NFL Draft notes - early college open thread
by 3k on Oct 1, 2011 10:01 AM CDT
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PrintI like October. It has nothing to do with Halloween, or the fact it's Filipino-American History Month. It damn sure has nothing to do with Leif Erikson Day. I like football because it's a football month.
Sure, many would argue it belongs to baseball, and to players like Mr. October, Reggie Jackson, or (and if any non-Rangers fans recognize him as such, I'd be shocked) Señor Octubre, Juan Gonzalez. But come on. Baseball gets July, the dog days of summer. It's fall now, and that's football's season. Sorry, stickball.
The action starts in college football today with some prime scouting in the Texas A&M-Arkansas game at Jerryworld (it's not in my watchlist for this week, but I did have A&M in week 4 if you want my take on their prospects). For Rams fans, the WRs in this game should be the focus, especially with mocks already sending Alshon Jeffrey to St. Louis with the hypothetical first overall pick (h/t MTD).
On the Aggies' side, there's Jeff Fuller and Ryan Swope. In the aforementioned mock, Fuller slips into the 1st round to San Diego; should he drop to the second and the Rams go after a CB or DT in the first, Fuller would certainly be in play in the second I would think. Arkansas isn't without talent at wideout. Greg Childs certainly has the frame of a top wide receiver, but he's been used sparingly as he is coming off a serious knee injury from last year (he also missed the Troy game two weeks ago due to the passing of his grandmother, it should be noted). He needs to bounce back off a lackluster performance against CB Dre Kirkpatrick and a stiff Alabama defense. keep an eye on junior Hogs WR Cobi Hamilton. Interestingly enough, there are two redshirt sophomore offensive linemen on Arkansas who could figure into the Rams' plans: C Travis Swanson and G Alvin Bailey.
That should get us to the second slate of games. What are you watching for today? What positions or prospects will you be paying extra attention to today? Let's get it on.
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DT, cause it is a position of value in the 2nd
CB is a big need. But we get Murphy and (please God) Bartell back for next year. I’ll wait for Claiborne next year in the 1st (if needed). Of course, if that need is filled by the returning guys, then we get Lattimore. Put Jeffery and Lattimore together with a competent qb and you rule the world.
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 10:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
CB looks like a big need right now but when we get bartell and murphy back it wont be nearly as high on the list
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Yep, plus CB is not nearly as deep a position of value as DT is
Top tier Corners are awesome, but they usually don’t tend to be all that helpful the farther down in the draft you get
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 11:05 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i feel like RB should be on that list since we don't have the youngest backs in the NFL...
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CB without a doubt
Holy Crap have ya seen how bad they’ve gotten burned this year?
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
Only one that has gotten burned is King.
Fletcher is holding his own on the other side, but because King is so over matched it makes all our CBs look bad
alshon is nasty man
he would make a awesome impact if he fell to us in the draft. god i’m already talking about the draft comn rams get me some wins lol.
by keeperskillz24 on Oct 1, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea it would be awesome if we got him
And he would immediately make his presence know and make an impact. Him in the first would make it a good draft for me, watching WC right now to see how he does.
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
by RG31 on Oct 1, 2011 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You mean SC
I’m not aware of any West Carolina
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 5:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea retarded Auto Correct
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
by RG31 on Oct 1, 2011 5:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Prospects
Christine Michael looks impressive; nice run for a TD. Tannehill is displaying his running ability again. THOUGHTS: CB Casey Hayward of Vanderbilt has 4 int’s so far this year. He had a great game matched up against Alshon Jefferey. He had 2 INT’s and a pass defended. He is a tough and aggressive corner. I would also like The Rams to take a look at former Gator CB Janoris Jenkins who now plays for Northern Alabama. While at Florida he matched up with some of the WR’s in the SEC and fared very well. These WR include Alshon Jefferey, Julio Jones, and A.J. Green.
OLB should highest priority
We need to put better players next to Animal Jr, if we can get an outstanding OLB core it would make our CBs much better
+1
I’m not too impressed with Leber and Poppinga. Our Run D is still pathetic. Our young DTs are still developing – hopefully we see a big leap this season – and as other have said our CB situation is bad because of injuries. I do think a good OT is something Devaney will probably be looking at. Really it looks like we’re in the same place as last couple seasons with lots of holes to fill.
