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Recap: Bradford struggles and more questions appear as Rams flush the Browns

CLEVELAND - AUGUST 21:  St. Louis Rams #22 Chris Ogbonnaya is hit by #61 Joel Reinders and #21 Eric Wright of the Cleveland Browns at Cleveland Browns Stadium on August 21 2010 in Cleveland Ohio.  (Photo by Matt Sullivan/Getty Images)

Sam Bradford, the offensive line...the real lesson tonight is a reminder of how dependent the Rams will be this season on Steven Jackson being healthy. Jackson looked like his usual self. The players behind Jackson, in heavy rotation tonight as the Rams look to make some decisions about the RB depth behind him, did little to reassure the Rams about themselves. 

There was frustration with the first team play calling, but I think they had more questions to answer about the backup running back situation. If the Rams don't start seeing something from Darby or Ogbonnaya, there's going to be some real concern about where an outside answer might be found. Both backs failed to impress. Keith Toston fared better late in the game, and got plenty of carries as the Rams dug deep on the question of the backup running back job. 

The other plot lines being closely monitored offered mixed results. 

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Sam Bradford's rough night

Last week he bounced back from four sacks, this week Sam Bradford will have to bounce back from a bad game...and all the handwringing from fans and the media that accompanies it. Bradford looked like a rookie last night. It was a good reminder that for the promise that he's shown through camp and the preseason so far that he will have those rookie moments, rookie quarters and whole games even. He bobbled some snaps in classic NCAA-to-NFL style. He also battled the talent around him. The offensive line didn't allow a sack this time around, but the Browns were able to get some pressure on more than one snap. The receivers didn't help either with dropped passes and some poor routes.

Still, it could have been much worse. He didn't throw an interception. He didn't get hurt. I know calls imploring people not to panic will find some deaf ears, but hang in there. Bradford needs more reps, that much was clear. He should get a few extra if Feeley's banged up. Compare Bradford's performance with Keith Null's for some perspective. Even if Feeley doesn't miss any time, Bradford's reps will start increasing as the preseason M.O. starts moving up a level or two and individual players and units start to put it together as an offense. At this point, the Rams need to be far more concerned about the backup running back situation than they do Sam Bradford.

In the trenches

The offensive line played much better a week after getting manhandled by the Minnesota second team. They did not allow a sack, though they wore down a little bit reminding that they need plenty more work before the season starts. Jason Brown's holding penalty negated a first down pass from Bradford to Hoomanawanui and stunted a drive that ended in a punt.

Considering that the starting five have been practicing together less than a week, it was an encouraging performance. Of course, Jacob Bell, Jason Brown and Adam Goldberg are experienced veterans, so you expect them to be able to pick it up again fairly quickly. Rookie LT Rodger Saffold and second year RT Jason Smith erases memories of a tough week last week with their play, a fact that might be the most encouraging of all. I'll be anxious to go back and watch parts of the game a little closer, to see how those two rookies fared and because I thought the backup linemen showed some stuff late in the game. Next, I'd like to see Greco get healthy to see what he has to offer at guard where his size could be a nice replacement for Richie Incognito.  

Since we're working under the "in the trenches" sub-header, we might as well talk about the defensive line that played much better too. The first two defensive series were remarkable, or at least they looked that way in a preseason game against the Browns. Atogwe came up to make a stop on RB Jerome Harrison on the first play, which followed by the impressive Larry Grant forcing a fumble, that the Browns did recover for no gain on second down. The next series ended quickly as Fred Robbins got through the line to force a fumble that he recovered. Cleveland's next drive was another three-and-out, but by the end of the first quarter they started moving the ball. Playing man coverage, they failed to pick up Chansi Stuckey who turned a short pass into a 28-yard run. Following that, the defense held and forced the Browns into a 4th down that would have been a FG in the regular season, but they were able to convert and follow it up with a TD that really probably wasn't a touchdown. It's worth noting that the backup cornerbacks were in the game at that point, Bartell having left on that same drive with a neck stinger. 

