are the smart ones? just cuz u agree with spags and billy and dont get upset when the rams lose , it makes u a real fan lol. you guys are dumb. if u dont get after 3 seasons of crap that they must go read the last sentence.
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But you start hating the Rams just cause they suck.
And that makes you a bandwagoner.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
i love 60% of the rams
ur the one who was hating on SJ39 that makes u a idiot , i hate on the ppl that make the rams suck. u guys r like republicans just cuz ppl hate what makes america bad they say you hate america lol. u guys r dumb as shit to stick up for bad coachs/players just cuz their rams. its called koolaid drinkers
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by G unit Rams on Nov 27, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Arghhhh ugggg NO NO NO
son aff a freakin Bitth WTF what are they thinking Someone explaing Arggggh NO NO NO..
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I think theres an inherent selection bias here
The Rams have been so bad, for so long, that I think it requires a certain temperament. Basically we’re all gluttons for punishment.
Almost everyone on this blog is a bandwagoner.
Most probably became fans when the Rams moved to St. Louis.
They’d rather bash than build up.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Just sad and pathetic
I ain’t gonna abandon this team (I’m not a bandwagoner) but I have no intentions of watching anymore games.
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm going to that game.
… and I’ll wear my colors proudly.
And I’ll call for Spags head viciously.
Feed the BEAST!!
Dude I say the same thing every sunday
and then I find myself looking forward to the next game by about Tuesday.
I don’t know why I do this to myself…..I just love football and love the Rams.
I will gladly make the picks lol
they should just take a few of us and lets us run the draft
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We should do it
We wouldn’t have drafted Kendricks
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
nope I would have taken Quinn-Austin-Foster
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And we'd have won the NFC west with that kind of drafting!
LMAO.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think I said that
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You implied it.
Not looking to stir the pot. Maybe a little, but not really. But we’da been every bit as bad this year with your picks as we are with Billy’s picks.
However, I DO think he should be held accountable for his late round head scratchers. I think a bingo-playing chicken would have better success than Billy in rounds 5-7.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 27, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
I definitely think we would be better off for the future with my picks but whatever lol
he is terrible with late rounders
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In the 2010 Draft what killed me was passing over Aaron Hernandez
and Gronkowski (to a lesser extent) in order to help Bradford out.
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he didn't need a LT.
Saffold was a bad pick.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 28, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Honestly
If they just did a live poll on TST for who to pick in each round, it might work pretty well. I’d be really interested to see how good the hivemind really is at scouting the players.
Actually, this should be something thats done anyway on TST; it’d be really cool to save the results and compare later to see how we did vs. the actual FO.
I'll keep that in mind and set up a post come draft time
if I remember lol
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Who wants to talk some draft?
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We should volunteer Justin King
Either he’s a war hero and won’t work in the NFL anymore, or he never comes back
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
3k loves Terrell Manning from South Carolina
and I like Sean Spence from Miami, but he’s undersized
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Sean spence can ball
He’s a classic example: gonna prove everyone who doubts him cause of his size wrong
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yessir
grabbing him anywhere after the third we be orgasmic
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I think he will fall bad, maybe 4th or 5th
If he is their in the 4th, take him instead of Lamichael. Then we’d have Travis Lewis, JL55, and Sean Spence
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Speed and strength
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not high on Coples at all
but I do like the idea of switching to a 3-4 and grabbing Rob Ryan as our next coach
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Really? The small amount of Vid I've seen of Couples makes him look like a future star?
has he had a bad season this year?
I just think he's been overrated from the beginning
and we should only consider him with a switch to a 3-4, but there should be many better players available when we pick
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No! No defense in the first or second
You can’t put anymore chances of Sam having below average talent around him
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We can't draft another DE
We can’t start 11 DEs although our injury problem in the defensive backfield would probabaly disappear
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Really Move Quinn ?
Just when he is coming into his own as a pass rushing D End lets move him out of Position.Don’t get cute with player. Play them in the position they were drafted for unless you want to be know as B Daveany II
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Manning's from NC State
High motor, always around the ball. Almost as good as Nate Irving last year but not quite. He’s still got another year to play in school. Team will probably suck next year due to graduations and coach could get booted. So he might come out early – kind of doubt it though.
yeah I meant NC state lol
my apologies
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No problem
I wish David Amerson was close to gradution. He leads the NCAA in interceptions. But he’s a soph.
yup
lot’s of good defensive back prospects this year and the next few years
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I do
I think KALIL, Floyd, Travis Lewis, and L. James is not ridiculous.it would take luck, but its not ridiculous. What do you think?
