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The Quick Five: Up's and Downs, Week 1

 

Expect plenty of analysis from all fronts tonight and tomorrow talking about the beginning of the season. The Rams unfortunately couldn't come away with the win today, but came very close. Here's a quick look at ten players who made a positive (or negative) impact on the game.

The Quick Five:

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Mark Clayton, WR

Did Billy Devaney really make it look that easy? Whatever happened in Oklahoma when Clayton and Bradford practiced together sure made a difference in a good way. It's been a long time since the Rams had a 100 yard receiver.

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Craig Dahl, SS

James Butler who? This is what I absolutely love to see. Players are given a shot, and they hustle and make the most of it. Craig Dahl laid on same great hits and kept the Rams chances alive late in the game.  

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Sam Bradford, QB

Yes, he threw three interceptions. Yes, his completion percentage was below 60%. But can you really blame a last chance pick on Sam Bradford? The one before that as well, when it's fourth down, your running to avoid a sack, you just have to throw the ball. He threw it too many times for my taste, but he sure had a cannon for an arm. It wasn't a win, but this was one of the most exciting games the Rams have played in a long time.

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Clifton Ryan, DT

Tough call here, but seriously Cliff, you have to hold on to the ball. This game would have turned out pretty differently if he would at least held on to the ball. I know, he's a big guy, he probably got tired and in all seriousness, that doesn't happen all too often. But that's the thing that can cost teams games, and make good players great. Yeah, he didn't see the guy, but he should have treated that ball like a delicious cake... even if his body was tired, his mind shouldn't been.

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Coaching (Clock Management)

Spagnuolo isn't a rookie coach anymore. Like the announcers kept saying, the Rams wasted about 10-15 seconds on the final drive of the game. I understand the idea of saving timeouts until you absolutely must take one, but there was at least one missed opportunity to save the Rams some serious time. It may not seem like much but hell, they had two timeouts. Burn one, and you can save the last one. But I give Shurmur credit for having the cajones to run the ball on a 4th and 1 with 10 seconds left in the game. 

 

Tough day for Rams fans. Judging from what we saw, the Rams definitely have a chance to win some games this year.

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I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually took Long out

but both of them did quite well today.

Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).

by Eric Nagel on Sep 12, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quite well is an understatement.

On the stat sheet, Long was definitely invisible…don’t think Anderson felt the same way. Long forced so many of those bad throws to Fitzgerald, some of which he was open on too. He changed the game quite a bit, just not enough to get the win.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a lot more coherent than I am right now.

My comments for the last little while have been more along the lines of long strings of swear words, broken up by strings of slightly different swear words.

by Spielman on Sep 12, 2010 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Great piece

I hope you do this after every game.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Sep 12, 2010 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Thumbs down on 55 pass atttempts

and only 2 carries were not S Jax. I’d kind of like to see a different balance in the calls, but I’m more encouraged by what I saw in this game versus a year ago.

I too hope you do this one after every game

by CoachConnors on Sep 12, 2010 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Even though Clayton made some nice catches..

he sure had a big drop in the first half that most likely would have been 6. I’m not so sure he would be ab “up” yet… I’m still slightly on the fence with him right now. The only positive is that we essentially gave nothing for him.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

OH and yes... I likely a lot.. every week would be cool

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did have some drops, true

But Bradford and him sure had a connection. There were some glaring plays, your right, but I simply have to give him credit for picking up the yards. If the Rams wouldn’t have traded for him, it would have been a painful day.

Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).

by Eric Nagel on Sep 12, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't deny that

But he’s definitely not the answer.. it’s obvious we’re still in “patch” mode though.. apparent from the lack of attempts for a BU running back and quality #1 receiver. I donno what they are thinking, but yes he is better than what he had.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Mark Clayton was our second option

we’d be dangerous as hell. Still need that backup running back though lol.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can you hate on a guy with..

10 receptions 119 yards, he had a ton of clutch plays all receivers miss passes

by Rams311 on Sep 12, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't know too much about Clayton

but hasn’t he had issues with drops in the past?

Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).

by Eric Nagel on Sep 12, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but we didnt get Jerry Rice we all knew he would drop some.

he also just got into the system last week and got 10 RECEPTIONS for 119 YARDS thats better than Moss Marshal both Johnsons had this week

by Rams311 on Sep 12, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

we knew the deal when we got him….drops some passes but 119 yards six days after being handed the playbook is hella good IMO

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

not "hating" on him.. just donno if he is the answer we need..

he’s just a hole that was temporarily patched. I hope he scores 40 TD’s and gets 2000 yards. Let’s see what he brings us for the season. This was one game and so far average stats with some big drops. Thta’s not “impressive” it’s simply, “Ok cool… we have another #2”

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

119 receiving yards is not average at all

seeing we are rams fans, we should know this the best! (not saying he is the answer, but don’t act like this wasn’t a great game from him… i only saw one big drop and he made up for it with his catch falling backward)

by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 12, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If this was a great game, and the best he can do,

then he definitely isn’t the answer. Solid #2 guy… you’re right. Big players make big catches. He has a history of drops, and today one big drop. Yes all receivers drop passes, but he has a history of this. All i’m saying is, we need a #1 not a #2.

Mark is a solid #2 receiver. Not questioning him, as much as the FO for not getting someone else, especially after Avery went down. We had our chances.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

again, he's not a #1 at all, not sure where you got that

but to call this anyone thing other than a good game would be wrong IMO…. i don’t think anybody expected him to be a #1

for the record, laurent robinson was covered by DRC, so i hope people don’t think that clayton is all of a sudden better than robinson… i mean the #2 CB for cards was toles i think and he clearly is not good

by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 12, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're missing my point

I’m not down on Clayton.. he did his best.. i’m down on the FO for NOT getting us a solid #1 receiver

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't think there were #1s available

so i can’t really blame them for that…. i didn’t know that was your point so carry on lol

by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 12, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol Vincent Jackson was one,

Jerry Rice, Issac Bruce, Torry Holt, Steve Largent, Keishawn Johnson were also all available

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson wouldn't have been playing anyway.

You’re right, we could have picked up any of the other 4 lol.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK damnit so I was wrong

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please let me continue venting lol

Can’t a guy make no sense once in a while?

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

nuttin' but love

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

(note to self: don't pick on Clayton)

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

watching you in this whole conversation cracked me up

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad I am not doing a breakdown tonight lol

It would be on my mental “breakdown”

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is what is cracking me up

you are always the calm level headed one….so diplomatic…. boy you are pissed lmao

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had the one big drop in the first half

and another on a short crossing route where he was wide open for what would have been a big gain in the second half. Yes, the pass was slightly high, but an NFL receiver shouldn’t have any problem catching throws like that. Both of his drops were on passes above his head. It looks like he has trouble reaching up and holding onto the ball when he is running a crossing route.

Clearly we need a #1 WR who can get open and make the big catches. We have plenty of quick receivers who can skitter around, but no one who can make the big catch when we need it. I’m coming around to thinking that has to be our first pick in the draft next year unless we somehow find one in free agency.

by andyhawk on Sep 12, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I couldn't agree more...

he’s a band-aid for a sucking chest wound. We need a true #1 WR. That was made most evident by today’s game…the field was waaaaaay too short and the KING had to dink-n-dunk way too much. We need a deep threat, legitimate #1.

AND

Bradford played a good game…great for it being his debut. BUT, I thought he fixated on Clayton too much. What happened to him distributing the ball among 8 receivers like he did against NE? I know the AZ defense and the lack of a #1 had to do with that, but I thought he was a little tense…I expect that to go away as the year progresses. And I like the idea of running the ball more.

AND

WTF was Billy Bajema’s problem? He had two fumbles and I didn’t see Uh-Oh hardly at all. I think he got hurt early in the game cause he didn’t come back, but Billy’s gotta learn to hold onto the ball better…or we can just get rid of him.

AND FINALLY

I thought the defense was inspired, and they just ran outta gas at the end of the game. Although I’m not sure how stupid you have to be (see: Butler) to go for a ball fake to Fitzgerald at the end of the game to give up the winning TD. But I’m sure RamChop was pleased (to some extent) with how the D played.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Judging from what I saw

It sure doesn’t seem like you’ll be getting that 1st pick in the draft next year.

by Skii on Sep 12, 2010 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks man....

You guys have a hell of an underrated team this year. Your defense is good!

by leadhead on Sep 12, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're still a few key players away from competing

despite how atrocious this division will likely be this year

by Buck Nasty87 on Sep 12, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I never saw us competing yet anyway

We still need those few pieces to tip us over the edge. I was saying to my mate i’d be happy to lose in a close game knowing that we are progressing but damn that 4th quarter just sucked the optomist out of me. Mark Clayton stepped up and made himself Bradfords go to guy but he needs to sort those drops out! The D stepped up but once again couldn’t keep it going in the 4th quarter. I just wanna see us prove that we learned from last season and while the talent has improved i’m not sure the coaching staff has learned from their mistakes!

by Stonedtodeath on Sep 12, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll compete this year...

