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ST. LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 2:  Justin King #21 of the St. Louis Rams returns an interception against the Washington Redskins at the Edward Jones Dome on October 2, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri.  The Redskins beat the Rams 17-10.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

 

 Since the subject of the day seems to be "Trade", it made me think of Rams players and their individual value on the NFL market. The obvious "High value" players are Sam BradfordJames Laurinaitis, and Chris Long. These top three are followed closely by Steven Jackson and, more than likely, a health Danny AmendolaQuintin Mikell retains his preseason value. After these six players, there are injured players like Bartell and Bradley, who have value that is vague at this point. Rodger Safford holds a median value at this point, due to his current "sophmore slump".Jason Smith has been mentioned as trade-able, but unless a playoff contender is in desperate need of a lukewarm body at offensive tackle, the cost to benefit ratio is very low. A playoff bound team won't let a wide receiver go for him if they envision a stretch run inside tough divisions. As much as I'm disappointed by Smith's play, available replacements for him would make trading him for a draft pick in the 6th or 7th round range less attractive.

  There is a steep drop off after the aforementioned players. Some may think Hendricks has earned an innate value to date, but as a rookie with a sub-par performance so far this season, I doubt he holds his original second round appraisal. Brandon Gibson may garner interest from teams with marginal #2 or #3 WRs, but it would be a stretch to think anyone would extend anything above a 6th or 7th round pick on a player who has never done anything of true remark. The vast number of "One Year Contract Wonders" hold no value at all, due to their availability at season's end. 

Star-divide

 

So let's all play General Manager for a moment, and appraise what assets you have to put on the trading block, and their absolute base price to let one go to another team. The first thing I'd do is establish my "Don't even think about it" list. My top player list that can't be touched is : Bradford, Laurinaitis, Long, Safford, Mikell, Kendricks. A team has to have a core, and these are mine as of now. Jackson would make my list if he had two or three fewer years, and miles, on him.

  Some of you may be shocked that Danny Amendola doesn't make my core group? I've been, and will continue to be, a strong supporter and fan of Amendola. But I've come to believe if Sam Bradford is going to step up, he needs to take the training wheels off at some point. I think Sam checks down too quickly to his "Danny Amendola comfort zone". Just my opinion, but take the option away, and Sam will have to think in a different way. He needs to not "run home" to the three or four yard pass as much as he does. He needs his thinking paradigm to expand to reach the next level. Yes, Danny would no doubt be a star on another team, but we have to decide what kind of team we want going forward. Passes beyond the 8 yard range has to become the norm and rule, not completions for completions sake. In fact, if I could have Sam read anything I've ever written about the Rams, it would be these last 6 sentences.

 

  So what are your core players? Who would you trade and what would you want in return, whether player or draft pick? Show me the GM in you and what you'd really do!

Poll
Excluding Sam Bradford, Chris Long and James Laurinaitis, which player holds the highest "Keeper" value?
Steven Jackson
98 votes
Danny Amendola
23 votes
Quintin Mikell
27 votes
Lance Kendricks
8 votes
Robert Quinn
89 votes
Harvey dahl
21 votes

266 votes | Poll has closed

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If I were the GM, ie Billy D

I’d trade myself for a bag of peanuts and a six-pack and let someone else run the team. Speaking of “playing” GM, imagine if the FO devised a fan appreciation scheme in which they let fans, using some sort of media site (TST!!!), make the picks real time via fan-vote. That would be awesome!

by mcihaelT on Oct 14, 2011 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Smith and King for

a brown bag to put over my face.

If anyone cares what I have to say on Twitter: @Sergey_Konyshev

by sergey606 on Oct 14, 2011 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure i follow your logic.

So you’re soft advocating trading Amendola because Sam Bradford throws to him too much?

Another way of stating it is: Sam Bradford constantly throws to the only wide receiver who can catch?

Bradford has a “Danny Amendola comfort zone” because Amendola consistently catches the ball – a rarity for Rams WR’s. I can’t get behind trading the only WR with talent. I’d be more interesting in procuring a few wide receivers who can catch, which would in turn build Bradford’s confidence and allow the “Danny Amendola comfort zone” to dissipate a bit.

