2012 NFL Draft: Draft Andrew Luck, Trade Sam Bradford?

by Ryan Van Bibber on Oct 28, 2011 4:00 PM CDT in 2012 NFL Draft

Would the St. Louis Rams consider trading quarterback Sam Bradford if they got the chance to draft Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck? That's the question that was pitched by Mel Kiper who was helping ESPN fill a little air time recently. It sounds crazy, because it is. Could it actually happen? Would it make any sense?

I'll tell you now, as I write this, that I'm not even sure it's worth the couple hundred words I'm about to spill over it. Since I'm tired of trying to understand the mess on the field every week and there isn't much news, let's tackle the question.

Sando summed up the thinking behind this wild notion in a post today. Essentially, it hinges on the Rams getting the first overall pick in the draft and not being able to trade it. Seeing they have Sam Bradford, teams may call their bluff and just wait until the second pick to grab Luck. A possible regime change at Rams Park might be more open to the idea since a new coaching staff and front office would have no attachments to Sam Bradford, other than the gargantuan amounts of money they'll owe him. And speaking of money, Luck would cost half of what Bradford does thanks to the new rookie salary scale.

Trading Bradford would likely fetch a sizable bounty of draft picks as well, especially in a league where the ghost of Carson Palmer can garner a one and two...maybe. Based on Kevin Kolb and Carson Palmer's cost and performance, teams will be a little stingier with trades this year.

Of course, they could also draft Luck with the pick and trade him for a boatload of picks. If they did have the chance to trade the pick for Andrew Luck or Bradford, they'll get a much higher return for the pick.

Trading Bradford might not be as easy as it seems. That contract is not going to be attractive to teams who can pick a QB in the first round this year. They'd also be giving up on Bradford after one rough season, on that followed a rookie of the year campaign. Bradford has a subpar cast around him, and he's struggling to pick up a new offense and deal with the responsibilities of making his own protection calls. It's the sophomore slump that many predicted...and that I dismissed as chatter.

A coaching change could well be on the way, at least for the head coach. I still think McDaniels has a pretty good chance of sticking around given that Stan Kroenke supposedly pressed for his hire. Another year in the same system, with a full offseason to learn and hopefully, finally some talent around him, and we can reasonably expect Bradford to be a fine quarterback. You'll notice his accuracy and timing hasn't evaporated, nor has his will to play. Bradford was a selling point to hire McDaniels, and any new coach would be happy to have an experienced, capable quarterback to accelerate the franchise's turnaround.

Then again...if Andrew Luck really is as special as everyone says he is, it might be tough to leave him on the board. The Rams haven't had anything special in...um...uh...a long time. Kurt Warner was a superstar, but he was not Peyton Manning. Maybe he could have been had Mike Martz not seen him as easily replaceable, but things worked out the way they did. If Andrew Luck really is the second coming of Peyton Manning, it might be exactly what this franchise finally needs to sink deep roots with whatever city ends up having them come 2015.

At this point, I'd be pretty happy with Stanford's offensive line.

Let's get through the season, and revisit this discussion.

Poll

If the Rams get the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, should they draft Andrew Luck and trade Sam Bradford?

Yes

323 votes

No

738 votes

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Trade Bradford on to the Colts

Then he’ll get the weapons he needs..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

no way in hell i would trade bradford...

why bring in another qb and start another learning curve with a rookie? all this talk is getting old already. we rams fans should be more worried about, if the word did come out that they were feeling around the league for bradfords services, how would sam feel about all the chatter?

to want to trade a francise qb, after only 2 seasons, the shit he has to work with at wr, the shitty o-line, but its all bradfords fault? here we go again! you think sam would want to stick around with a franchise, and fanbase, who right away wants him to kick rocks, for a unproven qb, who hasnt even taken a pro snap?

by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 28, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Dude I agree with you

I was just playing around, luck won’t fo any better than Sam..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

oh no RG me and you already tried to make our points on this...

i just dont understand why they (experts?) would even want to bring that up…thank you mel kiper! kiper is all over lucks speedbag its not even funny! yes, we all know he is a very talented qb, but to right away put him alongside john elway? cmon now…luck has his cons. its just that the experts fail do adress them. he’s invincible.