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
DeCastro will go too high for a guard
He’s good but not that good. I’d consider him in the second
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Decastro is moving up boards
Some compare him to the Hutch. He’s gonna ride that hype to the first round
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yup Zeitler for one, maybe Oglesby
Wisconsin and Iowa are O-line factories, along with Utah
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Oglesby would be solid as a late rounder
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Depends, if we trade down
At #2 we have to take KALIL. Plus, KALIL isn’t flavor of the month. He was better than last year’s best tackle prospect. Decastro is just now going up boards, risk that he might just be this weeks flavor.
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would like that
but it would definitely require some luck
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We get KALIL at 2, Floyd falls to the second cause of his character
Travis is gonna be their in the 3rd, and then Lamichael’s size drops him to the 4th
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
New regime
Gonna be implemented soon
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Kalil-Brown-Xavier Rhodes-Keyston Randall-Isaiah Pead-Rokevius Watkins- Marvin Jones
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Who is Brown again?
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I doubt he lasts till the second
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Donnie Fletcher, Brandon Boykin, although he'll probably go higher
May Cliff Harris if his stock stays low.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
All best in zone and run support
Al have average to good size. None are shutdown corners though
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I like Cliff Harris from Oregon
but he’s another one of those dumbass players off the field and he will need a coach to keep him in line. Casey Hayward from Vandy is a turnover machine, and Jonathon Banks from Mississippi is a good developmental type
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Trumaine Johnson from Montana
Desmond Trufant from Washington
Jayron Hoseley could fall,
I like Xavier Rhodes for that round the most though.
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Right now I like
Kalil-Burfict-Brewster-Harris-Rainey-whoever the fuck falls to the seventh that shouldn’t
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yes it will
but give a few weeks with Laurinaitis as his roomie in training camp, and he shouldn’t be too much of a problem
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Yes agreed
Where ever he goes he’ll need a portable head-slapper to accompany him around for a couple of years.
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the reason I like this is
it fixes the offensive line, gives us some swagger and playmakers on defense and still gives sam a somewhat decent weapon
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don't tell me you wouldn't want to watch a nickel package with
Quinn, Long, Burfict, Laurinaitis, and Harris on the field together
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If they could all stay on the field
It would be a fuckin ass woopin. Love to see it
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lol then grab honey badger next year
the other teams would piss themselves just thinking about our D
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I'd like Shayne Skov (if he comes out) and Tank Carder
at OLB, like the guys who are ultra-productive tacklers and leaders. Seems like those traits carry over at LB spots.
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Who wants the Pack o-coordinator as a HC candidate?
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Maybe we should look at them when we need to pick up a WR off the streets
There has to be more than Philly-NYG
the pack dont have a o coordinator
McCarthy is the hc n the oc. He calls all the plays
by markg1127 on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I heard stuff about a guy holding out for a college head coaching job with the pack
Maybe it was the qb coach
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Quote: "A head coach about to lose his job and he still can't overcome his own chickenshit-ness."
Best, most accurate statement about the Rams I’ve heard in a month of Sundays.
I also said this on another thread
And I’m officially on the Kalil bandwagon..
Ignorance is Bliss
by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 4:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Every QB would have fumbled that ball
He literally got the snap, and 2 seconds later he was destroyed on his blindside.
Sam Bradford
He had a few misses, but the recievers dropped a bunch of passes
and the O-line did him NO favors. I dont have any idea how you can blame that fumble on him; the DE was hitting his blindside at full force in less than two seconds. No QB is responsible for that.
The point is, he looked much more confident today, with good accuracy and some nice deep throws.
Joe Troll can say anything he wants to.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 28, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
You can blame his poor play on his high ankle sprain.
Remember, that type of injury takes time to heal.
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Rams P Donnie Jones said he mis-hit punt that was returned 88 yards for a TD by Patrick Peterson. It was supposed to be directional punt.
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That's called
Covering up a mistake by everyone by taking the bullet.
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 4:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Its STILL SPAGS fault
Clearly he told Jones to punt it directly to Peterson.
Fans are not fucking overreacting as usual again!
We need a playmaker no more first round o linemen
Last year green bay and pittsburgh were in the top ten in sacks allowed… no more of this o linemen first round drafting BS; there really is almost no argument. We need a playmaker. We have to take Blackmon if he’s available.
are you really trying to argue that an offensive line isn't important?