…we’re gonna keep getting better. Don’t forget that the Cards won the division last year…

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Second-to-last drive was terrible.

Shurmur should have kept running the ball, we had time. Instead there are four straight incompletions.

by StopSpe on Sep 12, 2010 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Definitely agree.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The game plan failed

Threw way too much, run defense was horrendous – Spags has to have this team playing better

by riotmute on Sep 12, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

run d horrendous?

That’s questionable. We allowed a little over a 100 yards and 70+ of those came on one drive.

It was shut down the rest of the game.

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by clwxz5 on Sep 12, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is true

but Beanie was on the sidelines. Allowing 100 yards is tough

by riotmute on Sep 12, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh yeah that one drive what was it 76 yards on 5 runs?

it made me sick to my stomache. i feel like they were all runs to the outside/counters. maybe our OLBs were slackin

by Buck Nasty87 on Sep 12, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, outside running got me frustrated.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope someone can step up at WR

but i don’t see us winning many games till we have a true #1 WR, which should come during the draft in A.J Green or Julio Jones

by Caruso on Sep 12, 2010 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

We're 5 players away from being a legitimate threat

WR, backup RB (change of pace preferable), DE, OLB, and CB (debatable)

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

OH and another year to get our coaches better

as far as time managment, adjustments etc

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but im just so sick of this whole next year crap

ive been patient long enough. i want some damn results already

by Buck Nasty87 on Sep 12, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand totally.. and i'm with you

Bottom line, the old regime F’d us with drafting and signing over the hill gold diggers.. it’s gonna take one more year to see a BIG difference. We’re starting to see small ones now.. actually, i’d say we’ve seen moderate. Last year we lost 28-0 to the seasquawks in game 1.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want them sacked or anything

But its their job to be sound on time management and adjustments. I mean hell time management isn’t rocket science!

by Stonedtodeath on Sep 12, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way

If your going to be a coach, it shouldn’t take you three years to realize when to take a time out.

Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).

by Eric Nagel on Sep 12, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, however, If i remember right

even vermiel struggled in year 2.. bottom line, if next year these problems still surface… you gotta wonder hmmmm

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea..

of getting a shutdown corner. Who in the heck was on Breason? That guy ate us up.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need serious help at WR

laurent robinson got injured (surprise surprise), donnie avery on IR, clayton is looking to be our best guy which is sad, gilyard…eh too early to tell but he certainly hasnt been the playmaker we had hoped he would be so far, amendola is good but he cant do everything, i like gibson but hes no more than a 4th WR. the pass that soured over amendola was a harsh reminder of how short our receivers are

by Buck Nasty87 on Sep 12, 2010 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree with the play calling

We need to run more, a lot more. And we need to throw the ball deep so it’s respected. I think we went long 3 times.

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by clwxz5 on Sep 12, 2010 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Agree

But we could have ran a lot more stretches and counters.

They had 8 in the box a lot and we threw 55 passes. Every pass was a slant or quick pass out.
We should have been doing the stretch play, so when Bradford rolls out on PA they start biting on it more

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by clwxz5 on Sep 12, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing is, when we do run we have to gain yards.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

It is for one player

Also considering that Jackson caught a few passes too…

Near 30 touches a game? That’s a lot of wear for one guy.

Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).

by Eric Nagel on Sep 12, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the thing that pisses me off is

Bradford throwing 3 picks and everyone else being able to say “I told ya so!” I HATE that. We all know Sam has potential. Guess we’ll have to be patient. Bottom line, he could have had 3TD versus 3 INT… couple drops and porous play calling on a couple drivers.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Sam Bradford kicked ass today.

Yes he’s a rookie and he’ll make mistakes. The last INT was a jump ball in the end zone with no time. Blame your coach for poor time management on that one. The INT by Rhodes was poor judgement. He threw it right at the defender. The INT by Wilson was an amazing catch by a pro bowl safety with over 20 career ints and 20 career sacks to his name. The Rams have the best QB in the division. The line protected him fairly well too. Better than AZ protected Anderson anyway.

by hadrarius on Sep 12, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The int to Rhodes was Sam needing to make a play, wouldn't pin that on him.