by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 28, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Yea and the last Qb Kiper was all over was

A back up to Cam Newton, not the greatest track record..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

lol calm down

it wont happen. you and rg can sleep peacefully knowing sam wont get his feelings hurt lol

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Oct 29, 2011 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions

but if you really like sam

you would want him traded. it seems like billy and spags hate the kid gibson as his num 1 smith as his tackle.all joking aside. when he comes back and lloyd is there with clayton and smith hopefuly done for the year he might have a nice little second half

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Oct 29, 2011 4:48 AM CDT up reply actions

its called Brandon Lloyd bud

and if you dont consider him a #1 WR well idk what the hell you’d call him. So lets wait and see what he can do with him but we already know that Sam isnt a Favre already.

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 4:59 AM CDT up reply actions

really bud

did u not read the last sentence i wrote. thanks for saying what i already said. lol

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Oct 29, 2011 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions

And I said nothing about his feelings, trying to come up with stuff now?

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 29, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions

i think mark

said sam wont wanna stay here if we are tallking about trading him.

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Oct 29, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Bradford is a competitor

I don’t think that he would mope around feeling sorry for himself if he was being shopped. Hopefully it would piss him off enough to learn the offense and diagnose defensive schemes.
He really should be feeling sorry for himself with the likes of stone hands Kendricks on the offense but Lloyd should help.

by Mister T on Oct 28, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought Bradford was going to be the next Peyton Manning

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions

You must not have seen Peytons winning record

His first two years..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I mean I heard saying that he was going to be the next Manning

Nfl network or somewhere else. I don’t remember where exactly.

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Yea ive heard it also

Problem is with this line and wr play he can’t show his talents, so if they do trade him I hope they do to the Colts..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

hum, that would be interesting for him

And what about his shoulder?

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Wat about it?

That problem had been fixed..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Well, you know

An injury needing a surgery. A RB with a surgery on one of his knees, well, it doesn’t sound good.
A QB with the same thing on his shoulder and with already 3 injuries after only 6 weeks in his second season.

I like Bradford (except for some areas wher he needs to improve like protection calls, not holding on the ball too long, body language, leadership in the defeat…) but I’m wondering if his shoulder is gonna hold on during his entire career…

And I read here that someone who was watching the way he throws the ball, said that there is still some trouble with his shoulder and the way he throws the ball. I’m just wondering.

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

No Brees had the same surgery and hes fine

And I don’t think ive seen anything about him throwing the ball got to tell me where that’s at. He has to improve yes but ill place the blame more on his surroundings..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Alright

I just don’t know anything about repaired shoulders

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

As for his injuries

Put any Qb behind this line and they wouldn’t be doing any better.

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

that is true, easy one!

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

so true

by bigfoot2XLT on Oct 28, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

meaning...

Luck with the same line won’t do better.

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Pretty much..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

damn!!

Lot of work for whoever will be the HC or the GM next offseason.

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Yea, pretty much starting all over with

A qb you don’t know what hire going to get, whereas bradford we know he can be good with the right pieces around him..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 4:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Agreed the line and all the dropped passes is not helping him progress AT ALL

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by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

wow thats a big button

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by dbcouver on Oct 29, 2011 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions

well I can disagree there

Brady would do better

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:02 AM CDT up reply actions

not sure.

Spags as a DC made a great job in the superbowl and the giants won.

Brady has huge numbers because when you watch Patriots game, hell, when he snaps, he’d have the time to smoke a cigarette, take a coffee, read the newspaper and then throw the ball. And all that UNTOUCHED by the defenders.. That’s amazing!

by Misterthescot on Oct 29, 2011 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Being as nice as I can

you suck with that comment, you don’t have a fricking clue.

by OakCityRam on Oct 28, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions

bc of the twitter thing? ..yeah i failed on that..smh..

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by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions

who are ya talking to?

