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2012 NFL Mock Draft: Success Spoils The Andrew Luck Debate For St. Louis

Winning is a powerful thing. Prior to this week's win, every 2012 NFL Mock Draft had the St. Louis Rams in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. Granted, there are still nine games left to play, but if this week's upset win over the New Orleans Saints is any indication, the Rams are out of the mix for the top pick in the draft. The 2012 NFL Mock Drafts are already starting to reflect this new conventional wisdom. 

A mock from our friends over at NFL Mocks has the Rams picking sixth. And who do they pick with the sixth pick? 

The answer revealed and a couple more curveballs after the jump.

Star-divide

Different pick, familiar name in this mock draft...

Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina

Here's their take on the pick.

Blackmon has the more impressive college resume, but that doesn't make it automatic that he'll be the better N.F.L player. What kind of weakness to Jeffery have to his game? He has the lateral quickness and route running ability that will translate to the N.F.L. He has unbelievable size, good hands, and is a plus blocker to boot. His numbers are down this year because the Gamecocks are pathetic at the quarterback position, but he's still a top 10 talent, just like he was entering the season.

The Jeffery vs. Justin Blackmon debate should be this year's version of the Julio Jones vs. A.J. Green debate, different players, different skill sets, different roles in the NFL. 

For the Rams, there's already been some talk that if they opt to keep Brandon Lloyd, they don't need to worry about wide receivers in the first round. Maybe. Lloyd is a good addition, and based on early returns, I hope they lock him up for a couple years beyond this one. Still, if the last few years of watching the Rams has taught us anything, you can never have enough talent at the offensive skill positions. If Blackmon or Jeffery are on the board when the Rams do their picking, they have to be in the conversation. 

I was a little surprised to see Clemson DT Brandon Thompson picked so high, but he's the best in a weak DT class this year. 

Alabama running back Trent Richardson gets picked in the top here, and I can't argue with that. Taking running backs in the first round is so passe to some, but RIchardson is the exception that proves the rule, in my feeble mind anyway. Let me ask you this, do think the Rams made a mistake taking Steven Jackson in the first round? Richarson reminds me of Jackson, and he looks like a better player, to me, than his former teammate Mark Ingram. Talent is talent. Since Ingram was very, very high on the Rams draft board this year, I would expect Richardson to be in the conversation in 2012. 

Stanford OT Jonathan Martin gets picked 10th here. I think that's a little low. In fact, I expect a Martin vs. Matt Kalil debate. 

Michael Floyd's draft position is going to be a huge debate between now and April.

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No doubt if we have Lloyd or not. Pick the WRs

Just look at the Bruce and Holt duo did during the GSOT years. Lets get this offense rolling.

by crashoveride01 on Nov 2, 2011 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

At this point, I'd honestly rather want a CB

I said this in another thread somewhere but I’ll just put it here too. Ron Bartell’s career unfortunately looks over, Bradley Fletcher has now had 2 surgeries on the same knee, and we still have no clue what we have in Jerome Murphy. I think it’s a must that we get a top CB prospect in this draft. Even before a top flight WR.

It's put up or shut up time for these WR's. Someone's going to have to perform or else they'll all be hitting the street. ESPECIALLY YOU ALEXANDER

by ramswo85 on Nov 2, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way

WR is still our biggest issue.

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by weekend_warrior55 on Nov 2, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Coples is there, I can't help thinking of moving Quinn to OLB and his former teammate at DE

Coples is just plain scary good! Richardson has to be in our thoughts though? If it’s going to be a WR, I’m leaning toward Blackmon now.

by Douglas M on Nov 2, 2011 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Quinn at outside linebacker

I agree , but does he have the talent to be an Olb. Blackmons highlights this year are incredible. Blackmon, Floyd, Amendola, a defensive nitemare.

by RenoRammin on Nov 2, 2011 1:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Stick with offense first

We’ve been drafting high on defense lately. The WR is the perfect fit for the Rams. If Lloyd wants to be around and I believe he does, the information he could feed Jeffery would be great. Go for CB in the second and DT or OLB in the third.

by MOOSERAM13 on Nov 2, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

We're heading towards a tough spot again

Though we only have 1-win, if we’re being projected out of the top 5 we may be outside the WR debate again. I can’t see either of the WR’s dropping out of the Top 5, with Luck, Kalil, and Barkley accompanying them in some manner. If that happens, Richardson vs Kirkpatrick vs Floyd jumps to the forefront, and maybe even Martin (though I might puke if we take another OL high in the draft).

I’m kinda glad to see that teams may pass on Jeffery because of lack of production (may drop to us somehow) but I don’t think it’s realistic. Then again, 10-6 is still out there, playoffs…then…SUPPAHH B—- we’ll have to see :)

All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain

by kinzav29 on Nov 2, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

DEF

Keep Lloyd who addressed a need. We can still get a good WR later plus Salas is coming on and Danny will be back, Pettis can play. It’s easier to think Danny is coming back with an elbow than a CB with a neck, and knees. CB I would prefer Claiborne even though he is projected as the #2 CB in the draft. OLB Zach Brown is the 6th rated player in the draft and in this mock we pick 6 and the Rams are his favorite team. On the same track as Douglas but keeping Quinn and DE and having a Tarheel at OLB. The top 2 CBs are the 12th and 13th rated players.

by RWRAMS28 on Nov 2, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I still say go for a wr

get sam a young playmaker, I mean even with how good lloyd is, he is still 30

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by Throw on Nov 2, 2011 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Still say wr Rb would be a waste

In the first round, SJax is still good for another season. Even though we have Lloyd Sam needs his wr of the future, skipping on this issue again won’t help Sam.

