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Rams Vs. Browns: Spagnuolo Spared As Rams Win A Stinker

CLEVELAND, OH - NOVEMBER 13: Head coach Steve Spagnuolo of the St. Louis Rams (L) and head coach Pat Shurmur of the Cleveland Browns talk before the game at Cleveland Browns Stadium on November 13, 2011 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Jason Miller/Getty Images)

The St. Louis Rams picked up their second win of the season in spite of a handful of key injuries, struggling play from Sam Bradford and another uninspired offensive performance. Nevertheless, a win is a win, and the Rams will take it. The win also staves off the reaper for Steve Spagnuolo, the Rams' embattled head coach, for at least another week. It was the first win of the season for Bradford. 

A few quick observations from the Rams' 13-12 win:

Defensive play slid a little in this game compared to their previous two outings. Injuries were a factor today. Losing safety Darian Stewart hurt, forcing Criag Dahl into the game. The Rams' backup safety hurt them in run support and gave up a 54-yard pass to Greg Little. Nevertheless, the defense managed to make key stops inside the red zone, with a little help from the Browns, and certainly did enough to give the Rams a chance to win the game. This group struggles with speed. 

Sam Bradford continues to struggle. His timing and accuracy were way off in this game. He was pressured some later in the game with starting left tackle Rodger Saffold leaving the game with a head injury. Bradford continues to show some toughness, shaking off a big hit to get back in the game after one play. He also has a nice connection with Brandon Lloyd, but with his timing and accuracy so far off, it failed to produce much in the second half of the game. This is the most concerning issue the Rams have right now, and I'm even more convinced after this game that the team made a huge mistake in not brining in a quarterbacks coach. 

Steven Jackson is the Rams' most valuable player. He ran with purpose today, and the coaching staff is clearly leaning on him right now. He topped the 100-yard mark for the third consecutive game. 

Special teams play was huge today, as you might have guessed since a botched field goal essentially handed the Rams the game. Stripping Josh Cribbs on a fourth quarter punt return helped the Rams hang on to the lead. Credit newly added linebacker David Nixon for the forced fumble. That turnover resulted in the game-winning field goal.

Head coach Steve Spagnuolo probably staved off a pink slip with the win, despite the ugly way in which it happened. At the very least, he can point to solid play from his defense. 

Ugly or not, the Rams did win on the road for the first time this season and the first time since week 13 last year. 

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It's just not fun and games unless the Rams get hurt..

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

seahawks and cards are winning

what in the hell is going on today

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 13, 2011 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

Come the 2012 draft

were gonna wish we lost this game.

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 4:39 PM CST reply actions  

not to mention the fact that this just delays the inevitable re: Spags and Co.

That is if Stan shows any balls.

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No... we wont..

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Happy we had the 2nd pick in 2009?

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

It going to be just like this year's draft.

There goes a QB, and another QB, then, before you can turn around, someone else takes a QB. There will be plenty of players available

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm all for anything that helps expedite the ouster of this awful regime,

if that means losing to the Browns,(or the rest of the games) so be it.

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

how so?

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

you're just giving-up for the season and sandbag?

that’s fucking dumb

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 13, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yiu dont mean to lose under any

Reason I don’t care if you don’t like the regime, its ignorance and just completely dumb. We as fans don’t deserve it and neither do these players, they should play their best every game, win lose or draw..

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 4:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ok, first off, I didn't say they should "sandbag" or throw games.

I just dont want this regime here next year. Period.
And the way this shit franchise has been run, 4-5 wins may be enough to keep them on for another wasted year.
You can have your 3 more meaningless wins.
I’ll take a fresh start with a more competent management,

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

me too, love wins

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 13, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

even if you knew that this same staff would be back?

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

hence, your sig

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

but, carry on mate.

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh?

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 5:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Teams in sports roll over all the time, so...