The play book

The playcalling caused plenty of frustration. Some took out their Pat Shurmur voodoo dolls, but it was probably a little premature for that. It's still the preseason. As the second quarter went on, three other factors were working against Bradford. The running backs were getting nothing, in field conditions tailor made for running the ball. The offensive line wasn't playing as sharp. Brown's holding penalty was followed by a Jason Smith false start penalty on a later possession. As the second quarter went on, the only offensive starters on the field were Bradford and the offensive line. They did work out of the shotgun more as the clock wound down, and got some results. However, the younger receivers were not getting yards after the catch, which the offense is predicted on. 

Still, it would have been nice to see the Rams open it up with Bradford in there. They had nothing to lose since the drives weren't moving very effectively anyway. I think some criticism is due for that reason. However, for this offense to work you have to have an effective running game and you also have to be able to make those shorter passes work, like Cleveland did on the pass to Stuckey mentioned above and a similar one to Harrison. To some extent, that sets up the rest of the playbook.

There's also the matter of personnel evaluation. The running back situation behind Steven Jackson demands lots of attention, so they're getting a disproportionate amount of work. There's not much question about what Sam Bradford can do, but there's a huge need to find out what the Rams have among a group of running backs in which nobody has made a clear case for the #2 spot. It's a similar situation with the receivers. Ten players are competing for 5 or 6 spots. The first four spots are occupied, and for the rest of the group competing for those last spots, they have to see some snaps and they have to be able to make something happen when the ball comes their way. Most of those guys are competing for a role in which they'd be doing little more than catching short passes and trying to move the chains a little further with their legs, hence some of the dull playcalling you saw last night. 

I said above Bradford needs more reps; what he really needs is more reps with the first team. 

Backups

With the starters off the field, the preseason games are more about evaluating individuals. Thank God. The backup units didn't look very good, but they did include some noteworthy performances. David Vobora, playing with second and third teamers, continues to play well. It's great to have him in the mix as the Rams fourth linebacker. 

Seventh round pick CB Marquis Johnson got loads of playing time, and showed some real improvement. Players coming from Nick Saban's football programs have a well-deserved reputation for being more polished than so many of their peers. He's making a strong case for a roster spot. The Rams seventh round, featuring Johnson and DE George Selvie, is looking good. TE Michael Hoomanawanui and DE Hall Davis deserve mention as well.

The bottom line

The Rams won the game and showed progress from where they were last week, in key areas too. They'll face the Pats on Thursday and get another chance to put it all together. 

I'll be back with another post on some of the individual performances from last night. 

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Good stuff

I got stuck in Iraq another day – a farewell sandstorm. Good to read we got a W, even though it’s meaningless. Sounds like the D was wreaking havoc. Good omen.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Aug 22, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Iraq? What do u do there?

Hoo-Yah

by RamsQb5 on Aug 22, 2010 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

He drinks Beer and watches VHS videos of the Rams 99 season..

plus he risks his life for Liberty :-) Hang in there 3k, you’ll be back before you know it

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Aug 22, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did have a non-alcoholic beer this deployment

It was a sad, sad day

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Aug 22, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Bradford was decent

I watched each throw 3 times and I only counted one bad pass that should have been intercepted. He had a good first down throw negated by a penalty and a no call on the most obvious pass interference you can have in the end zone(defender never turned around and was all over Onobun) which should have been 1st and goal at the one. When you combine the terrible running production and 4 dropped passes he got zero help from his team and the officials. We need to see him with Jackson, Avery, Robinson and Amendola for a quarter before we determine how he is progressing.

Although Ogbonnaya once again was not good I wonder why the OC continues to run him up the middle. He is not and never will be a between-the-tackles runner yet every run was to the same spot (that would be a dead-end).

The WR’s once again were unimpressive. Where is Avery? One note – Curry looked great in his down field blocking. This is an area that we don’t talk about much but is critical for the run game. Avery and Burton are not good blockers – not sure about Robinson.

by 2cents on Aug 22, 2010 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Disagree on Bradford

Slow footwork and very poor zip on the ball.