I wouldn’t mind drafting blackmon, but to say that there is no argument for drafting an oline when it’s OBVIOUS McDaniels’ offense does NOT FUNCTION without a good line.
by TheBirds on Nov 27, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
receivers can make an o line's job easier, not vice versa
We need o line help, but it’s painfully obvious that we have no game breakers at all. McD’s offense also requires quicker plays by the QB, our receivers have an agonizing time getting open. The o linemen need more fire before we start burning more first rounders on these bums. The majority of the playoff teams from the last few years give up a good amount of sacks but have great defense and can score when needed. Throwing the ball better and have more weapons would lighten the blitzing too.
by Bronx_Bomber26 on Nov 27, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
I also think we need to go receiver
Right now we literally only have one receiver in Brandon Lloyd, if nobody can get open than it doesn’t matter how long sam has to throw. Unless we can get a #1 reciever in FA then we need to draft a true #1.
I actually agree.
Id take an o-lineman in the second round, but I think the need for a Blackmon-style playmaker is absolutely desperate at this point.
I've been Rams fan over 40 years, I don't remember them ever being this bad. We need to restructure from ground up, starting with the f.o. Sad days
by RenoRammin on Nov 27, 2011 4:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
we need o-linemen or Sams gonna die on the field.
It sucks because of the choices made in the past but other than Sam we’re right where we were 3 years ago.
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Two words Marc Bulger
There where times when i thought he was colorblind because he threw the ball too the other team so many times, at least this team has promise on defense our 11th string corners played pretty well and long – quinn is going to make me a very happy man in the future.
Justin Blackmon
Hes a big play maker, and we need guys who can go get the ball and make something happen. The O-Line obviously needs help but we have passed up so many good receivers that i cant stand it happening again.
FA vet WR would make more of an impact over any rookie.
We have drafted 2 WR last year, let them develop.
claiborne...
powell
floyd
kalil
j. james….
in no particuliar order.
by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 27, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2011 Rams run defense
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What happens when your brutally injured all year.
Didn’t have Bannan in there btw
On a positive note
Quinn and Long are doing well
We scored 20 points (when you mention we had multiple turnovers and big plays we couldn’t capitalize on then that 20 points looks a little worse not to mention 7 came off a return and there were 2 FG’s so 13 points not from the offense….. Fuck it)
Ummmm. AH screw it.
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Rank the rams needs for next season
1. DT
2. LB
3. OL
4. CB
5. WR (assuming we resign lloyd)
And we really need a WR, we’re in trouble
Kalil above all
Then blackmon, jeffery, jonathan martin, morris clayborne,
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
NO! Lets just get a bunch of worthless picks and say we got a team.
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Well lets keep on pushing along. If it's broke then lets break it some more.
We got the ability to be awful. Lets keep goin down this track to disaster.
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NO NO NO we don't have the ability we are already awful
lets be even worse.
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Wr should atleast be 2nd
No matter if we do resign Lloyd..
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 4:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
our offensive line is still a catastrophe
even w/o injuries.
And we have allowed 2 franchise records for rushing to be broken this season, we need a DT and a LB.
Not worse than Wr
With all of that bad on D we still could have won the game with another impact offensive player, wr shouldnt be no less than 2..
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 4:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whats not gonna happen?
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
WR in the first
as bad as we need one now I just don’t see it. Unless we get some more FA help on the line
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Agree with rg
Oline showed how bad we need kalil today and wen bradfprd had time he was legit. so thats my number one priority. But if we cant get kalil, than blackmon is the guy
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 27, 2011 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
To me WR or OT depends on whether Lloyd comes back.
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Wells should pay the Defense for all the missed tackles
Never seen so many missed tackles, a high school team could do better. Wells should
pay the Rams defense for all those yards, are you kidding me. Spags was a Defense
coach what the hell ?
The Offense finally does something & the defense give up that many yards.
Only fire spags if we can get a guy like andy reid
But billy d has to go. We need an aggressive gm.
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 27, 2011 4:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Stuff that pissed me off
Patrick peterson…. again?
Our Defense couldn’t stop a faucet from leaking who would have thought our pass defense would be better then our run defense. For christ sake son when the secondary is on life support and they are better then you, you should be sent your walkin papers.
The offense couldn’t do shit as usual. I just come to expect these things
Steven Jackson should have had a bigger game against the cards. This O-line is pitiful
McD can’t call a fuckin game. Throw all of the “oh the lockout and its a new system blah blah blah” This offense should look like it can at least score 2 touchdowns a game on average. This offense couldn’t score points if they were the only people on the fuckin field they would probably trip over their own damn shoe laces.
Spags is a defensive minded coach who seems unable to address any problems on his
worthless defense.
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+++++++++++++++++1
His Offence has been horrendous, there is no reason for him to stay.
