Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford And The QB Class Of 2010
The Denver Broncos made Tim Tebow their starting quarterback. Tebow replaced Kyle Orton at half time this week, after Orton continued to struggle. Today, John Fox made it official. What exactly does this have to do with the St. Louis Rams? Nothing specific, but history has saddled these Rams with Tebow, for the time being at least.
Tebow owes his NFL career to none other than Josh McDaniels, then the head coach of the Broncos and Tebow's biggest advocate. It's fair to wonder whether or not Tebow would have been a first-round pick without McDaniels, who convinced the team to trade a second-, third- and fourth-round pick for Baltimore's 25th pick in the first round of the 2010 NFL Draft. Tebow would have been drafted, but it might have been by a team who fancied him as a tight end/H-back type. Hell, when it looked like Tebow was the odd man out in Denver back in August, I openly wondered about the possibility of a potential reunion with McDaniels.
Sam Bradford is forever tied to Tebow thanks to the 2010 NFL Draft. Bradford and Tebow were the only quarterbacks selected in the first round. Just out of curiosity, let's look at the performance of those two quarterbacks.
Tebow started the last three games of the season last year, after McDaniels had been canned by the Broncos ironically enough. Here's a chart comparing the rookie quarterbacks who started over the last three weeks of the season, with at least two starts.
| Passing | |||||||||||||||
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| Rk | Player | Tm | G | W | L | T | Cmp | Att | Yds | TD | Int | ||||
| 1 | Stephen McGee | DAL | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 22 | 44 | 50.0% | 238 | 2 | 0 | 81.4 | 5.41 | 6.32 |
| 2 | Tim Tebow | DEN | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 40 | 81 | 49.4% | 651 | 4 | 3 | 77.8 | 8.04 | 7.36 |
| 3 | Jimmy Clausen | CAR | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 42 | 75 | 56.0% | 395 | 2 | 2 | 68.5 | 5.27 | 4.60 |
| 4 | John Skelton | CRD | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 42 | 83 | 50.6% | 471 | 2 | 2 | 65.9 | 5.67 | 5.07 |
| 5 | Sam Bradford | RAM | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 68 | 116 | 58.6% | 628 | 1 | 3 | 65.6 | 5.41 | 4.42 |
| 6 | Joe Webb | MIN | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 52 | 84 | 61.9% | 469 | 0 | 3 | 62.1 | 5.58 | 3.98 |
| 7 | Colt McCoy | CLE | 3 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 54 | 95 | 56.8% | 601 | 3 | 6 | 60.0 | 6.33 | 4.12 |
It's sorted by default QB rating, which I mostly ignore. Bradford and the Rams played pretty poorly in those last three games of the season, except for a week 16 win over the 49ers. The Rams' rookie's accuracy was much better than his first-round counterpart, but notice the difference in yards per attempt. Tebow also had more touchdowns than Bradford. Tebow also rushed for 199 yards on 31 attempts in those three games, scoring one rushing touchdown in each of them. One thing to note is that Tebow did have better receivers than the Rams; beyond that, his stats look pretty good compared to Bradford's.
And what about this year? Obviously, has only had two quarters of play and a handful of rushing attempts so far, so there isn't much to compare. The following chart is for all second-year quarterbacks that have seen playing time this season.
| Games | Passing | |||||||||||||||||
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| Rk | Player | Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Yds | TD | Int | Sk | SkYds | ||||||
| 1 | Colt McCoy | 2011 | CLE | 4 | 4 | 100 | 172 | 58.1% | 984 | 6 | 3 | 78.7 | 6 | 5.72 | 36 | 5.63 | 5.24 | 246.0 |
| 2 | Curtis Painter | 2011 | IND | 3 | 3 | 33 | 68 | 48.5% | 618 | 4 | 0 | 100.0 | 5 | 9.09 | 34 | 10.26 | 9.10 | 206.0 |
| 3 | Sam Bradford | 2011 | STL | 4 | 4 | 75 | 151 | 49.7% | 849 | 3 | 1 | 70.8 | 18 | 5.62 | 116 | 5.72 | 4.43 | 212.3 |
| 4 | Tim Tebow | 2011 | DEN | 3 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 40.0% | 79 | 1 | 0 | 101.7 | 0 | 7.90 | 0 | 9.90 | 9.90 | 26.3 |
Colt McCoy is the best of the bunch right now. He's learning a somewhat new offensive system, but one more geared to his strengths. What stands out the most about Bradford's performance are the sacks. That's a brutal number, both in the sacks total and the yards lost. Notice his yards per attempt number hasn't changed much from those last three games, partly the result of the talent around him. More than anything, this an indictment of the Rams rather than Bradford. The decision to eschew free agent wide receiver Sidney Rice seems like a big whiff in hindsight.
