NFL roster cuts: Rams announce their 53-man roster
by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 4, 2010 6:14 PM CDT
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PrintThe St. Louis Rams have finished trimming their roster down to 53 players. Among those cut, not too many surprises, and I suspect that GM Billy Devaney has not finished making roster moves as he and his staff take a look at the waiver wire.
The PD has a complete run down of the players cut...and two added to IR, Kevin Payne and OL Eric Young.
Among the cuts requiring comment:
LB Bobby Carpenter is gone. Disappointment has been the theme of Carpenter's career, but I'm a little shocked that he didn't make the final cut to add depth at the very least. Rookie Josh Hull made the cut after an impressive preseason.
WR Danario Alexander isn't too big of surprise among the final cuts. He hadn't played much and was dealing with injury again. I wonder if he'll make the practice squad.
Darcy Johnson was the only TE cut by the Rams, meaning they're starting the year with 4 players at that position.
RB Chris Ogbonnaya was let go in favor of Keith Toston. Silent G just never show much in the running game, and I suspect that the Rams might make another move at RB before it's all said and done.
Right now, the Rams have Chris Long, Fred Robbins, Clifton Ryan, Gary Gibson, Darrell Scot, C.J. Ah You, James Hall, George Selvie, Eugene Sims and Jermelle Cudjo as their DL rotation.
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Happy to see Hull, Hooma, Onobun
feeling good about those guys.
Not feeling so good about letting go of last year’s starting LT for a cut Carpenter.
Shows you what we thought of Barron
I too am scratching my head.. can’t believe Carpenter is gone.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Did you ever see anything from Carpenter that made his case
He had that int but was otherwise forgotten. I think the younger guys have some nice upside and can play ST. diggs animal jr, grant, vobora, chamberlain and hull made the cut. Chamberlain is valuable on ST. Plus, I think they wanted to go with DBs and DL more
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 4, 2010 7:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't see anything Carpenter did to make his case, no
and I wouldn’t have kept him just because he came in that trade.
I think they could have gotten better value for Barron, but really its not that big a deal….this FO has done pretty well, all things considered.
Actually I did
He was really good in coverage. One interception last week came by way of his deflection. Maybe I’m just not used to seeing even “average” coverage by a Rams linebacker.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Don't make me break out the TST Telestrator on you Van (j/k)
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
lulz....+1 for that one, Pete!
Now you’re armed and dangerous!
by CoachConnors on Sep 4, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I had the same fealing last game about Carpenter suprized me to see him cut
Possibly he never got much time to make a case for himself the team was looking at so many new players or maybe he just is not as good as our other LB’s
and that is not a bad thing lol
That is right and keping Young who is another Barron, why even trade Barron then lol
Waste of time moove
sounds like...
they were dumpin’ the Linehan/Martz garbage off at the corner…
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 5, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
+1000000000000
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
So I don't get why we signed Danario Alexander
Especially since we knew he was hurt, and then just cut him. I mean if he doesn’t make the practice squad that was something I don’t get
Sam Bradford
Most teams bring guys like that in
to fill up the roster during camp. Mostly you know they won’t work out but it’s nice to have options
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Cowboys only have 3 CB's left..
and are obviously familiar with the Rams roster. Don’t know if Quincy Butler or Marquis Johnson will be unemployed for long.
Quincy Butler cut didn't surprise me
he did not look impressive during the pre-season
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Keith Toston and Darby will be cut
Bunch of RBs on waiver wire,Rams will move…..Darby and Toston pure crap.
I totally see at least 1 gone before tuesday
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Nice work in completely giving away a starting caliber offensive tackle!
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
Yea we got absolutely nothing in return. Zilch.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
could've gotten choice or crayton
Sam the MAN!
by loyal2therams on Sep 4, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
not that I want barron on the team
Sam the MAN!
by loyal2therams on Sep 4, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Statement trade
as in were are tired of under-performers (starters and back-ups).
I wrote about the Barron trade biting this team. We will see in 17 weeks.
?
He wouldn’t be starting today for the Rams. Both Smith and Saffold are better than Baron…he’d be a crappy backup!
