Jets Vs. Broncos Thursday Night Football (NFL & NCAA) Open Thread
by 3k on Nov 17, 2011 6:30 PM CST
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PrintThere's some great football tonight at both major levels, and some great storylines to boot.
At the NFL level, Thursday Night Football rolls on on the NFL Network in 50 minutes featuring the New York Jets and Denver Broncos in a key non-division battle that could well determine the fortunes of men hoping to.... aw, who am I kidding.
TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!
I've been asked whether or not I think Tim Tebow can be an effective NFL quarterback hundreds of times, and despite railing against him as a prospect in the 2010 NFL Draft, my answer has always been yes...in the right situation.
Yes, you have to run a system that creates mismatches in your favor by working him into a power running scheme and using that to open space for your receivers. Yes, you need a big offensive line who can negate any push from the defensive line, especially on the interior. Yes, you need an athletic hybrid TE (not Daniel Fells...) who can be used as a decoy in either the run or passing game to confuse linebackers and safeties. And yes, you need the combination of a possession-type receiver (Eric Decker) and a speed guy (not on their roster...) to work different levels of a defense that should fill the box.
That's a hell of a lot of specific needs for an offense to tailor solely due to your quarterbacks' limitations as a passing threat. But it can work. I'm certain of it.
Meanwhile at the college level, North Carolina travels to Virginia Tech in a half hour on ESPN in a great game stacked with quality defensive talent, and, as Rams fans, it's hard not to be intrigued by UNC WR Dwight Jones and Virginia Tech RB David Wilson. Nevertheless, the reality is that this game offers maybe a dozen guys on the defensive side who will find a home in the NFL sometime soon.
So watch some football, damnit, and holler right here.
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Bold prediction
Tebow 7 for 32, 82 yards passing; 107 yards rushing 1 TD. Pats win 45-10.
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but my coin flip says otherwise....hmmm
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While picking the Pats is indeed bold
you didnt say who they were going to beat…………the Broncos or the Jets
they're so Belichicky
they beat both even when they’re not playing.
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by 3k on Nov 17, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
oh god damnit, why did I think the broncos were playing the Pats? I clearly can't read
Well, in that case, Jets will win 32-10.
Fuck it, I’m done for tonight, I don’t even know who’s playing.
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by sergey606 on Nov 17, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bolder prediction
Tebow and Sanchez combine for 18/45 240 yards 1 TD and 4 Picks. Rex Ryan takes a dump on John Fox.
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
ah, John the Fox
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Dwight Jones playing a strong possession game early
Seriously think he’s worth a look early day 3
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Liking Thomas for 2014 though
He’s raw now but a couple more years under Beamer will be interesting.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
GOOOOOOOOO TEBOWWWWW
jets are going down
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COME ON TEEEEBOOOOOOOWWWW
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I'm glad McGehee found a team that let's him run
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This picture is great
That look of determination is insane.
Correction: Your phone jswirb's his name.... - DCRamFan
Option in the NFL
Wonder if they’ll just install a spread offense
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How many would be chewing Spagnuolo's ass out right now if the Rams just did that?
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Or do we boycott FG's all together?
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WAIT is this the Jeremiah Johnson out of UO?
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since no one answered, I checked, yes.
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3-0
and it begins , the jets are in for a long day
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THATs a fucking PA pass, I was fooled
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i wish we had tebow as our 4th down qb/ fullback
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Can anyone tell me once and for all why Brian Orakpo does Geico commercials?
I mean you’re a pretty devout football fan, I doubt that very many people have any idea who he is.
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I'll kick you in the Orakpo
(“Orakpoed—it’s another word for sacked”)
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Caption Contest
“I’m going to swallow this football whole, and there is nothing you can do to stop me!”
Worst starting QB vs 2nd worst starting QB in the NFL.
At least neither are on my team.
What a shit game to watch in primetime
Feed the BEAST!!
man tebow is fun to watch
idk why ppl hate him. he does what he does and he wins
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Beautiful catch Plaxico! they better not take that away
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
With the amazing commentary skills of mike mayok (get a better name) and um... That other guy
What else would you expect but grade A commentary and analysis.
