Requiem for a bittersweet season that ended badly...
by RamChop on Jan 2, 2011 11:22 PM CST
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Ok. Seven wins is a heckuva lot better than one. But this whole season has been one of constant ups and downs. I absolutely hate that we had to end it in such sorry fashion to a team as lousy as Seattle. These clowns had lost 7 of 9 only beating the Cards and Panthers. Now they've lost 7 of 10, add us in there as victims too.
The Seahawks scored enough points on the 1st drive to win the game. The other 54 minutes of football was just pure trash - virtually unbearable to watch. We were embarassed (on national TV) by a lousy, lousy team playing their 2nd string QB and with their best O-Lineman hurting.
When we had connected on two FG's to score 6 points, versus two TD's for 14, I knew it was over. Our favorite scores to lose by are 6 and 13, respectively. It's bad karma. Check me out on it.
Now comes the blame game. We've already had the molasses for winning 7 games, now it's time to take sulphur for losing 9 games. Everybody will be on the Spag's bandwagon cause he's now 8-24 over 2 full seasons. Not the Chopper. IMHO, Spags is responsible for losing at least 2 games (and probably more) by (1) retaining Pat Shurmur, (2) making inane decisions at critical times, (3) poor clock management, and (4) compiling the weekly roster of active players. I won't even get into the subject of wasted draft picks like Null, Murphy, no-brain Gilyard, Davis, etc. And, we didn't beat a good team all year. Nope, no high fives for you coach.
Now for the hall of shame players. Laurent (the Invisible Man) Robinson and nearly ALL our other receivers, Kevin Dockery, Adam Goldberg, ALL our OLB's, Mike Karney, our b/u RB's. You guys through your dropped passes, missed tackles, poor blocking helped kill us in at least 4-5 ball games we shoulda won, e.g. Arizona, Oakland, Tampa and SF. Win only one of these games, and it doesn't matter that we were embarassed Sunday nite by Seattle. If I were Coach, and not fired myself, you'd all be getting train tickets tomorrow AM.
And now for the few real players that got us to 7-9. You were by no means perfect, but you played with skill and heart even in the vacuum of poor coaching and play-calling and while being surrounded by nematodes like those in the aformentioned paragraph; Sam, SJax, Amendola, Saffold, JL, Long, Jones, Bartell, Atogwe, Robbins, Hall, Clayton and a very few others. Thank you gentlemen.
In sum, we ended up being a group of overachievers that almost backed into a division title thanks to playing in the worst division, having one of the easiest schedules in the NFL, and through the outstanding efforts of a select few players (and certainly not coaches). Especially a rookie QB that had NO ONE to throw to this year except Clayton and Amendola. You'll be back better than ever Sam and maybe even with a receiver or two that can catch a ball laid right into his hands. On the other hand, I do have sympathy for SJax. You've been ridden hard and put up wet for 7 seasons with nothing to show for it except some individual records. Why a guy with your talent was only given 11-12 rushes in Seattle is inconceivable. I know you are as sick to your gut as I am to mine.
Finally, people should not think we're a shoe in to win 10 games next year. Our schedule will be tougher, SJax will be a year older, and we won't be drafting 1st overall in 2011. We also have to dump a boatload of suckhole players and find credible replacements.
I figure the Saints will beat the Seahawks about 41-7 next Saturday. There's not really much more to say until the 2011 draft.
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Good post Choppa
I hve to wonder about Spags tho, is it him that is conservative or Shurmur? In the Eagles Offense, McNabb looked great, and Westbrook was utlized above his potential. For some reason, I do not wholeheartedly believe this falls squarely on Shurmur now.
3rd season next year Spags. Vermeil was on the hot seat n his 3rd season too.
Just my opinion
But only Shurmur is on the hot seat. Spags virtually assured himself a 4th season by drafting Bradford last year. If the Rams finish anywhere above 5 wins next year, they won’t make a coaching change next year.
They might make an O coordinator change though because a lot of guys can run the West Coast. So Shurmur will be the sacrifical lamb.
Coaches are not given 5 years to make a go of it in the NFL anymore pal.
Ref Singletary, Mora, Zorn, Mangini, Phillips, the clown from Denver, etc. Childress was one INT away from the SB last year. Like it or not, Spags is 8-24 over 2 full seasons. If we do worse next year he’ll be outta there like crap thru a goose and deservedly so. IMHO, he’s trying to be a DC versus a HC and totally relying on someone as inept as Shurmur to run the entire offense. They may be blood brothers, and if so, both will go down. I have a LONG memory that reminds me Spags and co. blew at least 2-3 games last year with idiotic decisions/play-calling/poor clock management, i.e. Wash, Jax, and Houston. And, I believe poor coaching helped lose the Cards, Oakland, Tampa, SF and SEATTLE games this year.
We haven’t beat a single good team in 2 full seasons.
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
S. Jackson 11 45 0 13
is kinda inexcusable for a star running back, especially when he started making 10 yds/play. Play action doesn’t work unless they know you’re running whenever you get the chance.
Seems to me like Shurmur out-thinking himself yet again.
THIS year's the year. I hope....
Big fucking surprise
When we had connected on two FG’s to score 6 points, versus two TD’s for 14, I knew it was over. Our favorite scores to lose by are 6 and 13, respectively. It’s bad karma. Check me out on it.
It has nothing to do with karma… it has to do with the fact that teams don’t win games when they score 13 fucking points. So well no shit we lose when we fail to get more than one TD
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
It's simply a fact Jack, look over the whole season.
Whenever we’ve started out scoring two FG’s we lost. And, our favorite scores to lose by are ANYTHING to 6 or 13. Many teams win games by scoring 13 points, i.e., 13-3, 13-7, 13-10. It happens all the time.
of course it's a fact
Teams with 6 points not counting Rams: 0-9 (.000 WP)
Rams: 0-2
Teams with 13 points not counting Rams: 6-15 (.286 WP)
Rams: 0-3
This has nothing to do with karma as I said. Teams always lose when they score 6 and lose almost 3/4 of the time when they score 13 – at least in this season. Considering they scored 13 less than 4 times makes it hard to say they were unlucky or “karma-related”
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 3, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
And if I included the Rams it would make it worse
I should have too considering they make the numbers a bit more stable (with the simple philoshophy that more trials = more accuracy)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 3, 2011 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
The point that I have NOT been able to make is that when the RAMS start out by scoring 2 FG's, i.e. 6 points they generally lose regardless of the final score.
Two FG’s is simply bad luck for us. Go all the way back to the 2003 Divisional Game against Carolina for another example. Conversely, if we start out scoring 3, 7, 10 or 14 points we have a fair shot at winning. Even 9 points works, if its a TD and a safety.
This thread reminds me..
Of a sideline reporter asking a college coach down by 21 if his team needs to score more in the second half.
Agreed on your Hall of Shame
you probably could have expanded it more. And agreed on Spags’ mistakes. He certainly errs like a second-year HC. Hopefully in year three, like so many players, he blossoms and irons out the wrinkles in his approach. I’m damn sure we’re gonna need it.
Overall, you hit the nail on the head in this one, Chopper. +1.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
Who the hell is Jones?
… and Shurmur wasn’t the OC in Phily, he was the QB coach.
I am interested in seeing what Kroenke says/does.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
DONNIE FUCKING JONES
get with the program jeez…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 3, 2011 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Haha it's understandable,
not many people would expect a punters name there but Jones is sure a bright spot for us.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
hahahahahahhahaha
You can cut the tension with a knife!
Pooch punts should be illegal inside an opponents 38 yard line.
Right on the money.
