Upon Further Review - Notes on St. Louis Rams Preseason Game 3
You know by now the Rams broke out their new Offense against the Patriots, and if you saw the game you're probably still pretty euphoric over it. There were a lot of things in this game to see: Bradford starts, Bradford tears the Patriots apart, Donnie Avery emerges with 2 big catches, Donnie Avery tears his knee apart, and the Tight End that I wanted so badly in the draft showed us he actually was drafted in one Mike Hoomanawanui. Uh oh, indeed.
Those are the obvious things that the ball-following camera showed you, but there are other things away from the ball that maybe you didn't see. I took a good look at the "tape" and I'll cover a few of the players for you: just find a name you're interested in and check his game.
Jason Smith is a beast run blocker. Say what you will about him getting injured and losing the the starting LT job, this guy is still a run blocking beast. He finishes blocks as well as anyone the Rams have on the O-line. I watched him last year and it was the same thing: he will run his man out, and play to the whistle on every play. If his guy goes to the ground, he finds someone else to pound. He will mostly follow the play as it moves downfield, too. I really like this pick, even though...
Rodger Saffold looks like a better pass blocking LT than Jason Smith. His footwork is really slick, and it only takes watching him on a few plays to see he's a natural LT. The guy moves so well and shifts his wieght so smoothly for someone his size, I think they really got a good one here in the 2nd round. He looks like a more natural pass blocker than Jason Smith, although both of them look to me like they are going to be very good.
Let's take a minute to remember that different teams have different grades on players in the draft. Saffold was the 5th LT taken (R'Skins T.Williams, S'hawks R.Okung, 49ers A.Davs, Packers B.Bulaga). Its entirely possibly the difference between Saffold, who was an outstanding LT in college, and those other 4 guys turns out to be negligible. Getting an Okung would have meant not getting a Bradford. All in all, I am extremely pleased with Devaney's strategic choices in where he drafted key positions like OT, QB, MLB, etc..
Jacob Bell looked quick on his pulls, showed good footwork in space. His blocking still lacks the aggression needed out of a starting Guard, though. On one play inside the 5 yard line, with the Rams threatening to punch the ball in for a TD, Bell ran 5 feet to his right and simply fell on the ground. Usually linemen like run blocking because they can take the fight to their opponent instead of backing up to defend, and in this case he really had a chance -- if he wanted it -- to crush his man. The guy he was supposed to block got caught in the traffic and the play ended up coming play back because of holding by Adam Goldberg, but that really doesn't have anything to do with how Bell played. I've seen enough isolated gametape on him over the last 2 years to know his game very well, and it is what it is: good enough to get by for now, but ultimately he is eating much more salary than he should.
Michael Hoomanawanui looks like an exceptional player, and I'm not talking about his ability to catch. His hands were never in question, going back to high school. What the ball-following camera didn't focus on last night was that he is a very willing blocker and was fighting hard on every blocking assignment. Please don't underestimate how important it is for the TE to be able to block. This could very well be the difference between who starts on this team. Having one guy that can stay on the field for every play is extremely valuable, and I can't even tell you how important it would be for Bradford to have a reliable young TE to check down to. Well, sure I can...you saw a lot of it for yourself last night. Hoomawanui showed the ability to get open and make plays, which was something that he didn't show in college (simply because they didn't use him like that) and so those questions are now answered. He clearly made the most of his opportunities. I made the comment last night that we may be seeing Uh Oh passing Fells on the depth chart. No hate for Daniel Fells, but I hope that turns out to be the case.
Kenneth Darby showed a nice ability to run through holes but lacked patience and failed to follow his blocks on occasion, which considerably shortened a couple of plays. Darby made a strong case to be Jackson's backup but the lack of patience is a little worrisome because he should have the ability ingrained by now -- it's not a scheme thing, it's an instinct thing. His blew one long run by running past the linemen that had gotten out in front of him to block, and he ran right into the defender. Simply following the block would have meant many more yards on that play. In the end, his longest run was just 8 yards and the O-line can't be blamed for that.