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

no they don't

the only time teams “roll over” is when they secured a playoff spot and bench the starters….and that’s not rolling over

Beating off the dog is never appropriate when we have company over...... I mean EVER!

by sergey606 on Nov 13, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless Bradford decides that he gives up and retires, I see no player in the top 5 right now that I can't live without

The only place I want to pick in this draft, unless there’s some crazy trade, is the 10-15 range again

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Floyd would be awesome in that range

Or either of the cbs

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 4:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Na we have way bigger problems than Rb

I would not support it..

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

SJ39 isn't going to be able to take the pounding much longer. A great RB is still the best way for Sam to have an effecting O

We can’t rely on guys like Caddy to stay healthy. I also think RBs are going to be at a premium next year. The draft may well be the cheapest way to fill a need, and free up money for FAs in other areas.

  Re-doing JL55’s contract this offseason is a priority too. I don’t want him to get anywhere near being an FA

by Douglas M on Nov 13, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes this is true

But I don’t think he will just automatically start declining after this season, he will still demand the respect from the D, I think we can hold off, we still need wr, cb and oline help way before Rb.

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 5:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Word on that!

1. I want SJ39’s HOF career to last as long as possible. If that means spelling him with a stud 1st-round pick to groom, so be it. No one could stop a combo like that.
2. If Laurinaitis is allowed to leave it will be the worst decision this franchise has made since Philips.

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

A piss poor passing game

with a QB that is calling the wrong protections and not on page with his WRs will stop a great 2 back system with 8 men in the box.

by richter122 on Nov 13, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

3 or 5 wins this year

will have us picking around 5th to 8th. That should place us perfectly for either Jeffery or Blackmon.

by Will not be defeated on Nov 13, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

You really think Kroenke would make a move before the end of the season? If so, there has to have been a rumble or two as to who would replace him?

  I hope McD isn’t going to be handed the reins if Spags goes. The game today showed he hasn’t really earned the chance to be a HC again

by Douglas M on Nov 13, 2011 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think changes during the season makes sense.

And I don’t want McD

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by nYcRaM on Nov 13, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he's on the hotseat.

That’s just haters hatin’. With all the injuries that’ve happened, he’s safe this year IMO.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Harris and UhOh for the year will be costly

Saffold and Stewart for any lengthy amount of time could be costlier

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Fan-Tas-Tic

If there is a football god…he is not happy and apparently a weekly sacrifice is not cutting it…

by QA-Ram on Nov 13, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

this game showed again why

spags and billy arent fit to run a team. same shit every game except this one the browns handed it to us so good bye trading that num 1 for a shit load of picks

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

The Rams aren't done winning so just quit b*tching

anyone who thinks the Colts aren’t picking #1 regardless is an idiot

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

well no shit now they will get it

but if u didnt think b4 this game that the rams had a good shot ur crazy.i am happy they won but after the game i just didnt feel shit cuz this game meant absolutely nothing. you guys would rather have a dollar today then a million in 2 weeks. ok sorry i guess that smart thinking.

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

well obviously you're kind of thinking is the reason the rams are where they are

if you really think a couple spots in the draft will make us better in the future then you gotta pay attention to more football. If players are groomed in losing environments, then they will never have what it takes to win in this league even if they are good. the best thing we can do to help our future is to win football games and gain confidence & a winning environment to our core young guys, not a couple spots in the draft. Also, the colts are determined for luck. they haven’t even been competitive in any games, so really no one had a chance besides them

by Loyalram4life on Nov 14, 2011 1:48 AM CST up reply actions  

That's true but.....

It does not excuse our coaches or front office….they need to be pink slipped or nuked…

by QA-Ram on Nov 13, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

nuked is the better choice lol

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You gonna bitch after a win too?

Really dude?

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry

the great performance out there against a bad team should have made me sooo happy. i will be great once we fire those d bags that let b gibson be our num 2 wr

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

nothing

except he helped put this team together but thats no big deal right

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Bradford is the eye opener for me

I know the injuries sustained are a major concern, but as terrible as it is to say, I almost expect something to happen to someone every week.

Maybe bradford’s timing and accuracy is off because of the injury, the new offense, his line, his receivers, etc. or a combo of the two. But is it a stretch to say that some of it is due to a possible small development of the bulger syndrome? I do agree though, get this guy a qb coach!

by mb44 on Nov 13, 2011 5:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

He showed guts and determination today

I care more about that than his stats..