I like Spags a lot and I think he is perfect for this Rams team and will become a very, very good head coach. That said, his biggest flaw is not giving free reigns of the offense to the offensive coordinator. Shurmur, as inconsistent as he was, showed flashes of brilliance at times. With a real target and Clayton back, Shurmur might be really good with another year of experience and FREE REIGNS. I don’t want Spags to get fired but I have a feeling that if he doesn’t let the OC do his thing next year, he might do it to himself.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I agree and like Spags a lot
But I don’t think anybody really knows who is responsible for the shotty play calling. Spags or Shurmur? And I heard that Shurmur is being considered for a HC position in the NFL, so we’ll find out next year hopefully! On a similar note, it seemed to me (not official stats by any means) that when each 1st down is after gaining 10-12 yards, its hard to march all the way down the field without getting stopped at some point. An example is last night when we started a drive on our own 3 yard line, then got it all the way down to the Seattle ~17 yard line, and then Laurent didn’t make that catch. We must’ve gotten 6 or 7 first downs on that drive. I only wish that we had a PLAYMAKER who from time to time was good for a 40 yard catch or run so we could get chunks of yards instead of the scraps we seem to get now. I’d like to see us get Blackmon in the draft.
And the bottom line is that we we coulda shoulda woulda…..didn’t. We just weren’t that good this year. RamChop, while bitter, is right about the coaching decisions. But you can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. He also has this team believing in itself which is also a pretty powerful indication of his coaching prowess. Hopefully he’ll learn from his mistakes and not make them twice. I think he will.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 3, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree entirely
i think as a defensive HC, you must leave your offense to the OC. if you do not trust him enough with your offense, replace him (not with a rookie qb though) so basically Spags’ only option is to give free reign to Pat, and Pat to give Sam more leeway.
Sam needs to audible out of a FB sneak on 3rd down with 8 men on the line with OUR OLINE.
Spags has shown in his two years that he is not good at managing the clock, and this needs to be fixed. I don’t know how, but he really needs to get clock management down. That will be a huge thing for us.
FINALLY. we need new weapons. on offense, defense and special teams… Brandon Banks type impact UDFA…
Bradford to Onobun!
Clock management is the toughest
adjustment for a new head coach so I’m giving him a pass since it’s his second year. He got much better but it just didn’t seem like it because we played in meaningful games.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
yeah I don't think Spags is that bad, and there is probably 0% chance he is fired this year
the commentators really praise him for the poise and attitude he has instilled into this team. I don’t want to end up like the singletary 49ers please
Sam the MAN! GIANTS WIN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!
Next Year
With our wins this year, next year the teams we will be playing are going to be a major step up in skill. If we do not increase the skill level of the Rams we will be at the bottom again and will then be picking high in the draft in 2012.
i almost hope the saints lose next week
and then the seahawks get blown out by Atlanta or whoever. They will have an even lower draft pick.
I met Joe Halahuni's parents.....in Alaska. Jealous?
Well for all you Spags lovers here let me say this
First off he is no head coach I said it from day one, he is a D.C. and lacks any of the abilities of a real head coach , Spags presence was never felt in even one game during this season, he has no eye from the bench ,he wants to control the hole aspect of the game offense defense when he cant even see his nose,his inexperience is evident in every game ,this will make it the fourth game this season that he is responsible for the loss of the team, We need a real head coach and a solid O.C. with this conservative bullshit no team can win unless you have a defense like Pit. Because of Devaney and Spagnolo Sam Bradford was left with out any weapons this year,and they both have the balls to say Sam did not ask for any help ,you fucking dick heads both of you he’s a rookie he just got paid 50 mill, he is not in a position to ask for more help but its your job not his to know if the team need help you fucking dushbags both of you,we don’t need to be worried who we will draft we need to be worried who we can get for our head coach , Stan Kroenke might be a new owner but he is not new to football or new to the Rams, he was part owner %40 of the greatest show on turf, if I were him I would not stand for this sub par coaching on my team,today I would be handing out passports to our coaches and a stiff warning to Mr.Devaney get the right people or pack your bags too
Beeswax...-1
His involvement in the defensive scheme was a major reason for our (relative to years past) success this year. Could he improve? Absolutely! But he’s also gotta be given a little time to bloom. If he makes the same mistakes next year, you’ve got a case, but IMO you don’t have one at this point.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 3, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
+1
This was the worst rant ever. Spags IS a good head coach. I don’t know many head coaches that would have gotten 7 wins from this team. Spags may have lost us a couple of games with rookie mistakes but his coaching is the reason this team overachieved in the first place.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
+1
I’m pretty sure Spags had something to do with James Hall having a good season. I like to see what our d could look like with a few more good players.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
You are right other coaches would not have lost the games Spags lost by mistakes we would have won 10 or more
with the chump schedule that we had his 7 wins is nothing
With the talent on this team,
VERY few coaches would have gotten 7 wins at most out of this team. Spags got it at the very least. If he were more seasoned, I have no doubt that we would have gotten 10 but again, not many other coaches would have been able to.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
+1 must agree
our Rams roster is still so very suspect – even on defense. but like some have posted, Spags needs to put his all into the D and let the OC Do That Thang !!!
Looking forward to better personnel moves through draft, trades, fa, etc… the players are out there, GO GET THEM and coach coach coach!!!
by L.A.Sunshine on Jan 16, 2011 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
There's a lot of truth in your assessment buddy...
8-24 for 2 full years don’t get the “Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval” in my book either. Zorn, Mora and Singletary were sent packing in that time frame. And I’m weary of hearing what a great “defensive” coach Spags is. How did our great Spag’s “D” allow the lousy lousy SeaHawks offense to run over us for 140+ yards? Why did we have NO sacks and Chris Long have only 1-tackle? How did we lose other critical games this year by allowing 3rd and 32 and 4th and 18 conversions for 1st downs???
And what kinda HC allows SJax only 11 touches in the biggest game of his career??? Reminds me of Mike Martz under-utilizing Marshall Faulk in the horrendous SB loss to the Pats.
But Cable was 17-27 overall since taking over as coach in the middle of the 2008 season for Lane Kiffin.
Better then Spags record and his ass just got fired ,yall think Spags job is safe lol
Spags job for 2011 is secure.
Beyond that we’ll have to see what Stan Kroenke thinks.
Chris Long
looks ‘short’ and lousy vs. seahags, kinda like a wasted draft pick – made me puke!
by L.A.Sunshine on Jan 16, 2011 7:29 AM CST up reply actions
fuck this we did better then last year shit that is unacceptable in this life time
that’s the that’s the attitude for losers for losers
this makes no sense
but winning 6 more games than last year is no feat huh..
Yeahhh the Patriots,
Steelers and the Colts weren’t built in a year.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
the patriots put out a new team every year that rocks dumping and replacing players all the time
But they have a real coach not a errand boy for Devaney
Not when they were winning their 3 Super Bowls.
They had the same core every year.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Say what you want about the H.C. he cant mach up with any of the good coaches out there
Coaches are a dime a dozen but real head coaches are hard to find, Spagnolo is missing what it takes to be a great head coach,when you play the Patriots you feel the Belicheck presence during the hole game ,you know your playing Belicheck as well as the Patriots ,when you play the Rams your playing a team with out the personality of a head coach,just a bunch of confused players on the field like there trying to find them self
and as far as our revamped defense it might be improved over last year but still sucks and leaves a lot to be desired
Spags is no Belicheck
If that’s your expectations, then good luck!
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
yup
bill is in a class of one… regardless of his cheating and being a douchebag in general he is a great HC.
Spags is already an upper echelon young coach and this is his 2nd year on the job with an awful roster. give him a break dude. i know it’s overreaction monday but damn… what would firing a coach the team believe in do?
Bradford to Onobun!
I agree
Getting rid of Spags was about as close to my mind as “Trading SJax and Bradford”.
Anyone who thinks Spags should be fired is a complete moron….or a Seahawk/49er fan
Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?
i would go this far
Anyone who thinks Spags should be fired is a complete moron….or a Seahawk/49er fan
he has definitely had some “what the fuck is he thinking?” moments – he had more than his fair share yesterday and that has clouded what has been a great 2nd year (I feel…)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
well he's not the only one making calls
and he’s only a sophomore coach. Just like Bradford’s pick last night (What the actual fuck!?) you just have to realize they’re not seasoned yet, next year we can be more judgmental of the calls
Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?