Chris Ogbonnaya looked just ok. His blitz pickups were holding him back last year (and so far this year) and he semeed to do just fine blocking last night. Unfortunately, his running was very average and he has yet to put it all together. I don't think he did anything to make a case for passing Darby on the depth chart, which surprised me. I thought he would be the guy who really had a chance to make something happen last night but it was just another game for Chris. We will definitely see more of him in game 4, so that fight aint over.
Keith Toston-- hold the phone on Keith Toston. We haven't seen nearly enough to think he can play at the level of Darby and Ogbonnaya. I know 12 rushes for 41 yards and a TD has some of you wondering why he isn't RB2 or RB3 but this guy has a long way to go before he's a trustworthy blocker and runner. If you're licking your chops thinking they have a budding start on the bench, I would urge you to have patience here. You may see the undrafted FA in game 4 of the preseason and never again.
Sam Bradford looked crisp on his passes, but so what? You already knew he had a reputation for putting the ball on target. Here's where Bradford really shined: his footwork, his ability to feel pressure and move away from it in the pocket was first rate. That bought him a little more time and made it possible for him to go through his checkdowns, which he did very well. His decision making was also very good, showing a nice feel for when to throw a bullet into a receiver, when to dump off to his TE or slot WR, and when to throw it away. This kid knew exactly where his recievers were going to be and showed the ability to calmly go through his progressions until he found someone to throw to. Its these things that separate him from any other recent Rams QB not named Kurt Warner. I noted in the scrimmage game his footwork looked very impressive and it was on full display last night. While the depth chart at TE and RB2 still needs to be decided, you saw the change at QB1 happen right before your eyes last night. No way he doesn't start, and he earned it outright with a strong performance in virtually every aspect of the game.
Sam also looked to have a very strong arm and quick delivery. He was given a lot of underneath choices, and was blitzed frequently. When the rush was on, he was able to get rid of the ball with a quick but smooth throwing motion. He was also firing the ball nice and hard into his target, whether it was the middle of the field or the tougher out routes. When he was able to step into his throws, he could get it downfield with relative ease. Being able to step into the pass is something else that his footwork allowed him to do while being blitzed and is a very big deal. If a QB can't step into the pass, bad things happen, and not just incompletions but INT's and injuries too. He looked very good getting the ball out.
I say Bradford looked good in virtually every aspect because he does have some work to do. His handoffs -- no, this is not a joke -- need work. His fakes needs work. Running out after the handoff to keep the LB's attention needs work. I know you think this is nitpicking, but it's not. The greatest I've ever seen in this particular part of the QB job is Peyton Manning, who looks like he still has the ball on the run out, 2 seconds after he's gotten rid out if. This fakery serves to keep the LB from jumping the RB like a CB jumps a route, and helps the running game succeed. This skill will come, you wouldn't expect a spread Offense QB to be real good at that, and truthfully most QBs are not that believable when they run out after a handoff. But to be elite he will need to keep the LBs attention for a little longer. He's very obviously a smart, well schooled QB and I have no doubt he'll get this down by next year.
A quick note about Chris Long: He is unquestionably stronger than he was last year. I watched his play very closely last year and in this game, and there is no doubt he is much stronger now. At times last year he was run out of the box by a TE. Last night I saw him throw an OT out of his way on more than one occasion. He may never be a sack machine without plenty of support in the middle of the D line, but he is going to have a much faster start and much better season this time around, that much is clear.