Josh can fix this.
He has a reputation of great offense, so this offense not clickin says more about our team than josh. An offense can b deadly but if the players arent talentef… Ur screwed
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 27, 2011 4:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But he hasn't adjusted to our talent level
Unless we become the patriots next year more of the same is gonna happen , because hes shown he is too stubborn to make adjustments too his perfect offence when the talent inst there. So unless we get extremely lucky in the draft and free agency then josh’s offence isn’t going to work.
When pat had a more productive offense then you, ya better get to fixin it
Because we are the worst offense in the league. We are horrendous, awful, bad, terrible and any other word you want to tag on it we suck.
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And no one would blame you for saying that.
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I'd just like to point out that CBS ranks Josh Harris, Auburn- long snapper
as the #404 best prospect in the up coming 2012 NFL draft. How’d you like to bet we pick him in the first round, because he’s the #1 rated long snapper.
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At least we would get the best of something on our team.
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Atleast sam broke tht funk he was in
Now we have to protrct him….
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 27, 2011 4:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
bottom line-
we need to take chances on talent in this draft. We can’t keep making pussy decisions on and off the field. I don’t think Spags or Billy D have the juevos rancheros to run an NFL team.
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I would hope for someone that will be a sort of football czar and be the guy that runs the draft and picks up players in FA
and lets the coach do his own thing. Vermeil would be great
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MY Draft:
Martin in the 1st
Decastro in the second, if not then the Top CB available
3rd – OLB
4th DT
5th DT or OLB
6th and 7th – best available athlete
The go absolutely bat crap crazy in FA for 2 or 3 great players and depth
Dont like it honestly
We’ve slumped on talent in the draft for bradford and for them to do it again, I’d have to say they need to be fired. Look at all the successful Qbs and their FOs built around them, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady and Peyton manning to state a few..
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well Im talking about
Getting bradford talent to work with through the draft. Look at the Falcons they are providing Matt with the tools to succeed through the draft, by aw much means as to trade away most of their draft to insure he has a weapon. Colts after mannings first season already had a number one but took the right away and get him another in the first round..
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What we'll probably do
1st- te
2nd-ls
3rd-wb
4th-cl
5th-bg
7th-albert Pujols
7th- from Cleveland-Nolan Ryan
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definitions:
tight end
long snapper
water boy
cheerleader
bag groceries
Defensive end
defensive end
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Don't laugh at your own jokes. LOLOLOLOLOL
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I think Martin has elite potential
but Kalil is miles upon miles ahead of him as a prospect
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I understand that
but I don’t think it justifies not taking someone who looks as good as Kalil does
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Ive read that Kalil lacks elite athleticism
do you think he has Elite upside as an NFL left tackle? As in perennial pro-bowler?
yes
his biggest problem is run blocking but after some time in an NFL strength and conditioning program that shouldn’t be a problem
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So who would you compare him to as a prospect
Is he as good or better than Jake Long was coming out of college?
a little bit less than Long
but definitely the best prospect since him
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Hmm.
And how would you rate Blackmon? Ive seen wildly differing opinions on him, from “he will be Reggie Wayne or Terrell Owens,” to “he doesn’t have the skills to be an elite number one receiver and will likely be a number 2 at the NFL level.”
Blackmon’s upside will strongly influence my position on the draft; if he is truly an elite playmaker, I’d say go for him over Kalil. If he’s questionable, though, Id go for Kalil. What do you think?
I like Blackmon but Kalil is far and away the better prospect
I actually like Jeffery better than Blackmon, but I’m way in the minority on that one
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Sorry for butting in but can I ask why
You like Jeffery more? I think Blackmon better suits our system..
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 6:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol butt in whenever you want
and Jeffery has incredible physical abilities. I think Blackmon’s numbers are inflated by the system and Jeffery’s are severely hampered by his system. I just think Jeffery is the better player.
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I agree with you, I do believe Jeffery is better
But I think we would be better served with getting Blackmon with his skill set, I do agree with his numbers being inflated though.
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by RG31 on Nov 27, 2011 6:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I dunno
I think we could use Jeffery’s ability in the red zone
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Blackmon reminds me of boldin
Both from a physical stand point.. And tht I think he can be an ok number one, but is better suited to be a number 2
by Ram_Redemption on Nov 27, 2011 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not just offensive linemen, but outside of Matthews everyone
And not just USC but the entire Pac-8,10,12
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Hey doug when is some one going to judge our nfl all time teams?
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Not sure. Huge job doing fanposts for each team like we did for the BWL.