I guarantee this beyond conservative offensive game planning will be
the single largest problem for the Rams next year. I think the oldhead rams fans have seen this before I have been a fan since the late 80s, long enough to know this. Sometimes coaches change, but this is rare. I dont think I have ever seen a coach radically change a core philosophy like spagnolo would have to to make the Rams a winning football team.
I mean we arent talking about Mike Martz excessive use of timeouts and challenges where yeah it drives you nuts but isnt really the sole reason for losing a football game. The Rams lost to a team they should have easily pounded into the ground….against a quarterback has taken less than 100 snaps in the NFL…with significant injuries at LT and MLB…that had the 29 ranked defense in points allowed…than had the lowest ranked rushing offense.
Next year the Rams will lose every game against a .500 or better team with this approach. Just like they did this year.
All I want for Christmas is a Pete Carroll scowl on week 17!
...and the Rams only score 6 lousy faulking points!!!!
All I want for Christmas is a Pete Carroll scowl on week 17!
oh yeah well But Cable was 17-27 overall since taking over as coach in the middle of the 2008 season for Lane Kiffin.
Cable just got fired with that record Spags is 8- 24 lol you look like the moron now
and the Raiders beat some good teams this year we cant beat any one good
We don't have a mentally unstable
and senile owner like Al Davis though, one who thinks he can still be the GM at this age.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
"at this age"
Al Davis use to know what he was doing.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Yes,
hence the “at this age”, like Blair said. Anyone who thinks Al Davis still knows what he’s doing is old and senile also lol.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
sergey606 when I was watching the Rams you were still crapping yellow
Im a Ram fan since 1967 and have never followed another team and have seen more good and bad coaches then you can shake a stick at
You've been a fan since 67,
what’s your point? Being older doesn’t automatically make you smarter.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
No but I have seen more coaches good and bad and I can judge a book by its cover
I dont need two more years to read through the pages
I've been an NFL fan for longer than you.
You can’t judge a book by its cover, no matter what you think. There was an article in the St. Louis paper today showing that teams that stick with their head coach through thick and thin do better than those that change coaches all the time. Admittedly any team that would stick with Linehan for a long team would be crazy, but once you get a head coach who is improving the team each year he is worth sticking with. It’s ridiculous to judge Spags by the 2009 record when he inherited a train wreck. It makes more sense to note that he clearly improved the team this year. If they show more improvement next year, whether they make the playoffs or not, he will begin to look like a keeper.
Generally yeah, but
I would rather ask my older brother(26) “who is gonna win game x” then my dad(53).
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
i don’t know why you insist murphy is a flop RamChop… this really baffles me. he is a ROOKIE. learning cb, a 3rd round pick and good on special teams.
give him a break.
i generally agree otherwise, but I think that we can win this division next year.
It will be fucking hard with our schedule… but within our division, I don’t think they’ll get impact QBs like Sam… give our rivals 2 years and then we can truly worry… i hope.
we really need to hit this offseason, and this means FA too,
last year we had no chance due to the CBA situation, and depending on if it is resolved or not will really be the difference this off season.
we are headed the right way, we just need to stop beating ourselves. this will come with experience, time and patience.
i still believe, but man, i really wanted to rip some shit yesterday. never been so angry at a football game in my life.
Bradford to Onobun!
Who was our last big free agent?
Can anyone name the last big free agent we signed? Anyone? No, Clayton does not count.
They will notice and they will giggle.
How about Drew Bennett?
Last time I checked we paid him about 700,000 for every catch he made here. That was the worst big free agent we ever signed.
Big name FAs aren’t all they’re cracked up to be. I’ll take an ‘unheralded’ signing like Jason Brown or Fred Robbins every year. Those are the guys that make this team better.
*Slapping self*
I totally forgot about our kicker. He is awesome. And Jason rocks out with his ____ out.
How about I rephrase my question.
Who was the last skill position free agent that we signed who panned out. As in contributed consistently and was worth the dough?
They will notice and they will giggle.
Brown was a good idea
Not a good FA pickup.
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Faulk wasn't a free agent.
We traded with Indy for him.
Kurt Warner?
Anease williams? Amendola?
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Well boys and girls
its been fun, sure tested my blood pressure this year. Well I guess we can pick this up again in 2012 when football gets back (JK). I’m not much for guessing the draft when mega millions is up to 290M. I think I’ll try to win that, and buy a few players to add to the Rams if Big K won’t crack open his checkbook.
Cheers!
OCR
There's going to be some shakeup
and I think we’ll all be saying a fond farewell to Shurmur sniff along with a slew of others. Spags….well, Chop I can’t agree with you that it’s his fault that Shurmur stayed or that he made any really dreadful decisions this year. His foothold was making the turnaround, which he did. I see him becoming much more forceful come next year now that he’s worked some magic.
"Tread lightly, lest the Big Goat Eats."
I think, for better or for worse, that Spags is too loyal to can Shurmur.
I think he’ll sink or swim with him (much to my chagrin).
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
"wasted draft picks like Null, Murphy, no-brain Gilyard, Davis, etc."
Murphy and Gilyard are rookies, so I give them a pass. Null was taken in the 6th and Davis in the 5th. You really gonna be mad, because the FO didn’t get a good player that late?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
A better player, like who?
What team is gonna give up a good player for a 4th round pick? We couldn’t trade for Boldin or Marshall last year, because we couldn’t give them a new contract, because of the ownership situation. Maybe this year we’ll trade for, I don’t know, Lee Evans.
But last year’s disappointing offseason in terms of free agents, should be given a free pass. How is a gm supposed to give out big contracts, when he doesn’t have big money to give out?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
or there are no FAs out there to sign
last years FA’s that were screwed by the lack of the CBA was phenomenal.
if those guys had hit the market I can imagine we’d have made some big waves.
Bradford to Onobun!
You won't convince him
It’s been tried 100 times, but this logic doesn’t flow with him…
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
Yes, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."
I don’t care if Murphy, Gilyard and most of the other draftees are still sophmores in college – they suck. We don’t even know if Gilyard possesses anything more than a brain-stem. These guys were chosen to replace 3rd stringers and they still can’t cut it. Meanwhile we have NO OLB’s and have to play guys like Dockery in the secondary. El Floppo.
when has Murphy proven he sucks?
when he makes great tackles in special teams?
when he gets beat by Roddy White like every other Corner in the league?
He is a rookie and has a lot of talent. He’s contributed and shown a lot of upside. Just because he isn’t playing like Devin McCourty or Joe Haden there is no way you can categorically prove he sucks.
If he gets burnt every play like Dockery I’d give that he has been worryingly bad regardless of his rookie status, but he hasn’t been abysmal, he’s been ok. Of course you love rookies to contribute immediately but name any CB in this or the last draft that has made the impact that the 1st rounders have?
this is where my exception comes to your approach RamChop. There are some groundless points you make way too frequently, and while you often get it spot on or aren’t far off it, I think there are a few like this where you are way off.
Bradford to Onobun!
that one INT is more than pretty much 70% of all CB rookies lol
I hope I am right too, but to slate him this early is unfair…
Bradford to Onobun!
Murphy was pretty good on special teams.
I saw him get burned consistently in pass coverage. The INT he got was a tipped ball that happened to fall to him. I sure hope he does better next year, but so far I haven’t seen much to like from him is pass coverage. He overplays the guy and gets left behind when the receiver changes direction. I’d say he needs to improve dramatically next year or he’ll be gone.
Hey, what do you know.
That’s the only game I missed too lol. Had to help me uncle move that whole weekend.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I know one.
Alteraun Verner, Boy, did the Titans hit. That said, I think Murphy will be solid.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
What do you know
Verner is a BRUIN!!!!!
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Was he?
Well I guess fUCLA football is good for something haha.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
We have 2 potential 1st rd picks this year
wat about SC?
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Maybe 1 at most,
but we’ve still had the most 1st rounders ever. Hey, as long as we keep beating you then send as many first rounders as you want!