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Tebow IS Jesus. When I take days off.
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Too bad Satan plays hockey. Looks a little chilly in hell these days.
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I loved Miro Satan when he was playing
I remember I was playing fantasy hockey, and he was on my team, I got a little reminder about him, clicked it and it said “Miroslav Satan has recorded his 666th point in the game yesterday”
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Yeah I don't follow Hockey so I don't care much.
While I expand my knowledge on this useless subject, who in your opinion is the best hockey player ever.
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Well, Gretzky of course
My favorite player growing-up was Pavel Bure, now it’s Ovechking
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probably the most well known hockey player ever.
Only hockey players I know are Gretz, Brett Hull, Ovechkin and some other guy whos name I can’t think of.
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I believe you're thinking of Super Mario
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
We certainly appreciated his services in Pittsburgh for a year
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Ah Pittsburgh. A city remembered for its..... steel and.... Being as bad as Philadelphia but having none of the great historical significance
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I love seeing all the Steelers fans in Alaska and my buddy had a funny ass quote
“Never have I set foot in Pittsburg, but god damn do I love the Steelers!”
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Never have I set for in Missouri, but ahh shit do I love the Rams
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Well
I’ve been to STL = Love the Rams; been to DC = love the Caps; been to Oregon = OS Beavers; never been to Phoenix (but been to AZ) = Love my DBacks
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I have steeler's fans and that may be due to a large group of band wagoners that teams like them have gathered.
You know successful teams.
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them, pats and red sox have the most bandwagon fans
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NC D Looking Good Vs V-Tech.
V-Tech D has done some literal and figuritive damage as well. David Wilson has been hemmed up as The Tarhills are putting more men up front. He had some great runs earlier. Wilson has explosion and a lot of power for his size.
Soooo pissed off when Rams cut Lance Ball. Solid 3rd RB
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Either Linehan's last year or Spags' first. Can't remember. Final cuts of preseason
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2008-Linehan's last. In favor of Pittman, Minor and Leonard..
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
Just counted through the 2008 roster. There were 46 players who are longer on the Rams.
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John Connor?
Like, from the future?
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god damnit
thought i had a hockey game tonight….it’s tomorrow
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Broncos are taking some late shots at Sanchez
I have seen two not called. Clearly late hits
Sam Bradford
i meant to say this earlier
have you seen the tebow play fake? he actually sells the run, same with sanchez…that’s Sam’s problem
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Tebow time
come one fantasy points and beating the spread!
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tebow is unreal
so damn clutch. i love his game . he is awesome makes the game so diff and exciting
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you remember adam jones?
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knucklehead on the field?
i wanna see him
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TEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOW
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he is a winner.
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
teboooooooooooooow
MOST CLUTCH QB IN THE NFL. WISH HE WAS ON OUR TEAM
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yeh i know
he made denver a winner , thats nothing
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Dude...
How about that defense that allowed them to play Tebow ball. how about that line who has been picking up the Jet’s blitzed spectacularly all night.
how bout we have more talent
then denver
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
seriously man? him over sam, I'm with him, GTFO
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4-1
1-6
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
you know with the way tebow plays
teams are gonna figure him out by the end of this season. he can’t fucking throw
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they should have had him
figured before the season or after 2 games but it hasnt worked yet
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
he wasn't starting
you’re fucking dumb dude, he has had shit games too bud
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yeh but we all knew waht kind of qb he was
why are you so mad. take ur meds bro. i know he didnt start if u thought tebow would be like the other qbs u are the retard. he wins , do you get that little man he wins with a team that was 1-4 without him starting.
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
why are you always so god damn negative about the guy
he CONSISTENTLY has proved you wrong and you still hate
Yeah that's what our WR's need, Tim Tebow
Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.
no its what
the team needs a winner leader. not some prissy gilr QB, shit i know its a prissy QB league , i just got excited to see a warrior play that position
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
No, you got excited to see Mike Alstott play that position
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wow this guy is 4-1
i dont care how he does it. we won 13-12 ugly and u guys were so happy but this kid keeps winning and u guys really can talk
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
im not seeing..