Ask the Dolphins how they feel about trading Welker.

by jaileer on Oct 14, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

lol I'm not advocating trading Danny. My point is if the Rams are going to look forward, who has the most value, and what possible benefit can be seen by letting a player go

  The comfort zone thing has to be considered. Wrong or right, examining the team for problems and solutions needs a broad scope. It took all I could muster to write that about Danny, as I’m a well documented fan of his.

by Douglas M on Oct 14, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shop Steven Jackson

Team owes it to him. Dont think there is much of a market for him, but you would like to see the guy be successful before the wheels fall off. Organization cant cling to a 30 something back after this year and will have to look to get younger at position fast.

by TexasRam on Oct 14, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

and replace him with whom? The only thing the team owes Jackson is a paycheck. A large one.

by jaileer on Oct 14, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

no kidding

he’s been a trooper.

If anyone cares what I have to say on Twitter: @Sergey_Konyshev

by sergey606 on Oct 14, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

we won't get Reggie Wayne

Billy will fuck-up and get John Wayne or Lil Wayne.

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by sergey606 on Oct 14, 2011 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha,

tries to send Craig Dahl to Indy for Reggie Wayne, ends up trading Harvey Dahl for Lil Wayne.

"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.

"Warner never took over games."

Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.

by douchiedude on Oct 14, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha, exactly

If anyone cares what I have to say on Twitter: @Sergey_Konyshev

by sergey606 on Oct 14, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep......

Devaney will trade Robert Quinn and future considerations for Lil Wayne and Johnny Mathis!

by RamTeaPartier on Oct 14, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

4th round pick + Injured Mike

for Lloyd :]

My thoughts...

1. Rams need legitimate receiver[s].
2. It annoys the hell out of me when I see Spags clapping after bad plays.
3. Billy Bajema and Justin King need to get the boot.
4. Hoom is injury prone. Hist talent means nothing if he's not on the field. Needs to be replaced.
More to come...

by Horcrux7 on Oct 14, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I was the GM I would have traded S.J. when he held out a few years ago

and replaced him with D.McFaden or Cris Jonson , S.J. had full value at that time and we would now have a Top 5 running back that is young and would have loaded up with the trade from S.J. Now the ship has sailed ,you have to act when its time to act ,you don’t just pick a moment and say let me see what I can get for this old man,but reality is we have B.Devaney as our GM and it dose not get any worst then that

by Rammon105 on Oct 14, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Show me the GM in you and what you'd really do

 I would actively seek to acquire Lloyd. A search for a new HC an OC would begin in earnest. I would place Rob Ryan at the top of my HC list. If Ryan accepted the position, I would seek out Rod Woodson for the DC position. Since the GM and HC must be on one accord , I would certainly confer with Ryan about staff that could get this team on the right track. Another move would be to seek out teams that would have an interest in a veteran RB. I would look to the draft for a feature RB. My choice s would be either Lamar Miller or Christine Michael. I would start looking for ways to acquire more draft picks to fill the needs on defense. I would focus on speed for both offense and defense. Continue to look for vets to man the offensive line.

by ValdezY on Oct 14, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Good post!

My thoughts as a GM would be various and sundry. Thinking of next year, I’d have to question whether or not Ron Bartell will ever play again. He’s not a real young guy and busted neck vertebrae are about as bad as it gets. I’d have to realize too that I’m overpaying Jason Smith, Chris Long, Steven Jackson and probably Sam Bradford for the return I’m getting in performance. But none of these guys are likely to appreciate that fact. Next I’ve got to question the rationality of thinking that Sims-Walker or Gibson can be legitimate #2 receivers. I need a real #1 guy and for Clayton to fully recover and be my #2 guy with Alexander able to take some reps. SW’s only on a 1-year contract. He’d be gone. Gibson would go for whatever I could get for him. And it may be time to trade Amendola. I don’t think he’s really that much like Wes Welker after all. But he could stay as #3. I’d have to see what Kendricks, Salas and Pettis can do over the next 12 games. Michael Hoomhohowevertheheckyaspellit is too delicate to play pro ball. He’s gone. And yep, it’s time to draft a new high-powered RB. Cadillac and Norwood are 2011 players only. Finally, it looks like I’ve got to build my new offensive line around Saffold, Dahl and maybe Goldberg. Jason Brown is looking bad for the 2nd year in a row. That’s very disappointing because on paper Smith, Bell, Brown, Dahl and Saffold look quite powerful.