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Monster?
What Monsters? Name me 1 Monster?
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Frankenstein, Wolfman, Creature from the Black Lagoon...
I wonder if these dudes would fit the 4-pillars concept?
by RamChop on Jan 5, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dammit....Good play Chop
But i doubt it…all have a history of violence
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
I know Devaneys #1 of 2 years ago that I was totaly against caust the team 33 mill guarantee money
And he is now the fast becomming the second Barron of this team he even sucks at right tackle,I can get a pro bowl right tackle for half that money lol
I didn't wanna reply to my post earlier, but I'll do it here at the bottom
Rams67: Just cause you’ve been around to watch the rams since 1967, doesn’t make you a GM, cause firing Spags after 2 years (after he and Billy basically started from scratch) makes absolutely no sense. Like I said, criticism can come next year, but for now Spags should be left alone.
I just love how after a 1-15 season, we win 7, had a chance to win the division with a young team….and a bunch of people are mad. neat.
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Didn't read your comment about Rams67 until after I posted mine.
I kinda said the same thing.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
I can only tell you this
Mater of fact I have been a G.M. on a sports team before for 15 years semi pro but never the less ,have you? and have hired and fired several coaches in that span,and I can say this good head coaches are hard to find and every coach cant be a head coach of a team,two years ago I said we cant win with Shurmur as O.C. now two years later many feel the same way,so if it takes you all 3 years to figure out what im saying is that better for the Rams?
1) I’ve been a fantasy football GM for 5 years, in several leagues. Won 3 leagues, finished in the top 3 four times…so yeah…
2) The last 3 years the rams won 6 games. This year they won 7. No way do I wanna change the direction the team is going. But like I said, if they plateau at around 7-8 wins next year, then you tweak things.
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Says the guy that gets upset when a 6th round pick sucks.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Yes, but I hate it when most when 1st round picks don't pan out...
We have some great examples; Alex Barron, Tye Hill, Adam Carriker, even soft-head Jason Smith. Chris Long was number 2 overall, and while he’s starter material, he sure hasn’t shown pro-bowl skills. Sam, JL and possibly Saffold are the only Ram picks that might eventually make it. The rest of our recent drafts are littered with underachievers and/or players with fundamental flaws; Incognito, Adenyaju, Wroten, Brian Leonard, Null, Obog, Davis, Murphy, Gilyard, Ryan, Scott, etc. AND that’s just the short list. But we’ve been able to make some remarkable free agent acquistions to help make up for it; James Butler, Hank Fraley, Hollis Thomas, Ni’all Diggs, Bobby Carpenter, Kyle Boller, AJ Feeley, yecch! Monkey with a dart board would’ve done much better….
hasn't shown pro bowl skills? are you really saying that?
dude. even the Pats draft busts. calm down. you can’t hit every round and not every player on a team needs to be elite. it’d be great if they were… but if they’re not all elite it’s not something to moan 24/7 about. ya dig?
Bradford to Onobun!
Chris Long was mentioned in many people's
“snub” articles. Most of them said “he had a solid season, but not good enough this year” but they still recognized him.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
What do Barron, Hill, and Carriker
have to do with the current gm? Devaney didn’t draft those guys, so why are you holding it against him?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
It just goes to the fact that the Rams of the last decade are not great with the draft. All the way back to Trung Canidate.
I say soft head Jason Smith was the wrong #1 pick for us in 2009. And outta two drafts, Devaney/Spags only got our money’s worth with JL, Sam and Saffold. And while 2nd overall pick of 2008; Chris Long may be a solid player, he ain’t pro Bowl material in my mind and apparently nobody else’s either. Note that the 2010 2nd overall pick, Nadamakong Suh WAS voted in as a pro Bowler.
Again,
What do Barron, Hill, and Carriker have to do with the current gm? Devaney didn’t draft those guys, so why are you holding it against him?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
lol
so what does devaney have to do with those guys?
and Long had a fair few sacks and many more hurries. He broke out, when we get some more help in coverage with development of fletch and murphy Long will get more sacks
Suh is a different breed of DLineman too… I don’t see how you can pull remarks like these outta your ass lol
Bradford to Onobun!
Gotta agree.
Suh is considered one of the best defensive tackle prospects all time, if not THE best. No way you can ever compare any second, or first pick, for that matter, to Suh. No one has been as hyped as him coming out of college and would have been #1 in any other year.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Interesting that you think I'm playing a game,
when all I did was repost my question that you chose not to answer. So you going to answer it or just attempt to make a funny joke(again)?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 8, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why should I bandy back and forth with a nematode?
It’s like wrestling with a pig in the mud, pretty soon you realize the pig enjoys it…
you're smart enough to realize you don't have an answer
Blair, he’s got nothing (obviously).
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
Like one about how dumb and immature you are?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Yeah clearly
you know everything about football. Let’s look at what you have said so far(I will sometimes be paraphrasing).
1. “I figure the Saints will beat the Seahawks about 41-7”
2. Fire a first time coach after two years.
3. Al Davis still knows how to run a team.
4. Hall Davis sucks, but you don’t say who we should have drafted instead.
5. Trade future draft picks for good players and then don’t name any players.
6. Complain about our draft picks less than a week after the draft occurs and say we didn’t draft any good d-lineman and olbs. Well, if we would have taken a d-lineman and an olb early in the draft, then we wouldn’t have a qb and a lt.
You think you know a lot about the NFL, yet most of your fanposts are so predictable that I don’t know if I should laugh or not. After the Rams win, I know you’re going to say how well we played today(well duh, usually a team that wins does play well.) After a Rams lost you say the same thing, just about everyone sucks(Well duh, usually a team that does lose plays bad)
You have said that you don’t follow college football that much, yet you think you know something about the guys that we draft. What do you do? Listen to Kiper and McShay and just mimic them? My guess is you were just like McShay and saying Fletcher was a reach.
I come to this blog to read and sometimes talk about stuff like
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/1/10/1921196/rams-defense-takes-a-big-step-forward-in-2010
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/1/7/1921765/sam-bradford-to-t-o
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/1/7/1922080/possible-rams-offseason-moves-defense-edition
I don’t come here to read about how bad Robinson sucks. It seems like you’ve said that after every game the Rams lost, I watched most of the games. I can see that and I’m guessing everyone else on this blog can too. I’m not going to give you credit for noticing the obvious. If you watch the games you should know that Robinson is not the guy most of us thought he would be going into the season.
I don’t write fanposts on this site, because any thing I would like to write about is already written. Examples being the wr issues, Asomugha,and the draft.
You like giving out nicknames, here’s one for you.
Slapchop.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting you didn't disagree
with anything I said.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OK. I'll take the time to address your issues - again. sigh
1. "I figure the Saints will beat the Seahawks about 41-7" (myself and 99% of the fb world were wrong. And not the 1st time either. I thought STL would win the NFC West title.)
2. Fire a first time coach after two years. (Happens all the time. Ever hear of guys named Zorn, Mora, McDaniel, Singletary, etc. Didja know a guy named Lou Holtz coached the Jets for 15 games in 1976?)
3. Al Davis still knows how to run a team. (Al ain’t what he used to be. But he still has 3 SB titles and 5 appearances. Nobody ever called Art Rooney senile.)
4. Hall Davis sucks, but you don’t say who we should have drafted instead. (pick ‘em or maybe I would’ve traded the pick.)
5. Trade future draft picks for good players and then don’t name any players. (Let’s see now, the Seahawks gave a 4th and 6th pick for Marshawn Lynch. I’d have done that one. I’d have also given a 2011 2nd and 3rd or 4th for V. Jackson.)
6. Complain about our draft picks less than a week after the draft occurs and say we didn’t draft any good d-lineman and olbs. Well, if we would have taken a d-lineman and an olb early in the draft, then we wouldn’t have a qb and a lt. (Don’t usually get much good after 3rd round, but I’d have used 3rd and 4th for an OLB and DT instead of Jerome Murphy or a TE.