Tebow receive any type of pressure. He’s just standing in the pocket, realizes he can’t throw then tucks it and runs. the Jets are doing pathetic in getting pressure on this guy.
he got pressured on that throw to his te at the end there
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
HAHAHA @ John Elway who just looked like "Shit. Now I gotta stick with this guy some more"
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Watch..
The defense won’t get any credit for keeping the Jets to 13 points.
lol
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
keep throwing to keller
more fantasy points, thank, Tebow, btw
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how the hell
how do you break outside contain on third and 4 when he has run for 3 first downs on the drive, its bad football
lol one of the best d
and its bad d , come on , the hate on this kid is stupid. he plays hard and you guys hate him for guys that get hit and fall down in fetal position lol
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
It was bad defense
If you know anything about football you would know that you cannot break outside contain on that play, Jim leonard is at fault for that touchdown. if he stays in position tebow would have had to have thrown the ball away.
i played for 12 years buddy
they tried to get him b4 he got roll out but he is too good.
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
terrible
where is jim leonard join on that play
wish we drafted von miller
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He's a 3-4 stud
4-3 he would just be another OLB
Sam Bradford
G unit Rams wishes we drafted Tim Tebow
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Great story
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
9/20 for 104, 8 carries 68 yards and the game winner
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yeah but they use miller as a stand up rusher
its like a hybrid
Sam Bradford
WINNING tebow time haah
you guys can hate all you like. but seeing him turn 1-4 into 4-1 is awesome.
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no kidding
move to denver if you want too
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and YOU can hate all YOU want but Bradford is, supposedly, YOUR QB for the next decade
get used to it
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i like Sam
you guys are just pathetic that cuz i am happy for a good christian warrior , u guys get ur panties in a bunch. if i could go back and do what i wanted and get suh and tebow we would be better no questions about it. ur delousional homers if u think different. i am also happy to have sam but just cuz i am rams fan i wont say salas is better then wes cuz he isnt on my team. sam will probably end up being better , he is better fit for the position but i love real football where qbs get hit and dont slide where helmet to helmet is legal. this new NFL is boring tebow makes it fun for me. now calm down and go look at the roster sam is still there CALM down
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
I used to not like the Broncos
but they’re growing on me. Love Von Miller and John Fox is a nice break from the non-stop Rex Ryan-Mark Sanchez news.
I really hope get a big immediate impact player this upcoming draft… Chris Long is a little inconsistent, Jason Smith hasn’t stayed healthy Robert Quinn needs time to grow, and the Carriker-Tye Hill-Alex Barron three-headed monster doesn’t even need to be explained.
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Von Miller would look spectacular in horns...
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go be a broncos fan then
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
if you think brady is better the sam , go be a pats fan
if u think revis is better the harris go be a jets fan.
this site is a commie rams site , thinking the 2-7 rams are not the best bunch is punishable by stupid jokes lol. you guys are too happy , GO RAMS , GO TEBOW. down with spags (that must be your fav) u blind koolaid drinkers . goodnight
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meant too funny*
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by G unit Rams on Nov 17, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
I get what youre saying too, but Tebow > Bradford is just dumb
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If I called this game for the broncos they would have had way more points.
How hard is it to figure out that DUR TEBOW RUN WELL! Play to Tebow’s strength and give him run-pass options. This was a pitiful game.
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You know a game is bad after someone
who watched the 13-12 Rams-Browns game calls another game pitiful.
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by loyal2therams on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
No fuckin shit.
The fact that the offensive coordinator for the broncos could rub his two brain cells together and get a clue was amazing. I rather watch the bills V buffalo from a couple seasons ago. This game was amazingly boring. I didn’t know if it was great D or bad O. Bad offense is what I’m guessing at this point.
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Tebow does it again
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I shall be tebowing in my house for about an hour now.
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The thing is he is going to have one very short career if he keeps this up..
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Love me some Tebow
4-1 with 3 game winning drives. Its funny because you watch the game and you think god this guy can’t play at all in this league but when it comes down to it he makes plays and wins that defines a good QB in my opinion I’m excited to see him play well congrats to the broncos tonight
I leave for a little while and Tebow invades?