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions

@ OakCityRam You have to be the biggest doush on this sight, bar none

by Rammon105 on Oct 28, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't hold back

Tell us what’s really on your mind.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Oct 29, 2011 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions

pretty sure Peyton won a couple games his 2nd year :)

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions

I'd rather trade the pick and get more

If there were no takers we’d have to take a chance and pull the trigger on Luck though.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Oct 28, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions

that's what i think we should do if we're drafting number 1...if we cant trade the pick then pull the trigger on luck and hold him ransom (that makes sense somehow) for a bunch of picks

by bigfoot2XLT on Oct 28, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

incase teams called the bluff on the Rams actually drafting Luck..makes sense but I dont think teams would rely on that ‘bluff or no bluff’ and go ahead and make the trade for the pick just to be safe

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by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions

No takers? That's a far fetched idea, at this point IMO.

I think we’d have a few teams calling about our pick. It will be interesting to see the draft order and what teams are interested. I’m still saying we should draft a #1 WR for our first pick and jump back into rnd 1 for an OT to take over for Saffold.

by RamsFan1979 on Oct 28, 2011 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions

We should draft Luck ...

… and then trade Luck.

I think Luck himself is worth more than the first overall pick because there’s a ‘chance’ the Rams don’t draft Luck with the pick.

We aren’t drafting first overall though so this point is completely moot.

I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.

by Midasknight on Oct 28, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions

^^

but can you trade the players selected during the draft for picks in this same draft?

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes

I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.

by Midasknight on Oct 28, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Pick Luck then (with a willing partner) we can trade him for a ton of picks in this draft and future ones.

I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.

by Midasknight on Oct 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions

that would be a good idea if we can't trade before the draft.

But who knows… maybe we ain’t gonna be the worst team in football this season.

by Misterthescot on Oct 28, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah ..the scheduled is about to lighten up (hopefully) so as the season progresses hopefully all this ’Luck or Bradford" talk will die down after a W or two..hopefully that is..

Twitter: @JonHatesMilk

by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions

If we wound up with the #1 pick

We wouldn’t trade it before the pick was made minus probably 5 minutes at the most. The bidding wouldn’t end until then.

Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf

by dbcouver on Oct 28, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions

You bet

You will have a partner or partners bidding for Luck. A similar situation happened with Rivers and Manning. Eli didn’t want to play for the Chargers so the Chargers made a deal with NY and took Manning. NY took Rivers and they traded picks.

by MOOSERAM13 on Oct 28, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Luck has the same if not a higher upside than Bradford

so if we draft him… we need to find a team willing to dump Sams absurb contract bc that is honestly killing this team.(something many tend to overlook)

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:04 AM CDT up reply actions

The thing is I personally feel that trading Bradford would be a foolish thing to do he has

not been given any real chance. I believe that if given the chance he won’t just be a fair or good QB I think he’ll be great. I going to present a scene that I think could happen in a realistic manner. Here it is The ram’s do get first overall pick they decide to trade Bradford and get Luck because of the change in management and coaching they want a fresh QB and it makes financial sense and it doesn’t hurt that they got some great picks for him. So here they are with a new QB, Coach and management. The QB who is yet to be proven in the NFL struggles with learning MCD. system, and it turn’s out he is a mediocre qb at the NFL level and that it was the system that luck was in that made him look good and the hype helped propel him forward; mean while with the team that took Bradford he has already absorbed their system, has key players with skill to throw to and a line that can protect and he’s taking them to the play off’s with a good chance to go too the super bowel mean while the Rams are stuck with a mediocre QB and still struggling. Yeaaa that would be just great for you guy’s cause that would ensure the tradition of loosing would still continue.

by Freewheeler2 on Oct 28, 2011 4:28 PM CDT reply actions

Your scenario could happen

Though I think the Rams are already in the super bowel.

by Sundowner on Oct 28, 2011 4:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

lol..

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by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions

If you like Sam

let him go to the Redskins, cause he will never develop at the rams org.

by OakCityRam on Oct 28, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh you mean the overhype that Bradford had last season?

Bradford hasn’t shown much this season and he does now have multiple weapons when he gets back. BRANDON LLOYD AND MARK CLAYTON plus he has had a top 10 RB in SJAX, but still teams have 8 in the box against him but Sam hasnt done anything to have teams back off yet.

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions

If this scenario (rams with top pick) occurs...,

Then whoever stays in St Louis will be the better qb. Sam and Luck are the new Peyton and Brady. However, the Rams are going to be the Cowboys in the Herschell Walker Trade in the trade of either (getting so much for a player they don’t need) an will be able to build a dynasty.