Anymore questions for Slapdickchop???
oh wow the seahawks gave up a 4th and 6th?
that’s hilarious! That is a quite awful trade IMO. (if you didn’t catch on, I meant for the Seahawks…)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 11, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
yeah. we've had great success with 4th and 6th round picks. My favorite was Keith Null in 2009.
Lynch sure helped beat ours and the Saints asses. What’ve good have our 4th or 6th round picks done???
Kinda hard
for a 2011 and 2012 draft pick to contribute to the team.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 11, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
well the Rams are a terrible example
considering immediate future and terrible regime before that (hence terrible drafts) Some notable 4th picks are:
Mike Williams (OROY if not for Bradford), Aaron Hernandez (500+ yards as a TE), Geno Atkins (3 sacks as a DT)
in the 6th, there is Joe Webb (60.7% CP) and Jordan Pugh (INT and 4 pass deflections in very limited time)
Now if we go further back, it gets better naturally:
’05 – Kyle Orton, Marion Barber, Brandon Jacobs, Kerry Rhodes, Darren Sproles, Chris Canty
’06 – Owen Daniels, Brad Smith, Leon Washington, Jason Avant, Barry Cofield, Elvis Dumervil, Willie Colon
’07 – Clint Session, Leron McClain, Jermaine Bushrod, Michael Bush, Tenard Jackson
Now I don’t know about you, but if those draft picks turn into any one of those players, it’s an absolutely awful trade
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 11, 2011 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
We weren't getting VJ
for that. We would have easily done that, they were asking for like 2 first rounders and a second rounder.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Jan 12, 2011 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks for noticing lol
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 11, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Remember the 2009 draft and tell me ...
… who you wanted with that pick at the time.
We couldn’t trade down, and Stafford was gone. Are you suggesting we should have grabbed Aaron Curry?
It had to be somebody near the top, right?
I contend that Smith was really our only option that high.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
a dude who held out like a bitch
and had a broken foot?
if you can’t do due diligence on a guy and you’re picking #2 you do not take him
also. a wr with no O Line?
look at our needs back then.
Bradford to Onobun!
Yeah
I could be a 9er fan and I’d still say Smith is the better player. Smith gave up 4 or 5 sacks all year and has been one of our better run blockers, there is no reason for anything to call him a bust. Crabtree, the two-time Biletnikoff Award winner, has yet to have a 1,000 season. Granted, he’s had no quarterback, but he hasn’t been nearly as good as advertised and I think he’s extremely overrated.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
anyone* lol
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
So everybody thinks Crabtree is worthless and Jason Smith is worth $33M?
So Sam hasn’t gotten whacked alot from over RT. Part of that is because he’s mobile. Also how many penalties did Alex Barron Jr. incur this season? And how many big runs did SJax make this year off RT? I’m glad you apologists aren’t spending my $$$$.
So you think Jason Smith is worthless and Crabtree is worth 33m?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm on record as saying
Smith was pretty good this year and better for this team than Crabtree.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Crabtree is far from worthless. Smith is far from a bust. Sam gets hit more on the right side because he tends to scramble to the right, yet Smith still hasn’t given up more than 5 sacks. That’s impressive. We actually rank first in the league running off the far right. I’m glad you know what you’re talking about.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
wow douchie went HARD lol
i agree
crabtree would have asked for the same money and didn’t fill the need we had at the time.
Douchie made the perfect point and RamChop stays silent. interesting.
Bradford to Onobun!
I honestly do know where to verify who's 1st in the league at running far right!!? I just took his word for it.
But it sure didn’t look that way to a guy who watched 15 of 16 Ram games last season. I wonder who’s first in the league running off RT and between the TE and then cutting back left??? Obscure stats….
I watched 15 of 16 Rams games too
and it really didn’t look like it. I got it from FO. It’s off the right tight end, but even then, the right tackle has a lot to do with that. Especially since off the left tight end, we didn’t do much.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
wow you do know there's a thing called hindsight
and you are completely ignoring it
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
Crabtree ain't ever living up to his hype.
Plus, he fell to the 10th for a reason.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I would not take Curry over Smith even though Smith did not pan out so good
There were better linemen in that draft and I for one was against taking a converted T.E. as the man to replace Orlando Pace,If we were going to take a Tackle it should have been some one that naturally played that position,like Saffold this year from day one you could see he was a LT no questions about it and no problems like with Smith,I have said it a thousand times were paying LT prices for a RT thats a waste of good money
How is it a waste of good money?
You’re saying we should be paying Smith what Saffold makes and vice versa. Isn’t that the exact same amount of money being paid? If they’re switched around then so what? Let them continue to grow and do a good job and it’s not a waste of money.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
douchie ream my lips,Smith is making twice the money he should be making
Left Tackle makes the most money of any other linemen on the offense,Mr. Smith got paid L.T. money but he is not playing there is he,so we have an over paid R.T. what is so hard for you to understand? if he would return half of the 33.mill then i would be ok with him ,They way over paid this chump and on the other hand were playing hard ball with O.J. this off season ,I just dont get it
Again,
a waste of money is throwing perfectly good money away. The fact that Smith is making what Saffold should be making and Saffold is making is what Smith should be making means we’re not WASTING money. We’re paying what we would for a good LT and RT. Now just because we got it wrong, it doesn’t change the fact that we’re not wasting money. When their contracts are up, if they give Smith $33 million more and Saffold $33 million THEN we’re wasting money. That’s not hard to understand either. Wasting money is giving BOTH of them $33 million when only 1 deserves it. Just because we got it wrong, we’re not over paying for both tackles combined.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Jan 12, 2011 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
And I've admitted several times on here that I was wrong.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on Jan 11, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
If i was a coach in real life like i am in madden
I’d draft players in the 4th and 5th every year And turn them all into pro bowl players…i always trade out of first yet i get studs in later rounds and trade better the belichick himself….i need to apply for a Rams FO position…hello monster.com
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
haha
yeah, Oregon State won the National Championship and Quizz Rodgers won the Heisman for me. I’m a good Coach/GM on NCAA 11
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Now your talking crazy
lol Oregon St….wheres douchie with his SC tlk…that would make more sense…lol
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
I hate SC so damn much
and now that Luck is coming back, he’ll mess-up OSU’s homecoming game :(
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Matt Barkley
two-time Heisman winner and two-time National champ before going pro :). Thank God for no bowl ban on Xbox hahaha!
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
"G.M. on a sports team before for 15 years semi pro"
Yeah, like I’m going to believe that.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Facts that are backed up by what?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Backed up by 15 years of players and coaches that I hired fired and paid for lol
In 2001 in november i was in Europe after 9/11 and the Team wanted me to take over again as GM. but i was not there to stay this time,half the country of Greece knows who I am
ASTERAS ITEAS 4th National category Soccer team in Greece
stop asking me about me here if you want facts email me and I would be more then happy to answer your questions
oh!
Soccer! In Greece! Half the country knows him!
…jealous….
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Don't know who Frick and Frack are,
but the only reason I asked about this soccer team is because I don’t people to assume that your claim is true without proving it. So calm down.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 8, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
RamChop says something and Rams67/Ram-on just parrots him (since he can't come up with his own thoughts) followed by a lmao
It used to slightly amusing. Now it has devolved into pathetic.
Grouchy old men that are out of touch. I’ve seen this movie way too many times.
The worst part is, RamChop often has good thoughts, but just as often he just resorts to insults.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on Jan 9, 2011 2:17 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Midas every argument you ever had with me you lost that's why your so bitter lol
Midas alsow keep in mind what I told you a long time ago when you first came here, your opinion is worth 5 cents
by Rams67 on Jan 10, 2011 5:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well with him offering so many opinions
he should be rich. where’s his money?
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All you have ever been is a hater in this room
there was only one other dick head like you Middas but he been long gone so you are left alone and you stand out just like a sore thumb ,kind of glad you started this with me cause I need some thing to sharpen my claws on during the off season
"Awwwkk!!! Polly wanna cracker. Awwwk!!"
by RamChop on Jan 10, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"just as often he just resorts to insults."