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 5:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Wasn't able to actually watch the game

I’m not implying by any means that I’m ready to give up on him. I’m 100% pro bradford no matter what. I know he’s a tough guy and I admire that. I fully believe that he’s going to be the quarterback we all expect him to be.

The bulger syndrome was probably a bit too harsh at this point as sam’s toughness is definitely beyond what bulger ever had. That statement was just purely to think that maybe there are moments where his throws are affected by the fact he’s been sacked so much

by mb44 on Nov 13, 2011 5:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I honestly think...

A full offseason and training camp in the same consecutive offense with the same core players will do Sam Bradford wonders. This guy seems overwhelmed with all of the responsibilites he’s been thrown this season.

He wasn’t ready for them and it shows. That is why I want stability up top

by Bralidore on Nov 13, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it was the 40 mph winds?

Nah, couldn’t’ be that.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Sarcasm noted. But, Again, couldn't watch the game.

I wasn’t aware the winds were so bad. Just going by what was stated on this post. But, that definitely could’ve contributed.

by mb44 on Nov 13, 2011 5:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry

But these guys wouldn’t tell you something like that when they can instead bash the coaches or players.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

No apology necessary

I don’t post much, but I come on here quite often and see how people converse within the comments. I expect some form of passive aggressiveness eventually.

by mb44 on Nov 13, 2011 6:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You think that the 40 mph winds had to do with Sam's inaccuracy today?

And how bout instead of kissing SJ39’s ass like you always do, you remind us how his fumble cost us a minimum of 3 pts., possibly 7 pts.

But no, you’re gonna stick to your sacred cow of bashing Spags whenever possible.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

We'll find out next week at the EJD

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't wait bro-man.

Who do we got next week?

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Seahawks, who just so happen to be spanking the Ravens around

Hopefully its just their 11th man. I’m excited for the first game of this matchup

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

You sound like a Sh!thawk fan.

Sounds like you have a lot of respect for that team.

Watch your tone around here :) (j/k)

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

TAKE IT BACK!

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

No, you take it back first!

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha!

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 6:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

plus, I am a resident of Steeler Nation

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Here it is

http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1600&bih=728&tbm=isch&tbnid=gk2tLg2fl5G0bM:&imgrefurl=http://www.myspace.com/dwar13/photos/4118502&docid=JyyYmDjXTSfLRM&imgurl=http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/3cf34ebc41cc064199c420dd3d0a64fd/l.jpg&w=600&h=340&ei=wVvATpm6F6rV0QHDhcCVAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=207&sig=100235941401133625424&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=97&tbnw=171&start=0&ndsp=36&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0&tx=96&ty=45

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

the heck?! fine i'm posting it anyways

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

wow u will attack our best player

u sir are a moron

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't that happen?

Didn’t you see him cost us at least 3 points?

Oh, my bad, that was Spags’ fault right? He should have had SJ39 better prepared.

Everyone attacks everyone around here lately. I’m just calling a spade a spade.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

it did happen

but if you are going to defend a player that has flat out sucked most of the year (sam,who i like and want on the team) and then pick probably the only bad thing steven has done all year, thats just wrong but hey if you really think sj has cost us anything thats your opinion , i bet you think brandon gibson is a decent WR

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

One bad thing Steven's done all year?

HE HASN’T PLAYED ALL YEAR DUDE!!!

He’s had 3 good games out of 9 for us. How is that all year?

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

look at his stats , him getting hurt

makes you say that he has been bad. ok. so you think we would have won any games this year without him? i dont think we would have gotten a single td

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I know that had he come into camp in shape he would not have been injured in the first game of the year.

Right? That was a non-contact play he was injured on. And I saw him walking around just fine with that thigh-knot. How come he didn’t play?

You damn right that cost us games.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

wow this shows how much you know

no matter what condition injuries happen even fluke ones , if u been a rams fan for more then 5 sec you would know he is in great shape and always battles thru injuries. what the hell is wrong with u , seriously there is a ton of things to hate about the rams and you pick the one good thing.