He got hit literally as soon as he threw it, better to take a shot then just turn it over on downs. No one expected that 65 yard return, can’t blame Sam on that.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

especially cause the last two could be considered “hail Mary” interceptions.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing

Jackson’s timeline. By the time we’re ready to compete, how much gas will he have in the tank? Syncing timeline at each position is the tough part.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Plenty

if they don’t plan on running the ball anymore…LOL…crying actually

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

DO NOT RIP SPAGS! SHUMUR MUST DIE!!!!

Our Defense Looked pretty damn good the majority of the game…PAT SHUMUR NEEDS TO BE FIRED FOR OUR TEAM TO HAVE A CHANCE!!! I am so tired of seeing bull sh!t screens and swing passes all game. We have a 50 million Quarterback with an incredible arm…LET HIM THROW THE F***ING ROCK!!!!

by Jigzsaw on Sep 12, 2010 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't see Jackson in the wildcat...

Just don’t see it at all.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

i understand that you want to see the longer throws and all but you also have to ease Bradford in, now I’m not saying that the amount of times bradford threw the ball was easing him in but keeping the passes shorter is. What Shurmur should have done was let Jackson carry it more but im no coach so im not gonna ask for him to be fired the 1st week gamecalls.

by gingerredboy on Sep 12, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats why I said, “now I’m not saying the amount of times bradford threw the ball was easing him in but keeping passes shorter is.” Its ok you probably just read the first sentence no big deal.

by gingerredboy on Sep 13, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's statistical

last year alls we did was run…. oh and throw in a few short pointless passes. Because we ran so much, Jackson got more yards/holes. They will find the balance but it will take a little bit. For all of you excited to see Danario in action sooner than later it is looking like thats on track….jeez

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

went to the game and wondering if people saw the same thing as me

bradford underthrew to receivers a lot…. i mean im not complaining, this is what we should have expected seeing as rookie QBs pretty much always suck

but i thought he was mehh this game… im not totally sure i put him as a positive for this game (again this in no way worries me because rookie QBs are never good)

btw, i thought demarco farr’s post game was full of homerism, nothing negative was said about the game

by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 12, 2010 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Bradford didn't underthrow many receivers.

He threw behind a couple of times, but there were also like 5-6 critical drops, most of which were on third downs, that would have given us the first down. Bradford was actually pretty good for a rookie, if Mark Sanchez could play like that (minus the last two picks that should have never happened) the Jets would be favorites to win it all no question. Sam showed why he was the number one pick and he’s only going to get better.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He definitely wasn't perfect on every throw but all of the drops were catchable.

I’m extremely disappointed with the 3rd down drops, those alone could have won us the game. Clayton exceeded my expectations by far but we all expected those 3-4 drops as well too so I can’t complain, we basically gave up nothing for a 100 yard receiver.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

They did mention that at times he throws the short balls a little too hard for the receivers to handle…I thought some of the incomplete passes were cause of that.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lmao

they definitely tested Sam, he passed the test with those long 3rd down conversions in my opinion. Now if we could find balance, we’d be dangerous.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mark Clayton was more bad than good.

Anyone care to provide an actual count of his drops. There were a lot, not just a few.

I’d sure like to see less check downs from Bradford, but I suppose that’s better than forcing bad passes.

The decision to go for it on 4th down just inside the 2 minute warning was an atrocious lapse in judgement by Spags. We should attempt an easy field goal with 3 timeouts and our defense playing well. We would likely make the stop and give Sam time to get into FG range again.

I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.

by Midasknight on Sep 12, 2010 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

i was thinking the same what it

if we would have gotten a field goal…. could our defense as hungry as it was still pulled a fumble and then we have the game… but to be fair… if he would have done that everyone would have said he should have gone for it.

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we didn't let that guy right through and block the first field goal,

we would have won it right there and Sam would have been picked just once =(

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

That too.

That pissed me off…

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not atrocious...

…I thought we could get a FG, then 3 and out them (stopping the clock with our 3 remaining TOs) then perhaps another FG, just like you’re thinking. But that’s risky too…one 1st down and you’re screwed.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Almost matched the attempts =)

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 12, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clayton was a good pick up for the Rams.

He may have missed a few catches but without him the Rams offense would have bogged down. He was Bradford’s go to guy. 10 receptions for over 100 yards is a good game.

by hadrarius on Sep 12, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Man, the offensive gameplan was terrible!!!

Absolutely terrible…instead of establishing the running game, the Rams decide to do all this throwing on first down bullshit. You arent faking out Ken Wisenhunt…especially when your first down throws are to a flat footed reciever that is pretty much covered!!!

Later on after things settled down a bit, the rams had a hard time sustaining a drive because they didnt get Jackson going. So sam had to throw it 50 someodd times…

I thought Sam executed brilliantly, an extremely shitty gameplan!