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
So you think you know about football,
because you ran a soccer team?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
I was born a Ram fan my friend and have been all my life
and I know as much about football as I could learn from Tom Landry and some other great coaches,no one said you have to agree with me lol why are you so upset with this lmao
Because you want Spags fired after 2 years, which
I already explained.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Difference is evaluating talent.
No doubt that you’d succeed over any of us but I’m prettyyyyy sure evaluating football talent is much different than evaluating futbol talent.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Not as much as you think the key positions are pretty much the same
some things are different
I'm one for intangibles
(work ethic and good character) because I feel those guys have what it takes to succeed no matter what. Personally, that’s why I like Spags so much. He’ll get guys that will want to work to get better as opposed of an arrogant athlete who could be boom or bust in the NFL. Sometimes, though, you need to take the chance on an athlete but only a proven one like VJ in my opinion.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
On one of those athletes, I should say.
Of course they’d have to take a chance on an athlete lol.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
how can you say that?
football and soccer (call me American…) are completely different sports
Although I do think some NFL players could just play in the MLS (I know this league isn’t representative of the world) right now if they wanted while soccer players would get roasted alive in the NFL
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 8, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
i live in the UK and thus am the authority on FOOTBALL on this blog lol
and it is totally different. also a semi pro team in greek football is worse than being unemployed lol
you’d have merit if you could say you got them promoted to the top greek flight and even then that’s equivalent to low league english football. sorry dude.
The two sports are not comparable in any way. The way the NFL is run is entirely different, as is the way of judging talent. in the NFL you can have similar base approach (go for high character, high talent guys) but the way you get them is entirely different.
I can’t imagine the FOOTBALL appraoch of getting talent ever working in the NFL. the Redskins have proven it.
In FOOTBALL throwing money at talent works, look at Chelsea and to a lesser extent Real Madrid.
Although that success isn’t oftten maintained, it’s dynasties like Man Utd’s of youth talent and development that equals long term success. This is the case in both sports and this is where you are wrong.
throwing money around and cutting dudes after one season does not mean shit.
Key positions the same? my arse, there’s literally NO comparison. look to rugby for a slight semblance of similarity.
Bradford to Onobun!
Hahaha it worked for Real Madrid
earlier in the decade.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Barca will complete another treble this year.
I <3 Lionel Messi.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
If I have to pick one,
let’s make it Champions League :). Best in Spain or best in Europe? I’ll take the latter.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Buddy you are only a fan ,you think that makes you a authority on soccer lmao
how many coaches have you sat down with and discussed different game strategies for the defenses you will be facing ,how many players have you drafted in any league at any level of soccer ,you try to take what I said way out of context ,I never tried to compare soccer in Greece with UK.or any other country in Europe for that matter,and I was not bragging about my accomplishments even though I did better then most ,my point was that what I did was at a level that requires you pay for players and coaches so you learn some things over the years because you make right and wrong moves ,and as far as similarities there are many things the same that I wont even begin to get into with you ,this was not meant to turn into a soccer conversation in the first place,but don’t be coming across like you are some authority cause you live in fucking England your soccer sucks of late any ways lmao what have you guys won lately Spain has dominated European soccer so don’t even go there,Authority my ass
LOL
the thing about authority was a joke. I’m not the only UK Rams fan on TST.
I’ve played football my man and there is no comparison in the way you practice except set pieces being rehearsed like standard offensive plays.
i’d rather you did because i gave you some examples of the disconnect and can’t see any parallels lol
and what do you mean?
How many english teams reach the last 16 of the champions league every year? lol at least 3. I’m not saying England are any good internationally.
English club football and spanish club football are major, whoever is bigger is not important, for my point let’s agree semi pro greek football isn’t on any radar.
you’ve not been in a position to assess guys the same way a real club has, you gotta get the guys you can afford and can get a saturday off their 9-5 haha
of course picking dudes of character etc. is preferable but the manner of acquiring is entirely different.
Bradford to Onobun!
Semi pro or pro Greek football is primitive at best
but don’t even think that any team from England could go there and play with them ,remember one thing they kick legs first and then the ball lmao its very hard and rugged totally out of control ,very common for refs to get the shit kicked out of them if the home team loses lmao its a war atmosphere every game, I don’t like it or recommend it lol
haha sounds kind of fun
i’m a bit of a dirty player myself, so I suppose I’d relish that.
Bradford to Onobun!
Gotta agree with Infemous.
Champions League is almost always dominated by Premier League teams. Of course, they don’t always win, but their always one of, if not the best teams.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
you ever have evidence other than i'm old and i know what i'm talking about?
Seriously I’ll use wikipedia as a source for why this is a fucked-up argument
Argument from authority (also known as appeal to authority) is a fallacy of defective induction, where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative.
Source A says that p is true.
Source A is authoritative.
Therefore, p is true.
Seriously, get some fucking evidence for what you are saying… We don’t know you as a person so we can’t and shouldn’t just take “I coached and I know coaches so I know more” as evidence for why Infemous is wrong
Goddamnit I’ve heard this argument from you at least 50 times and it’s the wrong one to use because you aren’t necessarily right just because you have more experience in certain areas)
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
well i lost my cool obviously
after eating, i’m good now…
I don’t necessarily disagree with what I said however
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
you should be a politician
you slip from corners very well. it’s quite impressive.
Bradford to Onobun!
Im im right or wrong time will show you can be sure of that
and as I explained to infemous many of the positions are the same or have the same function just different names and strategies are comparable as well,as I said even basketball plays are used in soccer who would have thought those two sports have any thing in common
Do you know there are many plays borrowed from basketball and used in soccer in the red zone?
And taught by coaches that got there coaching degree in Germany you would ever think those two sports could have any thing in common, but they do and so does NFL football when I said key players you should have asked me what I meant instead of shooting off your mouth
there is no redzone in english football?
you mean the penalty area?
please explain, i’ve never heard of that.
i also know nothing about basketball so i wouldn’t know about it anyway lol
Bradford to Onobun!
yes the penalty area just using NFL lingo lol
yes all the set plays around the penalty area the give and goes and little trick plays are all borrowed from BB A good coach that had come from Germany was showing me and explaining to me how many plays they use now from BB
this is an example of greek football lmao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8ozxliySQ
and i never knew that, that’s cool. never thought there was strategy in basketball though lol
Bradford to Onobun!
loooooooooooooool
i can safely say i’d score there.
pretty much guaranteed. wanna sign me?
Bradford to Onobun!
Yo
basketball is just as much strategy as any other sport lol. Unless you’re MJ, in that case you’re pretty much capable of anything hah.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
They do the pick and roll and the give and go?
Scratch that, they do have the equivalence of a give and go.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
well 3 of my teams got to the quarters at least
i live in england doesn’t mean i support them
they suck and are broing.
Bradford to Onobun!
Germany.
I swear to god Thomas Muller is the best young star out there. He made me root for Germany, I was highly disappointed he missed the game against Spain (with an extremely bad second yellow card call _;)
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I never even heard of getting a yellow card for a handball.
It is either a red card (intentionally preventing a goal (unsporting) or no card.
Not to mention, he never touched the ball with his hand.
I agree and I think that call was the single reason why Spain hoisted the Cup.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
Touching the ball with your hand is a yellow card
discretional by the Ref some times he wont give it but most of the time he will
Intentionally.
If you watched the game, Thomas Muller had no shot at getting his hand out of the way because it was kicked straight at it. It should have been a hand ball, not a yellow.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Jan 12, 2011 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
I agree.
Germany was able to bottle up Spain’s offense and Muller WAS Germany’s offense (quite amazing for a 20 year old). That game would have been completely different with him in.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Jan 12, 2011 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
dude
we all know that Mesut Ozil is better than Muller.
Losing Muller was a blow but Ozil was the dude that was making stuff happen, and he is the next Zidane. with speed. and left footed.
Bradford to Onobun!