Clausen was a better choice as I said all along!

We coulda had Clausen at the top of 2nd Rd. and that road paver offensive lineman #1 overall (that Seattle got).

Could have even traded down a few spots, but could not because other teams KNEW Bradford was not worth it.

So, same old Rams front office decisions if you think about it. Drafting players who have to learn pop-warner stuff all over again, like how to snap a ball from under center, it’s associated footwork and the intellect/decision making skillset to zip the ball to the receivers.

Bradford has shown nothing of the sort in camp or 2 pre-season games!

Get ready for a long, long season of embarrassing football by the Rams.

Word!

by jlcdb70 on Aug 22, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clausen?

Would that be the same Clausen that went 9/22 last night, had an interception no TD’s and a 30.9 QB rating? I’m trying to figure out if your joking or not.

by 2cents on Aug 22, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree on Clausen

In case you didn’t know it, Clausen stunk it up yesterday. (30.9 QB rating with 1 int and 2 sacks). And that wasn’t while playing in horrible conditions on a sloppy field. (You ever try to throw a bullet pass when the field is a swamp?)
At least Bradford, who has only taken about 30 snaps in actual NFL game play) has learned to get rid of the ball before the protection(?) completely falls apart, which to me appears to be about 0.6 seconds after the snap. I’d take 4 more incompletions than 4 sacks any day!

As far as Bradford’s draft status, at least 2 dozen teams were hoping for a chance to draft Bradford, with Holmgren and Carroll at the top of the list.
Bradford has shown more in camp than any other rookie QB, and impressed his teammates, coaches, writers and so-called experts. You seem to be the only one with such a strong negative evaluation.
Turd!

by CFB_fan on Aug 22, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

A wet, runny turd that is

Well see if Bradford will have better numbers than that Detroit QB!

Over 2 pre-season games, Clausen ain’t no worse than Bradford; and, he could have been had in the 2nd round at many millions less.

Look Bradford lovers, Fez says, “it’s a team sport!”

Both Bradford and Clausen will get better, but the better value was Clausen IMO.

by jlcdb70 on Aug 22, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

clausen was worse in both games....

though i’m not saying he was horrible. as for not wanting bradford, you must have been hibernating through the draft. holmgren refused to pick clausen and said he would have traded a LOT to get bradford at the 1st pick.

Fire Pat Shumur!

by douchiedude on Aug 23, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shut up...

you must’ve been drinking early in the morning to muster up such an idiotic posting.

Oh no! The earth has spun off its axis! We’re all gonna die cause King Sam wasn’t as good as Peyton Manning in his 2nd preseason game…

…I told ya! I told everyone of ya! We should’ve taken that Catholic boy…what’s his name? Jimmy Clausen, that’s it! Then God would love us! It’s a conspiracy, that’s what it is!

LOL, idiot!

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Aug 22, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

what have you been smoking?

clausen fell to the mid 2nd round for a reason you douchebag.
Skins and Browns really wanted sam bradford as well.

it’d be an even more embarrassing front office if we got another Tackle in the first round (our 3rd in 6 years) and then drafted a QB no one wanted.

WORD!

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Aug 22, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word says,

SO Rams go a tackle no one wanted while overpaying on that overall first selection.

No college twit deserves that kinda mulla straight-outta-Compton (err Oklahomo Soonettes).

PC is so bland.

by jlcdb70 on Aug 22, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

your mind was obviously

made up about bradford before the draft so try not to comment on him until the season because it’s probably always going to be biased.

Fire Pat Shumur!

by douchiedude on Aug 23, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post!