I admire his athleticism and the fact Fox has guts enough to fit the Denver O to him, but I agree with RAMphetamine. No way Tebow can take this kind of pounding or respond when NFL coaches start game planning him.
Speaking of pounding Sanchez was on his back more then a 5 dollar whore.
I agree though. When Tebow is figured out he better adapt fast. If he throws like he has been then he is in trouble. What I don’t understand though is why don’t teams do what tampa did with vick back in the day when it comes to containing running QB’s. Brooks would just play spy and make limit their running room and force them to pass. Not every Linebacker is a derrick brooks but I just don’t understand it. Also how do the jets not adjust on that last drive. There was like what 8 plays on that drive and 7 of them were tebow running. Put two and two together guys.
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Obviously you enforce the law and stability here doug.
I see more Tebow on the horizon so get your six shooter and lynchin rope ready.
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I guess the Tebow worshipers will forget how good the D played
And whoever said Tebow is better than Sam are fucking delusional, he can’t throw worth shit, sooner or later his body will get worn out thanks to Ds putting hits one him, his throw isn’t even decent, he did good though I give him that.
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by RG31 on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Denver's D was amazing
The Secondary is old but still pretty good and von miller and dumerville coming off the edges is scary. Miller is DROY. No contest (unless of course Quinn starts really dominating and builds off of how well he has been doing recently.)
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Yea but you wont hear about that on ESPN..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh of course not. When tebow wasn't starter and before he was drafted ESPN bashed him because it attracts viewers just by talking about him.
Now that he’s winning they need to bash him while also worshiping the ground he walks on to get even more viewers. There for overshadowing the great job the broncos did on D even though they were facing the jets so it wasn’t the toughest of tests.
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True
I look at Tebow in all due respect as a glorified fullback..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
LARRY CSONKA! Well I have to go larry say hello to jim kiick for me.
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i met Czonka a couple years ago
he loves coming to Alaska for hunting and fishing
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Hey why all the Tebow hate?
The defense did their job and Tebow deliverd. They believe in Tebow and that they can win any game, that’s the biggest difference between the two teams. Bradford needs to win a game for the Rams.
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I'm not hating on tebow. Dilfer did what he needed too win to but I hate him because he had no talent at all.
Tebow is better then him but what I will say is that Tebow’s inaccuracy is killer. His style of play will only get him so far. It would take a Jesus miracle for him to get even an afc championship victory under his belt. 9/20 is no way to play QB in this league.
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Dilfer didn't win the way Tebow is winning though.
Who knows maybe Tebow can become successful, it’s easy to say nobody has won using his style, until someone does it.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
If the broncos go to the playoffs and their D can't keep up then the broncos will lose.
If tebow needs to throw a lot to get the team in the game or to win then there is no way they win with the way he’s playing.
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I guess we should also consider trading Sam for Vince
Because I think he has more wins than losses, GET THE DEAL DONE!
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:21 AM CST via mobile reply actions
You talking to me?
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
No just in general
And I was talking to the FO, VY is a “winner” so there for he’s better than Sam, so Argo we should get VY..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, but I can honestly say that if the Rams were in a similar situation
We would have lost though. I like Sam, but he’s been pissing me off this season.
.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Yea, called a sophomore slump
And switching systems, but hey most see that as an excuse so..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tebow?
He going through the same thing. But what does that have to do with him losing his accuracy? After game 3 or 4 the drop balls stopped, but he still regressed. You can blame the line, the WR’s, but at the end of the day it’s up to the QB to win.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
Ok I guess youre forgetting about
Tebows horrendous passing to try and prove a point. Put Tebow in a throw first offense and he would suck ass, he can not throw worth crap, or are we forgetting about this?
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That is why he is in a special system which is built to his liking.
Tebow as a passer is not as good a Bradford.
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That is my point
This offense is tailored around bradford, its McHoodys offense. If a offense was tailored around Bradford he would thrive to but his surroundings aren’t built for this offense. Shit wrs that can’t get separation for shit don’t belong in this system. Get hum some weapons that he can thrive with all all this bull about Tebow will go away, over glorified FB..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not seeing anything great from this system from Sam either.