I like Ozil too
but honestly, he looked fazed under pressure. His play got worse as the tournament went on. Muller set up everything from the outside, he had more crosses than anyone on his team, I believe, and we all know those are beautiful crosses :). Ozil in the middle and Muller on the outside, Germany is set for the future. Sorry, I’m biased, Messi and Muller are my favorite players haha.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
i don’t know. the defenders focussed on ozil because he was ripping apart some teams and wasn’t expected. It’s like always double covering Moss in his prime lol (rams67 would love that analogy) they were going out to shut ozil down and that allowed muller to have a more prominant role.
I love a lot of the German guys, but I may have to admit a smidge of bias as I really got blown away by Ozil.
But for me, player of the tournament was Asamoah Gyan, Diego Forlan or Ozil.
they are the ’MVP’s of their respective teams imo.
Bradford to Onobun!
THANK YOU!
Asamoah! I said that all tournament, the guy was AMAZING. Him, Forlan and for me, Muller lol. At least we agree it’s a German.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
you are supposedly older than 50 Imao
I love reading your comments LOL… they are always full of intelligence ROFL… and you are always right Imao
wait… I didn’t have enough typos and I actually made sense there so I fail IMAO
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
WOW!
Have you ever commented without lol, Imao, or haha?
Seriously, how the fuck should we take your opinions seriously?
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
"who told you to take me seriously"
Did you just call yourself stupid?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Or you can call yourself dickchop.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
That confirms everyone.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Time to take your meds lol
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 11, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
quarterbacks and goalies are basically the same players.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
No but a (center back) the last man back and a safety is the same
and a striker and a WR are the same and the QB is #10
not literally but in strategy the way they are used in the game plan to open up the defense or too defend against, you should all read the Art of War most coaches do
I think you take what I say too literally lol I don't mean that
I’m talking strategy you are talking literally lol
not really
because a wr is not the sole way to get tds lol
field goal kickers and free kick takers have a similar role, as do penalty takers.
- as in the playmaker position? i suppose a dual threat qb is like a #10… i’d say holding mid have the duty of dispensing the ball a little more.
but again, i can’t see it strategically or literally lol
they are SO different.
Bradford to Onobun!
yes different in many ways Franz Beckenbauer was #10 when Germany attacked lol
but the way to use players to open up the defense and attack has many similarities
Why are they any diferent from a guard in Basket ball or a Center in Hokey lol
there job is the same the place the ball in the hands of the best player that has a chance to score ,the theory is the same
i don't know a thing about basketball hockey or baseball
so any comparisons to those sports are entirely lost on me haha
Bradford to Onobun!
Xavi is soccer's ultimate quarterback.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
That was a joke,
meaning being able to scout soccer players does not equal being able to scout football players.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 8, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Im much better at American football Rocket man lol
had better coaches to learn from here,in soccer only the coaches that came from other country’s had some thing to teach ,Mainly German schooled and South American coaches
Rocket man dont worry
I wont fire Spags I give him one more year but Shurmur the murmer has to go lmao are you ok with that?
You talking to me or someone else?
Because I have yet to see a profile called “Rocket Man.”
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Ok
Ramsdick67
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Chopper - It almost sounds like you were expecting more than 7 wins this season...
not to mention a division title. Obviously I’m guessing here, but I’ll say that prior to the season 95% of Rams fans would take a 7 win season and come up 11 points shy of a division title.
Also, while this season’s schedule was soft, it’s not unrealistic to believe the Rams will be better next year, while some of the teams we play next season may be stronger this season, but may drop off. They always say that there is a 30-40% turnover of teams who make and miss the playoffs between one season and the next.
In some of my earlier posts I said I thought the Rams might win 6 games, but...
I was assuming the 49ers were going to be a powerhouse and didn’t figure the Cards would collapse into a stinkin’ piece of crap. What I’m not happy about is being given a cake schedule and a horribly weak division and NOT being able to capitalize on it. Granted, about 60% of our players are backups, castoffs and old men. And our coaches have a collective screw loose. But games were HANDED to us on a silver platter and we couldn’t close the deal. Can you honestly say that we should not have beaten the Cards and Oakland in the 1st two games??? I even wrote a post on Detroit being a trap game. I think about 95% of the people on TST thought we’d beat the Leo’s. But we lost 44-6. Then we’re up 17-3 on Tampa and lose 18-17 with 9 seconds left. The next embarrasment was getting up on SF and having them comeback and beat us in OT. The 49ers had to convert a 3rd and 32 just to stay alive in that game. Naturally we got our asses stomped by Atlanta, NO and KC. We didn’t beat a good team all year. But I’m still stewing over that embarassment on national TV where we let the Seahawks outcoach and man-handle us right outta the NFC West Title. Find someway to defend giving SJax only 11 rushes against one of the leagues worst defenses. 2010 was a worst to first season lost. And don’t count on 7 wins next year unless we get some real quality free agents plus have a decent draft.
True enough.
I don’t think they can get everything we would like, but if they don’t make some big moves and really improve the team this year, there won’t be any excuses.
No not every thing we would like
But the offense has to be a passing and running Machine next year and with a little improvement in key spots to the defense we can be on our way,I would be very happy with that
Actually I distinctly
remember half the TST guys saying how scared they were about the game against the Lions. There were talks that we had a legit shot at being above .500 but even the people saying that feared for the worse (myself included).
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
i can second this
i thought we had the ability to beat them, but never saw it as a cert. although tbh i think that about every other Rams game… Any Given Sunday
definitely didn’t see that spanking… kind of lucky that was one of the 2 and a half games I missed this season lol
Bradford to Onobun!
That was the only game I turned off lol, stopped watching in the 3rd.
I missed the second game against the Cardinals helping my uncle move.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
In retrospect I was very happy I wasn't able to watch that game.
It was the only one I missed all season, and I still haven’t seen any of it and don’t plan to.
Coach Connors jinks us that game when he started boasting to couple of Lions fans how we will kill them sunday lol
I too had a bad feeling about that game don’t know why
It just felt like the ultimate trap game.
A completely talented but underachieving team needing to let out their frustrating at home over the team whose only win a season ago was against them.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
bad grammar, a form of lol (Imao, haha), not replying, stupid opinion
This is your typical comment on TST and reading through 70 of them made this thread literally unbearable to read
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
Dont read my post ,why do some thing unbearable , was some one twisting your arm?
Are you here to tell me when i can LOL, LMAO OR HA HA HA? if thats the case your out of luck ,As i dont remember asking for your opinion or is it worth any thing to me,have a nice day LOL
jezus
half this post turned in a soccer conversation.
Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?
Blame Rams67
for thinking knowing soccer equals knowing football.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Blame your self for continuing to ask soccer related questions
and it seams you know nothing of soccer or football but your here now so im sure you will learn some things lol
Where did I ask about soccer?
Why don’t you show me these questions.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Here we go again lol you want to start it all over again? lets just talk football here ok
that way you can show me how much you know about football that i dont know
Just like slapchop/dickchop
you totally ignored a question. You just might be the same person under two different names. You want to just talk football, that’s weird because i thought you wanted to talk about soccer, judging by the number of comments you posted about soccer.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Here this is what I said about soccer you must have missed it i guess
my point was that what I did was at a level that requires you pay for players and coaches so you learn some things over the years because you make right and wrong moves ,and as far as similarities there are many things the same that I wont even begin to get into with you ,this was not meant to turn into a soccer conversation in the first place,
It was all your questions and then Infemous asked me to explain ,I have no interest in soccer or do I want to talk about it on a Rams blog
This is what you said that started this
“Mater of fact I have been a G.M. on a sports team before for 15 years semi pro”
Why did you tell us that you have been a soccer gm? Why do you think that gives you the upper hand? I wouldn’t want Billy Beane to run my NBA team. Being to able to tell who will be a good goalie/whatever other positions they got in soccer, is the not the same as being able to tell who will be a good quarterback/rb/wr/etc.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 11, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
This is why I posted that to reply to sergey not to change topics
sergey posted Just cause you’ve been around to watch the rams since 1967, doesn’t make you a GM so I simply was trying to show him that I had some GM experience,ones again not to change the hole conversation to soccer
is it that hard for you to see what im saying?