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He didn't battle through that injury dude.

In fact I believe he said that he was being cautious with his injury. Hardly the words of a warrior, right?

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

you are stupid and a troll

go back to your own teams board. he fights thru injuries every single year. sorry that ur a good ol boy and dont like the guy go back to your dump and get off the computer

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Duuuhhhhhh you're a dummmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

I shoulda let you kill yourself a couple of weeks ago instead of talking you off the ledge.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

idk what that means

but i am sure u would be happy if i died ,i am going to cry now. get real you hate on ryan for speaking the truth and then bash SJ39 to show how dumb you are.WOW

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The truth is littered with perspective my friend.

I talked you off the ledge a couple of weeks ago when you said you have no reason to live cause the Rams suck. You were pretty drunk, so I don’t expect you to remember.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

i have hated the rams a lot

but i would rather get tortured for weeks then die for a dumb football team. shit but i guess you feel better if u think ur a internet hero lol

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

+1 million ,i been saying it since b4 the preseason

i caugth a lot of shit from ppl who were fooled by his practices and one lucky td pass , he is a practice player put him on the practice squad

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry dude, but Chris OgB coulda run through them holes.

And no, he didn’t single handedly win the game for us. But you’’re still allowed to like the dude. Hell, I like SJ39. But the way y’all been bitchin’ about this guy and that guy for one bad play here and there, I thought that mentioning this gaffe was was the responsible thing to.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok now you have just gone too far

this is crazy any human being who has passed the 2nd grade can see that the rams o has no holes , if steven is lucky he has 2 maybe at most once in a blue moon 3 big holes a game. and one play here and there really so sam has only sucked for a play here and there? b.gibson has only sucked here and there? dahl who i remember clearly given up 3 tds has only sucked here or there?. you sir dont watch rams games or have never touched the football field. for jackson to run his entire career with pathetic players that call themselves lineman its a disgrace that they are in the nfl.

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't understand 99% of what you said.

You should put the crack pipe down for awhile. But in response to your last comment, I never said he hasn’t been a great back for his entire career. I did suggest that he should not be treated as a sacred cow around here though, and I still believe that. He DID cost us 3 points today. Remember when Jason Smith false started a couple of weeks ago…too long ago to remember specifics… thereby taking us out of FG range and then everyone blamed him for the loss? Well how come nobody did that to Steven? And how come nobody blamed his injury in game one on his poor conditioning coming into camp? He was not there for his team for 5 of the first 6 games of the season. That’s a fact dude. But he was walking around just fine but he didn’t play. Furthermore, he was injured on a non-contact play, so it was caused by his poor conditioning. But nobody says shit like that about Steven.

So if people around here are gonna take the negative road about the Rams, the I will too. And Steven has been a failure this year so far. See what happens when he plays well? We win games, or are at least in them (last 3 weeks). He hasn’t stepped it up until recently and needs to be called on it.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 13, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure how you can bash SJAX

Yes he fumbled but its not like many players would have held on after that hit to the hands. Sam also cost us points on that interception that was his fault. Looking down the WRs and yet another ball batted at the line. Never seen so many balls batted at the line before Bradford came in. Regardless, I’m pro Bradford and we won. It is clear to see though that SJAX has carried this team since he’s been healthy and Feeley lead us to a better victory than Bradford.

by richter122 on Nov 13, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

You're misunderstanding the whole point.

Since about week 3, the staff here has been bashing everything that is Rams football. Yet they continue to lionize somebody who has missed almost two-thirds of the season. They look for every reason why we’re bad, especially Ryan, but they don’t point to SJ’s fumble as being a reason we nearly lost the game. In fact, that had every reason to do with the fact that we nearly lost the game. Furthermore, he tries to pin a mediocre game on Bradford’s lack of accuracy….in a game where the winds were 40 mph. That’s totally irresponsible. He’s letting his blinding hate of (today’s at least) Rams football: the coaches, the GM, the players, everything but Kroenke influence his journalism of late.