I only hear little things here and there about Baron, but I think the Cowboys don’t like him either…is he even starting for them? I don’t think so…he’s a bum.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 5, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that he has a problem with false starts and holding calls but, he is a capable tackle. At this moment he is a better player than Saffold and Smith, they both looked very streaky in the preseason and Barron was a solid blocker with very little injury history. From what I read it’s still undecided on who will be the starting left tackle in Dallas long term (Barron or Free) so that should tell you that he is solid at the very least. When we get deep into the season and one of our tackles go down we will be in trouble because we gave away the best tackle that we had on our roster. That is not to say that Smith and Saffold are bums, they just haven’t matured yet. Just wait and see how the season unfolds, we are very thin on the O-Line and have a 70 gazillion dollar investment to protect. I would feel better with Barron waiting in the wings and I don’t even like the guy.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
I agree. He was very undisciplined,
but he didn’t get hurt and he could play the position better than anyone we’ve got now at backup. Our O-line starters are pretty good, but we don’t have much to back them up. Having an experienced tackle as a reserve would have been comforting.
From Dallas' Perspective...
We’re thrilled with the trade. Carpenter was going no where for us. Seems odd that Miami is willing to try him out, but seeing as Parcels was the reason he was drafted in the first place… but I digress.
Barron will be a backup and emergency swing tackle. He has flashes where he shows his ability and level of athleticism. The problem is, he’s lazy. Instead of sticking with proper technique, he waits for the defense to get into his body then he just holds on for dear life. He won’t pass Free at all, who’s had a great preseason, but he is an insurance policy for Columbo at the right side in case his knees are finally done.
If Barron ever ‘gets it’ and begins to play with proper technique every down, then he will be an awesome player. The problem is that a lot of players with ability and a rich contract don’t find the need to be anything more than what they have become. In the NFL, you have to want to be great, and Barron doesn’t seem to want that. Seems he’s gotten what he wanted… money.
Still, having Barron as an insurance policy instead of Carpenter was a win-win for Dallas. Sorry you guys didn’t get a better end of the deal. I thought Carpenter would do well in the defensive scheme of the Rams, but when you are trying to claw out of the basement, youth takes you farther.
Good luck guys. I hope to see you out of the cellar this year. You deserve it.
We'll win the Superbowl with or without Carpenter
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Nice hearing you on Turf Show Radio Chopper
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Can I ask what state you are in
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
haha Gator state here
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
you're not alone
I’m surrounded by Panthers fans and right down the street from Bank of America Stadium here in Charlotte
by cardsfansouth on Sep 5, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Why are you making fun of the Vols?
Does NC have some rich football history we’ve never heard of? Jealously, ’tis an ugly thing.
Does Tennessee?
Way to go with the Dooley acquisition…is that really the best y’all could do? I live in Nashville and have never seen a mediocre college football team like UT swear that they’re the best program/best job in the country.
I’m an Ohio State fan…a truly elite program that’s in the biggest games EVERY YEAR!!!
Just busin’ your chops stuman :)
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 5, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Chris Henry (RB) and Jeremiah Johnson cut from Texans.
Shurmur, your career is in 3rd and long. Don't run a draw.
Onobun > Gates
I like Henry
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
what??
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
where are they thin
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Trying to find out. They also have 4 TE's, so they must be thin in at least a couple of spots
Joe McNight (4th round, USC) has been a disappointment for them after having 3 fumbles in the preseason.
wow.. 4 TE's too? I'd say thin at a few spots yes
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
wow not good for them..
Wonder if we could dish a trade, DT for a RB.. bring back Hall Davis
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Maybe short bodies at WR but not talent after week 4. Holmes, Edwards and Cotchery is not bad either.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
Braylon Edwards isn't very talented
he’s easy to shut down, only averages like 3 catches/ game. Cotchery is pretty decent, but the Jets are lighter in WR than the Rams are, certainly
Come on, that’s just plain untrue. In terms of pure talent, Braylon Edwards is probably among the top ten most gifted receivers in the league. His problem is concentration and consistency, not lack of skill. The way he can get open (and ridiculously open) is downright mystifying sometimes.
agree... very talented honestly
and he is one of the best deep route runners he just has stone hands but so does T.O and hes a HOF
Well you're certainly welcome to your opinion of course but
I think bottom line is he doesn’t do what I want a Wide to do, which is catch balls. He’s very overrated and, IMHO, a total bust out of his draft position. I’ve seen him play. Not impressed.
The world is chock full of guys that can run and not catch and he’s just another one.
Wow Coach, gotta call you on that one! The only time Edwards had a decent QB at the helm he had 80 catches for 1,300 yards and 16 TD’s. He would certainly be our #1 by far. You are also forgetting Holmes after week 4, who is a top 5 or 10 WR. I think the Jets are set, no pun intended. They know how to improve a team and quickly (Free Agency and Trades).