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Nov 2, 2011 12:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Richardson

I think by the time we pick inthe draft, all the top receivers will be gone. You have to pick Trent Richardson, he’s gonna be an animal in the NFL

by RenoRammin on Nov 2, 2011 1:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No you dont

Rbs aren’t as important as they once were and rb is no where near our number 1 priority, picking one this year would be a waste of a pick..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Nov 2, 2011 1:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Priorities, we have to many. Best talent available and by the time we pick we are going to need someone to fill the predators shoes. Trent Richardson is a beast and the only running back in the draft that could do that.The predator would be an excellent mentor.

by RenoRammin on Nov 2, 2011 2:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea but we need

Wr, Cb, Olb and line work WAY before rb and picking an rb in the first would be a waste..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Nov 2, 2011 2:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I seriously want Alshon in the first

or Blackmon. One of the top tier WRs

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 2, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That makes two of us

I’d rather have Blackmon but Jeffrey is good too..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Nov 2, 2011 2:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

cause it's so nice to see cassel

even though I don’t think he’s that great, but Bowe and Baldwin make him look soooo much better

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea thats what a 1 is supposed to do

Look at Stafford, he just throws it up to Calvin and he comes down with it..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Nov 2, 2011 2:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I want a playmaker first

    If not a WR, get a shutdown corner. We need a OL but not first. No more first round OL till we fill our DL, WR, and CB needs.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Nov 2, 2011 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Playmaker

I fully agree, whatever position we draft, has to be best at that position. A straight up playmaker

by RenoRammin on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

shut down corner for sure...

Lloyd is only 30 yrs old, and the rams can squeeze at least 4 more yrs out of him, at a reasonable price. jefferies, and blackmon would be nice, but i really feel that salas, and pettis can become really good wr’s for the rams with a good full yr under there belts.

so if cb’s clairbore or kirkpatrick are on the board? the rams should pounce, on one of them. bot L.S.U. and ALABAMA ’s defense are stacked with defensive talent across the board. 1st rd, CB, 2nd rnd, DT, 3rd OLB, then whatever else the needs apply.

by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 2, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll take Zach Brown or one of the corners

Maybe even Martin. He looks physically like a monster

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd be happy with that...but we'll have to trade-up

…since WE’RE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS!

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 2, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

uh....

can i have some of what youre smoking??

by rams.28 on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

look at our remaining schedule

a man can dream

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 2, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's the best cb in the draft

Look what Peterson is doing for Arizona, we could use a stud like that.

by RenoRammin on Nov 2, 2011 1:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Im going to do another comparison post

But its going to be about defense this time, who should the two players be?
Any suggestions?

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Hosley v Minnifield

All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain

by kinzav29 on Nov 2, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

has to be cb imo...

we all dont even know when, or IF ron bartell will even be back, fletcher, i love the kid! is injury prone, those knee’s are about as bad as DX’s, and king just straight up needs to go! al harris is on his way to retirement, murphy will be a good one…

it has to be a cornerback. no question. theres 3 n.f.l. ready cb’s on that L.S.U. squad…

CLAIRBORNE
REID
MATHIEU…

only thing is tyrann matheiu’s only a sphomore, but can play in the pro’s if he declared. i like him the most out of the 3.

by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 2, 2011 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Matheiu can't declare

he is a true sophomore and you have to be 3 years out of high school to declare

by Brick Top on Nov 2, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not really too dull on our CB situation

Fletch was just bad luck and you have to believe Bartell is coming back

by Rickrock on Nov 2, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

bad luck?

fletcher=2 season ending knee injuries in 3 yrs? so your saying your ok with justin king? murphy has a knee injury also, so who knows how long that will heal. and bartell, if he does come back, will he be the same player?

by Mark Jaramillo on Nov 2, 2011 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

total bs

He uses his size because he can. If you want good film on him look up last year against LSU,or Florida. Don’t rely on this years performance, .USCs QB play has sucked this year.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Nov 2, 2011 6:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly, (joemammaz)! And that is Jeffries weakness!

Jaguars have a speed guy, they need a power guy, Jefferies!
We Don’t need a slower bigger target.
We need a Big breakaway route-runner, who can finish over the top too.
Blackmon is a No-Brainer!
A Big, fast-moving target who can run route’s, And break them off for better opportunities.
Blackmon and Lloyd would be great with Amendola and Clayton, for Sam…….

by look closer on Nov 2, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea that makes sense in getting another big play WR later...we do need a big time guy though

but if we had lots of WR to run all over the field and all make plays rather then to focus on one then I’m good with that…..this yr in particular showed we need alot of help a top 5 WR can’t fill.

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Winston Churchill

by SMASH44 on Nov 3, 2011 3:26 AM CDT reply actions  

"do you think the Rams made a mistake taking Steven Jackson in the first ?"

 No; I think drafting Jackson was a great call. Also, I see nothing wrong with drafting a RB in the first round if that player is a priority team need. This draft ;2012, will have a deep RB class: Lamar Miller, David Wilson, Cyrus Gray, Chris Polk, and Christine Michael to name a few; actually more than a few. Some of these talented backs will fall to the later rounds where their value will be greater. IMO; The Rams should draft Blackmon or Jeffery if either is available when they select.

by ValdezY on Nov 3, 2011 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

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