Help Wanted: Rams offensive coordinator job search begins
Now that the Cleveland Browns have made Pat Shurmur their new head coach, the St. Louis Rams have a big hole to fill. Offensive coordinator for a team that has the central building blocks of its offense in place would be an awfully attractive opportunity for someone. But who will it be?
Let's take a moment to get oriented with the candidates, none of which are official candidates at this point.
Josh McDaniels
No name has garnered more attention than the former Broncos head coach, one the Rams helped get fired with a late season win in Denver. McDaniels shares and agent with Spagnuolo, Shurmur, Holmgren, etc., and that's fueling the speculation around him.
Pros: Great track record with offenses, especially quarterbacks.
Cons: Not a West Coast offense guy. There are also questions about how well he and Spagnuolo would mesh, especially since the two have no history of working together. Would he be looking to leave after just a short run of success, and if so, would that be a huge problem?
Verdict: McDaniels is probably the most likely candidate at this point, and maybe the most popular among fans, though he does have his critics. Talk that his departure after a couple seasons could be disruptive is probably a bit overstated; however, it would help to cultivate a successor just in case. Sam Bradford should be a pretty well established QB by that point, able to run an offense all by himself...and even pick up an offense that differs from the one McDaniels would use were he to get the job.
Brad Childress
A friend of Spagnuolo, Chilly's name was the first one mentioned as soon as Shurmur looked like he'd be Holmgren's guy. However, reports now suggest that the former Vikings head coach is a longshot.
Pros: He's a West Coast guy, who goes way back with Spaguolo to their days working for Andy Reid in Philadelphia.
Cons: Not a great track record with young QBs. Looks like Gerald McRaney, the camo clad half of TV's "Simon and Simon."
Verdict: He had a good track record with the Eagles as part of the team that made a Super Bowl appearance. He also managed to get a few extra inches (pun intended) out of Brett Favre's golden years. Childress in interviewing for the Miami Dolphins' OC job this weekend.
A couple more names were bandied about today, but only as speculation, of the uninformed variety.
Bill Musgrave
Former Rams personnel man Tony Softli, part of the Rams Park brain trust who brought you the awesome drafts of 2006 and 2007, tossed out Falcons offensive assistant and QB coach Bill Musgrave. However, with Falcons OC Mike Mularkey's name being a head coaching candidate for several teams this year, you have to wonder if Musgrave might not be next in line for the Atlanta OC job, since Mularkey would seem likely to leave.
Pros: Great track record with another talented young QB in a similar offense.
Cons: Might be more interested in waiting it out in Atlanta and looking for a head coaching gig next year.
Verdict: Until his name gets thrown in the mix, it's hard to say. Still, his work with Matt Ryan and the Falcons offense is hard to argue against.
John Ramsdell
ESPN 101's Brian Stull brought up Ramsdell's name on Twitter today, saying that he would be "intrigued" by him. It's just speculation at this point though. You might remember Ramsdell for his work with the Rams from 1995 through 2005 where he was a QB, WR and TE coach at various times before joining the Chargers in 2006 as their QB coach.
Pros: Did pretty well with Philip Rivers, not to mention Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger, huh? I love his downfield offense, but as a Rams fan, I'm biased toward those anyway. Wonder if he could help lure Vincent Jackson or Malcom Floyd.
Cons: Not a West Coast guy, and the Rams would definitely need some stud WRs to run that kind of offense.
Verdict: Ramsdell is a very interesting possibility, and his Rams past really adds to the allure. However, Spagnuolo hasn't shown much love for keeping ties to the Greatest Show era, though he has kept some coaches from the previous administrations.
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McDaniels or Ramsdell
Ramsdell sounds like he has a good track record. Interesting, very interesting.
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
Ramsdell and Musgrave too
Both would be a good consideration.
Remember, the league is younger coaches now to that are adapted to the newer age NFL game based on changing college game too.
Who is Oklahoma's OC?
We could start a rumor that he is the favorite. He would help Bradford :)
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
Kevin Wilson...
was OU’s OC until 3 weeks ago when he took the HC gig at Indiana U.
i want Green Bay’s QB Coach.