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Oct 28, 2011 4:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

we forget king who will be drafting for the rams lol.

get a boatload of picks for luck, and only 1, or 2 would pan out!

by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 28, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Fact…lol smh

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by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Remember the Dickerson Trade

Didn’t the Rams front office screw up a bunch of the draft picks that they received in the Dickerson trade?

by Mister T on Oct 28, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Ha..watch Luck turn into yet another bust in the NFL…I think essentially give up on Bradford after this long is beyond stupid, shouldn’t even be a realistic option. If anything it would just back claims of poor drafting the Rams have shown in past years..

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by JonHatesMilk on Oct 28, 2011 4:53 PM CDT reply actions

Completely agree.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Oct 28, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Trade Luck keep Bradford

Get a 1st, 2nd, and 3th for this year and a 1st and a 3rd for next year for the number 1 pick

by ChrisL951 on Oct 28, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions

Kurt Warner is no Payton Manning?

He could have been had he had a decent O-Line in front of him and then not chased out of town by St. Louis fans. Oh well.

LA Rams, Sounds great!!!

by mascettid on Oct 28, 2011 5:30 PM CDT reply actions

yea Warner played great in New York? Oh wait no he sucked.

and then he went to play with a team with 2 freaks at WR in Anquan Boldin and Fitzgerald. This convo is over and I hate to bring it up as I love Warner, but you are wrong and Warner was not thte right choice at that time or for the next 5 years.

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions

He went 5-2 in NY before losing the 2 and Eli starting.

What was Eli’s record? 1-6. So to say Warner sucked in NY says more about your lack of knowledge than anything.

by RamsFan1979 on Oct 29, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

I have been a Rams fan since they moved to STL, but if they draft Luck and trade Bradford I am done...

That would be the stupidest move possible. Why would you trade a young franchise QB who has proven that he can play and be successful in this league for a guy who hasnt proven squat in the NFL? I dont even know why this is even a question? In my mind its simple, trade the pick keep Bradford. If this FO decides to gamble the future on Luck then i’m out. We would be out of a “win now” mode and be back to square one, building for the future. What happens when the next Luck comes around? Do we trade Luck and draft this “new guy” and restart building for the future? Would end up being the stupidest move in the history of the Rams. I personally dont even think Luck will pan out to be as great as many hope.

by jpcisco on Oct 28, 2011 5:38 PM CDT reply actions

Trade Bradford

Give the kid a chance to have a career, not live in Jinx land where everyone who steps on the field might suffer a torn ACL or neck.

by OakCityRam on Oct 28, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah ok now go smoke your crack pipe again

by Rammon105 on Oct 28, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions

As good as Bradford was last year

He was still way below average compared to the other 30 starting QB’s in a statiscal sense, you combine that with his crazy top 5 QB salary and you hope the new GM does investigate what he will retun because if you draft Luck you also open up a ton of cap space and the picks you get for Sam.

I was a QB who elevates the talent around him, Im not sure Sam can do that, I want a Newton like effect, he has led his team to 18 TD’s in half of a season while the Panthers with almost the same players on offense other than Olson and Shockey scored 16 Td’s all of last year, no that is a #1 pick making a huge impact

by Mike Dietrich on Oct 28, 2011 6:38 PM CDT reply actions

Well as a " talent evaluator" as you call yourself

Look at his system that he ran last year then look at what system newton is in. He was a rookie last year so I guess after 1 year you can just tell he won’t be good, people like you crack me up man..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 7:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

and you could get off Bradford's cock every once and while

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:12 AM CDT up reply actions

And you could try to see whats in front of your face....

