Pat Shurmur and Cleveland Browns are working on a deal now

by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 12, 2011 7:55 PM CST in The Pat Shurmur saga

NFL.com's Jason La Canfora is reporting that the Cleveland Browns are working on a deal that would make current St. Louis Rams offensive coordinator their next head coach. They expect to announce the news, officially, sometime tomorrow.

That's slightly more of a confirmation than the slightly less of a confirmation we had earlier today. Now, for the Rams and their fans, attention shifts to the search for a new offensive coordinator and the fallout on a young offense.

There's nothing new in La Canfora's report about any potential Shurmur replacements. He does repeat the news that Josh McDaniels is a candidate.

It was reported earlier today that Brad Childress, whose name had come up before only in speculation, was a "longshot" to replace Shurmur.

Maybe I'm just talking myself into the idea of McDaniels, but I'm starting to wonder if maybe the whole continuity thing is overstated in this case. The Rams offense has been mostly geared toward getting by with Steven Jackson, a young QB behind a promising young line and a mediocre supporting cast that made it slow going this year. Barring some revolutionary change, will it be that much more difficult to adapt for Sam Bradford? I never got the impression we saw the full playbook on display anyway, partly be design and partly of necessity.

It might hurt the receivers more than anything, at least some of the younger guys who would be role players with the right offseason additions. Danny Amendola wouldn't be that out of place, he is the poor man's Wes Welker, you know. The promising young tight ends, Michael Hoomanawanui and Fendi Onobun, didn't see enough time this year to be too deeply embedded in the system. Etc., etc., etc.

The biggest question about the transition is how it will effect Sam Bradford, or, more appropriately, how long it would take him to get back up to the level of expectations that would be reasonable for him in his sophomore season.

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1 preseason game

and he will be fine :)

Nah but really, I can’t see how a smart guy like himself can’t get a system similar to th

"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"

by OGC Reds on Jan 12, 2011 8:07 PM CST reply actions

Wow fail

I can’t see how he can’t get a system similar to the one he ran in college (correct me if i am wrong)

"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"

by OGC Reds on Jan 12, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions

good luck, browns

Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?

by sergey606 on Jan 12, 2011 8:08 PM CST reply actions

Is it wrong for me to feel sympathy for them?

"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"

by OGC Reds on Jan 12, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions

Yes.

Yes it is.

THIS year's the year. I hope....

by thisguy on Jan 12, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions

But they were getting there

i think this is a setback, can’t wait to play them this year.

"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"

by OGC Reds on Jan 12, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions

True

They were starting to look better. But, as they’re an opponent this year; I fully expect them to pound the Rams into submission, as has every other player/coach/FO guy that has moved on. I’m waiting for the stories where the Rams should be angry and play their hearts out against a team that screwed them over.

THIS year's the year. I hope....

by thisguy on Jan 12, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions

So true

44-6 final?

"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"

by OGC Reds on Jan 12, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions

just got back from jamaica

so i was feeling pretty bummed to go from sunny skies 85 degree weather to a snowstorm but this surely cheered me up. ill be so happy to see this clown finally gone

by Buck Nasty87 on Jan 12, 2011 8:36 PM CST reply actions

Great news

by Rams67 on Jan 13, 2011 3:36 AM CST up reply actions

+1

by Danteslion on Jan 13, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions

So does this mean bye bye to Gilyard

After all, he couldn’t get the playbook already, so since we’re changing up the terminology, plays, etc, he’ll be behind the ball again I’ll assume. With that said, does that increase our chances if we cut Robinson which is a given and cut Gilyard of us getting a FA WR AND a 1st round WR even though I really don’t want Julio Jones?

by ramswo85 on Jan 12, 2011 9:12 PM CST reply actions

Green will be gone and it's hard to believe Jones will fall to #14.

Don’t see how we can draft a WR in the 1st round with no other first round values besides those two. We are going to need to grab one in free agency, I think.

by andyhawk on Jan 12, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions

Bye Shurmur

Welcome Mcdaniels(just don’t cheat please)

Sam Bradford

by Jombari on Jan 12, 2011 9:42 PM CST reply actions

Peace out Shurmur. We'll do better with McDaniels.

McDaniels won’t cheat.. lol.. Bradford will not be effected and if McDaniels plays players to there strengths.. Not a system. Spags needs to leave McDaniels alone and just run the timeouts and the defense. Let McDaniels do his thing with the offense.

Abu Nation!

by Xmisto on Jan 12, 2011 9:51 PM CST reply actions

+100

by Rams67 on Jan 13, 2011 3:37 AM CST up reply actions

That is one of the main reasons I like the idea of McDaniels.