OC is a promotion, WCO guy, done a great job with Rodgers, comes from an aggressive scheme etc.
obviously their current OC would be better, but he wouldn’t leave GB for us for the same position, I think he’ll be a HC after next season, so let’s get his QB coach lol
Bradford to Onobun!
Instead of Gerald McRaney
I think Chilly looks like my friends’ dad. I mean almost identical, it’s quite creepy. And his name is Jim Palmer, like the pitcher.
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lol
Childress looks like a mechanical engineer!
by Jas the Mace on Jan 13, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
hey guys why dont we keep some continuity and stick with what we have
and promote QB coach dick curl to OC. him and Bradford obviously worked well together
I dont like his name
its offensive to me lol.
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
haha
fine, we can call him Richard Curl.
Hell, he couldn’t have gone with Rick Curl?! Who in their right mind picks Dick as their nickname.
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I have no clue
haha, “what’s your name?”
“Oh just call me Dick” lol
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
I had a manager
at one of my jobs that preferred “Dick” over Richard because of its euphemism. He was also almost 60 years old.
Yep.
THIS year's the year. I hope....
It's not *such* a bad nickname...without knowing its slang meaning, I'd say it "rolls off the tongue quite nicely"
But it IS a problem when your last name is…CURL. Seriously? Did he not think of the consequences? Dick…Curl. I mean, the last name “Curl” is pretty funny itself [IMO], but way to draw more attention to your name,…
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
at least it's not
Dick Straight or Dick Harder or Dick Long or Dick Short
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im on the mcdaniels boat! im riding with young josh!
by kevio3000 on Jan 13, 2011 6:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
in Denver he was on a boat called
Titanic.
ZZZZiiiiiiing!!!!!
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by sergey606 on Jan 13, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
McD is a bastard for sure
He threw the blue diamond over the railing and got rid of all of Denver’s asset’s in one fell swoop.
Number 8 is great
Was Marshall or Cutler
playing Leo DiCaprio?
He drowned one of them.
Either way, he killed off a lot of people. Including that band that kept playing
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I would say Cutler was Leo
I think Marshall was his italian friend or one of those extras.
Number 8 is great
If its true
about Spags being so controling he may name himself for the job.
i dont think he knows enough about offense
and if he was really that controlling wouldnt he take over the defensive coordinator job
by Buck Nasty87 on Jan 13, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
It was more the tone that Spags wanted.
Our problem is that we dont have good enough offensive players to actually have a good or complicated offense.
sure we dont have the best receiving corp but i dont buy not having the players for a more complicated offense
the offense we ran was about as simple as it gets and if our talent (or lack thereof) was keeping our coaching staff from stretching the play calling a little bit then our players should be insulted. we have one of the best young promising QBs, a top 3 RB, a solid pass blocking O line and some reliable TEs. sure we dont have a number 1 receiver but do the patriots really have one? branch is old and welker is a slot guy and they got that little woodhead guy yet they still run an interesting offense. we should cut the chains and take some chances because our dink and dunk offense was predictable and far too easy to contain
by Buck Nasty87 on Jan 13, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
The difference is our WR could not make plays
Besides Clayton, how many WR actually had true highlight reel plays? Very, very few. They cant get good seperation and our interior line gets blown up all the time. We averaged 18.1 points a game for a reason: we still suck offensively. Our core is very young and while it holds TONS of promise, we still have a lot of growing to do.
Patriots don't go deep anymore.
They dink and dunk as well. Granted, it works well and it’s way more creative AND it sets up their run game (BenJarvus Geen-Ellis…really?!).
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I doubt he'd do it himself, but
it will be interesting to see how the dynamic changes with a new OC. How much will Spags be willing to take some chances? Open things up a bit?
If he doesn’t, he may be looking for DC jobs again.
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 13, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Softli
was never in charge of drafts and was hired two months after the 2006 draft.
Just thought that needed to be cleared up.
Heard an interesting comment early this evening on 101 ESPN.