Just a word about the Patriots keeping their starters in. I don't mean to be a buzz kill, but it was obvious they took the game way too lightly. It was very clear by the interviews with Belichick that he left them in there to punish them more than to beat the Rams. This was supposed to be their dress rehearsal and he was rightly pissed that they came out flat because they thought they had a walkover. His mindset was "We were supposed to play like we wanted to win. Since you haven't done that, we will continue throughout this game as if it was real....all the way through." This very thing has happened to every team from pee-wee's to pro's, and every coach has done the same thing to a team that came out uninspired against an opponent they didn't take seriously. This attitude is very, very hard to turn around once you've started a game that way and the result is it made them look worse than they are, and the Rams look better than they are. Look, this is still just the preseason folks. Every play is important in it's own right but the game as a whole, and "beating" them means absolutely nothing in real life.
Be happy! Be relieved. Be inspired. Be hopeful. I am all those things. But please, be realistic and keep the context in mind.
(* Due to time constraints I can't get all the players that I'm looking at, in the detail I'd like to.)
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lol ha ha
Reading now
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
It joins words together all on it's own!
makes me crazy. Tells me the n and d are misspelled in the word “and”.
by CoachConnors on Aug 27, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL I had the same problem
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
My keyboard always makes a space after I type "n" anywhere
most of the time i catch it, but sometimes…
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
Belichick wanted the win more then any thing and was mad pissed off they were losing
I watched all the interviews with the Pats players and every one stated that Belichick wanted the win against the Rams and was pissed they lost ,and quite frankly they did not take us lightly they just got there asses kicked simple as that
Great Job!
The Rams first team played great on both sides of the ball. The offense looked great with Jackson in the game and Saffold, Smith, and Bradford really stood out for POSITIVE things. The defense played tough the entire time they were in (Especially Bradley Fletcher and OJ) and gave the dynamic Pats Offense a tough time. Dare I say it, but if the Rams can continue to build on this kind of play, we may have ourselves a pleasant surprise week 1 against the Kurt Warner and Anquan Bolden-less Cardinals.
Also, lets pray we get Donnie Avery back before season’s end…
Thanks for covering the OL
Very hard for me to focus on it without much personal football experience. Glad to hear our bookends are clamping and shutting down the rushers.
players that stood out to me
besides bradford and ho-oh, i thought bradley fletcher played a hell of a game. i was really surprised by his play.
i was actually kinda dissapointed in players like laurent robinson, who i didnt see other than that one incomplete td. and i def think backup rb needs to be addressed. they atleast have to bring someone else in and give them a try. darby doesnt impress me at all.
not impressed with gibson either he got stopped in his tracks by a rb one play, kinda made me shake my head.
other than that i was so impressed with the zip on bradfords passes that i could only notcie a couple of ther things
I agree with Fletcher
the guy knows how to freakin tackle
Sam Bradford
great post
it seemed like Bradford had a few snaps go less than smoothly as well, another spread offense thing that can be ironed out.
Turf Show Times
by Ryan Van Bibber on Aug 27, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions
yep, and he's been out of real games for so long
I try to stay balanced somewhere between homer and objective coach’s eye, but I am impressed he moves so well, all things considered: he’s a rookie, but he’s a Heisman winner, but he was out last year, etc.
by CoachConnors on Aug 27, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Great game by the first teamers last night.
So glad we won even though the Pats left their starters in an extra quarter. Everybody played well. The offensive line was fine, the running backs were great (especially in pass-blocking), the fullbacks were great, receivers were getting open, the playcalling was awesome. Hoomanawanui is quickly becoming one of my favorite players.
On defense, we didn’t get much of a pass rush but we did a great job in coverage. Bradley Fletcher had an outstanding game, and there weren’t any big mistakes on defense by the starters.
On a side note, how is Hoomanawanui pronounced? I was always assumed it was “Who-mahna—wan-ooh-i” but Martin Kilcoyne (announced on Fox2) keeps calling him “Ho-ho-man-ow-a-woo-e.”
bradford pronounced it
hoo-manah-wah-noo-ee in an interview so naturally, that’s how i pronounce it. plus, it’s easy that way.