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
Well, as I said, I respect your opinon, but I think he is incapable of being a #1 because
He has never lead his team in catches.
Winslow even had more catches in Edwards’ magical single year of productivity, and his many drops were not the QB’s fault. I bet he could come here and be outplayed by Amendola (and a healthy Avery, from the way Avery’s preason this year looked).
Not forgetting about Holmes. I think the Jets will have recieving yards and TD’s about on par with the Rams this year. There it is, hold me to that prediction! : )
Wow! That’s pretty bold considering the “experts” are saying that Bradford will have similar stats to Mark “dirty” Sanchez’s 09 season. Now I think he will be somewhat similar but slightly better (less int’s). Also it seems that everyone else in the world recognizes that we have no WR’s but our management and some of the people on this site. And I know you have a football crush on Avery but, what did he show in the preseason? He was tenth on the team in catches and had 3 for 52 total! I have listened to many different analysts and scouts say we have one of the worst receiving corps in the game. I have to say, I agree. No disrespect but besides you there isn’t a person on the planet that would say that Robinson, Gibson and Amendola are better than Holmes, Edwards and Cotchery. Go Rams!
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
You obviously were not paying attention to his NE game
He was exactly what the Rams needed. 2 ctaches for 48 yards and nother long one on ther injury play, he was stretching the field and cacthign balls which opens up the underneath. I mean, that’s what his job was supposed to be, thats what he was doing. He was on track for a huge 3rd preseason game, whioch is the one that counts for vets, and now in his third year when most WR’s come online.
I am not in love with Avery so much as I have been appropriately patient thinking that, like most WR’s, he’ll come on in his third year. And yep, he was hsowing that.
I have no objection to getting Housh or Jackson. I do object to overpaying for them though, that’s all. And I am not under the illusion that either of them would fill Avery’s spot because they are not long ball guys, so instead of filling a hole they would be upgrading what we have. Again, no objection to upgrading, just to paying too much for it. This isn’t a team that can afford to give up the Saffold’s and the Laurinaitis’s for a Vince Jackson (which is what a 2nd rounder would effectively cost)
We should have our own thread. Avery never broke the 1,000 yard mark, hell he never broke the 700 yard mark. He has been a starter for 2 years and has shown nothing. He did show that he can get down field and that’s great but, 2 catches and 3 in three games, doesn’t show me anything. I will take watching him be blanketed for two full seasons over a preseason game as far as a scouting report anyday. Besides, I have clearly shown in another post what good WR’s do in their first year as a starter let alone their second and third. The top ten from last year all had 1,000 or just under in their first seasons as starters and followed it with multiple 1,000 seasons after that. There are naturals and then there are guys who take 3 years to become mediocre. Avery is their poster child.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
"besides you there isn’t a person on the planet that would say that Robinson, Gibson and Amendola are better than Holmes, Edwards and Cotchery"
well I put it in writing, so feel free to call me on it when it happens or doesn’t. I know I don’t always agree with all these so-called analysts, and I’m fine with that.
If they even approach the statistics that should be had by the Jets wideouts, it will simply be because of Bradford. Look at the ratings on Madden, listen to Charlie Casserly and other experts. Our receivers are terrible. I just hope it doesn’t get Bradford hurt.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
No, think for yourself instead
Simply because you’ve heard some so-called expert say something is not a reason to believe it! Think for yourself, man!
First you say I’m the only one on the world that would think our receivers are better than the Jets, then you say even if they are its all because of Bradford..
Well, I made the call despite “everyone in the world” knowing I was wrong and here’s how it turned out:
Jets WR’s combined for 3 catches for 27 yards
Rams WRs combined for 19 catches for 204 yards (and a TD).
Very predictable, considering the Jets WRs aren’t as good as the Rams.
by CoachConnors on Sep 15, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Hawks have a similar roster
4 TEs, 2 RBs, but only 2 QBs
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
My 2 cents
Very glad that Onobun, toston, and lewis made it, curry played very well last night too.
Hopefully marquis johnson (cb) makes the practice squad at least, he played great against the browns…
GO RAMS
I thought Toston was the only back I would keep of the three back ups.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
Exactly ^
Toston ran the hardest out of the 3 and if we were to only keep one I’d prefer him, obviously if we can manage better than I wouldn’t be opposed.
Also Martell Mallett was released by Eagles
We were interested in him early in the offseason.
Shurmur, your career is in 3rd and long. Don't run a draw.
Onobun > Gates
And S Quintin Demps
Could replace Kevin Payne.
Shurmur, your career is in 3rd and long. Don't run a draw.