I believe sergey was implying NFL gm when he said that.
To which you replied I have been a gm(later we found out a soccer gm) so what does being a soccer gm have to do with the NFL?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 12, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
yup
that’s what was implied. this is a football (American) blog site.
Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?
All I did was ask a few questions about your supposed position
as a gm of a soccer team. I’m not the one that had a full on discussion about the sport, lol. See rams67, I can do it too lol lol lol lol lol.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 10, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Yes that's all you did and thats all it takes to open up more questions
and before you know it the hole conversation turns irrelevant
Another thing that started this was you saying
“Not as much as you think the key positions are pretty much the same”
There you go again thinking evaluating soccer players means I know how to evaluate football players.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 11, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
I told you from the start i know both sports quite well and I can see the comparisons that you cant
its very simple I explained it ten times already if you just bothered to read what I said,
hey
just because you can see comparisons doesn’t make them right. You are not always right just as I am not always right.
Explained is a relative term and you failed at explaining it effectively to everyone but yourself seeing as no one is convinced
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 12, 2011 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
I did not think it was important to get into every little detail to show comparisons
This discussion would take up way more time then I even intended it to have,as it is its way past what I intended ,I understand both your point of view’s but I can also see that no matter how I was to explain what im saying you will still have a difference of opinion,and that is ok we cant all have the same opinion about things,and by the way STL I do not think im always right,but have proven to be many times before the fact and not just playing Monday morning QB,that was one of my points I was trying to make that when you pay money for players and coaches Not millions but thousands of dollars its a little different then making choices as a fan who has nothing to lose,its a bit different and I can see both sides and understand how you and Rocket look at things but I can see the other side as well ,I know all of us here want the same thing for the Rams to continue growing as a team and hopefully dominate for years to come,Some times we bud heads and argue our different point of view and I know we all needed to let out some anger after that horrible Seattle loss ,so lets take a deep breath and no need to be looking to argue with each other,Im so happy Van said Shurmur is leaving I can hug all you guys lol
by Rams67 on Jan 12, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Im so happy Van said Shurmur is leaving I can hug all you guys lol" I'll 2nd that motion!
But it’s a shame we didn’t fire him… Spags didn’t have the brass ones.
Douchie understood what I said this was his reply to me
Xavi is soccer’s ultimate quarterback.
he's also one of like 3 guys in the world who plays like that
and it doesn’t work as a comparison, it;s a very loose statement and not anything that can lend credibility to a point.
Bradford to Onobun!
Who's the third?
I can think of Xavi and Kaka.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
you've got Fabregas
Gerrard a few years back, I never rated Kaka.
to be honest i pulled 3 out of my arse but if i were to think it’d probably still be a single digit number lol
Bradford to Onobun!
Okay yeah Gerrard still plays at a high level.
Just feel bad for him because Liverpool’s organization is pretty sad. I guess Fabregas when it comes to Arsenal. Don’t know why he just doesn’t fit in with Spain’s international team. I guess Forlan too.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
What comparisons?
Being able to run up and down a field and kick a ball is not anywhere the same as what a qb,rb,wr/etc. do.
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 12, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
My friend its not important let it go lol you kill me
Ok one last attempt,the NFL QB handles the ball and distributes to the player WR’s,RB,TE, that will have the best chance to score or gained the most yards, A QB= in Soccer would be #10 his job is basically the same to handle the ball and distribute to the players most likely to score or progress down field,Can you see the comparison in that?
so
like a Center in hockey, a Point Guard in basketball, a Pitcher in baseball, the dude throwing the rock (don’t know the term, too lazy to look up) in curling, the guy who’s turn to serve in tennis (or other sports involving a net), etc.
I’m pretty sure that very sport has a position similar to a QB.
Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?
And how does being able to scout soccer players
automatically give you the edge in scouting football players?
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 13, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing is automatic,it comes from years of experience
and my soccer experience in managing and evaluating players helps ,I did not scout that was a job for others that were scouts
I hope we can move on to football now lol
You're the one that was talking about soccer
with douchiedude and infemous, so I figured you would like it if I asked some more questions about it lol
If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
by Blair Rocket on Jan 13, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I have a better idea....let's bring the topic back to Rams football.
My contention is that unless we pick up at least a couple GOOD free agents at WR and OLB, and do something to get rid of Goldberg starting on the OL and Dockery playing, and start grooming another RB that we won’t win 7 games next year. Not against the NFC East plus Pittsburgh, Green Bay and Baltimore. Also the Seahawks will be revitalized after their incredible finish and the 49ers will be better off without Singletary plus they’ll have Frank Gore back. This Kroneke dude ain’t cheerfully gonna accept 6-7 wins next fall. It’ll be lights out for Spags/Devaney if that happens. Whadda all you FO and Spags apologists think about that very real scenario???
Kroenke sure dint look happy in that picture with Spags, but they call him quiet Stan
you never know what he’s thinking but people that know him are saying that he will be talking to Devaney and Spags, and let them know what he expects this year,hope he give them the green light to spend some of his money and get the players we need
Well the 1st positive move has been made without any actions from us; Shurmur is gone.
And I hope the dink and dunk crap is gone with him. However, I do not hold Spags blameless. He was 1/2 the duo that cost us 2-3 games this year and about the same number last year. Anybody besides me recall the 2009 Washington, Jacksonville and Texas fiascos?? I’m cool with the 2009 mistakes cause they actually allowed us to get Bradford (and to think some people wanted Jimmy Clausen lol). But I hoped Spags and Shurmur would learn from the 2009 miscues – they didn’t. I was initially a Suh man, but fully embraced Sam. Conversely, I have never embraced overpaid Jason Smith. Now it’s time to start cutting out the rotten parts of our apple. IMHO the train should be waiting for Dockery, Diggs, Kehl, Chamberlain, King, both Butlers, Ryan, Robinson, Fells, Toast, Darby, Scott, Ah You, Fraley, Karney and Gibson among others. Adam Goldberg, if retained, needs to go back to backup status. Let the chopping begin.
Adam Goldberg deserves a backup spot
when he was considerably worse at the starting spot than most of those guys… You do this and we’re at a complete lack of depth. Most of those guys make for good backups…
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
We cannot field 22 NFL quality starters.
We’re sick puppies at WR X???, OG, OLB X2, DT, CB, and we have no credible stand-in for SJax to take a breather.
I agree.
I don’t think we should get rid of them all though, just upgrades.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Jan 13, 2011 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
it would be kinda funny
if the new Cleveland Browns become a complete air bombardment offense. THEN we’ll know it wasn’t Pat Shurmur.
Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?
lol
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Last I checked
all of them started at one point and were ineffective. Starters being ineffective deserve to go,or be relegated to a backup job. Backups who play like backups should stay as backups.
If they make the team and beat out our backups
then fine. But our backups shouldn’t just go because they’re backups. Spags has already proven that any rookies will have to earn a roster spot. Also, the chances that all of our draft picks make the team are slim.
you can't say that because we haven't had time to see them develop
picks made before spags and billy just do not count.
it’s a given late round picks take longer to develop, hence why they went later.
late round dudes who do well instantly seem to be guys that were injured or have ‘character issues’
Bradford to Onobun!
He was traded for Alex Barron by the Cowboys
Cut by the Rams
Signed by the Dolphins, then cut by them.
Signed by the Lions.
Hmmm…I guess you know something that 3 other teams don’t.
I just know that I watched Carpenter play some on Direct TV and I also watched our OLB's play in 15 of 16 games, and IMHO he looked better than our guys.
Now argue somehow that we have good OLB’s.
if being cut by two teams doesn't tell you he's terrible
idk what will
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 14, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
It's possible the Leo's are better than us and Miami right now. :-)
But you make a point. After all the Saints cut Karney just before they won the SB and we snapped him up.
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