I haven’t heard from SMASH44 on whether he liked his prize or not?
Who wants to do another draft tonight?
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
It would be better then talking about the rams
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Any ideas?
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not yet but I know doug will say have another BWL draft which seems a bit repetitive to me
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He needs more man-ladies
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There are just so many but so little draft picks
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He never even got to pick Michelle (michael) Jackson
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
oh oh
my keyboard is double posting I better let it cool off see ya’ll some other time and place.
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Hey Doug. Three teams through four weeks is an 11-1 record :(
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HEY JSWIRB IM CALLING YOUR CANDY ASS OUT FOR THE CAPS LOCK CHAMPIONSHIP!
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
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Lol, it's funny
Cause hes gonna think your serious
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I LAID DOWN THE CHALLENGE ON DOUGS LAST POST THE ONE ABOUT KRON OH WHO GIVES A SHIT
I AM READY TO LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN!
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Don't do it RamPage! Spare us!
Why can’t you have the ultimate hot girl posting competition?
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
devaney and spags must have pocketed the unused cap money we had
God forbid they used to build a football tram
we were had
Draft
Justin Blackmon or Alshon Jeffrey in the first round to go along with Lloyd and Amendola. Add a RB David Wilson, Lamar Miller, or Chris Polk. DT Slyvester Williams NC. OLB Danny Levathan, Sean Spence, Sean Porter,Cameron Lawrence Miss St. At CB Cliff Harris; a cover cover who can return kicks, Jonathon Banks Miss St.. Slot WR Kendall Wright or Jarius Wright,. At the S position Janzen Jackson, Brandon Taylor.
Ok, my one issue with your draft
Slough basically did was say “draft players” a list that long is ridiculous
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's Not A Draft Nor A Mock Draft For The Rams
It is; aside from the #1 choice Backmon/Jeffery, is just a list of players that may help the Rams in areas of need. If a team needs help in multiple areas; I would hope that there draft board is longer and more in depth than this “list”
a list that long is ridiculous
I listed solid players by their position. RB: Wilson,Polk, Miller. Out of those three RB’s I listed, there is a good chance that The Rams would be in a good position to pick one of them. There is nothing ridiculous about it. I could make it ridiculous by listing Greg Childs as a top WR prospect for The Rams; now that would be ridiculous.
hell lets go after jim tressell
He’s not doing anything important is he?
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by Throw on Nov 27, 2011 5:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Good God would he make a terrible NFL coach
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No, unless he coaches tattoo removal
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by King Sam Rules! on Nov 27, 2011 5:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
fair catch coach
Lol
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by Throw on Nov 27, 2011 5:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
nope
I guess he could make a decent assistant to a defensive coordinator3
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We would have to give a draft pick to the colts
He is an adviser their and is doing such a great job. Good old boy network. Please dont do that again. Jesh
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devaney will pick up a 3rd rounder from stanford
and think he made a wise pick——-because he got him cheap
i hate to say this but ud half to be crazy to let spaggs keep his job .. they should have went for it twice once forth and one with 3 30 to go and u have steven jackson thats a stupid move it was almost like he wanted to lose???
Id clean em all out and do what ever it took to keep lyod
We might be down now but when we get back up u better move out are way are ul get RAMED!!!
RAMS 2012 DRAFT
1- GM
2- HC
3- OC
4-7 Bad Espn analysts so they can praise us.
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On the bright side we already got picks 4-7 sewn up
Now as for picks 1-3 SHUDDER
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And iv been a fan since birth and iv never been more disapointed in are coachs and gm i think bradford only got sacked once so good job line.
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Spags pregame interview
Find it funny that Spags stated “the one thing we can’t do today is punt the ball to Peterson and let him beat us”. Hmmmm?
by Rcoon1307 on Nov 27, 2011 7:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
He says he told Donnie not to punt it to him
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by loyal2therams on Nov 27, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
Another example of him not in command of his players….
by Rcoon1307 on Nov 27, 2011 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Spags is gone
I was honestly thrilled about Spags being brought here. He was going to overhaul the defense and we were going to play smash mouth football. Now 39 (or whatever it is) losses later I realize that our whole FO and coaching staff needs to be fired. This team is going to start giving me medical problems. Although on the bright side I played beanie wells in FF. Atleast I got that going for me lol
by Rcoon1307 on Nov 27, 2011 7:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
so was the 228 yrds rushing by beanie wells!!!!
by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 27, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
My FF team absolutely sucked wind today. Has SJax going this week. He had been on a roll for a while
Doug, we gonna commandeer a post for a late night chat thread?
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