But the season’s young. We’ll see who can step up and grow this season.
by Fullerton Rams Fan on Oct 1, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
WR
Kendall Wright is playing for Baylor today agianst Kansas St. He would be a consideration as a slot guy. He is physical for being 5’10 and 190 lbs. Stephen Hill may be an additional weapon with his size and speed. The Georgia Tech WR had 6 catches for a 151 yards against North Carolina.
I'm having a hard time picking any of those
as my 1st choice.
I noticed you didn’t put RB anywhere in the selection process. Don’t worry, you don’t have to explain again about the value of that position in the 1st round…I get it.
Because of the recent poor play in our secondary CB or S would seem to be an obvious choice. And I’m almost tempted to go with anything on the OL, again, because of the piss poor play in last Sundays game.
But I would have to say either OLB or DT, because we’ve been in the market for so long.
Let’s face it, it really all depends on where we pick, what’s available and hope our illustrious brain trust doesn’t see fit to pick another TE.
RB Lamar Miller for Miami
May be available in the third or fourth rounds. He picks up the blitz extremely well.
Other RB's
Cameron Marshall for Arizona St,Christine Michael for Texas A&M have both been solid this year.
On a long pass from Tannehill
Jeff Fuller made a pitiful effort to compete for the ball and gave up the interception. The ball may have been a little underthrown, but he just let the defender make the catch while standing behind and watching.
LB's
Ronnell Lewis has done a nice job as a DE for the Sooners, but he is a much better LB. He is a force. He may fall to The Rams. LB Danny Trevathan played very well against Florida last week. He got an INT and rocked the Gator QB Brantley. He has two sacks and and a FF on the season. The kid is fast.
Sean Spence
Another talented LB from The U. Speed and aggression.
Spence is a beast,
I’d like that pick.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Jeff Fuller
Even though Fuller made that error; I have to give credit to the DB great play.
It was good man coverage on an underthrown attempt
but even if he isn’t going to make the grab, at least stop the interception. He just waited for DB to make the INT and made a tackle. It was weak.
Reading those descriptions for the poll makes me feel terrible about our future of the team. We have so many holes…
He is getting well looked after by his O line
but when he does meet a tackler, he is bumping off the first one up almost everytime.
The MLB keeps biting on the play action
which is unexplainable given the Razorbacks have a grand total of 28 yards rushing!
It looks as if I was wrong about Jeff Fuller
He seems like a big possession guy more than anything else. His intensity at times seems almost non existent. I thought that he was better than he has shown.
Yeah
he has looked flat all season tbh, swope is tearing it up tho.
They said
he’s been hurt since the start of the season. At least that’s what they said in their opener.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Swope has looked good all season.
That kid Plugard the WR for Arizona St has had some nice moments.
His sister
was the head cheerleader for Oregon lol, sooo hot.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I thought that was her.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Oct 1, 2011 4:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ROBERT WOODS
IS THE TRUTH. Allz I ask for my birthday is for USC to dominate today :’)
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
If Robert Woods is the truth
Then what is Barkley? The Fact
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 2:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I DON'T KNOW,
but TJ McDonald is the truth on defense what upppp.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
McDonald Is A Talent
He can play both SS and FS
Yup,
perfect fit for this defense, interchangeable. Having a good day.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Wow, this is incredible.
Is anyone in California watching this USC game? Woods’ ability after the catch is so amazing.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
USC not filling the coliseum like they used to.
Looks like about 2/3s capacity for today.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Oct 1, 2011 4:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not surprised.
Just like any other LA team, it’s full when they’re good. If I had money and lived in LA, I’d be going every week shiiit.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Damn!
Look at Alshon!
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
by RG31 on Oct 1, 2011 3:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I know right
I swear I want him in a Rams uni next season.
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
by RG31 on Oct 1, 2011 3:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We need him and Lattimore
Combine the two with a qb like Sam, and the NFL bows down before you.