That being said, wow look how far this team has come. The defense looks like it is going to be a top 10 defense this year. RamSam is the man, I dont care how many picks he had LOL!

and ryan!!!!!! $#@#$$# ^%$#$@ …..good effort man, better luck next time!

Congrats to the Cardinals, they have a way better team than people are giving them credit for.

35 completions for 250 yards….that is bullshit! Get the damn ball down field!

by leadhead on Sep 12, 2010 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

If we’re gonna throw on 1st down, at least stretch the field out some. We threw on 1st down and wound up getting 4-5 yards, just like we’d have gotten with SJax.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Sep 12, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

By passiing it at short, you arent helping your run game, you are just hurting it by bring the defense in short.

by leadhead on Sep 12, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dennis Green

would have said that we let them off the hook

by phxsuns on Sep 12, 2010 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL! that we did!

But hand it to the cards and anderson he hung in there and made some impossible 3rd down conversions to win the game.

With this defense, that wont happen next time around

by leadhead on Sep 12, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You wanna crown em, CROWN THEIR ASSES

But we let em off the hook!

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

very true

alot of little mistakes added up and cost us big we would have had this game won if any one of the following was different
1. blocked field goal
2. cardinal running game allowed to run wild on the outside
3. clifton ryan lets go of easy touchdown
4. HORRIBLE time management at end of game

little mistakes make big differences

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

5. dropped pass by Clayton would have been 6 (OOPS sry!) j/k lol

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all honesty, this could have been a blowout by us

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

i was trying not to go there and get you all worked up again…haha

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe i'm so pissed off

This loss hurts more than any I can remember… I guess I was hoping for more than we are capable of right now

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

no... i really thought i was going to throw up and throw my tv out the window

all at the same time. I think what you were hoping for was reasonable. We HAVE the talent capable of a win in this game. Too bad that talent made error after error after error. But the good thing is…. you can clean up errors… you can’t clean up lack of talent. Hopefully they all get the point after this game.

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reading all the comments you guys make it seem like we sucked we did well the 4th quarter hurt us but our D is way better Long got to the QB when Selvie was in he also brung pressure. For Sam 2 picks in the 4th not his fault he just trying to get us a TD on 4th down I’m happy with Sam today and for Mark yea he drop balls but he’s gonna be good it’s only the 1st game guys we look like we have a decent team so don’t rip the Rams let’s just get ready for Oakland. GO Rams!!!!

by Thomas3rd on Sep 12, 2010 8:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think all of us are happy

that we are undoubtedly better than last year. We’re unhappy because we lost, meaning we actually felt we could win. We were the better team today, mistakes can be taken care of, nothing to be ashamed of.

I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)

by douchiedude on Sep 13, 2010 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see much to be excited about.

I’m having a hard time believing the close game was about a good Rams performance. It looked like the Cardinals were trying their hardest to give that game away.

Defensively, we looked a lot better than last year, but that’s not saying much to begin with and the Cardinals were without Warner. With a decent QB (or maybe just their starting RB) I think they’d have hung 30 on the Rams, easy.

Incredibly frustrating to see such poor time management at the end, and I still don’t like the offensive identity the Rams are trying to build. I’m not one of those delusional types still expecting the Greatest Show on Turf to materialize, but this offensive scheme is so bland it hurts to watch: no power running, no deep passes to stretch the field, no fun.

by betterthanzero on Sep 12, 2010 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

i don't know that i wonder about spaggs

but shurmur is really suspect…. he better get his sh#% together this year or he needs to be gone

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

55 pass attempts out of a rookie quarterback who has no good receivers to throw to… our pro bowl running back gets little room on every play due to the offensive line dropping back every damn play they couldn’t get the holes to open because of it.

by theramsfan39 on Sep 12, 2010 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

One positive

Alex Barron is playing for the cowboys now! Ahhhhh feels so good to see Alex penalized for someone else instead of us.

by Stonedtodeath on Sep 12, 2010 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, got a holding penalty in the first half.

I guess he’s saving the false start for the second half.

by andyhawk on Sep 12, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I KNOW WE ARE ALL STILL A LITTLE PISSED

But can we at least give it up for Bradford’s fumble recovery in the 2nd….. that right there was a true football player…. when he saw that ball fly out he ran for it and got down there to get it…. i loved that play

by stlfan2004 on Sep 12, 2010 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Thumbs Up

For dumping Barron

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Sep 12, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

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