"There's no doubt in my mind that he will lead this team. He has to play and he has to get a feel and make this offense his own offense, and that takes time. Whenever that does happen, it's full speed ahead." - Atogwe on Sam
Trade Mike Martz and Chester Taylor for Pat Shurmur and Kenneth Darby!
I've thought it was Ho-o-mah-now'-a-noo'-i,
with the emphasis on “now” and “noo”. They had it in the paper here one day and I’m pretty sure that’s what he said it was.
Nice write-up Coach
I’m in agreement with a lot of what your saying here.
I especially like the use of one of my nicknames for Sammy, “The Bullet” Bradford, in your description of his throws. I’m also partial to “Bullseye” Bradford.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
I loved the game! -One question though...
Was I the only one very surprised when Fendi OhNo took that dump pass 33 yards? Was that play designed like that, or did he turn a dump off into a strike or what? Either way did he not show very impressive speed on that play??
4.4, almost no experience
He came advertised with a 4.4 40-yard dash, so outrunning the CB shouldn’t be too surprising. Maybe just catching the ball was, a little.
by CoachConnors on Aug 27, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
His speed and all around athleticism is why we drafted him
From what I’ve heard out of spring training and camp his speed and hands are great. He is well ahead of where anyone thought he would be when they signed him. It is his blocking that he is having to learn. If you want to watch him in terms of his progression watch for his blocking. When you start seeing that do well you will start seeing him get more and more playing time.
TE blocking
Good points that apply to Hoomanawanui as well.
by CoachConnors on Aug 27, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I am trying to remember because sometime it is hard to watch for the TE blocking during a game
Didn’t they say Uh Oh’s blocking was really good against the Pats. If it was then boy we got ourselves a heck of a draft pick because his hands are tremendous for a big TE. That one handed grab he made should have been an imcomplete pass and would have been if it was Bajema or Fells. That was what sold me in this game. The two TD grabs were just gravy.
Catch
It was nice to see someone make a play like that. And it was even better for me that it was our TE we took late in the draft.
Personally I was pissed about this pick, but then again I have no idea about the majority of late round players. Its easy to get caught up in certain players just because you hear their names a lot. I am very excited to see more of Hoom.
Gary Gibson
…caught the Pats O-line off guard, no pun intended, because he really played with a lot of effort. He got good pressure a couple of times and consistantly persued the play across the field. #71, keep an eye on him.
Thad Lewis in, Keith Null out
Thad Lewis Is now your QB3 (or 2, depending on how hurt Feely is), and Keith Null is not going to have a roster spot.
The writing is on the wall for Keith Null, as gutty as he is: the Rams will keep the one veteran QB they have, and Lewis played like a talented young prospect/project, and that’s already enough QBs.
I like Null. I think in time he can play in this league. But he won’t make the active roster this year. You read it right here.
Lewis will end up on PS.
Nul will be #3. Remember, he has been the QB for the last two winning drives this pre-season.
They put Null in when they “needed” the FG for the win.
Yes, Lewis showed mostly good stuff last night and that probably earned him a PS spot, priot to that, he could have been a straight waive. JMHO
I'll bet you next year's SB Nation membership fee
In this game in particular, Null would have played before Lewis, or as long, if he was in competition. I think the coaches made the priority clear last night, and he’s done. But I will happily pay up if I’m wrong!
by CoachConnors on Aug 27, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds fair..bet is on ;-)
I will say this, you mentioned Lewis is a prospect/project. That is why I believe PS (he should clear waivers).
big wager
But I agree with you completely. Null is done.
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
What I thought was most impressive in a night full of impressive performances
was the play of the 2nd string line during that 2nd half opening 10 minute plus drive. I’ve watched it twice now and the linemen won their battles. Driving starting level D-linemen of their heels and creating positive yardage every running play. The only time they were let through wound up being a screen pass left to Darcy Johnson.