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 3:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And pick up
Robert Woods to play across from Alshon Jeffery the next year ;). That would be a real sick duo though, got the big guy wide right and Woods wide left.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Yea but he'll most likely go in the 1st
So saying we get Alshon ( I would run a mile ) we would most likely have to pull a Lions move and move up into the late 1st and get him which I’m not opposed it…
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
by RG31 on Oct 1, 2011 3:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Alshon is going early,
top 10. And Lattimore isn’t until 2012 sadly.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Oh yea my bad
Then that would be fuckin awesome, get Alshon this year and Lattimore next year, that’s a scary though… For the opposing team lol
Sam Bradford + Alshon Jeffery = All other teams are screwed!!
by RG31 on Oct 1, 2011 3:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No two more complete players in the country then AJ and ML
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 3:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Trent Richardson.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Considering that Lattimore is younger, and already on par (if not better)
I’ll go with him
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 5:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I still think
Trent is the most complete offensive player in the nation. Alshon’s lack of top speed puts him behind Richardson IMO.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Funny, that list looks just like last year with CB and S added
The way it’s looking, last years draft was a stinker… I’m thinking the Salas pick could have been a defensive pick… and I don’t see much else other than Kendricks who hasn’t stepped up so far.
Neeeds at:
WR (still exists)
OLB (still exists)
DT (still exists)
OT (regressed)
DT (still exists)
CB (regressed)
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yes it was
A stinker that is.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Oct 1, 2011 4:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Also the Gilyard pick
… too bad he couldn’t have panned out. That could have been our WR need…
Of course, hindset is 20/20
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Crazy (extremely crazy) idea
But how bout Melvin Ingram in the 2nd. He plays DE, but he is 6’2" and 276, it wouldn’t be that hard to put on the extra weight and move in to DT. Plus, then our base defense would be kinda like having the 3 DE set that Spags I’d known for using (this is under the assumption that my dream we replace Spags is not realized)
by King Sam Rules! on Oct 1, 2011 4:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
pac-12 officiating
Consistent in their shittiness.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
by dbcouver on Oct 1, 2011 4:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yup lol.
Two sideline interference calls, the hell?! Haha and on USC’s personal foul call, there was no explanation, no player number, no replay. They’re weird!
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Ohio State could play until Monday
and they still could wont score. O line getting manhandled. WR getting no seperation & the QB couldn’t hit a barn door with a pass. They have been so bad it isn’t even funny.
I can’t wait for it to be over.
1rst round select either......
Alshon or Dre Kirkpatrick and with the 2nd round pick I would be pleased with either Woods, TJ McDonald, David DeCastro or either of the Lewis Boys from Soonerland. Lane Kiffin for all those who drink his koolaid believes Woods is the best receiver in the country.
Now David DeCastro
is a true, mean RT.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
Woods is a true sophomore though,
so one more year. I want that guy like no other. 255 yards and personally responsible as a decoy for every other passing yard lol.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
VT vs Clemson
Jayron Hosley is shutting down whoever he covers and has a pick. David Wilson is showing some real promise as a workhorse back. Please Devaney, make it happen :)
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
Wilson is carrying 2 or 3 200-240 lb football players
on every play
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
-Mark Twain
New thread up, peeps
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The only thing that matters is building around Bradford!
all I want is for the Rams to literally use their first 3 picks of the next 2 drafts surrounding Bradford with whatever he needs. The Lions used 3 straight 1st rounders on offensive players and 2 of them they moved back into the 1st to get 2 more offensive weapons. Thats what I want.
I want Jeffrey in the 1st, I want Cordy Glenn in the 2nd to play LG, I want LaMichael James in the 3rd, in 2013 I want Marcus Lattimore and then I want D.J. Fluker or Seantrell Henderson in the 2nd or move back up to get him and in the 3rd the fastest player on the board.
I want offensive players, I don’t want to sit here thinking about how boring our offense is next year because we took a CB and a LB in the 2nd while Bradford is sitting there throwing to the same garbage and handing the ball off to a 29 year old back who will be beaten to death while a RT can’t get out of his own way. Sorry, but if you draft a QB #1 overall and just sit on him and not literally dedicate 3 drafts towards him then you’re wasting him and he will bust due to lack of talent around him.
Seantrel Henderson
ain’t gonna be worth a 2nd round pick at all.. Athleticism out the roof, idiot in the head.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
"Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
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