They were talking about what would happen if there was a lockout in March, then the contract got settled in July or August. The union is pretty clear they won’t want the players having any contact with their teams during a lockout. They won’t want them to even have playbooks at home to study. Nothing. Sooo, if we hire an OC who wants to install a completely different offense, or even somewhat different with different terminology, the players won’t be able to begin learning the new offense until August, and the season starts in September. There is no way the players could learn the new offense in time, let alone become comfortable with it. That led them to believe the new OC will be a West Coast offense guy who won’t change the terminology or basics of the offense in case a lockout does happen. In a way it’s a bad reason to choose an OC, but the worst case situation would be pretty terrible if they chose someone like McDaniel and the lockout scenario happened.
To me, that's stupid
There is a difference between coaches and owners.
reading a playbook does not give the owners any advantage over players in labor talks. I’m sick of both the whiny owners and the whiny players bitching about everything. I’d love to hear what they have to say about having a neutral third party moderate an agreement between the two.
Number 8 is great
Jim Zorn
The QB coach for the Ravens, Knows how to play with a Defensive oriented team and can develope Bradford.
Screw OC...
We need to find a new equipment manager ASAP
Pooch punts should be illegal inside an opponents 38 yard line.
Like Peyton Manning would suddenly become stupid
If his OC or Head coach would leave. I want Jim Zorn for the reasons stated above. Besides it would really piss off the Seahags LOL
It has to be RAMSdell.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
"Mishy gishy gushy gushy mishy mashy mushy VINCE CARTER!" - Lester Freamon
by Smoooth Criminal on Jan 14, 2011 12:40 AM CST reply actions
Tired of hearing about the lockout.
I don’t understand what the players are bitching about when most of them makes thousands…millions of money. I mean that’s like doctors have a lockout because they don’t like there pay and contracts. That’d be stupid.
Abu Nation!
by Xmisto on Jan 14, 2011 12:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
because the owners make more and want to make the players do more for less
it’s greed at an ownership level that is creating a disconnect.
Bradford to Onobun!
Do more for less
Welcome to what every business owner/corporation in the universe asks of their employees
I should be working right now...
if ramsdell became the rams head coach some day...
it would be almost as perfect a match as when German soccer club Wolfsburg hired Wolfgang Wolf as their manager.
Mike Leach-The Mad Scientist
Leach was 84-43 in 10 seasons at Texas Tech and his Air Raid offense was consistently one of the most prolific in the country.
Maryland didn’t hire him, so he’s sitting around waiting for his next gig.
Ahhhh, you got a little boo boo. Into the box!
Mardy, when the defense calls for a corner blitz, what do you do? You don’t do anything when the defense is on the field. Into the box!
I like the idea of a wide open offense. Dink-n-dunk with Bradford is like having a Porsche and going 30 mph. Leach seems like a guy that will tell spags to buzz off when he’s told to just “don’t lose the game”. Insubordination was 1 of the reasons given for his firing.
whoever it is
they better post the most points ever or this board will brandish them worst coach ever
If you love something, set it free. If it doesn't come back, find it and kill it.
McDaniels is a moron.
please. NO.
Lets get the QB Coach of the Packers, or SOMEONE ELSE
McDaniels has a planetary ego, and his PLAYCALLING last season helped get himself fired.
An OC has a say in personnel decisions and there is no way he should be aloud to speak beyond saying what play he wants.
This dude is too big of an issue and I don’t think he’d be conducive to the progressive atmosphere in Rams park.
He’s the TO of coaches with less talent. I said it, less talent.
I’ll explain. McDaniels has monster numbers with Brady and Moss? Cassel has a good season coming in for Brady while throwing to Moss, Welker etc.? McDaniels then coaches an awful Broncos team, alienates all the talent (including other coaches) and after a second awful year gets fired. I don’t see where his resume says he’d be great for us. He’s done well with HOF calibre players, and when using players that aren’t great he’s sucked (and the use of these guys is also his fault).
Don’t hit me with the Orton threw for a fuck load of yards thing, look at when he threw them, and how many TD’s he got. His offensive scheme is overrated and Belicheat disciples are rarely successful outside of New England.
This guy is a divisive, overrated moron who’s ego would do more damage than good.
NO THANKS. (and for those that have noticed I’m not normally so strong in my opinion)
Bradford to Onobun!

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