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Random Ramsdom, 8/21: No Selvie tonight

Everyone talks about the former Eagles and Giants connections with the St. Louis Rams, but the Ohio connection might be an even bigger coincidence. The Rams take the field in Ohio tonight for their second preseason game, against the Browns, and for lots of people in the audience, it'll be like old week. 

Given Ohio State's place in that state the Rams linebackers will be a familiar bunch considering the starting three of Larry Grant, James Laurinaitis and Na'il Diggs all played at Ohio State. That's nothing compared to Rodger Saffold's roots in Cleveland. His family knew Jim Brown.

Steven Jackson may get a few carries tonight...or he may not. On the other side of the field, the Browns will most likely play their starters for the entire first half. Like the Rams, they'll have two different QBs working with their ones as Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace will each try to make the case for a starting job.

Here's a disappointing note. Camp's most pleasant surprise so far, DE George Selviewill not play tonight. He's out with a leg injury. That's a good opportunity for some of the other rookies to get in on the action.  

Rams Herd has three questions in anticipation of tonight's game, including more information on Mohamed Massaquoi, the best receiver you've never heard of. 

Regression to the mean is a two-way street, and Rams Gab tells you why that might be a good thing for the Rams in 2010.

From the news you don't want to hear file, the Seahawks have contacted Chargers' WR Vincent Jackson's agent about a possible deal. San Diego is said to want a second round pick in return.

They sound worried in Philly.  

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This is random but

I hope Selvie changes his number once he makes the team. Because I’m not feeling his 67.

The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.

by Bond_007x on Aug 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Duval Love?

Yea.. he wa s agreat player.. jersey should be retired!

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Aug 21, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

anyone with

Broad cast info? I’m at work but should be home in time

by dbcouver on Aug 21, 2010 9:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Looks like http://channelsurfing.net/ will have it

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Aug 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

And why haven’t we contacted San Diego about Vincent Jackson? He is a young PROVEN receiver and they are asking only a second rounder. This is what I am talking about, no real effort by Rams management.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Aug 21, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

The first story I saw on this

said it would take two 2nd round picks, not just one, to get Jackson. Further, he’s demanding close to $9-10 million a year on a long term deal.

He is a real threat on the long pass routes, but he’s not a receiver who also catches shorter passes to retain possession. It’s basically the long throw or nothing with him. Is that worth two second round picks and almost $10 million per year? Maybe, maybe not. Whay do you think?

by andyhawk on Aug 21, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well we can get a number one receiver that can seperate from a defender, pay him what he should be paid or we can continue to draft first picks in every round that don’t work out and pay them more than Jackson. Once again, there is the sure thing (an accomplished player) and there is a flip of a coin draft pick that you still have to pay top money for. What seems like the better deal to you?

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Aug 21, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

…and besides, we have 5 guys on our roster right now that can’t get open down field, most just can’t get open period. A deep threat does a lot for a football team especially one that is 6’5" runs sharp routes, is durable and can go up and get the ball.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Aug 21, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't say no real effort

Those are the kinds of things the media rarely gets wind of. And for the record, I’d be all for Vincent Jackson. He’s a legit #1.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Aug 21, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I second that...

I’m not sure I like giving up two 2nd rounders (maybe a 2nd and a 3rd), but for one we should do it in a heartbeat. The offense is a #1 WR and the length of King Sam’s learning curve away from being one of the best in the NFL.

AND, that would allow us to take a DE/DT with our first round pick next year instead of a WR which would be great for the team.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Aug 21, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like VJ too

Dont like 2 2nd rdrs but the thing scariest to me about him is the substance abuse suspension he will be starting the year on. Once you get caught the 1st time – its a slippery slope and will only get worse (along with more testing) for another violation.

I should be working right now...

by gorams77 on Aug 21, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can say no real effort because of the 7-10 target players that have gone to other teams without a wink from the Rams. If you haven’t noticed, NFL Network and ESPN usually have a list of teams that have shown interest in a player. Any young player worth anything and we are not even mentioned as being in the running. Maybe there is a secret society of broadcasters who are there to make the Rams look bad but, all I hear is “where were the Rams on that deal?!”

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Aug 21, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d LOVE to get Vincent Jackson for a second rounder. However, in baffling fashion, all reports indicate that San Diego only authorized the Seahags to deal with his agent. They make it sound like the sticking point is the new contract Jackson’s looking for, not the draft pick. Hope the Rams get a chance to negotiate as well, since he’s a true, versatile #1 receiver.

by Abrantes on Aug 21, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

One thing is for sure

.. it’s not just a “tell-all” but if some receivers don’t step up this year, they will become immediately expendable… mainly Avery. He needs a big year. Honestly I think Avery could be a victim of a skill set not being matched to a system.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Aug 21, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Avery may get cut this training camp!

He has not shown anything since his first nfl td.

by jlcdb70 on Aug 21, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

They can’t even separate from a defender! Avery was blanketed on every play that I could see him in the frame. We need to show improvement now not next season or the next. Yeah we may draft a WR high in next years draft but then you and many others will be saying “give him a few years and he will be good”. When does that talk stop? Jackson is good now, Boldin is good now, Holmes is good now, Marshall is good now! It simply can not be done through the draft only and we have blown opportunity after opportunity to get impact players for a draft pick.

Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.

by Everett 11 on Aug 21, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Honestly I think Avery could be a victim of a skill set not being matched to a system."

That’s why I said that.. I doubt he’ll be cut this year. So I gave him another year by default to make something happen. It may never happen like I said.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Aug 21, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think...

he’s a good #2 WR. He’s not a #1 which is why we oughta get VJ…else we’re gonna take a WR next year with the 1st rounder.

AND, has anybody heard about D-A-N-A-R-I-O???

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Aug 21, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Selvie, my man Selvie

HEAL-UP WHILE FURTHERING YOUR MENTAL KOWLEDGE OF THE NFL GAME!

Anyone remember Saint Saffold from 1968 Cincinatti Bengals?

by jlcdb70 on Aug 21, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

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