This place has been awesome for the past 2 years that I’ve been here. Awesome stories…seriously an insider’s view on everything Rams football. But it’s turned for the worse in recent months.

I challenge the editorial staff to do something about this. Try and find a silver lining, cause there’s always one in there.

Fact is we’ve won 2 of our last 3 games. That’s something to be happy about. But Ryan continues to post crap like this saying we’re lucky and this and that and the other thing.

So I got a warning this morning “DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT RYAN’S COMPLAINING.” Well, I’m complaining again. And I’m calling him out by name.

Y’all gonna kick me out of here for begging you to be positive? For begging you to try and find a silver lining? For begging you not to bash my Rams?

Go right ahead Ryan. You’ve gone from being an interesting, well-informed town crier to a reclusive, cynical just plain cry baby.

Grow up and start writing responsibly.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Finally, I changed my name a week or so ago from Shea Weber for President

To Pekka for Predator Pontiff. So I’m not a new guy coming here to troll on the Rams website. I have a track record here at TST.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

And if you wanna take this conversation offline, just email me.

If you can’’t access my email, then let me know and I’ll contact you.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

i am sure not one wants to have a offline convo with your stalker ass

so i can see you want to defend everyone on the rams but SJ and we like to do it the other way. i wonder why maybe because he is the only one who plays hard and good evey game.. fuck it your too wraped up in fantasy land. if u hate the writers here ,GTFO , i am sure no one will miss ya

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I"m not talking to you G unit. I'm talking to the management.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Ryans a good writer

and what he said was true we were lucky to win. i bet you were raised on the notion that all kids win no matter the score. Guess what the rams are bad and they proved in more today and we are happy they won but a little too late. are we supposed to jump for joy that we go to 2-7. just cuz ur a loser and likes losers (thats why u hate the only great player on this team) doesnt mean we cant make rational points. now go back to loving spags and his 10 – 31 record and gibson and his 10 drops and smith and his soft head. doesnt mean we have too

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

so the staff should try and be

a rams propaganda machine , we have plenty of that in the newspapers remember when they fed us that 2 te system or that we dont need speed we only need to stress a D , i think we got plenty of that bullshit propaganda , i bet during the irag war you said come on cnn say how the soldiers dieing is good news find a silver lining lol.

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

wow you are a freaking retard period

you said we bashed players who were only bad here or there. i pointed out they have been bad alot thats why they get bashed. your too stupid to understand , let me put it this way. if jordan misses a gamwinner you cant bash him because he makes so many that he has to be bad sometimes but when a bad player makes bad play after bad play you have a right to bash the guy because he is hurting the team a lot. SJ39 won the game for us today without him we wouldnt have moved the ball as much and since we won by one we would have lost. and now i know ur a troll because if you are a rams fan you know the man puts in overtime in teh offseason and he battles threw a lot of injuries. you are probably one of those morons who said he was done b4 the season and now feel like a complete dumbass when proven wrong. look at his STATS you imbecile and tell me he is having a bad season or hurting the team, better yet dont the numbers might confuse you

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by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty good first 6 games, wouldn't you say?

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

yes i would say

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey dude, I'm like so totally sure J Unitas threw a pick 6

We should ban him from the hall.

Really, name the greatest offensive player ever and he’s thrown an INT, or fumbled, or dropped a catch. One of the greatest DEs recobered a fumble and ran 99 yards THE WRONG WAY. Shit happens. You are still not going to find a better player as rare as they are.

by LARams1968 on Nov 13, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

+111111111

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 2:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Johnny U?

Really? See post above…you’re missing the point.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

u have no point

ur mad at this site for rightfully bashing ppl that continue to do the same bad things and they way you came up to battle that was to say SJ39 sucks , to somehow prove your point which is retarded to everyone but in your head you probably think its smart. you are too fucking stupid to insult

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Find me where I said SJ39 sucks.

