Get ready for it, because Bradford is a BUST...apparently.
by DaFranchiZe on Oct 2, 2011 11:35 PM CDT
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PrintThis is of course what will be said from now till next season unless by some miracle the Rams turn it around and Bradford isn't getting destroyed on a regular basis. I'm so disgusted in this team that I have literally stopped caring about football all together, Normally I can't wait till Saturday to get the weekend of football started but this year I just can't wait for the season to end.
Slowly but surely the "bust" comments are coming out and "David Carr" comparisons are joining them. As we all know by now Bradford is on pace to be sacked 72 times and in todays NFL the development of quarterbacks is so delicate that once a QB endures a season of total shit like this one they normally have a very tough time coming back and making significant progress. The hits, sacks and pressures are going to take their toll and eventually Bradford will get gun shy and start looking for the pressure instead of the receivers.I think we're seeing now as a matter of fact.
I think that is what is bothering me the most. The fact that this front office was so fucking blind to how you build around a young QB that it looks exactly like how the Texans built around Carr, by adding nothing of note on offense and just kept throwing mediocre players in as stop gap scrubs who can take over for a season. I have this sick feeling that Bradford will not live up to his draft status and the Rams will suffer 5 maybe 6 years of total crap and have to wait for the next high draft pick in which they may or may not get right.
Anyway, just be ready for the inevitable remarks, comments, articles, labels, headlines, jokes, i told you so's, etc. Because they have already started and it looks like it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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By the way
you guys should know I do NOT think Bradford is or will ever be a bust, but this front office has failed miserably in developing him. The lack of talent around him is so bad it’s laughable to sit and here and try to explain it. I really dislike this team, a lot.
Yes
The chances os Bradford becoming another Carr is definitely more than a possibility. And it’s a shame to think of all the things that have to take place in order to stop it from happening.
In my opinion in all starts with the FO and mainly Spagnuolo.
No matter who we have on the field on game day they should show a hell of a lot more resolve than they do. And be a hell of a lot more prepared to play.
I hope Bradford
doesn’t end up like Jim Everett with the “happy feet”.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Oct 2, 2011 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
Everett had "happy feet" in his days at Purdue.
88,89,90, he had excellent years throwing off of his back foot, off balance, often not setting his feet. I do have to admit that he never could climb out from under that 49ers Championship game in which he was punished over and over again. “The Phantom Sack” moniker didn’t help either. If you get hit 12-15 times in a game and you hear someone on your blindside yell “look out!” you may have a tendency to cover the ball and go down in an act of self preservation. Just saying, all it takes is one sack and the media to kill your confidence and the chances of that sack go up when you get killed all season long. Bradford is young and impressionable; once he gets gun-shy he may never be the same. On another note Warner was the master of getting hit in the chin to make a throw. That man had no fear at all.
Ron Paul 2012
There have been mistakes that Bradford has made such as the overthrow's and
maybe staring to long at the receiver he is going to throw too. There are some that say he is holding on to the ball to long and they’re right he is and Nick from Nick’s mail bag on the official Ram’s page was asked the same thing he stated that it’s because the play’s take time to develop that’s why he is holding onto the ball longer. Now the real problem with that is the play’s depend on the o-line being able to hold the line longer then normal. This o-line is not able to do that now some of it may be the protection call’s that Bradford is calling but not all of it. When his receivers do get open and he toss’s it to them they drop it few are the times they catch it.
That’s the issue that Sam has no receiver’s that can catch or get open and no real o-line to protect him.
im not making excuses for sam and sam bradford will be an elite qb in this league...
but when sam HAS to hold the ball longer than he has too, because he has to wait…and wait…and wait! till any of his wr’s/ te’s get open! thats the problem. look at the green bay gm, it was a thing of beauty! it was beautiful to watch. if sam had that 0-line, and man, those wr’s!
aaron just takes the ball from center, and has 3-4 options that are WIDE OPEN! wide open!!! sam? he takes the ball from center, and his line collapses on him in 2 sec. flat, hes looking desperatly downfield for anyone to get open. the -line is atrocious, wr’s, are just plain god awful, absolutly no protection for bradford, you saw the frustration on sams face numerous times yesterday, he was pissed!
so for people, jack ass’s to be putting the blame on bradford, and wanting andrew luck in next yrs draft…you haters are smoking ass hair, if you think luck would come into st. louis and magically turn this trainwreck around! hell, even the great peyton manning cant do it, so pls, give sam a fair shake, he has NOTHING to work with.
by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 3, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Not wide open all the time
Rodgers has great accuracy. I guess it’s about timing, reading coverages, etc… That’s not only about having good receivers.
Packers won the superbowl with their third receiver so i don’t think Rodgers needs very good receivers, he just needs players who can catch the damn ball.