"Toast"
Coach, you are probably correct on Toston as next week probably is the last time we see him in Rams uniform for awhile (if at all). It is kind of a shame though as he appears to be the best downhill runner of the 3. Seems to hit the holes quick and just goes as hard as he can running over/thru players until he is stopped.
I was somewhat impressed on that TD as how he squirmed his way to the end zone. Plus his downhill style kept both comeback drives moving down the field and eating up the clock.
+1
I value him above Darby. He ran well with 2nd and 3rd string blocking, which is all we’ve been able to see from him. Give Toast ’em a chance with the starters before we close the book on him.
Avery...
is out for season after tearing his ACL in his right knee. that hurts
by NukeworkerXXXIV on Aug 27, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
Fletcher did a good job as well
He kept his recievers covered well. When they did catch the ball he brought them down right away. I re watched the beginning of the game this morning and he brough a reciever down 1 yard short of the 1st marker twice.
Great Post
Astute observations all around. Bradford looked too good to be true. Is there really a possibility that we got a franchise quarterback and a starting left tackle in one draft? If that turns out to be true and any of the other draft choices turn out to be great this could go down as the best St. Louis Rams draft ever by a wide margin. I am trying to squelch my excitement after one preseason game but but it’s hard to do. T Lewis was outstanding against the patsies starting defense. Avery will be missed – I think he was ready for a big year.
Excellent Write Up!
CC,
good details, but most like your guarded optimism. It was great seeing us do well in a game, even preseason. Is seems like it has been years since we had any real offense. I am excited, but I think it will be 1-2 years before we (hopefully) will be a contender. BUT, I do think we are headed in the right direction!
The loss of Avery ....
… makes Antonio Bryant attractive to me, since the Bengals are so deep at WR they no longer need/want him. Maybe expensive, contract-wise, but it would be nice to go into a season with one guy who’s actually done it (more than once) for a full NFL season.
"Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple." -- Barry Switzer
by my name IS Earl on Aug 27, 2010 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
You crack me up
You bitch about most everyone on the team and preach doomsday scenarios yet it is Kieth Null you defend?!?
Wait….are you Kieth Null?
(maybe that is why you keep preaching about some future Bradford injury)
I should be working right now...
I'll try.....
Talking crap bout Sam:
Here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. I am sure that there are many more but you get the picture. That was just Sam, not gonna waste too much time on your remarks about the rest of the team (Avery being probably your 2nd favorite target). My personal favorites are the comments with the automatic expectations of a future shoudler injury and the comparing Sam to Ryan Leaf.
Now on flip side…..praise of Kieth Null: here, here, here, here, here, here. More funny stuff is that in the Sam bashing – you made mention many times that Clausen is well ahead of Sam, but in your praise of Null – you mention that Clausen is no where near as good as Null. You imply for Null to be the heir apparent
So after wasting 15 minutes of my life to respond to this post my conclusion is that jlcdb70 is actually Kieth Null.
TST has to be the only SBN site with 2 actual players posting on its blog!
I should be working right now...
by gorams77 on Aug 28, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
As I recall, Lewis was undrafted. Right?
If so, I would think the team’s logic would be to put him on the practice squad, figuring no one will go after him, and let him keep working. If one of the QBs is hurt, bring him up to the main squad. By later this year he will either have progressed enough to pass Null, or he’ll disappoint and not be able to do any better.
I don’t think the reason he played before Null had anything to do with his rating among the QBs. I think it was more that he hadn’t really had an opportunity to show what he could do, so they decided this was the time. We’ll know all in a couple of weeks.
That cat is out of the bag.
I don’t think they can afford to do that after last night.
As a 6th rounder, how many QB’s seperate Null and Lewis in the the draft? I think the logic leaves draft spot and goes over to Null doesn’t have the raw physical skills in place that Lewis has. I’m certainly not down on Null, but I don’t think he’s nearly as valuable as Lewis after everyone saw Lewis last night.