He is not a “yes” man. Although not a successful one, he was a head coach and will have ideas of his own on what his offense should do. I feel he will truly look at it as “his” offense. I love Spaggs and he has done a million of the little things right. The team loves him, and he is a defensive guru. However, I want a strong personality as OC…. one that will tell him he doesn’t know shit about offense when he tells the OC to play ultra conservative every single game. We need an OC who has the balls to actually be OC and not Spaggs good boy.

by stlfan2004 on Jan 13, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions

OC

Anyone smell a little Brad Chillress in St Louis anyone???

by Bludger on Jan 12, 2011 9:58 PM CST reply actions

I bet hes sitting in Spags back pocket.

by Bludger on Jan 12, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions

This is tough to pick a side on.

I never really liked Shurmur, but maybe he did maximize the potential of this offense with the receivers it had. And now that other team(s) want him, it makes him look a lot better, but if we can get McDaniels and he doesn’t ruin us like he did with the Broncos, we’d probably be better off. Brandon Gibson better be ready for a Brandon Lloyd type year.

Onobun > Gates

by Carneros on Jan 12, 2011 10:53 PM CST reply actions

As long as we didn't give McDaniels control over personnel in that scenario

by kswiss on Jan 13, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions

it doesn't count when the "other team(s)" = the Browns

They have the worst taste in head coaches ever….. it is actually more of an affirmation to how bad he sucks….lol

by stlfan2004 on Jan 13, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions

Bad news for Bradford

Realistically, this move has ‘sophomore slump’ written all over it.

by Zoo on Jan 12, 2011 11:55 PM CST reply actions

Unsure of McDaniels

I saw how bad he decimated the Broncos into a major rebuild starting from last season. I also saw what a bad trade he made on Hillis. His players and fans disliked him.

Let’s just say I’m worried about having this guy as an OC.

by 81 Witness on Jan 13, 2011 12:12 AM CST reply actions

McDaniels

As an OC you don’t have to worry about him decimating this team. He will not be involved in any of the important franchise making decisions. See Mike Martz.

Whether he will be a good OC or not I can’t say for sure, but your concerns are not valid.

by bdemartin on Jan 13, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions

Pretty much

Linehan went ahead and did a number on us as the Lions OC after doing a number on us as our coach.

by kswiss on Jan 13, 2011 12:42 AM CST up reply actions

some guys just make good coordinators.

martz, linehan and mcdaniels seem to be those kind of guys.

by mrgenious on Jan 13, 2011 1:16 AM CST reply actions

I always question Linehan

did we just not have the personnel? I mean, halfway through his rookie year, he gave up play calling for the team.

Just one mystery that will never be solved.

Number 8 is great

by Eric Nagel on Jan 13, 2011 1:54 AM CST up reply actions

How can I help?

by RamChop on Jan 13, 2011 1:50 AM CST reply actions

I actually feel bad for Pat..

He’s paid some dues (not enough), he’s had some success (not enough). Yet, he’s got no practical experience, and no solid gameplan. He’s got very basic pieces in Cleveland Hillis, Thomas, McCoy (?), and a very shaky defense. Holmgren is looking for a yes man minion to carry out his bidding, and this will end terribly in 3 seasons with Holmgren AND Pat getting the boot.

block! building kick! exploooooooosion!

by mooseknuckles41 on Jan 13, 2011 4:39 AM CST reply actions

+1

I sense a family favor

Pooch punts should be illegal inside an opponents 38 yard line.

by VTramsFan on Jan 13, 2011 7:51 AM CST up reply actions

Would Shurmer take anyone with him?

Don’t know how big a concern it is, but if Shurmer does leave, he’d be assembling his own staff … would he be offering jobs to any Rams coaches he’s worked with in 2010? or are we somewhat protected with people under contract? Just wondering …

by k-r on Jan 13, 2011 11:52 AM CST reply actions

What about Jim Zorn ?

They were mentioning this on the ESPN board. Looks like no Childress and do we really want McDaniels? The four pillars doesn’t apply to coaches? I think Zorn would be a excellent fit if we are going to change the terminology why not him? Hell, he even has head coaching expeirence. MAybe that is why Spags might not want him is my only thought.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/31335/bradford-rams-need-succession-plan#comments

by Da Rookie on Jan 13, 2011 12:22 PM CST reply actions

and....

GONE!

Needed: Ping Pong table. Anyone wanna donate $78 million?

by sergey606 on Jan 13, 2011 12:34 PM CST reply actions

Even though Cleveland Browns yet to announce their intentions of getting the St. Louis Ram’s coordinator, we already have the news right? That is what internet is all about. Keep the good work up and when the Browns will be announcing their intention tomorrow it will not be news to me anymore.

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by jaenjanet on Jan 13, 2011 6:31 PM CST reply actions