About his protection, i guess he and his line can read opponents defenses better and so protect where it’s needed to protect.
And don’t forget that Rodgers is a QB who can run.. bradford is sitting in the pocket, waiting for someone to get open. Defenses know that, they know they just need to blitz again and again because when Bradford is locked in the pocket, he doesn’t have the speed to escape and run for TD’s like Rodgers does.
by Misterthescot on Oct 3, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
not only wr's? huh?
jennings, driver, and there te finley are pro-bowlers, so ya, there wr’s do get open all the time! jordy neslson stole the show in the big dance, but aaron rodgers rode jennings 9there #1 wr), TO the super bowl.
and for the record sam can scramble, but when your bookend tackles cant hold a block, and the middle of the line is caving in…where do expect sam to scramble?
“so i dont think rodgers needs good recievers, he just needs players to catch the damn ball”…“its about timing/reading coverage’s”…um…ok…do you honestly think sam has that luxury/ option here in st.louis? what gms have you been watching? do you think sam doesnt pray everyday for someone to catch A damn ball?
it works both ways, aaron rodgers is an elite, por-bowl, super bowl champion qb, why? he has wepons that help HIM! he even said that. i would love to see aaron throw to our wr’s! i would love to see that! he wouldnt last 1 gm without blowing a gasket!
by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 3, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a huge Jennings fan
wish he were a Ram.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Oct 3, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
If he does get labled as a "bust"
It’ll be some of the worst dismantling of talent that I’ve ever seen. It’s not like Bradford is lazy and doesn’t want to work because he does, it’s just his piss poor surroundings don’t want to help him out. His WRs are the worst in the league and the reason why his OLine seems to suck because different from last year they have to hold the defenders off til the play develops and they can’t do it. Different from last year where they just had to wait a couple of seconds and the ball was out. I think with another year they’ll have it down (i.e. Lions) or at least I hope so. These WRs on the other hand won’t and there’s only a couple so far that’s worth keeping after this year and that’s Pettis, Amendola and Clayton (if he can produce like last year) I said this on another post but if they don’t get Sam a true #1 then everybody should be fired..
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
If you recall though the Lions were on the way up last year
we are on the decline again. I believe it has to be coaching. Laurent Robinson just put up 116 yards last game alone. How is that possible?
That shit surprised me
thought my glasses were fucking up.
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
Was that Phantom Sack II that I saw yesterday
Bradford seemed like he sensed pressure and ducked when no one was there and then he got hit and gave up the fumble.
Our lack of pass blocking is going to turn Bradford into another Marc Bulger. Bulger was actually a probowl caliber quarterback but having defenses tee off on him all those years took a toll on him and cut his career short. Ill bet he hears footsteps when he is alone at night.
I get frustrated when I think about how exciting the Rams offense was during the preseason. What happened between now and then? I also get frustrated when I watch Tom Brady highlights as he does his statue impersonation right before he fires his strikes downfield. I’m curious to see how Sam would do behind THAT kind of protection.
I'm suffering from an extreme case of laurinaitis!
by NachoD on Oct 3, 2011 10:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Bulger was never a Pro Bowl QB.
He was a “Martz system” QB like Kitna, but worse. What was he 6’3’’ 190 with a noodle for an arm? And yeah, Belichic would have had this team in the playoffs last year with Sam standing tall in the pocket throwing to Moss or Holmes.
Ron Paul 2012
He was a Pro Bowl QB
And he was a Pro Bowl MVP
Remember the great 2004 and 2005 Rams teams...
by Marmie is the best on Oct 4, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah and the same people that vote for Pro Bowl players also vote for American Idol contestants more than they do for the president of The United States.
Rice made the Pro Bowl with an 800 yard season and every year multiple players get named to the PB that don’t deserve it. It is just a popularity contest; Vince Young was a Pro Bowl QB two times for god’s sake! Really, Vince Young? Bulger was a Martz robot and that is all.
Ron Paul 2012
Wow
Look up how the Pro Bowl voting actually works and get back to me, Everett (hint: it doesn’t work like baseball.) Maybe just check the facts before you keeping posting inaccuracies.
Remember the great 2004 and 2005 Rams teams...
by Marmie is the best on Oct 5, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
The fans make up a third of the vote.
The players and coaches face only 12 different teams in a 32 team league. You can’t argue that tons of players make it to the PB based on name only, like Rice, Marino, Vince Young and so on. Before they instituted the “one player from every team” rule it was even worse. Every year players with much better stats get left at home while the others go to Hawaii or what ever. It is based or should be based on that players personal performance and stats. Not the teams success or popularity. Ummm, and MLB is the same formula BTW. So know you stuff before talking smack.