I agree, the defense looked great at times. Thats what happens when the offense can hang on to the ball for a bit. O-Line much improved from a week ago, which is nice. Our back up RB’s are terrible and I don’t know who you are talking about when you say the first few WR slots are filled. How many catches does Avery have in the pre season? I can only hope that we have signed Alexander. How do we expect Bradford to complete passes to blanketed WR’s?
   A win is a win but, if you look at the statistics you will see that we were still dominated in almost every aspect of the game but turnovers. I guess I will just be happy that our O-Line and Defense looked good.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Aug 22, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Bad news for Sea-Chickens

Left tackle Russell Okung, Seattle NO 6 pick, suffered high ankle sprain during last night game.

“It’s a legitimate ankle sprain,” coach Pete Carroll said after the game. “So we’ll see how it goes.”

by Thomas W on Aug 22, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

hey did you see the vikings game

dude got killed on 4 sacks and hit at least 4 more times. all over that shoulder… let me repeat that… 325 pound lineman landed on bradford with sam hitting shoulder first. hmmmm got back up. watch some film

by mh39 on Aug 22, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not same fear

Not all teams have gimps as qb’s.

by jlcdb70 on Aug 22, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comical....
Wait untill that 290 lb+ DT falls on Bradford in just the right way

Dude, that is a fear of every HC in the league from team 1 through 32. As for the gimp comment….most every NFL player (including QBs) have had had somekind of procedures or injuries in their career. Modern medicine is a great thing.

If every QB that has sustained an injury is a gimp, then there are a lot of gimps out there – including the reigning SB MVP.
  

I should be working right now...

by gorams77 on Aug 22, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its not inevitable

People who keep predicting serious injury to players need to stop posting. It’s not productive and its just not right.

Shurmur, your career is in 3rd and long. Don't run a draw.
Onobun > Gates

by Carneros on Aug 23, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

shut the hell up. no one wants to hear your dumb, negative shit so if you don’t want to cheer for him then you have no reason to comment. what makes you think your comments are relevant to our lives aside from pissing us off? there is NO reason to post these negative comments.

Fire Pat Shumur!

by douchiedude on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Once again, a blind man could see the main problem in a minute.

FAILURE TO GET TD’s in the RED ZONE. You cannot get 4-5 turnovers and stall out 4 times in the Red Zone. Kicking FG’s when you should have TD’s is the kiss of death in the NFL. Look back at the games we lost last year cause we kept trotting out Josh Brown for 3 points when the other team was scoring TD’s. That’s how we averaged 10.9 points per game. Now for the $64K question; why the collapse in the RZ??? It’s a bad combination of things; (1) Pat Shurmur, (2) Darby, Obog and Toast, (3) receivers that drop catchable balls, and (4) Keith Null (Mr. 3/14).

by RamChop on Aug 22, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Now the RedZone problems are defenitely an issue

and I agree with. Now my disclaimer is that I haven’t watched the game yet (need to wait for NFL Network replay) so i don’t know what actually happened to stall the drives, but too many FG in RZ is a recipe for a loss.

Yes, it would help Sam if he played a series with SJax vs the alternatives, but IMO the RZ problem doesn’t get fixed until there is a true #1 WR that can out jump/muscle/position himself to be a go-to target, or at least garner enough attention to free someone else up and as of now, I don’t think that person is on the roster.

That and Shurmer sucks…

I should be working right now...

by gorams77 on Aug 22, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If its anything like last year....

I am sure that I am not looking forward to it.

I should be working right now...

by gorams77 on Aug 22, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, they had a sure TD

with Null in there and he blew it. Hoo was wide open in the back of the end zone and Null got excited and threw it way over his head. All he had to do was flip it to him and he tried to throw a bullet. Why do so many young QBs have great arms, good size, and no brains?

by andyhawk on Aug 22, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

WE NEED MIKE MARTZ BACK

or any decent offensive coordinator

Sam Bradford+ AJ Green= Tom Brady + Randy Moss

by RamzOwn94 on Aug 23, 2010 12:06 AM CDT reply actions  

thats why its preseason

Give Bradford a chance,I dont care that he’s a rookie, he didn’t have a running back,nobody to catch the ball,and rather bad call in the end zone.Let him play a for year then make judgements.

by chndlr54 on Aug 23, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

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