The coaches have raved about him and I thought it was the typical coach-speak BS to get his confidence up, but I do believe from what I saw last night the pecking order was revealed. The 3rd game is often like that. The other 3, yeah, not so much. Last night was very revealing in a lot of areas. It was great. I’ve been so starved.
by CoachConnors on Aug 27, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I was hoping to see more of him
He was the only one that looked half way decent vs the vikes. Bradford showed enough but what he endured was brutal. Under Lewis the offense finally started to move. He was still able to do that against the pats 1st string defense. If he can pull it off against the the Baltimore Browns then I think we need to protect the guy.
Likewise
Null has excellent pocket composure imo.
I would like to see him play more because he is winning the pre-season games with his drives.
I like Thaddeus thus far. He is athletic and brings a different style to the NFL game.
It’ll be tough to keep 4 qb’s, but we all suspect 3 will be the #. I would send down Thadeus imo. Next year, A.J. Feely may be gone.
Null shouldn't have been drafted either though...
Lewis just looks more athletic. Not that this is the end all, be all out of college (from an NFL prospect grading pov) but he played D1 in the ACC with highly regarded, in some circle, QB coaches. Null played lower level DII and was coached by Ryan Leaf. Hmmmmm….
I should be working right now...
how about
rod smith: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3328
charles rogers: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6338
and we’re talking about a 6th rounder, not a 1st rounder.
patriots
Why the hell is the media making excuses for the Patriots,they just got out played period.Then you listen to media praising Brady on his great night.Yeah against 2nd stringers.
They probably didn't see the game
so they are basing theit comments off his stat line. Don’t worry about it. You know the truth.
Actually what pissed me off is Brady praising his own offense for there second half play
In his interview he stated that his offense got it together by driving 4 consecutive times for scores what a joke he is
Thats a little different
Anybody who saw or played in the game should know better. Instead of beating his chest Brady should be worried about how he is going to explain his offense’s poor showing to his coach. Brady must be an ass. "I just beat up a 5 yo and took his lollipop! Whoo hoo!’
His time is going to come. Its just a matter of time. The more crap he dishes out now, the more he is going to catch later.
How is that dishing out crap or chest-beating? I challenge you to find me a player or coach on any team that talks to the media but qualifies a positive assessment as “We played well…but it was against second or third-stringers”. They know what they did.
There are far better reasons to dislike the Patriots that this, if you choose.
Lol true there are more things to dislike about the Pats
But it adds to a growing list.
by Stonedtodeath on Aug 29, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Has anyone else seen
the potential Hall Davis has. His first step is molasses slow, but he plays with power and tenacity that I think warrants some playing time, ahead of Selvie and Adeyanju. I’ve really been impressed by Hoomanawanui, Saffold, and Onobun (the man can play gunner for God’s sake) but I also have a lot of love for Hall Davis and Gilyard. If Bradford calms it down a little (still got a little rabit in this rookie), our D line rotation turns out being Chris Long-Fred Robbins-Gary Gibson-James Hall-Hall Davis-Clifton Ryan, and either Mardy GIlyard/FENDI ONOBUN/Brandon Gibson emerge as a serviceable #2, I could definitely see us pulling out 6 wins. Man I love preseason.
Julio Jones for Rams 2011
Saffold much better this week, Hoomanawanui is the FO's steal of the draft
That TE on the Packers (Finley, Jermarious???) .
Damn, the Pack has to be the favorite this year; or, right there with NOS!
Jermichael Finley
To confuse you even more, his middle name is Decorean.
Shurmur, your career is in 3rd and long. Don't run a draw.
Onobun > Gates
www.walterfootball.com
have the Ravens picking 31st and the Packers 32nd…that would be an interesting super bowl match-up.
I used to upload the NCAA Football '09 and '10 rosters into Madden and always drafted Sam Bradford onto the Rams in Franchise Mode...I liked him before he was cool =)






