Unless you call him throwing horrible passes to Lloyd, good.
I just don’t see the love about Bradford, he’s supposed to have all this “greatness”, but if anyone throws some criticism his way, it’s complete shit.
Let’s not forget Tebow looked good in Mcdaniels offense late in the season, and their WR’s aren’t any better than ours. Anybody that has watched Bradford play knows he’s not playing as well as he did last year.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
Yea because if great Qb shows
Greatness in their first two years. May I remind you of Favre and Peyton, both didn’t have great first and second years but I guess they’re just bums.
He has shown greatness this year when he throws a ball and it hits the wrs hands and they just drop it. May I remind you we were number 1 in drips and sacks? But hey its easier to bash than to see the light..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I saw the stats, I watched him play every snap for two years
I’m bashing him, by saying that he hasn’t show anything great? Okay, whatever makes you feel better.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
I think he did show greatness when he threw for 300 and 3 td's with 0 picks against Denver last season.
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Is that really greatness?
Denver didn’t have a good pass D last season. Tebow threw 300 yards against the Texans so it’s kinda the same thing
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
How about 300+
Against the Giants and Greenbay?
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why you say the Giants?
Their secondary was horrible, they adjusted though, and yeah he did good against the Packers.
Cam Newton also threw 400 yards against the Packers and 374 against the Bears. So he’s better than Bradford too.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
Cam Newton also has olsen and steve smith and a good O-line.
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But he's still a rookie.
I’m not saying he won’t develop, but I don’t see nothing from him this season, to say he will be great
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
This season yes Bradford has struggled but it's not all him.
If I get off my ass tomorrow I might just write an article.
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Of course it's not, but he hasn't been helping
It’s bad when I’m happy to see a perfectly thrown ball.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:08 AM CST up reply actions
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link
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If you truly believe this
I’m surprised. Bradford has made some great throws and showcased quite a bit of athleticism, and if you don’t see the promise in him, you gotta look a little closer.
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-Mark Twain
Not this season
I only remember one. if he did others they were before week 5
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, I'm more inclined toward T.Ram's view right now, but for a different reason
Sam is having Shoulder issues.
Shoulder issues? lol I have to hear this.
Doug you be missing great Ram Convos on twitter
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:16 AM CST up reply actions
Lots of debate.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not trying to be confrontational
but i literally went to nfl.com, st. louis rams highlights, looked for one with “pass” in the title, and got a video of a nice pass from bradford for a TD… there’s a lot of promise in this dude, and if you wanna hop on the “Bradford isn’t that good” bandwagon, feel free, but there’s proof out there of a promising QB if you wanna check. Maybe there’s a little “prisoner of the moment” going around on this board, with Tebow winning again, but i hope no one get’s the wrong idea about Bradford.
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-Mark Twain
Nah I been saying this since after the 49ers game last year
He could be good, but I don’t see this elite QB yet. Look at his last 2 touchdowns, One to Steven Jackson and the other to Lloyd. Both balls were under thrown. Plus the the inaccuracy this season.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
Ok
If you put your reservations in now, that’s fine. I won’t be doing that. I just saw you trying to disqualify Bradford’s good performances and qualify Tebow’s wins, which seemed lame. So if you wanna end on a ‘not yet’ I understand. Just some highlights I found, in 10 min. or so, of Bradford making good passes THIS season. Again feel free to say Bradford looks ‘good but not elite’, but there should be some accountability in the future.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8228dd9a/Gibson-34-yard-TD
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d82338748/Salas-19-yard-catch
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
I will admit if he becomes elite but look at this
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8240ee59/Fujita-picks-off-Bradford
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8240eb7d/Lloyd-7-yard-TD
I just don’t think he’s done much this season. I’m not saying he’s better Bradford
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:46 AM CST up reply actions
Haha good points
You think the panthers would be willing to trade? xD
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 1:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
When he was the first rookie in nfl history to do it then I think that is greatness.
He even did it against champ bailey and brian dawkins. Did the Texans have anyone like that last year?
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No dude thats not nothing great
Tebow could do that in his sleep..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that he isn't playing as well as last year.