Onobun > Gates
Dan LeFevour cut by Bears
We should sign him and cut Lewis. He’s more mobile than Lewis and he was very successful in college.
Shurmur, your career is in 3rd and long. Don't run a draw.
Onobun > Gates
You must be tripping lol
I dont care what LeFevour did in college i see what Lewis is doing in the Pro game I take Lewis any day this kid can play in the NFL your boy just got cut by mad Mike I woudnt touch him
im actually a big lefevour fan and i agree with you
lewis has already proven himself and from what ive seen lefevour has been very disappointing. lewis knows the system and should be a decent back up
by Buck Nasty87 on Sep 5, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
i heard you would take the last roster spot on the fantasy team....
if so click on my username, look at the email on it, and send me an email so i know what you’re email is… then i will send you a request to join the league….then add it… draft is tomorrow unless you don’t respond/join in time….
please respond to this as fast as possible, draft is running late as is cause nobody has taken that 14th spot!!!
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 5, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Alexander is cut, that's bullshit
The media and the Rams are so in cahoots, they made a big todo when they signed Alexander because they know the fans want him, but then they release him and you can barely find mention of it anywhere, this is bullshit. They haven’t added any Receiver yet, got nothing for Barron (Crayton was available), don’t have a number two back, and released the only receiver on their roster with the potential to be a number one in the future. All of this slight of hand, waving Bradford in front of fans faces is bullshit, celebrating about the team going 3-1 in preseason (when they did the same thing last season with Keith Null, who they also got rid of) is bullshit, and the St.Louis fans are too stupid to see it, sad story but true.
He isn't physically ready and he would have taken a valuable spot.
No one will pick him up because he will count against theirs too, and I expect the Rams to to place him on their practice squad. Let ‘s see how it plays out. Crayton is not a #1, Null was not as impressive as Thadeus Young. As far as the Barron trade, I fully agree with you on that. I was shocked to hear Carpenter got cut. I’m not saying all is rosey, but when you are given a half sunken ship, you can only do what you can at the moment. There is a full week of transactions left.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
You are a dumbass
You have no idea where your argument lies or what point you are trying to make other than to call out an entire fan base as stupid. Get off the site, idiot.
why would he be worth more than a mention?
I posted the link to where it was reported in the media, but there were many, many cuts on this day and he was only worth a mention — which he got. He’s hardly a big name in the scheme of things, considering he’s too hurt to play , won’t be ready for a while, and wasn’t even drafted.
You sound like you’re a cousin who just lost a leach-payday or something.
by CoachConnors on Sep 4, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
alexander is cut
Please who made you the football god. If your a coach on the team than speak up if not shut up and just believe that the rams will do good. What we need is positive feedback instead of your negative bs. If you have stock in the team than let us know.otherwise keep your negative comments to yourself and keep quiet. Man we want a team that sees its fans as supportive not unsupportive. Get a life. I have been a fan since 1970 and nothing will change my mind. Either be a fan or get lost loser.
I'll be very surprised if we don't make ANY moves
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Could be, but
they need to pick up players that are going to help us this season, not someone with a big name who can’t play anymore or who is injured.
We’ve been saying for days now that Alexander wasn’t going to make the 53 man roster because his leg still isn’t strong enough and he isn’t ready to play. That’s why no one else was interested in signing him. I’m hoping the Rams put him on the practice squad, then put him on IR if he isn’t going to be ready at all this season.
I agree
We’ll probably pick up a lineman, other than thats theres not a ton. There dont seem to be good running backs that didn’t make the cut, only old ones with almost nothing left. We are very young at WR and in the secondary, 2 places where its easy to bring in potential PS candidates.
We have the first waiver claim but I think that the Front Office did a very good job this year and our rookie Free Agents are just about as good as whats out there, if not better.
The drumbeat goes on....
We gotta have a quality b/u RB, a #1 WR, plus another O-Lineman and D-Lineman to have an honest shot at playing good fb (8-8).
Took the train this year...
Bulger, Boller and Null – meaning none of the terrible trio of 2009 QBs are Rams any longer. Gone are Leonard (aged) Little and never-was Adenyaju (now I can stop mis-spelling his name). Barron ia now jinxing the Cowboys. IR claimed Barron Jr. Eric Young. Why is this guy still with us? Gado and Obog are ridin down the tracks with Darby and Toast likely to join soon. Quincy Butler gone with the wind and Kevin “nice-guy” Payne (IR). Payne is still a minor role player even if he comes back. Carpenter cut, but somehow Vobora makes it? He must know where the bodies are hid. I saw Carpenter get an INT and make a sack during limited playing time in pre-season. In our case the team gets stronger every time we cut one of the perennial losers and underachievers from 2007, 2008 and 2009. And don’t forget, some folks thought we’d be depending on clowns like Carriker. Sheesh!