Tebow comparisons get back into the picture starting in week seven, after Denver's bye. Hopefully, the Rams can take steps to improve, and Bradford can shake off some of his own rust. It'll be interesting to watch quarterbacks from the 2010 rookie class, with an eye toward those two first rounders.
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That Tebow, he's just a winner
He’s got it. He’s got more moxie than most players have in their foot. He’s a good kid. He can get it done.
I AM GOING INTO TEBOW TROLLMODE TODAY DUE TO THE INFINITE AMOUNT OF IDIOCY FLOODING MY CONTENT STREAMS
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i dont know what it is about this kid i just couldnt stand....
at his tenure in florida, i dont know if was his made for movies “rah…rah” rants on the sidelines to pump his players up? or his lifetime movie script speeches…(cmon, they actually put “the speech” on a plaque on the front of the gator stadium! give me a freakin break!). ’no one is going to work harder than me..know one is going to show more heart than me!"…(hold on…..RAAAALF!!!).
its that kind of crap that i couldnt stand, the whole “goody goody” im the good boy demeanor he puts on. im not saying thats a bad thing, but cmon, ive seen jehovahs witnessess’ do more bad things than this choir boy!!
by Mark Jaramillo on Oct 11, 2011 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
The problem is Tebow is a very polorizing player either you worship the
ground he walks on and treat him like a god or you hate him. I am not even kidding about the worshiping him thing if you’ll notice everyone that knows him and is a fan of his act like cult fanatics god forbid you have anything bad to say about him they’ll rip you apart. I think they believe he can do no wrong literally. You speak to anyone who has been around him and they’ll tell you he is a great guy. The public mask he wear’s is that of the saint he never get’s angry, feeds the homeless, reads the bible, never cuss’s, he’s perfect in football, he has a beautiful girlfriend and he cares for everyone and everything why he is a saint and he’s almost to good to be true. The problem is that if anyone takes as much pain’s as he does to appear great and kind in public is usually the opposite in private.
this always makes me laugh

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by Tackle Box on Oct 11, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sam is getting lots of on the job training
He gets it, regardless of what people are saying on here, Sam is not the problem. I have seen Tom Brady play absolutely horrible when he is getting pressured and sacked all game. He makes bad decisions, overthrows and throws interceptions. I don’t believe our team would be much better with Brady playing QB. I am not sure what McDaniels is doing tho with offensive play calls. I was so stoked to have Mickey and this is turning out to be a nightmare. I can see some comparisions with Martz’s system and Mickey’s but at least Martz has adapted his play calls in an effort to keep Cutler alive. Mickey has yet to adapt and call some shorter plays, or adjust routes to slow down the pressures. I think people have been giving to much credit to Cutler for the quick hits he did against the Lions when everyone knows for a fact that Martz is in his ear prior to the play telling him what to do. Supporting my claim about Mickey is this link, I’m kinda disappointed after reading it. In particular the last paragraph. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/stl/report
SJax is still a beast! Best RB in the league!
by MyACLisBrittle on Oct 11, 2011 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
The inference here, of course, being that Tebow may have been a better choice, right? At #1 overall? Great trolling article, keep up the good work.
yeah because the guy who busts his ass putting up posts all day and runs the site is a troll
keep up the solid commenting
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by Josh Wehrle on Oct 11, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What jumps out to me is
Colt McCoy and that we could have drafted Suh and got McCoy in the second. Just saying.
LA Rams, Sounds great!!!
by mascettid on Oct 11, 2011 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yea your right I absolutly agree with you then perhaps McCoy would be the one in the dirt
alot and Sam would be tearing it up on a different team that has talent at receiver and o-line instead of eating dirt for dinner
by Freewheeler2 on Oct 11, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Feely would be the one in the dirt.
McCoy would be on the sideline in street clothes rehab’ing his injuries. He couldn’t have taken the hits Sam’s taken and stayed in, or only missed a few snaps.
Tebow
It is un-American to root against Tebow. Anybody who doesn’t like Tebow must be a Communist. Tebow will be exciting to watch but he won’t have the career that Bradford will have. Hopefully McDaniels has figured something out over the bye week. He needs to go more no huddle offense, designed roll outs, screens and mix up the dropback pattern otherwise Bradford is going to be the next Marc Bulger. He is definitely tougher than Bulger but he is getting happy feet and losing accuracy as a result of the pass rush.
"Time Tebow owes his career to Josh McDaniels"
WRONG.
HE owes it to ESPN and every butt licking hack who ever said he was worth a damn in the NFL.
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PS.
I don’t see how anyone can see McCoys and think he’d be viable as a Ram.
I mean if there was anything from the Browns I’d want, it’d be Joe Thomas, then it’d be Joe Haden.
You give Sam SOME time, like maybe 4 seconds once in a while? and you’ll see an elite QB.
Right now he’s too busy picking himself off the floor to be exuding anything amazing.
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