And I am willing to accept the criticism like the fact that is play action is bad. That said Tebow does happen to have a decent O line with one of the best Tackles in the game and has a system he doesn’t have to work to fit into. What I’m saying is that Tebow is having is problems masked by his system. I might just write an article on the poor play of this rams team as a whole.
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From articles and comments
I just supposed it was all Sams fault haha
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Haha would be
Appropriate for this discussion..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 12:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sure, I'm nickpicking Sam
But he’s my franchise QB. He can’t throw good deep balls, he stares down his WR’s a lot, he lacks pocket pressence
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
Sam has thrown pretty good deep balls. Like what he did with clayton last year and DX against the chargers (last year as well)
He does stare down WR’s but that is something that can be worked on. As for pocket pressence I don’t get a chance to watch rams games that much so I couldn’t say.
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He does struggle in the pocket quite a bit
And what about that roll out against the ravens and strike to Gibson in the endzone..
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by RG31 on Nov 18, 2011 1:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bradford is pretty good when he rolls out of the pocket.
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How about his plays in the pocket?
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
Things I have not seen due to living in greenbay.
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I think the ankle is bothering him because I dont think I have seen too many rool outs since he came back.
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by mlkgandhiv2k on Nov 18, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
He did a few against the Browns
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
You an oddfuture fan?
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
Because I don't see how you get that out of what I said.
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Behind the Tebow mania I think a lot of people are forgetting the play of the defense.
They have consistently allowed more points when Orton was the starter. Other than the Raiders game they have allowed no more than 15 points in the wins.
When comparing Tebow and Bradford instead of looking at wins we have to look at the number of game winning or tying drives that both QBs had. Tebow is 2/2 and Sam is 1/3. I think a lot more people will be comfortable with Sam if he started to close those games.
I don’t even know what I wanted to say. But I hope someone gets what I’m saying
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I think T.Ram said what I wanted to say in far fewer words.
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by mlkgandhiv2k on Nov 18, 2011 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
I don’t think the Rams defense played horrible as the stats and people say. It’s just that, after awhile you just don’t think your offense can do it. The Broncos D knows that Tebow can win them the game in the 4th.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
Someone need to make a post about why we as fans are so insecure about praising other young QBs.
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I hope Tebow the best but I would like the rest of the Broncos team getting a little bit more attention.
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I ocmpletely agree with that.
My best friend who is a Broncos fan also says that. He actually is really high on Miller as he should be.
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by mlkgandhiv2k on Nov 18, 2011 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
Defense never really get's a good job
It’s a QB lead, and Tebow is gonna get all the hype
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
Can you guys honestly tell me that if the browns made that FG you have confidence that Sam would have led the team to a win?
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by mlkgandhiv2k on Nov 18, 2011 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
You know what. Yeah I would.
Would I have confidence in the O-line to hold up or the receivers to get separation is a different question but you didn’t ask that.
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I've seen enough missed throws and bad decisions by Sam that I don't have that confidence in this year's Sam.
I completely agree that Bradford has better QB potential than Tebow. But this year’s Bradford has not shown that to me. May be next year…sigh.
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by mlkgandhiv2k on Nov 18, 2011 1:00 AM CST up reply actions
Bradford this year is not as good as last year.
but driving against the browns in a 2 minute offense seems to me like he could do it.
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I'm not saying he won't be good
But I don’t like how people are just defending him so hard like he;s proving anything. I do think he will make a big leap next season
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:02 AM CST up reply actions
As do I but to praise tebow for mediocre performances and slam bradford for his seems to be quite odd.
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Because Sam wasn't mediocre
I expected way more than this, he is playing the same as he did week 17 last year.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
I expected more too. He is struggleing.
And while I am very dissapointed in him I don’t put it all on him.
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I haven't
I;m just going by what I see out of him, and what I expected would be fixed by now. I haven’t given up hope on him, but I think that when people see you talking bad about Sam they get all offensive.
It’s all good we want the Rams to be good
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
People defend what they believe in.
Some times that defending is irrational.
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I've been trying to put a post together regarding Sam. Just no time to get it done
I’m terrible at clipping vids.