Lots of compliments to the FO sounds like
- Bulger, Boller and Null – meaning none of the terrible trio of 2009 QBs are Rams any longer. (and therefore Bradford and Lewis are good additions)
- Gone are Leonard (aged) Little and never-was Adenyaju
- Gado and Obog are ridin down the tracks
……..but these are all moves you agree with, right? You’re saying they were worthless so the FO made the right moves by jettisoning those guys?
by CoachConnors on Sep 5, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely. Kudos to Devaney and Spags for cutting bait on these guys (and more).
This new team, although not proBowl talent laden (yet), is radically different than the semi-pro teams we’ve fielded over the last 3 years. We started with a team of overpaid, underperforming losers, and are just now getting some victory-hungry players that are not accustomed to losing every week. In addition to the players I already mentioned, is anybody really missing Tye Hill, Cory Chavous, aged Orlando Pace or Torry Holt, Ritchie Incognito, Pisa, Lenon, McMichael, Drew Bennet, Dane Looker, Witherspoon, etc. etc. ? The list of dismissed players is humongous. I have revised my estimate that we now have about 1/3 of a roster of NFL quality players versus 20%. Mind you, we still have too many 6-7th rounders and castoffs, but improvements have definitely been made. My fear now is that we’re still short talent-wise about 4-5 key players; b/u RB, #1 WR, O-Lineman, D-Lineman and maybe OLB.
I do agree RamChop
but I do also think some of the ones you may be labeling, “cast-offs” could surprise people. Not saying we don’t need more players, but hey, look at the 99 Rams..
Kurt Warner (arena league)
Mike Jones (aged)
Todd Collins (3rd rounder from Carson-Newman.. a reach.. he was phenominal for us)
Ray Agnew (aged and oldest on roster)
I don’t think it’s uncommon to have some castoffs elevate their play in the right conditions.
I’m not disagreeing by any means, just giving you something to chew.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Yes, some guys rise to the occasion. But the great Pace & Holt were done by the time we let 'em go.
Orlando’s shoulder was hamburger and Holt’s knees were gone. I’ve always thought Pace took a couple years off his career with that silly ass hold-out from training camp. He tore a rotator cuff in the 1st game back and was never the same. We gotta face that longtime star Leonard Little was finally outta gas. While he still got the occasional sack, on most plays last year he was blown completely outta the picture. Warner was phenomenal and is still my hero. He and Tom Brady prove that lightning can strike from low round or undrafted players. But wow, is it ever rare. I’ll always have the utmost respect for Mike Jones. He was born to be in the right place at the right time, and he made THE play. I wish he’d still been around in 2001. Ricky Proehl is probably in his 40s, but I’d still like to have him around.
No doubt on that
.. I think the key is to find “castoffs” who are still hungry and healthy. And I will tell you, I think we have a LOT on our team now. Let’s see if anyone steps up to the plate.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
I agree with RamChop and by the way
Todd Collins sucked we never should have taken him from the Pats, he was already on the down slide when he came to us ,he never filled the OLB position for us and was a major week link to our defense and he was not on the 99 team he came a year later
Notable cuts that the Rams should take a hard look at...
Joique Bell, RB – cut by the Bills…152 yards on 27 carries in the pre-season…good mix of speed and size.
Keep Juaquin Iglesias on the short list. He hasn’t done jack shit in the NFL, but he and Bradford were a dynamic duo at Oklahoma. Worth a shot, right? It’s not like we have Irvin and Rice at wideout. Plus our luck with wide receiver health is somewhere between marginal and abysmal.
Ladell Betts is worth a look, considering the current state of our backfield.
Al Afalava made some plays for the Bears last year. Not sure why they cut him. He’s cheap and whatnot. Worth a look.
Just my 2 cents.
ladell and bell are probably worth going after
we aren’t getting a receiver, that is a position of depth i’d say… especially since iglesias would NOT be #1 caliber or even #3 as far as we know….
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 5, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Iglesias is very talented
but not an NFL guy likely
Bell is definitely worth a look
I thought he did very well in the pre-season for the Bills—this just one area where they actually have good depth.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
i'd say Bell
he looked good in preseason….literally 500% above our backups
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