…. Or keep being a douche, either way..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 29, 2011 4:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

+1

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:12 AM CDT up reply actions

Salary is too high to trade

Bradford received the last BIG salary for a rookie QB and trading him is not going to reap all that much. If the Rams are #1 then draft Luck and trade him or trade the draft rights for Luck. Bradford will improve greatly if there was a “franchise” WR and an offensive line that wasn’t a threat to his life…maybe a trade for Luck could reap that.

by BaldBilly on Oct 28, 2011 7:02 PM CDT reply actions

Funny

How people think just because you stick Luck with this poor ass surrounding cast that Sam has, it’ll automatically mean we start winning..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 7:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

did you forget bradford was a rookie last yr!

and still set rookie records, along with the rookie of the yr award. sam showed he can play in the league. as for newton, its pretty easy to just chuck passes up to wr’s steve smith, and whoever else they have.

by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 28, 2011 7:02 PM CDT reply actions

I remember when everyone on this sight was against trading for Steve Smith bc he was done

so now since he has Newton hes awesome again huh? Funny. When Sam gets back from injury and has Lloyd on the field I expect him to put up numbers. If not, then the problem is on Bradford b/c Orton could do it. Do you not agree?

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

you know...

all this heated debates about trading bradford has me asking one question to some of the so called fans on this site. ya im going to say it, but to wanting to trade a franchise qb after 2 seasons is baffling to me. so what? trade sam, bring in luck, the rams go 0-16, with luck in 2013, then what? the “oh…we should have kept bradford!…what were we thinking!” moaning and groaning will continue.

some of you fans? act like we drafted ryan leaf. its soo funny to me, seeing some fans here praising sam last yr, and so quick to sour on him, when the whole team went south. some of you need to get a freakin clue! i dont know really what else it would take for some of you to see, that sam bradford’s going to be a great qb in this league. he’s just taking his lumps like aikman, and manning did before him.

by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 28, 2011 7:09 PM CDT reply actions

if

We trade Bradford im going to be really mad. I understand the contract n all that but he’s the guy. He’s only 23 and his throws at time are unbelievable. Give him time to mature and he will be a hell of a qb

by markg1127 on Oct 28, 2011 7:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

like the throw to Brandon Gibson vs Baltimore

Tell me if Andrew Luck can do that

Slinging Sam...Man College announcers suck!

by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Oct 28, 2011 8:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

That was fucking beautiful

Like 3K said, there’s only a couple QBs in the NFL that could have done it..

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions

LETS BE HONEST HERE

Sam will never develop here, unless there is a QB coach and a whole new line and WR.

Slinging Sam...Man College announcers suck!

by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Oct 28, 2011 8:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

cant we just field a winning team?

The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!

by DevsLaRams on Oct 28, 2011 8:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

I realize no one here would wanna do it, but it's a possibility IMO:

Jerry Jones body language in his interviews tells you he is tiring of Romo. He has been said to be showing an affinity for the players from Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, so you know he’d love Sam. I could see the Cowboys (with their largely young team) packaging a deal with a couple high round picks to the Rams for Sam, then trading Romo to a really bad team to get back some of those picks. Sam has been continually compared to Troy Aikman, so you know Jones would love to have him

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Oct 28, 2011 9:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

My prediction is he gets traded

Near the draft or during the draft…Uh….Why do we waste talent?

Slinging Sam...Man College announcers suck!

by RAMSALLTHEWAY on Oct 28, 2011 10:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

How about this trade.

Trade Bradford for Miles Austin, Romo, Choice. two first rounders and 2 seconds. :). Then we could trade Romo to the Browns

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by Tevin Broner on Oct 28, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm thinking a 1,2,3 this draft and 1, and 3 that could be a 2

To the Rams, and maybe Felix Jones if Demarco keeps this up. Then the Cowboys trade Romo to a bad team to replace the picks they lost

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Oct 28, 2011 10:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Maybe two whole sets of 1s, 2s, and 3s

Note to Douglas M: Remember that 99% of what I say involves BS

by King Sam Rules! on Oct 28, 2011 10:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Id rather have Ogbo than Tashard not my 1st or 2nd Choice

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:17 AM CDT up reply actions

The problem with trading with the Cowboys is

each draft pick will be relatively low. Trading out of the first pick pretty much guarantees one extremely high pick (2nd, 3rd, etc.) and even possibly another one as I do not see Luck turning any bad team into an instant playoff contender.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly. It will give us the draft picks, but the location would suck.