I been wanting to do one on Billy D
Just been too lazy
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
Here's the summary
He can’t draft. The end.
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lol it's gonna be one defending him
For at least another year.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
Well you aren't doing a very good job when it comes to keeping the Tebow flood waters out of the city.
Lord save us.
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lol I never said he was a good or great QB
I also never said Bradford was bad.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
I think Elway would like a more conventional... Elway like QB.
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Living in Denver does that to people.
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True but the points you have brought up have been counterpointed.
Check mate.
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Just every other day we end up in debates
I got into a couple of debates with the Ramherd people and a few other Ram fans on Sam Bradford. Now Will kinda agrees with me after what he saw in the Browns game.
Then the 3 day talks about the F.Os should be fired. You should get on more.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:26 AM CST up reply actions
lol I understand it usually randomly happens.
I barely see you on twitter you be missing out.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
Well I got shit to do tomorrow so I will see you guys later.
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Where did you see the shoulder issues? I need a source or I'm gonna freak out.
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by mlkgandhiv2k on Nov 18, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
lol Just my opinion, nothing in the news. I've been studying his release compared to last year. and few other things.
Trying to get enough data to not make it sound like a crap article. I have a couple Orthopedic surgeons that think a “could” and I stress COULD be on to something.
I need to get these vids, and some shoulder diagrams together to help make my point.
If I’m right, it explains why he’s having trouble lofting passes, and getting more than a few blocked a the line by DLs
Idk Doug
I heard he had passes deflected in college, I know he had a lot last season. I think those are stare down issues. But didn’t he get hurt in the shoulder this season? You might be on to something
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
Do me a favor?
Go have a look at a few vids of Sam throwing the ball. Look at the angle of his arm at release. Then look at his release point this year. It looks about 20degrees lower and he’s releasing the ball at a half sidearm point
This caused by an impingment in the shoulder sometimes cause by post-op scar tissue. Painful as hell
In fact, the photo I used Monday night showed him in a position I know very well. His hand to his side in a pocket supporting his arm.
Hmmmmmm I'm liking the way you're thinking I will get right on it tomorrow.
I have class in the morning. Hmmmmmm it could be that arm hurting again from the college days.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
You want to help me write the article?
Done correctly, I know it will get picked up, or at least mentioned in a few media points
Yes sir, I won't be busy next week.
Email me what you need from me Doug you know I will help you.
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
No problem, night man
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by Tevin Broner on Nov 18, 2011 1:46 AM CST up reply actions
its all on spags
do you guys love spags or bradford more because its obvious whats going on but then again most TSTers dont have nothing but positive things to say about everything unless there busy making excuses, one has to go , i pick spags
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He has the ugliest looking throw i've ever seen
.. winds it up and let’s it go… must have a 1.5 second release or higher
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OK I’m late on this thread in which I’m not going to read all of the 257 remarks. All I want to say is that I now believe in Tim Tebow even though I hate saying that.
He will finish out the year (probably win the Super Bowl) and then start next year which by then all of the defenses will have figured him out (as stated by ESPN this morning). Of course I say that and Tebow will once again prove me wrong by getting more wins (once again as stated).
I am now going to join the Tebow cult, I’m hoping to recieve my robe via UPS by Monday. Instead of going to Cancun this winter I will go to Colorado up in the mountains and give thanks/sacrafice to the Tebow altar. Anyone here is free to join just send me a message and I will email you all of the details.
Thanks,
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Just a man who loves football
i believe
he is a tough old school guy, love that
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You guys talking about Sam its funny
he sucks this year , its true. it doesnt mean we hate him or think he will suck forever. but when u throw 4 tds and 4 ints thru 7 games , no matter what team you have your just a bad qb , you diehard Sam supporters are the ones that need to pull it back and stop making excuses for every little thing. and the funny thing is his potential wont really matter because if spags stays(and the ones that have excuses for sam also love to have excuses fo spags to stay) he will break his shoulder to little pieces. spags is in the process of ruining our franchise QB so sorry i look at denver and say awesome when i see a tough son of a gun winning games for a coach who makes a o around him not a o around his OC
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