I said he’s been a disappointment this year. And he has.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

no he hasnt put up stats that show it

cuz i wont waste time putting up the stats that show ur wayyyy off

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

so tell me who hasnt been a dissapointment

i want to see who you say isnt ,because you are the one crying about the site being too negative on the rams , who do you feel has been good this year that we are unrightfuly bashing. the exact thing that you are doing to SJ39 , who has this site done that too?

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmm.

Salas, Pettis, Quinn, some of them new corners, Stewart, Mikell, Leonidas, Lloyd, and that’s about it.

In particular, the two rookie WRs have been unnecessarily bashed.

Almost everyone has been a disappointment this year, including Jackson.

And I’m done with this thread….you win. I’m just trying to make a point and I"m confident I’ve done that, even if pinheads like you don’t get it.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 14, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

no one gets it

and all those ppl werent bashed , no one would bash JL55 or lloyd and the rookies were bashed(by me too ) when they sucked it was unfair cuz they were still learning but i didnt think they would get better , u are bashing a guy who is playing well and has everytime he has been on the field. bartell is out for the year should we hate him for being hurt , no we arent that dumb or that big off assholes. and i said who have we bashed that u are so pissy. cuz stewart mikell JL(not leonidas) lloyd werent bashed at all and i dont even think quinn was. yeh u do lose any one who hates on the teams best players always loses

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

J Unitas MY BE the best QB ever so I used him as an example

but that doesn’t matter. YOU pick YOUR greatest offensive player and look and see if he ever made a mistake? You don’t have to bother, though, HE DID! Even in his “prime”. They all do. The better the player is the more the good outweighs the bad. I’ll take a fumble from SJax. When was his last anyway? How many TDs, on a very bad tean, has he scored since his last? If SJax was on a good team you would be talking about how great he is not bashing him for one miscue.

by LARams1968 on Nov 15, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Bradford on Steven Jackson

"God. He’s running possessed right now. He’s running hard, he’s fast, he looks great."

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

SJ39 for president lol

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by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Steven Jackson for dictator. All hail Great Leader SJ!

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

first law under SJ

any RB that falls after first hit gets shot

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by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Has anybody noticed

That ray rice looks jus like donkey kong lol

by Ram_Redemption on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

i tackled ray rice 3 times in one game in HS

new rochelle vs mamaroneck

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by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

"Can Joe Flacco lead the Ravens to the Super Bowl?"

Gee, i dunno, but lets keep speculating and asking over and over until we know for fucking certain. Shut up!

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

Thwt question and

“Can tony Romo lead the cowboys to a superbowl” are the most annoying.

Ignorance is Bliss

by RG31 on Nov 13, 2011 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds like First Take topics

along with, of course, tebow.

by mb44 on Nov 13, 2011 6:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

With only 12 minutes to go, it appears the West is 4 and oh

Formerly JBaccSTL. Been losing sleep over Rams football since 1999.

by Joe Mazzi on Nov 13, 2011 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

So basically what I got from this game

is that we have to make a weekly sacrifice to finish a game

M-V-TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Upon hearing that the nfl lockout was over, I faced in the general direction of Seattle and gave them the finger. GO RAMS
Follow me at @Th3_Prophet

by Throw on Nov 13, 2011 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

Whats up with all the winers

Spags is a fine coach lucky to have him. I can name quite a few in the league I’m glad they’re not HC of the Rams and only HC iI would consider coaching St. Louis Lovie Smith

by Steven M. on Nov 13, 2011 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

glad you are happy with this team

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by G unit Rams on Nov 13, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I really don't have a problem with Spags football know-how. I do have a problem with his position coaching staff...

… and when all is said and done, it reflects back on Spags ability to manage, not only players, but the people responsible for getting this team ready to play in the NFL.

by Douglas M on Nov 13, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

spags is

frustrating because he does have some good qualities like his pressure and some of his d schemes but then he does some really bad in game decisions and roster decisions , i think if he had a great president like holgrim or someone he would be a lot better he needs someone to tell him who to keep on a team and then hold him accountable for his hardheaded approach to in game decisions.

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by G unit Rams on Nov 14, 2011 2:28 AM CST up reply actions  

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