On defense Robbins (age) and Gibson (talent) need to be replaced. Hall can’t be too far behind due to age. Bannan’s got 12 more games to show something. So with Long and Quinn on each end, it’s essential to get a strong DT. That could make for a very decent defensive line with Laurenitis right behind them. Leber and Poppinga have not yet improved the OLB woes that hurt the Rams all last year. The CB situation has already been talked to death. Mikell gives us at least one quality safety.

I don’t want theGM job.

by StephenStrange on Oct 14, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

As it stands S.J. is worth more on the team at this time then to trade him

there is no value in a S.J. trade at this point in his carrier,best move for Devaney would be to hire Dick Vermiel as the GM, hire John Gruden as the HC, and then do us the biggest favor and resign,

by Rammon105 on Oct 14, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

GM for hire........

New head coach and man responsible for the draft = Chris Petersen
Obtain Brandon Lloyd for a 4th round draft pick and sign him for a 2/3 year extension.
In free agency push hard for a #1 receiver. I like Dwayne Bowe. Also consider Garcon.
Also must sign a CB. Maybe Rashean Mathis.
Draft 1rst round – Kalil if available and consensus is Smith will get Sam killed or if already taken Claiborne or Dre Kirkpatrick.
Draft 2nd round – Pick contingent on 1rst rounder and whether players are available. Some of these will go late first round. If Kalil taken 1rst opt for Ta’amu, Thompson, Gilmore, Minnefield, TJ McDonald or either of the Sooner Lewis’s. If Claiborne or Kirpatrick taken 1rst round, you can add DeCastro or Petersen may love his guy Nate Potter.
Draft 3rd round – Polk or Gray at RB
Draft 4th round turns into Brandon Lloyd.
Draft Rounds 5-7 counting on Chris Petersen to find some gems.
Next year O-Line will have Saffold and either Kalil or Smith with a cattle prod. WR’s will be Lloyd, Bowe (with fingers crossed), Amendola, Pettis, Salas, DX and Gibson. Let em fight it out for playing time but strong practice and preseason players don’t count. They gotta perform actual games which will send all the current Rams other than Amendola down the depth charts.
Although Kalil is tempting and I have seen enough of DeCastro to know he is legit, I think the defense needs too much help. The Rams need a starting DT, one or two starting OLB’s, one or two starting CB’s and possibly a starting safety. Drafting what hopefully will turn into a starting CB in the 1rst or 2nd round is paramount IMO. They are just too hard to find in trade or free agency.
So, exercizing my GM wand your new Rams are WR’s Brandon Lloyd and Dwayne Bowe, your new CB’s are Morris Claiborne and maybe a free agent safety (Michael Griffen?), your new starting DT is either Ta’Amu or Brandon Thompson and your understudy to SJax is Polk or Gray. Hopefully there is money and talent to sign a free agent O-tackle and OLB as well. Chris Petersen is your new spiritual leader and he brings with him authority over player personnel. 3k or Van Bibber can hold the title of GM.

by RamTeaPartier on Oct 14, 2011 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Whoops...

forgot about Clayton coming back. If he is healthy he is a keeper. Out with DX, Gibson or Salas.

by RamTeaPartier on Oct 14, 2011 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Quinn!!

as a first round pick he’s an untradeable.

Steven holds little value to anyone but us. Why we should keep him and he should retire a Ram :D

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by Infemous on Oct 14, 2011 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

If I were Billy Devaney...

I’d realize my tendency toward abject failure and quit now before Stan breaks down my office door to kick me in the nuts and fire me as he’s leaving the office.

by Guitpik on Oct 15, 2011 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

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