Ron Paul 2012
if we ruin sam spags and billy's heads deserve to roll
and i’m talking french revolution style.
to destroy a qb like sam bradford will be the biggest football sin of all time, and is punishable by death (almost)
http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/
Great fanpost +1
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
I am also very worried about the Rams screwing up Sams development.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
I'm at a lost for words with this team.
I really am. I was so distraught by this fiasco that I e-mailed Matt Bowen, former Rams safety and now writer for National Football Post. I wrote him with a question on Bradford’s development and he didn’t answer the question. Instead he wrote back with “Yes, McDaniels and Bradford are clearly not on the same page”. I didn’t even ask if they were, so I assume that either Bowen does see it and didn’t want to hurt my feelings or he hasn’t watched at all which I have a hard time believing.
I’m disgusted in this team right now and one thing that I’m amazed about is that Bradford has only thrown 1 INT dispite being demolished every game. That in it of it self is something to be proud of. That means our franchise QB, despite being killed and having the worst supporting cast in the NFL, is still a badass who comes to play every single game during every single snap and has absolutely zero excuses for the failings of the team and himself.
I hate Spagnoulo and Devaney right now. I hate the offensive line and the receivers. I hate Stan Kroenke for not getting in the faces of the GM and coaching staff and demanding the of progression of this offense around Bradford.
How about this possibility
Bowen WAS talking about Bradford’s development. He thinks that McDaniels is screwing it up.
Remember the great 2004 and 2005 Rams teams...
by Marmie is the best on Oct 3, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
For all u idiots saying its sans fault.watch a game.he throws good balls most of the time.believe me the throws our receivers drop could ALL b potential tds.or at the least 1st downs. Now am I saying he isn’t to blame at all? No but to call this man a bust after just winning rookie of the year. Is crazy.these receivers gotta get it together. Maybe they should bring in.T.O And om not even kidding. Im dead ass serious
in reply to marmie...
Yes, I believe that is what Bowen was saying too.
McDaniels must be held accountable.
If he sees an O Line giving up 7 sacks why not revert to a 3 step drop offense? Why insist on killing the QB with these long routes down field if the O Line cannot protect for more than 1.5 seconds?
Yes McDaniels has it rough, but a lot of the offensive problems are of his own design.
http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/
2 of those sacks were on Bradford last game
but regardless 5 sacks in one game is horrendous. Please fix something out there. Our offensive line sucks. Plain and simple. We can’t even run on the goal line where we should be able to pound the ball in the end zone but even SJAX cant get in there after breaking 1-2 tackles in the backfield just to get to the line of scrimmage.
If this offense doesn't get on track
he will become the next David Carr. How could anyone blame him if he goes into a shell with the way he has been bombarded. I just dont understand how an oline with 2 high draft choices and 3 marquee free agents could be so overly out mached every single game
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by weekend_warrior55 on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions
Its not that Bradford is a bust but the team around Bradford sucks
soooo…in turn he will suck and since he is a 1st overall pick then the bust label will be in the mix…..but im with you he isn’t a bust…….the Rams just suck.
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Some blame is on Bradford and you cant dismiss that fact
He is hitting the sophomore wall a bit as he is overthrowing recievers more this year but the team around him is pitiful. A bust he is not but he isn’t a savior YET.
by richter122 on Oct 3, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dismiss that because the guy is willingly and literally getting the fuck beat out of him because
he is sacrificing himself to give his guys a chance to make a play on the ball and the rest of the offense is rewarding him with sacks and dropped passes. More often than not his throws are right on the damn hands and the pass is dropped. The missed throws are comming in late in the game where Sam is literally punch drunk.
This is where I take issue with our HC’s approach to fix the team. I agree mostly that you want to be positive and keep pointing out how to get better. But in the Rams situation if Steve Spagnolo says anything to the team, he better say this…“Your unwillingness to pay attention to detail and focus is going to put your quarterback who is laying it on the line for you ladies in the hospital!” “That is just a fact jack, get your head out of your asses!”
My time in the military taught me that. You want to be positive because it is the best motivator to maximize improvement. But when things slide backwards like this, you have to be truthful and honest and in your face with the guys that arent getting it done. That is just life.
- And here's the Rams' 2010 season in a series. Incomplete pass, 18-yard run, incomplete pass, 7-yard run, 5-yard pass, 3-yard run, sack, incomplete pass, punt. Shoot me. - 3K
Absolutely the best quote from a post I have seen thus far since I've been here.
…"Your unwillingness to pay attention to detail and focus is going to put your quarterback who is laying it on the line for you ladies in the hospital!" "That is just a fact jack, get your head out of your asses!"
I could not agree more.
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