We need to remain in the top 5 of the draft, anything else & we have to trade again, upward obviously, if we wanted one of the highly regarded WR’s. We need rnd 1 talent at WR & OT this draft. It really sucks we have to address OT again; we have so many other needs it’s just more crap piled on the team.

by RamsFan1979 on Oct 29, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

All this Luck and Bradford talk is boring.

I’d rather talk Blackmon or Jeffery

Is that great man formally known as Tevin T. Broner, also I'm on twitter T_bron

by Tevin Broner on Oct 28, 2011 10:34 PM CDT reply actions

Im actually in the process of doing a post

Over Jeffrey vs Blackmon.

Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!

by RG31 on Oct 28, 2011 10:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

If we were doing well.

this conversation wouldn’t come up. we knock sam about his play but it’s the whole team thats not playing good. the coaching staff also has done a crappy job, so don’t jump on the sam has done a crappy job wagon. blame the whole team for the failures its done, last year we couldn’t get enough of sam and his play and now their talking about trading him. gees dump all over him, but maybe if some of his receivers could catch the ball things would be different.

by crazy mike on Oct 28, 2011 11:22 PM CDT reply actions

but you cant argue that Sam hasnt played well

Its clearly on the coaching and the entire team but Sam is part of said team no?

by richter122 on Oct 29, 2011 5:18 AM CDT up reply actions

How can you argue Sam hasn't played well?

More times than not he has gotten the ball to the WR and the ball is dropped. He has not been perfect and yes his game needs improvement. He is learning and getting better, but as you said, it’s on the coaching. The QB coach should help Sam improve, but he is also the OC. If our WR’s caught more balls we wouldn’t be in the position. If the O line blocked better Sam would have more time. If the offense played more consistent our D wouldn’t suck so bad. If our D wasn’t on the field so much they wouldn’t be so tired. Many problems, but the coaches haven’t made the good decisions to help this team along.

by RamsFan1979 on Oct 29, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions

+1

by richter122 on Oct 30, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

It's a straight up disgrace

that 30% even voted yes. Ridiculous. This shouldn’t even be up for discussion in my honest opinion, but that’s just mine.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Oct 28, 2011 11:23 PM CDT reply actions

Totally agree

This makes me mad just reading the words “trade Bradford”…I don’t care if its Luck…it’d be stupid to trade him away and keep Luck. Hey just my opinion though too.

by Tyler Connell on Oct 29, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions

+1

by ThomasZ on Oct 29, 2011 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions

That's like when we traded Dickerson to the Colts

Who did we draft #1? That’s right Gaston Green himself… lol.

by RamsFan1979 on Oct 29, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions

+1

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by VTramsFan on Oct 30, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Saints fan here

Do not trade Sam Bradford. The guy is money and has a long career ahead of him. I would trade the pick or take Luck and trade him. You need draft picks and plenty of them. I don’t care if you haven’t won a game. I don’t think you are a bad team. Injuries have killed you this year.

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by AcquiredPanic on Oct 29, 2011 2:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

+1

by ThomasZ on Oct 29, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions

+1

by navybluenachos33 on Oct 29, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Jason Smith

I think once this season is over we need to get ride of him first asap. The guy is always injured and just isn’t worth even 1/3 of the money we pay him. We can definitely get atleast a 2nd and 3rd. Or just a 2nd round pick for him. Then I say we Draft Luck trade him to the Dolphins for Their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, next years 1st and 3rd, AND that OLB i think his last name is Wake? Draft Blackmon 1st round. Two Offensive lineman with those 2nd round picks from Smith and Luck. and the rest Defense.

by con d on Oct 29, 2011 8:47 AM CDT reply actions

Who's gonna give us a 3rd for him?

His resume is on film, it’s not like he can lie about his poor performance. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to trade him for as much as we can get, but reality says to cut him and part ways. One of many busts in the NFL.

by RamsFan1979 on Oct 29, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Smith is worth a 6th at most.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Oct 29, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Drafting Luck and Trading Bradford

This has subject is one of stupidest I have heard in quite some time.Why does every boob decide to think that a change in quarterback or being cheap is the answer to all that ills the team.If we had kept Bulger and drafted Bradford would have been better off.I am so sick and tired of hearing how the quarterback is at fault for all this.

by CGSuddeath on Oct 29, 2011 9:01 AM CDT reply actions